[Ring] instances

[inderaue23]

if a have an sip account and an voip internet provider.

would it be possible to make a phone call from a landline to a cell phone with 
ring on it,

using the same sip account credentials?

Re: [Ring] Question about SIP

[inderaue23]

Hi  Adrien, thanks for your

> Adrien Béraud  hat am 25. Juni 2018 um 
> 21:04 geschrieben:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> >  if our telephone network supports VOIP and SIP accounts, it would be 
> possible to make landline and other calls through Ring, right?
> 
> Yes, we use it internally at SFL with SIP (with an Asterisk server),
> 

Would it be possible to make calls to mobiles too?

What about the accruimg costs?

> About security, Ring simply acts as a normal SIP client when using SIP 
> accounts, independent from Ring accounts.
> SIP accounts in Ring support using custom TLS certificates/CA for SIPS 
> and SRTP.
> 

1. What does this exactly mean? e.g. compared to Ring accounts security?

2. Does my provider need to support TLS certificates/CA for SIPS and SRTP? Or 
is this handled by the clients only?

3. What if my contacts doesn't use same Ring standards/same SIP provider here?


> Best regards,
> 
> Adrien Beraud
> Savoir-faire Linux
> 
> 
> -
> De: inderau...@arcor.de
> À: ring@gnu.org
> Envoyé: Lundi 25 Juin 2018 14:10:55
> Objet: [Ring] Question about SIP
> 
> 
> if our telephone network supports VOIP and SIP accounts, it would be 
> possible to make landline and other calls through Ring, right?
> 
> What do i have to consider here:
> 
> -secrecy/privacy
> 
> -costs ...
> 
> all the best!
> 
> 


 

[Ring] Alternative Push Transport Notification

[inderaue23]

hej there! want to share

https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/#5936132521459712

with the Ring team! Maybe that's something you can look into to get rid off the 
proprietary push stuff?

All the best

Anna

[Ring] Website news section & F-Droid version

[inderaue23]

Hello. There are no updates since 18 November 2017?

https://ring.cx/en/news

Btw. the F-Droid version is still on 102 since one and a half month. Is there 
anything you can do to enable regular automatic updates?

Best regards

Re: [Ring] A bug with visibility?

[inderaue23]

in additon to that: none of my sent message seem the be deliverey and most oft 
the time they end with a failure "x" :(

if i try to call her (from GNOME) i cannot hear the calling sound. although 
it's working while calling other devices.


> inderau...@arcor.de hat am 3. Februar 2018 um 08:18 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Just noticed: I am on GNOME and a friend is using the iOS version from 
> https://ring.cx/en/download
> After speaking offline for a while she was telling me, that she's online 
> on Ring as well. But i didn't see any green marker on my conversation list. I 
> closed my window and restarted Ring. And now she had that little green online 
> dot. Any idea?
> 
 

[Ring] A bug with visibility?

[inderaue23]

Just noticed: I am on GNOME and a friend is using the iOS version from 
https://ring.cx/en/download
After speaking offline for a while she was telling me, that she's online on 
Ring as well. But i didn't see any green marker on my conversation list. I 
closed my window and restarted Ring. And now she had that little green online 
dot. Any idea?

[Ring] Stability and communication issues with ring-gnome 20180201.1.1c1

[inderaue23]

hej there!

i can confirm that i noticed the first three issue you reported on my own:


> - with the gnome client, trying to send text messages to an Android client

  never completes

--> but I am not sure about the CPU here!


I am on Fedora 27.

[Ring] Question about https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/#/c/8843/

[inderaue23]

Hi there! Related to the commit i found on Gerrit for iOS: I recognised that on 
GNOME client it's also possible to call the same person that has actually 
already called me and shares still an active connection. Is this a bug? All the 
best!

Re: [Ring] Are the Arch linux packages gone?

