Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello new member here w/question
A Diamond F-23 works well for me, however lightning loves them. de Lee k4LJP 73 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM, John Poindexter w...@arrl.net wrote: Hello, We are just getting into the repeater business for our club. We will run a 2 meter repeater, with seven cans. My questions is what would be a good antenna if we don't have the space to put a 4 bay antenna? The tower that we are starting with is only 50 feet with a 10 mast. Any ideas? This repeater is just for covering our county (a small county at that), we are not worrying about other counties hitting it. Thanks and 73 John, W3ML Knox, IN -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello new member here w/question
You just can't go wrong with an Andrew DB-222 for what you're talking about On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Lee Pennington localjunkpedd...@gmail.comwrote: A Diamond F-23 works well for me, however lightning loves them. de Lee k4LJP 73 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM, John Poindexter w...@arrl.net wrote: Hello, We are just getting into the repeater business for our club. We will run a 2 meter repeater, with seven cans. My questions is what would be a good antenna if we don't have the space to put a 4 bay antenna? The tower that we are starting with is only 50 feet with a 10 mast. Any ideas? This repeater is just for covering our county (a small county at that), we are not worrying about other counties hitting it. Thanks and 73 John, W3ML Knox, IN -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello new member here w/question
I would agree. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: James Adkins To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello new member here w/question You just can't go wrong with an Andrew DB-222 for what you're talking about On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Lee Pennington localjunkpedd...@gmail.com wrote: A Diamond F-23 works well for me, however lightning loves them. de Lee k4LJP 73 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM, John Poindexter w...@arrl.net wrote: Hello, We are just getting into the repeater business for our club. We will run a 2 meter repeater, with seven cans. My questions is what would be a good antenna if we don't have the space to put a 4 bay antenna? The tower that we are starting with is only 50 feet with a 10 mast. Any ideas? This repeater is just for covering our county (a small county at that), we are not worrying about other counties hitting it. Thanks and 73 John, W3ML Knox, IN -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hello new member here w/question
John, Welcome to the group! Please advise what make and model duplexer you have, and what is the arrangement of the seven cans? What make and model are the radios? The antenna you select should be based more upon the repeater numbers (power output, receive sensitivity, and desired coverage area) than by the available tower mounting space. For example, if your repeater location is off to one side of the desired coverage area, then an omnidirectional antenna is not the best choice. Given that you expect countywide coverage from a relatively small tower, your expectations may reflect some significant optimism. Indeed, it may be prudent to examine the desired coverage area closely to determine what antenna pattern will perform the best, and choose the antenna accordingly. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Poindexter Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hello new member here w/question Hello, We are just getting into the repeater business for our club. We will run a 2 meter repeater, with seven cans. My questions is what would be a good antenna if we don't have the space to put a 4 bay antenna? The tower that we are starting with is only 50 feet with a 10 mast. Any ideas? This repeater is just for covering our county (a small county at that), we are not worrying about other counties hitting it. Thanks and 73 John, W3ML Knox, IN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello
The squelch in a GM300 is internal. http://www.repeater-builder.com/maxtrac/gm300-squelch-mod.html if you check this squelch mod, and the POT next to the cap is the squelch adjustment. From: tansugunal tansugu...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:01:27 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hello Guys we have a Radius GM300 repeater. It has a good location.And hardly mounted there. Now it takes some noise.And sometimes self tx by hours.We know we have to set the squelch by programming. But I wanna know is there any short way to increase the squelch manually ?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hello...
Lou, Welcome! You will find a veritable wealth of information on this reflector, as well as some extremely opinionated (and rightfully so) repeater owners and operators. The main thing to remember is: ask and you shall receive, information-wise. First off, what are you looking to do with this machine, for example two questions come immediately to mind: Amateur or commercial? How large of an area are you wanting to cover? You will need to contact your local repeater coordinating body and find out just what frequency pairs are available to you for your project before you even *start* looking at equipment. This keeps you from spending money on equipment you will not be able to use later on... Know ahead of time - in some parts of the country, 2m pairs are nearly impossible to obtain, and 440 is rapidly approaching that level. Once you obtain a construction permit for your repeater, you can start gathering the necessary equipment. Again, as stated before, a *good* repeater can very well be costly. This is also dependent upon where you are going to be locating it - if you are going to be in a commercial venue, they have much more stringent regulations about what type of equipment they will allow (this of course will elevate the cost of the project) as opposed to the type of repeater you could construct/erect on your own tower and operate out of your ham shack... Search the message archives here - you will find prior discussions about just this subject. Pick and choose the information and tailor it to your needs / objectives. Most of us here have accomplished exactly what you are setting out to do, so be sure to ask questions first and save yourself the headaches! And most of all, try to have FUN with it. 73 de Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lou_c1357 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:07 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hello... Hello all. Just joined the group, and looking forward to getting all the information that I can. I am looking at a long term project, and want to put up a repeater. I want to know where do I get started?? I am looking for the basics first, and then move along from there. 73 Lou KC2RVD
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hello...
