Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
Kenwood TKR-750 or TKR-751 version 2. You just can't go wrong there. If you need ham band only get the K2 (138-150mhz version). Otherwise get the K1 (146-174mhz version). - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Nov 16 13:10:57 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
But, the TKR-750 and TKR-751 are continuous-duty only up to 25 watts. Perhaps a Motorola MTR2000 would be a better choice. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:07 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater Kenwood TKR-750 or TKR-751 version 2. You just can't go wrong there. If you need ham band only get the K2 (138-150mhz version). Otherwise get the K1 (146-174mhz version). - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Nov 16 13:10:57 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri Dec 11 10:29:43 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater But, the TKR-750 and TKR-751 are continuous-duty only up to 25 watts. Perhaps a Motorola MTR2000 would be a better choice. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:07 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater Kenwood TKR-750 or TKR-751 version 2. You just can't go wrong there. If you need ham band only get the K2 (138-150mhz version). Otherwise get the K1 (146-174mhz version). - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon Nov 16 13:10:57 2009 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
At 08:36 AM 12/11/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. As an Authorized Kenwood Dealer, we have a ton of TKR's that we sold into amateur service, running either 40 (UHF) or 50 (VHF) watts with no ill effects. Sure, they're not 24/7 keydown but since the redesigned PA, we simply don't see failures. And while we can't officially recommend it, we've never seen a problem from doing so. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
Hi Ken and Norm, On my UHF LTR system I have several home channels in the 5 ch system that are almost continuous transmit during the date time. I have the TKR850's running at 35wt and they have survived for two years so far with no ill affects. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater At 08:36 AM 12/11/2009, NORM KNAPP wrote: Agreed, but here we have many '750's running at 50watts and have had no issues. Of course, they are not transmitting 24/7. As an Authorized Kenwood Dealer, we have a ton of TKR's that we sold into amateur service, running either 40 (UHF) or 50 (VHF) watts with no ill effects. Sure, they're not 24/7 keydown but since the redesigned PA, we simply don't see failures. And while we can't officially recommend it, we've never seen a problem from doing so. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcon http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ trollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp. http://www.irlp.net net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.103/2558 - Release Date: 12/11/09 10:06:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
Icom Systems group sells a version of the FR3000 with a 100w amp and additional power supply, if you are looking for off the shelf.. that is how you get 50+ watts at 100% duty cycle... Most folks opt to go to less than 100% duty cycle to keep from doubling the cost... but if you really need 50+w all day all night all nice. you need a station with an amp rated at that Probably still cheaper than buying a Harris or Motorola 100w station ie Mastr III or Quantar or similar ... For public Safety I would still look at these latter two choices.. as their 100% track record is readily duplicate-able. I believe Kenwood sells a similar arrangement... The little desktop size repeater just do not have the heatsink and cooling to do 50W @100% without some form of additional external amp... It is about heat dissipation.. 50watts is easy.. cooling 24x7 in any reasonable environment is a little trickier... While you can force anything to do 100% that does not mean it was engineered for it..or suggested.. :-) That engineering generally costs... or if it is for amateur.. Build it :-) Doug KD8B At 02:10 PM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
I run a Harris Radio Phone ( converted to repeater) and it runs 60w all day and all nite long Join the Harris yahoo ground and send a note to Roger he does them um in UHF and VHF when you order from him the radio is on you freq. and all tuned up ready to go ... and every thing you need is right inside the case .. COS PTT audio in Audio out .. the only thing you might add is the CTCSS ( I am working on a good spot to put it for incode but the decode again is just right inside .. GREAT little radio and solid its been on the air for more then 7 years now Rick On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jason C crowe...@yahoo.com wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
Get a USED Motorola MTR2000 repeater and don't look back. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Szajkowski Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:10 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I run a Harris Radio Phone ( converted to repeater) and it runs 60w all day and all nite long Join the Harris yahoo ground and send a note to Roger he does them um in UHF and VHF when you order from him the radio is on you freq. and all tuned up ready to go ... and every thing you need is right inside the case .. COS PTT audio in Audio out .. the only thing you might add is the CTCSS ( I am working on a good spot to put it for incode but the decode again is just right inside .. GREAT little radio and solid its been on the air for more then 7 years now Rick On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jason C crowe...@yahoo. mailto:crowe...@yahoo.com com wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.66/2504 - Release Date: 11/15/09 07:50:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