[inderaue23]

see discussion here 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/ring/2017-11/msg00021.html


> inderau...@arcor.de hat am 31. Januar 2018 um 09:26 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> By the way: Here is what Fedora guys told me about integrating Ring 
> packages into Gnome Software repositories.
> 
> 
> > > I'm interest in GNU Ring's communication solution. 
> https://ring.cx/en
> > https://ring.cx/en/about/practical
> > 
> > > 
> 
> 
> "I see that FFMPEG is mentioned on Ring's website. FFMPEG isn't 
> permissible in
> Fedora because the USA's patent system is crap, so it's packaged in RPM 
> Fusion
> instead. Anyone who wants to package Ring will have to do it in RPM 
> Fusion (or
> another add-on repository), unless Ring can function without FFMPEG.
> 
> Björn Persson"
> 
 

Re: [Ring] Feature/UI request for GNOME client

[inderaue23]

in addition this could help
https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/SaveWindowState

> Nicolas Jäger  hat am 26. Januar 2018 um 
> 17:59 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I will peek a look. Thx.
> 
> regards,
> 
> _
> 
> Nicolas Jäger
> (514) 276-5468 Poste 121
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: inderau...@arcor.de
> To: ring@gnu.org
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 4:44:46 AM
> Subject: [Ring] Feature/UI request for GNOME client
> 
> Please implement window position saved-state. It's really annoying without ;)
> 
> Here is how elementary OS did this for their file browser 
> https://github.com/elementary/files/pull/303
> 
> Have a beautiful day!

Re: [Ring] Feature/UI request for GNOME client

[inderaue23]

hi, this would be wonderful, thanks!

> Nicolas Jäger  hat am 26. Januar 2018 um 
> 17:59 geschrieben:
>
>
> Hi,
> I will peek a look. Thx.
>
> regards,
>
> _
>
> Nicolas Jäger
> (514) 276-5468 Poste 121
>
> - Original Message -
> From: inderau...@arcor.de
> To: ring@gnu.org
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 4:44:46 AM
> Subject: [Ring] Feature/UI request for GNOME client
>
> Please implement window position saved-state. It's really annoying without ;)
>
> Here is how elementary OS did this for their file browser 
> https://github.com/elementary/files/pull/303
>
> Have a beautiful day!

[Ring] Feature/UI request for GNOME client

[inderaue23]

Please implement window position saved-state. It's really annoying without ;)

Here is how elementary OS did this for their file browser 
https://github.com/elementary/files/pull/303

Have a beautiful day!

Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are online

[inderaue23]

Thanks Sébastien for your explanation! But spoken with tons of privacy & 
security concerns: All the messages have to go through Google and Apple then, 
right?

> Maxim Cournoyer  hat am 16. Januar 2018 
> um 20:21 geschrieben:
>
>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> > From: inderau...@arcor.de
> >> > To: "Maxim Cournoyer" 
> >> > Cc: ring@gnu.org
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:26:05 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts 
> >> > are online
> >>
> >> > Hi Maxim,
> >> >
> >> > you mean that my Android contact's should check their power settings, 
> >> > right?
> >>
> >> Yes, if your contacts are using Ring on Android, they would have to make 
> >> sure
> >> their Ring client is not "power optimized" by Android.
> >> This isn't very user friendly; we are working on push notifications that 
> >> should
> >> make things easier in this regard.
> >
> > Btw. do push notifications work in a decentralised network - without 
> > connecting
> > to servers running in the background?
>
> Short answer: no. The push service frameworks available on mainstream mobile 
> platforms (Android, iOS) are centralized by nature: a connection is at all 
> times maintained between them and the push server, AFAIK.
>
> Maxim

Re: [Ring] What happen to a message ...

[inderaue23]

> Maxim Cournoyer  hat am 16. Januar 2018 
> um 20:59 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: inderau...@arcor.de
> > To: ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:40:52 PM
> > Subject: [Ring] What happen to a message ...
> 
> > that i send to one of my contacts while she/he is offline?
> 
> It is put and persisted on the DHT for a period of 5 minutes.
> 
> > 
> > Will i be lost once and for all? There is always the "sending" animation 
> > boucing
> > for a long time.
> >
> > And sometimes a "failure" signature is following.
> 
> I believe the "failure" message should appear when the message expires after 
> 5 minutes on the DHT without having been retrieved. 
> 
> > What if there would be a way to cancel it, when i am getting aware that 
> > she/he
> > is offline?
> 
> There's currently no way to actively cancel a message being sent, but as 
> replied above, it'll only live 5 minutes on the DHT and expire in case your 
> contact is offline.