Drop by one of this group's sponsers! http://www.repeater-builder.com '73 Charlie It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the Amateur that holds the license. Charles Mumphrey Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 MHz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 MHz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9 Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823 http://www.CharliesElectronics.com http://www.hello-radio.org http://www.emergency-radio.org Original Message Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hello... From: lou_c1357 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, July 03, 2007 9:06 am To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Hello all. Just joined the group, and looking forward to getting all the information that I can. I am looking at a long term project, and want to put up a repeater. I want to know where do I get started?? I am looking for the basics first, and then move along from there. 73 Lou KC2RVD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello...
Howdy Lou, FB on wanting to put up a repeater. First step would be to see what demand/need for a repeater might be? Is there already a repeater serving the area and folks want to split off, or is this an unserved area, and folks who cannot operate simplex needing a repeater? For me that would be the starting point, next support, power utility, site rent, funding, etc. Wishing you much success, Steve NU5D Original Message Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hello... From: lou_c1357 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, July 03, 2007 9:06 am To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Hello all. Just joined the group, and looking forward to getting all the information that I can. I am looking at a long term project, and want to put up a repeater. I want to know where do I get started?? I am looking for the basics first, and then move along from there. 73 Lou KC2RVD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello...
Steve makes a good point... who's the user base / what's is your audience? Or if it's going to be for you to experiment with, it's a different ball game as the only user will be you, and if it's off for a few days here and there nobody is going to complain. But in that situation it has to be self funded and repeaters ARE NOT CHEAP. I got started in the early 1970s with all-tube-based equipment that was then 15-20 years old, and it hasn't gotten any cheaper. This web page may be of interest: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/checklist.html Mike WA6ILQ At 09:31 AM 07/03/07, you wrote: Howdy Lou, FB on wanting to put up a repeater. First step would be to see what demand/need for a repeater might be? Is there already a repeater serving the area and folks want to split off, or is this an unserved area, and folks who cannot operate simplex needing a repeater? For me that would be the starting point, next support, power utility, site rent, funding, etc. Wishing you much success, Steve NU5D Original Message Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hello... From: lou_c1357 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, July 03, 2007 9:06 am To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Hello all. Just joined the group, and looking forward to getting all the information that I can. I am looking at a long term project, and want to put up a repeater. I want to know where do I get started?? I am looking for the basics first, and then move along from there. 73 Lou KC2RVD Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello...