I have had the Harris on all day today with the NASA feed of the space shuttle .. could still hold the heat sink ( for a bit) if you dont have the space for a big radio .. Harris is the way to go On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:03 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Get a USED Motorola MTR2000 repeater and don’t look back. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Szajkowski *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:10 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I run a Harris Radio Phone ( converted to repeater) and it runs 60w all day and all nite long Join the Harris yahoo ground and send a note to Roger he does them um in UHF and VHF when you order from him the radio is on you freq. and all tuned up ready to go ... and every thing you need is right inside the case .. COS PTT audio in Audio out .. the only thing you might add is the CTCSS ( I am working on a good spot to put it for incode but the decode again is just right inside .. GREAT little radio and solid its been on the air for more then 7 years now Rick On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jason C crowe...@yahoo.com wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.66/2504 - Release Date: 11/15/09 07:50:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
I am looking for some micor manuals and stupidly lost the link vhf and uhf appear to be 64rcb 310say + c53r1105d being the 1 metre x 60 cm x 30 cm heavy 60 watts vhf and 45 watts uhf I can offer more numbers and id if needed thanks B To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: va3r...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:31:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I have had the Harris on all day today with the NASA feed of the space shuttle .. could still hold the heat sink ( for a bit) if you dont have the space for a big radio .. Harris is the way to go On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:03 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Get a USED Motorola MTR2000 repeater and don’t look back. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Szajkowski Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:10 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I run a Harris Radio Phone ( converted to repeater) and it runs 60w all day and all nite long Join the Harris yahoo ground and send a note to Roger he does them um in UHF and VHF when you order from him the radio is on you freq. and all tuned up ready to go ... and every thing you need is right inside the case .. COS PTT audio in Audio out .. the only thing you might add is the CTCSS ( I am working on a good spot to put it for incode but the decode again is just right inside .. GREAT little radio and solid its been on the air for more then 7 years now Rick On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jason C crowe...@yahoo.com wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.66/2504 - Release Date: 11/15/09 07:50:00 _ Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
MTR2000, like Mike suggested. Solid state, ~4 inches tall by 12 deep by 19 wide (3Us of rackspace). These repeaters are tanks and can handle 100% duty cycle and ask for more. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Barry ate...@hotmail.com wrote: I am looking for some micor manuals and stupidly lost the link vhf and uhf appear to be 64rcb 310say + c53r1105d being the 1 metre x 60 cm x 30 cm heavy 60 watts vhf and 45 watts uhf I can offer more numbers and id if needed thanks B -- To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: va3r...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:31:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I have had the Harris on all day today with the NASA feed of the space shuttle .. could still hold the heat sink ( for a bit) if you dont have the space for a big radio .. Harris is the way to go On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:03 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Get a USED Motorola MTR2000 repeater and don’t look back. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-954-9695 Home 303-954-9693 Home Office Fax 303-718-8052 Cellular -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Szajkowski *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:10 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater I run a Harris Radio Phone ( converted to repeater) and it runs 60w all day and all nite long Join the Harris yahoo ground and send a note to Roger he does them um in UHF and VHF when you order from him the radio is on you freq. and all tuned up ready to go ... and every thing you need is right inside the case .. COS PTT audio in Audio out .. the only thing you might add is the CTCSS ( I am working on a good spot to put it for incode but the decode again is just right inside .. GREAT little radio and solid its been on the air for more then 7 years now Rick On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jason C crowe...@yahoo.com wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.66/2504 - Release Date: 11/15/09 07:50:00 -- Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon Worldhttp://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 50 Watt Repeater
A 40-watt Motorola MTR2000 is continuous duty, and darn near bulletproof. I have one such repeater that is used to broadcast Amateur Radio News and another bulletin service, and it stays key-down for almost an hour at full power, and it barely gets warm. I doubt that any repeater users can detect the difference between 40 watts and 50 watts. Remember, buying quality only hurts once! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY At 02:10 PM 11/16/2009, you wrote: Any suggestions on a 50 watt repeater to buy? I've been looking around and keep looking at the Icom FR3000, I know there are others but I am having trouble finding a 50 Watt Continous duty... The Icom FR5000 is 25W at 100% duty cycle but is considered a 50 watt repeater.