Hmm that's interesting and curious at the same time.
Yesterday i noticed that i sent a message with a link to an Android friend that 
was offline at that time.
I stayed online all the time and after one or two hours my friend came back 
online (wlan in the same room) and there was still this "sending" animation 
bouncing on my GNOME client. I tried to copy/paste it again. And what happend 
was: I got two immediately two little green checks in my conversation view for 
both messages. My friend  hasn't got the first message while being offline. But 
after came back (and online) she got the first message and my resend second 
message at the same time. but looking at the timestamp of the messages there 
was a difference between 1 and 2 hours between my first and second message. Any 
idea?

> 
> > As there is no contact comes online/goes offline notification right now, 
> > isn't
> > it?
> 
> Correct.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Maxim

Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are online

[inderaue23]

> Maxim Cournoyer  hat am 16. Januar 2018 
> um 20:21 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> > From: inderau...@arcor.de
> >> > To: "Maxim Cournoyer" 
> >> > Cc: ring@gnu.org
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:26:05 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts 
> >> > are online
> >> 
> >> > Hi Maxim,
> >> > 
> >> > you mean that my Android contact's should check their power settings, 
> >> > right?
> >> 
> >> Yes, if your contacts are using Ring on Android, they would have to make 
> >> sure
> >> their Ring client is not "power optimized" by Android.
> >> This isn't very user friendly; we are working on push notifications that 
> >> should
> >> make things easier in this regard.
> > 
> > Btw. do push notifications work in a decentralised network - without 
> > connecting
> > to servers running in the background?
> 
> Short answer: no. The push service frameworks available on mainstream mobile 
> platforms (Android, iOS) are centralized by nature: a connection is at all 
> times maintained between them and the push server, AFAIK.

https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/#/c/8712/
so all my data will be connected to Google soon?
Or will push notifications be optional? Will the servers be maintained by 
Savoir-faire Linux or self-hostable?

> 
> Maxim

Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are online

[inderaue23]

> Maxim Cournoyer  hat am 16. Januar 2018 
> um 19:39 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: inderau...@arcor.de
> > To: "Maxim Cournoyer" 
> > Cc: ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:26:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are 
> > online
> 
> > Hi Maxim,
> > 
> > you mean that my Android contact's should check their power settings, right?
> 
> Yes, if your contacts are using Ring on Android, they would have to make sure 
> their Ring client is not "power optimized" by Android.
> This isn't very user friendly; we are working on push notifications that 
> should make things easier in this regard.

Btw. do push notifications work in a decentralised network - without connecting 
to servers running in the background?

> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Maxim

Re: [Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..

[inderaue23]

https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/#/c/8692/ ?
okey, i will stay curious and patient ;)

> Nicolas Jäger  hat am 16. Januar 2018 um 
> 18:54 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> this is only a part, I have to do a little more work
> 
> _
> 
> Nicolas Jäger
> (514) 276-5468 Poste 121
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: inderau...@arcor.de
> To: "Nicolas Jäger" 
> Cc: ring@gnu.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:44:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..
> 
> ah https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/#/c/8693/
> ;)
> 
> > Nicolas Jäger  hat am 16. Januar 2018 
> > um 18:36 geschrieben:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > I'm working on it
> > 
> > regards,
> > _
> > 
> > Nicolas Jäger
> > (514) 276-5468 Poste 121
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: inderau...@arcor.de
> > To: ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:19:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..
> > 
> > Any updates on that issue?
> > 
> > 
> > > inderau...@arcor.de hat am 7. Januar 2018 um 13:57 geschrieben:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I choose to "keep history for day(s): 1". But after 3, 4 or 5 days - 
> > > what the message time stamps are showing - all my messages are still 
> > > there. Any idea? Best!
> > >

Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are online

[inderaue23]

> Maxim Cournoyer  hat am 16. Januar 2018 
> um 19:39 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: inderau...@arcor.de
> > To: "Maxim Cournoyer" 
> > Cc: ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:26:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are 
> > online
> 
> > Hi Maxim,
> > 
> > you mean that my Android contact's should check their power settings, right?
> 
> Yes, if your contacts are using Ring on Android, they would have to make sure 
> their Ring client is not "power optimized" by Android.

