Re: Late to the party but still wish to compile a working Riak

[David Bloom]

Thanks Mark!  I got most of the way through your talk in 2015 and will
finish the video tomorrow, pretty heady stuff but you make it digestible.
I'm still getting used to erlang syntax, that's why my interest in LFE as
its syntax is less cognitive load for me.

Udon and your talk are definitely going to help me jump-start into
distributed programming.  Thanks for all the info and the updated code.  I
look forward to building something useful with it.  Maybe I'll get good
enough eventually to make some contributions to update the code to the
latest erlang release.  Cheers.

David


On Jul 17, 2017 11:50 PM, "Mark Allen"  wrote:

Just to follow up on this, I tried to work out OTP 20 support tonight but
it looks like riak_ensemble is going to need some serious TLC to get OTP 20
to compile on it due to its use of deprecated gen_fsm calls in various
parts of the application.

So I'm going to omit support for OTP 20 for now and work on OTP 18 and 19
support tomorrow for udon. That ought to be quite a bit more straight
forward. I think it would mostly entail adding the proper relx
configuration.

Mark


On Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:41:04 PM CDT, Mark Allen 
wrote:


OK, I see that the project doesn't seem to support OTP 18, 19 or 20. I'll
see if I can bump the deps and get it working using Heinz's fork tonight US
time.
On Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:38:07 PM CDT, Mark Allen 
wrote:


You might want to consider starting with udon, my "learn riak core"
application I wrote a couple years ago:

http://basho.com/posts/technical/understanding-riak_core-building-handoff/

https://speakerdeck.com/mrallen1/building-distributed-
applications-with-riak-core

https://github.com/mrallen1/udon

Happy to answer questions here, via twitter @bytemeorg, or github issues,
or in irc on #riak (might be slow - I don't look at riak-user constantly.)

Mark


On Monday, July 17, 2017, 11:16:01 AM CDT, David Bloom 
wrote:


Hello Riak list!  After watching many videos about Erlang and LFE in
particular I think I get it and now understand the many benefits of the
BEAM and thought that Riak would make an excellent tool to build
applications with.

While getting excited I learned of Basho's current limbo status but still
interested in learning Riak as it has already been adopted enough that it
seems that Riak (or it's future open-source name whatever) is here to stay.

How can I compile a working Riak?  Is it daft of me to learn Erlang/LFE to
get future work supporting existing Riak installations?  Though very new to
the Erlang ecosystem, I've managed to use Kerl to install different
versions of R16 and R17, even used it to install Basho's patched R16 but
nothing works.

Would it be better to try using the existing Riak containers on Docker
Hub?  Any thoughts or tips for a Lisper looking to work with and learn more
Erlang?  My resume available upon request.  Thanks in advance for your help.

-David Bloom
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Re: Late to the party but still wish to compile a working Riak

[Mark Allen]

Just to follow up on this, I tried to work out OTP 20 support tonight but it 
looks like riak_ensemble is going to need some serious TLC to get OTP 20 to 
compile on it due to its use of deprecated gen_fsm calls in various parts of 
the application.  
So I'm going to omit support for OTP 20 for now and work on OTP 18 and 19 
support tomorrow for udon. That ought to be quite a bit more straight forward. 
I think it would mostly entail adding the proper relx configuration.
Mark

On Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:41:04 PM CDT, Mark Allen  
wrote:

OK, I see that the project doesn't seem to support OTP 18, 19 or 20. I'll see 
if I can bump the deps and get it working using Heinz's fork tonight US time.On 
Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:38:07 PM CDT, Mark Allen  wrote:

You might want to consider starting with udon, my "learn riak core" application 
I wrote a couple years ago:
http://basho.com/posts/technical/understanding-riak_core-building-handoff/

https://speakerdeck.com/mrallen1/building-distributed-applications-with-riak-core

https://github.com/mrallen1/udon

Happy to answer questions here, via twitter @bytemeorg, or github issues, or in 
irc on #riak (might be slow - I don't look at riak-user constantly.)
Mark

On Monday, July 17, 2017, 11:16:01 AM CDT, David Bloom  
wrote:

Hello Riak list!  After watching many videos about Erlang and LFE in particular 
I think I get it and now understand the many benefits of the BEAM and thought 
that Riak would make an excellent tool to build applications with.
While getting excited I learned of Basho's current limbo status but still 
interested in learning Riak as it has already been adopted enough that it seems 
that Riak (or it's future open-source name whatever) is here to stay.
How can I compile a working Riak?  Is it daft of me to learn Erlang/LFE to get 
future work supporting existing Riak installations?  Though very new to the 
Erlang ecosystem, I've managed to use Kerl to install different versions of R16 
and R17, even used it to install Basho's patched R16 but nothing works.
Would it be better to try using the existing Riak containers on Docker Hub?  
Any thoughts or tips for a Lisper looking to work with and learn more Erlang?  
My resume available upon request.  Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Late to the party but still wish to compile a working Riak

[Mark Allen]

Personally, I learn best by experimenting with code, so that's what I like to 
try to do next but, either option is good.  Go with what feels most comfortable 
for you. :-)

On Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:51:34 PM CDT, David Bloom  
wrote:

Thank you Mark.  I look forward to absorbing as much material as I can.  Your 
articles on Udon look like a great starting point after completing LYSE book.  
Would you recommend completing erlang in anger book as well before diving into 
code or LYSE and just dive into it straight away?
David

On Jul 17, 2017 1:40 PM, "Mark Allen"  wrote:

OK, I see that the project doesn't seem to support OTP 18, 19 or 20. I'll see 
if I can bump the deps and get it working using Heinz's fork tonight US time.On 
Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:38:07 PM CDT, Mark Allen  wrote:

You might want to consider starting with udon, my "learn riak core" application 
I wrote a couple years ago:
http://basho.com/posts/technic al/understanding-riak_core- building-handoff/

https://speakerdeck.com/mralle n1/building-distributed-applic 
ations-with-riak-core

https://github.com/mrallen1/ud on

Happy to answer questions here, via twitter @bytemeorg, or github issues, or in 
irc on #riak (might be slow - I don't look at riak-user constantly.)
Mark

On Monday, July 17, 2017, 11:16:01 AM CDT, David Bloom  
wrote:

Hello Riak list!  After watching many videos about Erlang and LFE in particular 
I think I get it and now understand the many benefits of the BEAM and thought 
that Riak would make an excellent tool to build applications with.
While getting excited I learned of Basho's current limbo status but still 
interested in learning Riak as it has already been adopted enough that it seems 
that Riak (or it's future open-source name whatever) is here to stay.
How can I compile a working Riak?  Is it daft of me to learn Erlang/LFE to get 
future work supporting existing Riak installations?  Though very new to the 
Erlang ecosystem, I've managed to use Kerl to install different versions of R16 
and R17, even used it to install Basho's patched R16 but nothing works.
Would it be better to try using the existing Riak containers on Docker Hub?  
Any thoughts or tips for a Lisper looking to work with and learn more Erlang?  
My resume available upon request.  Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Late to the party but still wish to compile a working Riak

[David Bloom]

Thank you Mark.  I look forward to absorbing as much material as I can.
Your articles on Udon look like a great starting point after completing
LYSE book.  Would you recommend completing erlang in anger book as well
before diving into code or LYSE and just dive into it straight away?

David


On Jul 17, 2017 1:40 PM, "Mark Allen"  wrote:

OK, I see that the project doesn't seem to support OTP 18, 19 or 20. I'll
see if I can bump the deps and get it working using Heinz's fork tonight US
time.
On Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:38:07 PM CDT, Mark Allen 
wrote:


You might want to consider starting with udon, my "learn riak core"
application I wrote a couple years ago:

http://basho.com/posts/technical/understanding-riak_core-building-handoff/

https://speakerdeck.com/mrallen1/building-distributed-applic
ations-with-riak-core

https://github.com/mrallen1/udon

Happy to answer questions here, via twitter @bytemeorg, or github issues,
or in irc on #riak (might be slow - I don't look at riak-user constantly.)

