Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-18 Thread Adam T. Cately
   Maybe one of the members of DARA reads this list...

   Years ago, when the club farmed out the running of the Hamvention to
a real business that new what to do, it was nice to have your vendor
packet in the mail by January, so that you could make your plans way in
advance and have all of your ducks in a row - the flea market was well-
organized and the help was there (and also the policing!)

   Since the club has taken over the duties, they have been very lax
as to actual hamfest service, as I truly believe that THEY think we all
will show up anyway, no matter WHAT level of service they give.

   I haven't been there as a vendor since then, and I don't think I'll
go back as a vendor until they change their attitude...

   (...READ - Don't hold your breath...)



At 11:44 PM 5/17/09 -0400, you wrote:
That said, this year was MUCH better than last year.
Still, I hope there are many more improvements next year.

Hint: Start planning it NOW and start putting
anything needed for then together NOW.

Joe M.

Paul Dumdie wrote:
  
   The folks that run the flea market spaces need to work harder on
getting things sent out in a timely manor.






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   - Adam - 

   

  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-18 Thread wd8chl
MCH wrote:
 That said, this year was MUCH better than last year.
 Still, I hope there are many more improvements next year.
 
 Hint: Start planning it NOW and start putting
 anything needed for then together NOW.
 
 Joe M.

Also, I can see how some of the hotel staff dreads this event, with some 
of the people I have seen in the past showing up, and stories I have 
heard. (didn't go this year, but I've been seeing this for 30 years!)

HINT: Don't be a jerk! Don't tear up your room! Don't make the staff 
clean up big piles of trash when you leave! And take a bath, use 
deodorant, and wear clean clothes! You'll be treated more like a human 
being!

I'm not saying that those here who are/were treated badly are the ones 
I'm talking about, but I can see how the staff might get short after 
what they have had to deal with over the years.


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-18 Thread STeve Andre'
Adam,

I'm a volunteer at the inside exhibits.  Things were definitely better this
year than last, and its recognized that there is still lots of room for
improvement, especially in the flea market.  Our ham club had problems
getting flea market spots so I know of that pain, dealing with it personally.

There were problems with the professional group too.  Different, but
still problems.

The good news is that things are getting better.  I'm convinced of that,
having walked the floor Thursday evening and having talked with
nearly every vendor in the east and north halls.  Very few problems,
and I was able to fix three of them  myself by calling others.  Not bad.

--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf  en82

On Monday 18 May 2009 06:57:45 Adam T. Cately wrote:
Maybe one of the members of DARA reads this list...

Years ago, when the club farmed out the running of the Hamvention to
 a real business that new what to do, it was nice to have your vendor
 packet in the mail by January, so that you could make your plans way in
 advance and have all of your ducks in a row - the flea market was well-
 organized and the help was there (and also the policing!)

Since the club has taken over the duties, they have been very lax
 as to actual hamfest service, as I truly believe that THEY think we all
 will show up anyway, no matter WHAT level of service they give.

I haven't been there as a vendor since then, and I don't think I'll
 go back as a vendor until they change their attitude...

(...READ - Don't hold your breath...)

 At 11:44 PM 5/17/09 -0400, you wrote:
 That said, this year was MUCH better than last year.
 Still, I hope there are many more improvements next year.
 
 Hint: Start planning it NOW and start putting
 anything needed for then together NOW.
 
 Joe M.
 
 Paul Dumdie wrote:
The folks that run the flea market spaces need to work harder on

 getting things sent out in a timely manor.

 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links

- Adam -


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-18 Thread Brian Raker
You make it sound worse than the 40,000-some 12-25 year olds that I
help 'babysit' each year for a popular Japanese Animation
convention...

One would think with age comes maturity; in your example it begs to differ.

-Brian / KF4ZWZ

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:48 AM, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote:
 MCH wrote:
 That said, this year was MUCH better than last year.
 Still, I hope there are many more improvements next year.

 Hint: Start planning it NOW and start putting
 anything needed for then together NOW.

 Joe M.

 Also, I can see how some of the hotel staff dreads this event, with some
 of the people I have seen in the past showing up, and stories I have
 heard. (didn't go this year, but I've been seeing this for 30 years!)

 HINT: Don't be a jerk! Don't tear up your room! Don't make the staff
 clean up big piles of trash when you leave! And take a bath, use
 deodorant, and wear clean clothes! You'll be treated more like a human
 being!

 I'm not saying that those here who are/were treated badly are the ones
 I'm talking about, but I can see how the staff might get short after
 what they have had to deal with over the years.


 



 Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-18 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I remember Hamvention before, during, and after that third party management
group.  My experience as an attendee is it was better without them.

-- Original Message --
Received: Mon, 18 May 2009 03:58:03 AM PDT
From: Adam T. Cately atcat...@bright.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

Maybe one of the members of DARA reads this list...
 
Years ago, when the club farmed out the running of the Hamvention to
 a real business that new what to do, it was nice to have your vendor
 packet in the mail by January, so that you could make your plans way in
 advance and have all of your ducks in a row - the flea market was well-
 organized and the help was there (and also the policing!)
 
Since the club has taken over the duties, they have been very lax
 as to actual hamfest service, as I truly believe that THEY think we all
 will show up anyway, no matter WHAT level of service they give.
 
I haven't been there as a vendor since then, and I don't think I'll
 go back as a vendor until they change their attitude...
 
(...READ - Don't hold your breath...)
 
 
 
 At 11:44 PM 5/17/09 -0400, you wrote:
 That said, this year was MUCH better than last year.
 Still, I hope there are many more improvements next year.
 
 Hint: Start planning it NOW and start putting
 anything needed for then together NOW.
 
 Joe M.
 
 Paul Dumdie wrote:
   
The folks that run the flea market spaces need to work harder on
 getting things sent out in a timely manor.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
- Adam - 
 

 
   
 
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-17 Thread Paul Dumdie

  I think that the the ham fest was better attended than last year.
It seemed that people seemed to haggle more on prices but I sold
that stuff I wanted to get rid of. It did seem that some of the stuff that was 
in the flea market should have been thrown out instead of being dragged to 
Dayton, But one mans junk is another mans treasure.

 At the end of Saturday a rain and gust front came through and destroyed quite 
a few of the tents that people had set up. I think that the people that lost 
there tents also need to learn how to tie them down properly. 

  The folks that run the flea market spaces need to work harder on getting 
things sent out in a timely manor. Yes I understand that a lot of the work is 
done by volunteers but the committee needs to step it up and more responsive to 
inquiry's.

See you all next year...  I had a great time again..
 

Paul R. Dumdie Jr. 73



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've been saying that for years about hamfests in general. Throw out all 
that rusty hardware - no one will buy it.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dumdie w9...@sbcglobal.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:24 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton



 It did seem that some of the stuff that was in the flea market should have 
 been thrown out instead of being dragged to Dayton, But one mans junk is 
 another mans treasure.




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-17 Thread N9WYS
Exactly, Paul.  ;-)

I picked up a 220V heater for my garage for $50...  The guy wanted $85 and I
told him he'd be dragging it home after the rains on Saturday.  (I bought it
Friday when they were predicting rain all day for Saturday.)  

Got some other stuff I needed/wanted too.

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul Dumdie

--- (snip) ---

But one mans junk is another mans treasure.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Dayton

2009-05-17 Thread MCH
That said, this year was MUCH better than last year.
Still, I hope there are many more improvements next year.

Hint: Start planning it NOW and start putting
anything needed for then together NOW.

Joe M.

Paul Dumdie wrote:
  
   The folks that run the flea market spaces need to work harder on getting 
 things sent out in a timely manor.