Ok, will ask them, look into that and get back to you!

> This isn't very user friendly; we are working on push notifications that 
> should make things easier in this regard.

Pretty nice, thanks for working on this!

> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Maxim

Re: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are online

[inderaue23]

Hi Maxim,

you mean that my Android contact's should check their power settings, right?

> Maxim Cournoyer  hat am 12. Januar 2018 
> um 18:07 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hi Anna,
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Anna Marei" 
> > To: ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 12:32:40 PM
> > Subject: [Ring] Sending failes or takes hours even if my contacts are online
> 
> > Happens from Linux (GNOME) to Android contacts. Any idea?
> 
> I'm guessing that your Android contacts' Ring are actually offline even if 
> you think they should be running. Look into your power optimization settings 
> and try to whitelist Ring so that Android doesn't put Ring to sleep when it's 
> running in the background.
> 
> Maxim

[Ring] What happen to a message ...

[inderaue23]

that i send to one of my contacts while she/he is offline?

Will i be lost once and for all? There is always the "sending" animation 
boucing for a long time.

And sometimes a "failure" signature is following.

What if there would be a way to cancel it, when i am getting aware that she/he 
is offline?

As there is no contact comes online/goes offline notification right now, isn't 
it?

All the best

Re: [Ring] How can i save my account on Android?

[inderaue23]

Hi, 

> Maxim Cournoyer  hat am 12. Januar 2018 
> um 22:07 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: inderau...@arcor.de
> > To: ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 12:59:06 PM
> > Subject: [Ring] How can i save my account on Android?
> 
> > I started with the old f-droid beta version, now have the lasted release. i 
> > get
> > an notification if someone sent me a message. but i am unable to
> > 
> > i would deinstall and reinstall Ring again. But how can save my account 
> > data on
> > Android?
> 
> The easiest way would be to sync your account with another device. This will 
> effectively encrypt your account data with your password and a temporary nip 
> and sync it over the DHT to your second device.
> 
> Once your account is synced to your second device, you should be safe to 
> uninstall Ring on your Android device (effectively wiping your account on 
> that device), reinstall and then redo the (re)sync your account back in.

Hmm but this way i will lose all my contact, won't i?

> 
> Otherwise, there are ways to backup the application data using ADB or some 
> backup apps (which typically require root), but these options are not as 
> simple as the device syncing mechanism built in Ring.

What about an internal Ring solution here?

> 
> Maxim

Re: [Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..

[inderaue23]

ah https://gerrit-ring.savoirfairelinux.com/#/c/8693/
;)

> Nicolas Jäger  hat am 16. Januar 2018 um 
> 18:36 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I'm working on it
> 
> regards,
> _
> 
> Nicolas Jäger
> (514) 276-5468 Poste 121
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: inderau...@arcor.de
> To: ring@gnu.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:19:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..
> 
> Any updates on that issue?
> 
> 
> > inderau...@arcor.de hat am 7. Januar 2018 um 13:57 geschrieben:
> > 
> > 
> > I choose to "keep history for day(s): 1". But after 3, 4 or 5 days - 
> > what the message time stamps are showing - all my messages are still there. 
> > Any idea? Best!
> >

Re: [Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..

[inderaue23]

hi, ok very cool! thank you for your work! is there already something about 
that on gerrit?