Mark


On Monday, July 17, 2017, 11:16:01 AM CDT, David Bloom 
wrote:


Hello Riak list!  After watching many videos about Erlang and LFE in
particular I think I get it and now understand the many benefits of the
BEAM and thought that Riak would make an excellent tool to build
applications with.

While getting excited I learned of Basho's current limbo status but still
interested in learning Riak as it has already been adopted enough that it
seems that Riak (or it's future open-source name whatever) is here to stay.

How can I compile a working Riak?  Is it daft of me to learn Erlang/LFE to
get future work supporting existing Riak installations?  Though very new to
the Erlang ecosystem, I've managed to use Kerl to install different
versions of R16 and R17, even used it to install Basho's patched R16 but
nothing works.

Would it be better to try using the existing Riak containers on Docker
Hub?  Any thoughts or tips for a Lisper looking to work with and learn more
Erlang?  My resume available upon request.  Thanks in advance for your help.

-David Bloom
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Re: Late to the party but still wish to compile a working Riak

[Mark Allen]

OK, I see that the project doesn't seem to support OTP 18, 19 or 20. I'll see 
if I can bump the deps and get it working using Heinz's fork tonight US time.On 
Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:38:07 PM CDT, Mark Allen  wrote:

You might want to consider starting with udon, my "learn riak core" application 
I wrote a couple years ago:
http://basho.com/posts/technical/understanding-riak_core-building-handoff/

https://speakerdeck.com/mrallen1/building-distributed-applications-with-riak-core

https://github.com/mrallen1/udon

Happy to answer questions here, via twitter @bytemeorg, or github issues, or in 
irc on #riak (might be slow - I don't look at riak-user constantly.)
Mark

On Monday, July 17, 2017, 11:16:01 AM CDT, David Bloom  
wrote:

Hello Riak list!  After watching many videos about Erlang and LFE in particular 
I think I get it and now understand the many benefits of the BEAM and thought 
that Riak would make an excellent tool to build applications with.
While getting excited I learned of Basho's current limbo status but still 
interested in learning Riak as it has already been adopted enough that it seems 
that Riak (or it's future open-source name whatever) is here to stay.
How can I compile a working Riak?  Is it daft of me to learn Erlang/LFE to get 
future work supporting existing Riak installations?  Though very new to the 
Erlang ecosystem, I've managed to use Kerl to install different versions of R16 
and R17, even used it to install Basho's patched R16 but nothing works.
Would it be better to try using the existing Riak containers on Docker Hub?  
Any thoughts or tips for a Lisper looking to work with and learn more Erlang?  
My resume available upon request.  Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Late to the party but still wish to compile a working Riak

[Mark Allen]

You might want to consider starting with udon, my "learn riak core" application 
I wrote a couple years ago:
http://basho.com/posts/technical/understanding-riak_core-building-handoff/

https://speakerdeck.com/mrallen1/building-distributed-applications-with-riak-core

https://github.com/mrallen1/udon

Happy to answer questions here, via twitter @bytemeorg, or github issues, or in 
irc on #riak (might be slow - I don't look at riak-user constantly.)
Mark

On Monday, July 17, 2017, 11:16:01 AM CDT, David Bloom  
wrote:

Hello Riak list!  After watching many videos about Erlang and LFE in particular 
I think I get it and now understand the many benefits of the BEAM and thought 
that Riak would make an excellent tool to build applications with.
While getting excited I learned of Basho's current limbo status but still 
interested in learning Riak as it has already been adopted enough that it seems 
that Riak (or it's future open-source name whatever) is here to stay.
How can I compile a working Riak?  Is it daft of me to learn Erlang/LFE to get 
future work supporting existing Riak installations?  Though very new to the 
Erlang ecosystem, I've managed to use Kerl to install different versions of R16 
and R17, even used it to install Basho's patched R16 but nothing works.
Would it be better to try using the existing Riak containers on Docker Hub?  
Any thoughts or tips for a Lisper looking to work with and learn more Erlang?  
My resume available upon request.  Thanks in advance for your help.
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