Hi Lou, I'll throw out my wishes for you to have fun and enjoy building a repeater, but I'll also throw up in the air my usual comment to all budding repeater-builder type folks... Find a local club that needs help. There's ALWAYS someone locally that needs help with an existing repeater or system! (Or move to Denver, we'll put you to work!!) Repeaters need maintenance, not a lot, if they're built right, but there's always something to be done/checked every year or so. And every few years, you might have some tower/antenna work to do, and every few other years maybe some measurements to take critically with good test gear to see if the repeater is still performing to baseline specifications that you measured a few years before that... and... things fail... or get blown up by lightning... Well, the list goes on and on... it never stops, really. After you get picky about audio you can start obsessing about that, and come up with a project list twice as long and difficult as the just get it on the air and working list! There's always something to analyze, think about, and try to make better... without making it worse. Many clubs/organizations are short of qualified folks to work on their systems. There's lots of radio operators out there, happy to use the systems, but the number of techs who'll work on them -- it is a very small group of people in most populated areas. In rural areas, you really might find 3-4 people total who REALLY do repeaters right. (Hint: Pick repeaters in your area that seem to have better performance than others in the area and then look up the callsign. Find out who owns/operates it and approach those people. FIND THOSE techs... they did it right.) If you read up on EVERYTHING you find at the Repeater-Builder website about your club/local organization's repeaters, and all the general information there -- and there's a LOT!... Then start asking around to find out who the REAL repeater techs are in your local organizations (hint: it's not always who talks about it the most on the air!), you'll probably find some of the best people you've ever met in Ham Radio. Try to meet a few people that do this stuff... get a feel for the local community of repeater builders. Many people think the folks in charge of certain clubs don't work with other clubs in the area, and often -- although not always -- this isn't true. Most of the folks doing this stuff do know and work with each other on problems, even if their clubs compete. Many repeater builder types are willing to Elmer new folks along in return for some help on their systems. NOT ALL are, though -- some are crotchety old grumpy coots who won't talk to anyone. Don't worry about it, all aspects of this hobby have both types. (GRIN) And their biggest turn-off will be if you show up once, and never come back. Make a commitment to stick around for a while, you'll learn some interesting things. Repeaters are fairly different from many types of Amateur Radio... a specialty if you will, within the hobby. And can be quite challenging to get right. Showing someone the ropes kinda requires a commitment from both sides that is a little notch above this just being a hobby. Especially if a lot of folks are counting on a particular repeater or repeater system. Okay, off the soap box... plenty of well-wishers here, and folks who'll answer questions. Off ya go! Find a repeater that needs fixing! (By the way, no harm done building a typical back-yard repeater to do some learning. Hopefully your area has some frequency pairs set aside for experimentation and/or non-protected use. Those are a great open playground where you can learn a lot, and not have to deal with coordinating the repeater at first... just be courteous to others also using those pairs, if your area has them.) Nate WY0X
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hello
well where are you at? - Original Message - From: James Sholan - KI4OSM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] hello Hello Everyone I been working on a repeater and I have everything I need for it except a duplexer and one have one low cost I am paying from a low budget. The repeater is a 2 meter VHF repeater can anyone help with this? James Sholan - KI4OSM www.KI4OSM.com www.MyHamSearch.com http://bayside.ki4osm.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bayside_Amateur_Radio_Group/ Phone: 727-953-5350
RE: [Repeater-Builder] hello
Dunedin, florida James Sholan - KI4OSM www.KI4OSM.com www.MyHamSearch.com http://bayside.ki4osm.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bayside_Amateur_Radio_Group/ Phone: 727-953-5350 -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maire-Radios Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] hello well where are you at? - Original Message - From: James Sholan - KI4OSM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] hello Hello Everyone I been working on a repeater and I have everything I need for it except a duplexer and one have one low cost I am paying from a low budget. The repeater is a 2 meter VHF repeater can anyone help with this? James Sholan - KI4OSM www.KI4OSM.com www.MyHamSearch.com http://bayside.ki4osm.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bayside_Amateur_Radio_Group/ Phone: 727-953-5350 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hello
Try here http://www.qrz.com/callsign Doug N3DAB Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = well where are you at? - Original Message - From: James Sholan - KI4OSM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] hello Hello Everyone I been working on a repeater and I have everything I need for it except a duplexer and one have one low cost I am paying from a low budget. The repeater is a 2 meter VHF repeater can anyone help with this? James Sholan - KI4OSM www.KI4OSM.com www.MyHamSearch.com http://bayside.ki4osm.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bayside_Amateur_Radio_Group/ Phone: 727-953-5350
RE: [Repeater-Builder] hello- i have a question
From reading your message, it's very difficult to determine what you're asking. I think you're wanting to share your DSL service with a friend at another location. You could probably do this with wi-fi if the distance isn't too greatand that would be the easiest and most elegant solution.I wouldn't recommend doing it without checking with your ISP first. Reason being, if (when?) they find out what you're doing, they'll probably (at the very least) disconnect you andbill you for service for two locations as far back as they think you've been doing it,unless you have some type of business account with them that allows that sort of thing. Repeaters are mainly for voice communication. Hope this helps. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message-From: hello wellcom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:46 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] hello- i have a question please i want to know in a simple terms what is the repeater , my problem is that i have a dsl connection for intenet and i want to give my frindes links to use this dsl servicein a long distance as 200-700 meter from me and i heared aboutthe repeater , is this repeatercan do this function. thanks alot Do you Yahoo!?Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