> Nicolas Jäger  hat am 16. Januar 2018 um 
> 18:36 geschrieben:
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm working on it
>
> regards,
> _
>
> Nicolas Jäger
> (514) 276-5468 Poste 121
>
> - Original Message -
> From: inderau...@arcor.de
> To: ring@gnu.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:19:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..
>
> Any updates on that issue?
>
>
> > inderau...@arcor.de hat am 7. Januar 2018 um 13:57 geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > I choose to "keep history for day(s): 1". But after 3, 4 or 5 days - what 
> > the message time stamps are showing - all my messages are still there. Any 
> > idea? Best!
> >

Re: [Ring] Ring Integration

[inderaue23]

Any updates on that issue?


> Anna Marei  hat am 22. Dezember 2017 um 09:39 
> geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Do you think that it makes sense to build an Ring integration for 
> Nextcloud communication tools?
> 
> https://apps.nextcloud.com/categories/social  
> https://apps.nextcloud.com/categories/social
> 
> Maybe it could be just one integration that works with Nextcloud and 
> ownCloud as they have the same technical background.
> 
> And both are large and widespread Open Source tools for online storage 
> and data synchronization.
> 
> Best wishes!
> 
 

[Ring] History settings in GNOME seem not clear History ..

[inderaue23]

I choose to "keep history for day(s): 1". But after 3, 4 or 5 days - what the 
message time stamps are showing - all my messages are still there. Any idea? 
Best!

Re: [Ring] How can i save my account on Android?

[inderaue23]

In additional explanation 2:
I see notifications on my Cynanogenmod lock screen. These are shortened. 
However, when I open the app to read the full message, I do not see anything, 
neither news from the one who sent the messages nor my own sent messages.

> inderau...@arcor.de hat am 29. Dezember 2017 um 18:59 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> I started with the old f-droid beta version, now have the lasted release. 
> i get an notification if someone sent me a message. but i am unable to
> 
> i would deinstall and reinstall Ring again. But how can save my account 
> data on Android?
> 
> Btw. I have and registered username at your nameserver.
> 
> Best wishes!
> 


 

Re: [Ring] How can i save my account on Android?

[inderaue23]

in addition: if i send messages to someone else, they could be viewed by the 
recipients.

do you have any idea? could the large version jump be a reason for this?

> inderau...@arcor.de hat am 29. Dezember 2017 um 18:59 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> I started with the old f-droid beta version, now have the lasted release. 
> i get an notification if someone sent me a message. but i am unable to
> 
> i would deinstall and reinstall Ring again. But how can save my account 
> data on Android?
> 
> Btw. I have and registered username at your nameserver.
> 
> Best wishes!
> 


 

[Ring] Thoughts on ressources used/traffic/memory consumption ...

[inderaue23]

Hej there,

are there any developer/user experiences so far, how many ressources Ring needs 
on the different platforms

a) while running in the backgroud
b) use audio/video calls
c) or just chat?

precisely the peer-to-peer concept on mobiles makes me thoughtful here ...

cheers and have a beautiful day!

[Ring] Ring version in Google Play Store

[inderaue23]

Hej there, just found that Ring version is shown as 20170803. There is no 
rolling release model to use the bumped version 93, right?

Have a beautiful day!

[Ring] Request: Ditch Ring status icon in favour of GNOME 3.26 compatibility

[inderaue23]

Hey there,

found this official GNOME blog article today:

https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/

What do you think about it?


Cheers and have a beautiful day!

[Ring] Ring in F-Droid and Play Store

[inderaue23]

Hej there,


1. In the english version of Google Play Store Ring looks like it's still Beta 2

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cx.ring=en 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cx.ring=en

while the german version shows the correct non-Beta version.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cx.ring=de 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cx.ring=de

Any idea?


2. By the way: is saw that you are aware of 

https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/issues/808

Is there any progress to solve this issue from both sides (Ring/F-Droid)?


cheers and have a beautiful day!

Re: [Ring] [ring-dev] Fwd: Version for iPad?

[inderaue23]

Thanks, that solves my question. I am always curious about iOS/iPad version 
news & updates!

