Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes...
Dave, I think we need more solutions like the base ball bats to deal with these problem people. All UPS shippers including small me, can re-route a package enroute or have it returned before deliever. There is a charge, but I simply bring up World Ship, the UPS software, select the item and re-route it. I do have to go to the UPS web site which is automatic. Even if on the truck a few blocks from delievery the truck will be notified. One can find within minutes a package has been delievered. They have a pretty good system. I am sure FedEx and some others have the same thing. Not Post Office. You could have put the credit card purchase in dispute and would not have to pay. QVC would have eaten the cost. The credit card company would simply withdraw the money from QVC bank. I like credit cards for they give all some protection, but in the end the seller will suffer if anyone. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Dave Gomberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/18 Wed PM 04:09:51 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes... At 04:01 6/18/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Credit card companies are a big problem, but with our ecomonic system it is almost a requirement one takes them. Trying to report a bad card is almost impossible to get any action. They may know exactly where the thief is, but will do nothing. Ron, it is worse than that. I checked my credit card on line and there was a charge from QVC (which I never even watch. much less buy from). I called QVC and they said someone used that card to buy a camera shipped to San Diego (not where I live!). I told them it was a bogus order, they said no harm, they would just ask UPS not to deliver on grounds of fraud. I imagine they use UPS enough to have that power. That is not what I would have done. I would have dressed a couple of guys up in brown jump suits and sent them to the door, This your camera??? If the guy says yes that is when the baseball bat comes out and his hands accidentally get crushed. I'll bet he wouldn't do it again. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html -- Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes...
Dave, One other sick thing about this...if one tells the credit card company of the scam they will do nothing other than contact you, the card holder, or put stop on your card. The bogus buyer thief...the credit card company cares less. Just try to report something like this. They do nothing. Might if were for 1000s. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Dave Gomberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/18 Wed PM 04:09:51 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes... At 04:01 6/18/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Credit card companies are a big problem, but with our ecomonic system it is almost a requirement one takes them. Trying to report a bad card is almost impossible to get any action. They may know exactly where the thief is, but will do nothing. Ron, it is worse than that. I checked my credit card on line and there was a charge from QVC (which I never even watch. much less buy from). I called QVC and they said someone used that card to buy a camera shipped to San Diego (not where I live!). I told them it was a bogus order, they said no harm, they would just ask UPS not to deliver on grounds of fraud. I imagine they use UPS enough to have that power. That is not what I would have done. I would have dressed a couple of guys up in brown jump suits and sent them to the door, This your camera??? If the guy says yes that is when the baseball bat comes out and his hands accidentally get crushed. I'll bet he wouldn't do it again. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html -- Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes...
The kicker is the credit card companies will remove the charge from the card holder and then take the money back from you and your equipment is gone...well if you had shipped. They approved the card, but then hold the merchant responsible. Credit card companies are a big problem, but with our ecomonic system it is almost a requirement one takes them. Trying to report a bad card is almost impossible to get any action. They may know exactly where the thief is, but will do nothing. 73,ron, n9ee/r From: Com/Rad Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/17 Tue PM 10:46:14 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes... I share this crazy deal with y'allSome Mort in Indonesia gave us an order for 10K worth of ICOM gear on 4 credit cards.Air mail to Surabaya or wherever. We took the card info but never shipped the stuff. a few days passed an some lady in Albequerqe ( spelling? ) called me and asked why we nicked her Visa for $2500 - naturally I appologized and refunded / reversed the deal. Scam-o-rama is alive and well on the internet!. I am waiting for my many 3.3 mega buck slices from confidants in the third world. oy-vey EdCom/Rad IncDes Plaines, IL - Original Message - From: skipp025To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:26 PM- Subject: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes... Oh... about once every month or so I receive the scam email requesting radio equipment prices and availability for a quick purchase using a credit card. Every one of these quick credit card purchases seems to be a scam... The funny part is almost every email scam request is for a bulk purchase of Motorola CP-200 radios... Does the third world only know of Motorola CP-200 portable radios? This latest scam email requests not only the CP-200 radio price and shipping... but now they're gettin' greedy asking for prices on Thuraya Dual-Mode Satellite/GSM Phones. Once in a while I reply with a crazy price quote and they fire back with a list of Visa Cards to charge the purchase toward. I used to call Visa and tell them about the problem... but the Visa Card Corporation has their head firmly planted and there is no easy way to turn in a fake charge report. Master Card seems to be much better... So... what's in your wallet? cheers, s. [paste text] Dear Sir/Ma, We are inquiring to place order for the following items below, please do send us the prices with the availability The items are as follows: 1. Motorola two way radio 16 channels, 5 Watt. VHF,MODEL CP 200 2. Thuraya Dual-Mode Satellite/GSM Phones The dual-mode satellite/GSM Thuraya HNS-7101 phone 3. Thuraya SO-2510 Satellite Phone Item# thu-bas-2510 Please get back to us with the prices plus the availability on the above items. Regards Kimberly Jones Global Concepts Inc. Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes...
At 04:01 6/18/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Credit card companies are a big problem, but with our ecomonic system it is almost a requirement one takes them. Trying to report a bad card is almost impossible to get any action. They may know exactly where the thief is, but will do nothing. Ron, it is worse than that. I checked my credit card on line and there was a charge from QVC (which I never even watch. much less buy from). I called QVC and they said someone used that card to buy a camera shipped to San Diego (not where I live!). I told them it was a bogus order, they said no harm, they would just ask UPS not to deliver on grounds of fraud. I imagine they use UPS enough to have that power. That is not what I would have done. I would have dressed a couple of guys up in brown jump suits and sent them to the door, This your camera??? If the guy says yes that is when the baseball bat comes out and his hands accidentally get crushed. I'll bet he wouldn't do it again. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html -
Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes...
Guys, what you mentioned below happens every day. The ones receiving the packages are just the middle man, sometimes not knowing they are receiving stoled goods, and they then send the items overseas to the ones that have used your credit card to get the item. David = From: Dave Gomberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/18 Wed PM 08:09:51 WET To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] the scam changes... At 04:01 6/18/2008, Ron Wright wrote: Credit card companies are a big problem, but with our ecomonic system it is almost a requirement one takes them. Trying to report a bad card is almost impossible to get any action. They may know exactly where the thief is, but will do nothing. Ron, it is worse than that. I checked my credit card on line and there was a charge from QVC (which I never even watch. much less buy from). I called QVC and they said someone used that card to buy a camera shipped to San Diego (not where I live!). I told them it was a bogus order, they said no harm, they would just ask UPS not to deliver on grounds of fraud. I imagine they use UPS enough to have that power. That is not what I would have done. I would have dressed a couple of guys up in brown jump suits and sent them to the door, This your camera??? If the guy says yes that is when the baseball bat comes out and his hands accidentally get crushed. I'll bet he wouldn't do it again. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html --