> Kateryna Kostiuk <kateryna.kost...@savoirfairelinux.com> hat am 18. August 
> 2017 um 00:42 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> 
> That's a good question. Now we work on it but currently it is hard to say 
> exact time. Approximately in a few months. We will keep updated community 
> about iOS version news.
> 
> - Original Message -
> Cc: ring-...@lists.savoirfairelinux.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:42:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [ring-dev] Fwd: [Ring] Version for iPad?
> 
> Hi! Thank you! 
> When will you release your iOS Ring Client?
> All the best
> 
> > Kateryna Kostiuk <kateryna.kost...@savoirfairelinux.com> hat am 16. August 
> > 2017 um 20:43 geschrieben:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > MAC client runs on OSX and it wouldn’t work on iPAD. So yes, we need iOS 
> > Ring client to use it on iPad.
> > 
> > All the best!
> > 
> > 
> > - Le 16 Aoû 17, à 8:13, inderaue23 <inderau...@arcor.de> a écrit : 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hej there! 
> > 
> > 
> > A lot of my friends use iPad's. Can they run the Mac client version of Ring 
> > or do they have to wait for your iOS client to come? 
> > 
> > Have a sunny Wednesday! 
> > 
> > ___
> > Ring-dev mailing list
> > ring-...@lists.savoirfairelinux.net
> > https://lists.savoirfairelinux.net/mailman/listinfo/ring-dev
> --

[Ring] Searching for Ring icon

[inderaue23]

search for Ring.svg application icon in 16, 24, 32, 48, 64 and 128px. Could you 
help me?


Wish you a beautiful evening!

[Ring] Where is my avatar saved on GNOME client?

[inderaue23]

Hej there!

Unfortunately, i cannot find it in the files :(

But i want to use that one for another App.

Cheers and thanks!

[Ring] Ways to close Ring on GNOME client

[inderaue23]

Hej there!


I counted three graphical ways to close Ring on GNOME.

1. Systray entry in GNOME Shell. There are just two options "Show Ring" and 
"Quit".

2. GNOME top panel. There is just the option "Quit".

3. The close window "X" on the window decoration.


What do you think about reduce the possibilities here? E.g. remove option 2 
here, cause it does the same as clicking the close window "X". That could make 
UI/UX less cluttered. And i am not sure about the systray option. What if it 
would be just integrated in GNOME's notification panel? 
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/Notifications


Cheers!

Re: [Ring] GNOME keyring

[inderaue23]

Hej Sébastien,

thanks for the work in progress on 1. & 2.! 

Is there is public roadmap (maybe with milestones) where i can follow your 
progress?

> Nicolas Jäger  hat am 16. August 2017 um 
> 14:21 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> > 1. Am I unable to add a new device, if i set no password on account 
> > creation?
> you should always set a password. If you can create a ring account without 
> password, it may be a bug. I have to check that.
> 
> 
> > 2. How can i migrate my account? Is there something like an "export" 
> > button!?
> migrations are only made when a new version of ring required to update your 
> account. In that case a view will be pop when you start ring.
> 
> regards,
> Nicolas Jäger
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: inderau...@arcor.de
> To: "Nicolas Jäger" , ring@gnu.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:09:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ring] GNOME keyring
> 
> Hi Nicolas,
> 
> thanks for your quick reply! I was aware that SFL doesn't keep my passwords. 
> But i thought the App-Client does.
> Cause i am used, that other Apps (e.g. Skype) would do so. But you are right. 
> I also read, that there is no password needed to create an RingID.
> 
> 1. Am I unable to add a new device, if i set no password on account creation?
> 
> 2. How can i migrate my account? Is there something like an "export" button!?
> 
> Cheers and thanks!
> 
> > Nicolas Jäger hat am 16. August 2017 um 14:03 geschrieben:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > passwords for your ring accounts aren't saved anywhere. You don't need 
> > your password to use ring, It's mainly used when you want to add a new 
> > device and when a migration of your account is required. Also, please 
> > notice that SFL does NOT keep your password anywhere, so if you lose it, 
> > it's lost forever.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Nicolas Jäger
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: inderau...@arcor.de mailto:inderau...@arcor.de
> > To: ring@gnu.org mailto:ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:00:37 AM
> > Subject: [Ring] GNOME keyring
> > 
> > Hej there!
> > 
> > 
> > Does Ring or Ring client automatically store my password somewhere 
> > (e.g. if have Seahorse installed)?
> > 
> > It seems that there is no need to enter my password again. Even if i 
> > disabled to start Ring on login.
> > 
> > 
> > Have a beautiful day!
> >

Re: [Ring] GNOME keyring

[inderaue23]

hi, thanks! that solved my questions!

> Nicolas Jäger hat am 16. August 2017 um 14:21 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> > >1. Am I unable to add a new device, if i set no 
> password on account creation?
> > 
> > > you should always set a password. If you can create a ring account 
> > without password, it may be a bug. I have to check that.
> 
> > >1. How can i migrate my account? Is there something 
> like an "export" button!?
> > 
> > > migrations are only made when a new version of ring required to 
> > update your account. In that case a view will be pop when you start ring.
> 
> regards,
> Nicolas Jäger
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: inderau...@arcor.de mailto:inderau...@arcor.de
> To: "Nicolas Jäger" , ring@gnu.org mailto:ring@gnu.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:09:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ring] GNOME keyring
> 
> Hi Nicolas,
> 
> thanks for your quick reply! I was aware that SFL doesn't keep my 
> passwords. But i thought the App-Client does.
> Cause i am used, that other Apps (e.g. Skype) would do so. But you are 
> right. I also read, that there is no password needed to create an RingID.
>1. Am I unable to add a new device, if i set no password on account 
> creation?
> 
> 
>1. How can i migrate my account? Is there something like an "export" 
> button!?
> 
> 
> Cheers and thanks!
> 
> > > Nicolas Jäger hat am 16. August 2017 um 14:03 geschrieben:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > passwords for your ring accounts aren't saved anywhere. You don't 
> > need your password to use ring, It's mainly used when you want to add a new 
> > device and when a migration of your account is required. Also, please 
> > notice that SFL does NOT keep your password anywhere, so if you lose it, 
> > it's lost forever.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Nicolas Jäger
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: inderau...@arcor.de mailto:inderau...@arcor.de 
> > mailto:inderau...@arcor.de mailto:inderau...@arcor.de
> > To: ring@gnu.org mailto:ring@gnu.org mailto:ring@gnu.org 
> > mailto:ring@gnu.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:00:37 AM
> > Subject: [Ring] GNOME keyring
> > 
> > Hej there!
> > 
> > 
> > Does Ring or Ring client automatically store my password somewhere 
> > (e.g. if have Seahorse installed)?
> > 
> > It seems that there is no need to enter my password again. Even if 
> > i disabled to start Ring on login.
> > 
> > 
> > Have a beautiful day!
> > 
> > > 

[Ring] GNOME keyring

[inderaue23]

Hej there!


Does Ring or Ring client automatically store my password somewhere (e.g. if 
have Seahorse installed)?

It seems that there is no need to enter my password again. Even if i disabled 
to start Ring on login.


Have a beautiful day!

Re: [Ring] Bug or enhancement?

[inderaue23]

Hmm all my GNOME standard apps save their window state. E.g. Files or 
Evolution. They all use headerbars as well.

I didn't look at their code but maybe here is how that issue can be solved for 
Ring as well?

https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/SaveWindowState

What GTK+ version does Ring use?


> Guillaume Roguez <guillaume.rog...@savoirfairelinux.com> hat am 15. August 
> 2017 um 20:33 geschrieben:
> 
> I don't know... it's not on the Application side (it's the role of the 
> window manager to do so)
> 
> 
> - Le 15 Aoû 17, à 14:26, inderaue23 <inderau...@arcor.de> a écrit :
> 
> > > 
> > Yes, i use Wayland as my window system.
> > 
> > Will it be fixed on any recent GTK+ version?
> > 
> > 
> > > > > Guillaume Roguez <guillaume.rog...@savoirfairelinux.com> 
> > hat am 15. August 2017 um 20:10 geschrieben:
> > > 
> > > Which window system do you use?
> > > X11 or Wayland?
> > > 
> > > I suppose you are on Wayland if you use Fedora26: seem it's 
> > > not easy to support on Wayland
> > > 
> > > 
> > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38704662/save-and-restore-window-size-and-position-when-using-headerbar
> > > 
> > > So bug if it's X11, enhancement if it's Wayland
> > > 
> > > - Le 15 Aoû 17, à 13:36, inderaue23 <inderau...@arcor.de> 
> > > a écrit :
> > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > Running GNOME Client on Fedora 26 nightly built on 
> > > > 2017-08-14 19:23:42 UTC.
> > > > 
> > > > Found a bug or do wish an enhancement: Ring Window 
> > > > doesn't save it's state. Expected: It remembers the last state before 
> > > > closing the App window. What do you think? Or does it make Ring somehow 
> > > > vulnerable if window state is saved?
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers and thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 

Re: [Ring] Bug or enhancement?

[inderaue23]

Yes, i use Wayland as my window system.

Will it be fixed on any recent GTK+ version?


> Guillaume Roguez <guillaume.rog...@savoirfairelinux.com> hat am 15. August 
> 2017 um 20:10 geschrieben:
> 
> Which window system do you use?
> X11 or Wayland?
> 
> I suppose you are on Wayland if you use Fedora26: seem it's not easy to 
> support on Wayland
> 
> 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38704662/save-and-restore-window-size-and-position-when-using-headerbar
> 
> So bug if it's X11, enhancement if it's Wayland
> 
> - Le 15 Aoû 17, à 13:36, inderaue23 <inderau...@arcor.de> a écrit :
> 
> > > 
> > Running GNOME Client on Fedora 26 nightly built on 2017-08-14 
> > 19:23:42 UTC.
> > 
> > Found a bug or do wish an enhancement: Ring Window doesn't save 
> > it's state. Expected: It remembers the last state before closing the App 
> > window. What do you think? Or does it make Ring somehow vulnerable if 
> > window state is saved?
> > 
> > Cheers and thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > > 

[Ring] Bug or enhancement?

[inderaue23]

Running GNOME Client on Fedora 26 nightly built on 2017-08-14 19:23:42 UTC.

Found a bug or do wish an enhancement: Ring Window doesn't save it's state. 
Expected: It remembers the last state before closing the App window. What do 
you think? Or does it make Ring somehow vulnerable if window state is saved?

Cheers and thanks!

[Ring] Need some help with setting up a Ring account

[inderaue23]

hej there, first congrats for your 1.0 release!
hope you can help me with questions to finally set up Ring!


1. In the setup up (on GNOME Client) i see "Register public username
(experimental)"

--> I can check and uncheck that. What happens if i choose not to register it?
And what makes this registration still "experimental"?

2. Does it make sense to register an anonymous "username" for the public
directory and use my real name & foto as my "display name" to enhence privacy?

and related to that:

3. Do i get things right that there is no plausible deniability possible with
Ring right now?

4. How will you enhance Ring's security/privacy in the future?

And p.s. Gerrit, Tuleap, GitHub. That's pretty hard to follow right now ;) Why
do you use so many different plattforms instead of one? I know that e.g. GitHub
works as a mirror. But why do need that?

cheers and thanks!

[Ring] Why is there a different Ring Logo for Windows?

[inderaue23]

Hej there!

Found the Logo different to your Website/my GNOME Ring App/Android Apps here:
https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/store/p/gnu-ring/9nblggh43d70?rtc=1#

Thanks and have a beautiful day!

[Ring] (When) Will you do security audits or penetration tests?

[inderaue23]

Hej there!

Found that e.g. Briar project recently did that.
https://briarproject.org/raw/BRP-01-report.pdf

or Ricochet https://ricochet.im/files/ricochet-ncc-audit-2016-01.pdf


What about security experts looking at GNU Ring's code?


And a somehow related question in addition: Ricochet found a way to provide 
anonymous metadata-resistant instant messaging. Maybe that's something worth 
for you to look into?


Thanks and have a beautiful day!