Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-02-01 Thread BJW


To clarify, in ALL software, devices, etc.

I don't use only LMS or only iTunes, I use a wide variety of things and
others use my library as well.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-02-01 Thread carsten_h


BJW wrote: 
> I don't believe disc tags work that way, meaning they don't show text in
> such a view.

Sure it will be displayed (Material Skin Artwork view):
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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-02-01 Thread BJW


In an artwork view for instance, I see an artwork for each CD and the
text under it will say which disc bc i put it explicitly in the album
tag field...  I don't believe disc tags work that way, meaning they
don't show text in such a view.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-02-01 Thread carsten_h


BJW wrote: 
> For you, comp tags are necessary bc u split up a single comp CDs tracks
> between differing folders by using an artist, not albumartist structure.
> This is not recognized by ALL software.

Maybe, but all the software I am using works with this.

BJW wrote: 
> Same issue for disc tags, and disc tags don't give a visual indication
> either.

What? Really?
I have not seen any software that can not display the disc* tags.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-02-01 Thread BJW


I'm not sure if I'm answering your question, but the rules I have
created for me evolved over time, with the goal in mind that what I do
is so that my collection works the same way with ANY software that is
used, nothing is conflated or confused, and also so that things are
immediately obvious to me, easily recognized for what they are.

Some people don't like to use albumartist tags or only use them in
certain scenarios, etc, but to me it makes sense to simply always use
them.  I basically use them to sort things where I want to find them,
like u might in a CD store.  It has the added benefit of making sure I
can always find things in the same place in any software.  It also makes
sure all tracks from one CD group together.

Comp tags are completely optional in my usage.  I don't actually need
them.  But I do set comp=1 sometimes if I want certain software to
recognize something as a comp for whatever reason.

For you, comp tags are necessary bc u split up a single comp CDs tracks
between differing folders by using an artist, not albumartist structure.
This is not recognized by ALL software.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-02-01 Thread carsten_h


Thank you for the reply.

I think you also handle albums from different artists with the same name
(not only Best of etc.) in the same way?

I only set the albumartist when there are tracks that are made by the
original artist and someone else together.
For compilations (I only treat albums from totally different artists as
compilations like "Best of 80s" or so) I set PARTOFACOMPILATION to 1 and
ALBUMARTIST to nothing.

BJW wrote: 
> In addition to what I said in the link, I'll add I use a folder
> structure like this:
> 
> ../albumartist/album/track.mp3

I don't care about the folder structure, as Music is creating this in a
perfect way totally automatically since the beginning.
It is: artist/album/track.x. :-)

BJW wrote: 
> White Album (CD1)
> White Album (CD2)

I will not do this because I don't like it. Therefore I have the
DISCNUMBER and DISCTOTAL tags.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-31 Thread BJW


https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113775-Any-recommendations-on-how-to-Tag-Manage-Greatest-Hits-Best-Of-etc-(Same-Artist)=1007307=1#post1007307

In addition to what I said in the link, I'll add I use a folder
structure like this:

../albumartist/album/track.mp3

It is strictly one folder per CD, and I append multi disc like this when
I rip so it's both in the tag and folder structure:

White Album (CD1)
White Album (CD2)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread slartibartfast


carsten_h wrote: 
> Also when you order them by "Album" only:
> 33031The album view was sorted by "album" only. Seems to be an Apple issue.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread kidstypike


carsten_h wrote: 
> The folder structure is 1:1 the one Music/iTunes is using, so:
> music/artist/album/(xx-)yy-title.zzz
> 
> But that should be totally have no matter as the tags are used for
> sorting.
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, LMS will make it so, but Music/iPhone not.

I use mp3tag to tag albums *as I want them*, no album gets into my
library else.

Works fine for all my requirements.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread carsten_h


d6jg wrote: 
> If you have a problem with this it is probably because you are using a
> flat folder structure

The folder structure is 1:1 the one Music/iTunes is using, so:
music/artist/album/(xx-)yy-title.zzz

But that should be totally have no matter as the tags are used for
sorting.

d6jg wrote: 
> LMS will see these as different albums and you just need to tag the
> album name as Reveal with the correct album artist.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread carsten_h


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Yes

Also when you order them by "Album" only:
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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread kidstypike


I don't have a problem with separate folders -  Artist/Album/Tracks.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread slartibartfast


carsten_h wrote: 
> The problem is not mainly LMS. I manage the music on my Mac with the
> Music program from Apple and copy it 1:1 to the LMS piCorePlayer.
> There I have a list of all albums and all albums with the same name have
> only one entry. And when I have them on my iPhone there is the same
> problem.
> 
> I don't know what happens when I order the albums only by album in LMS.
> Are there different entries for every artist if the album names are the
> same?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread d6jg


carsten_h wrote: 
> Hello!
> 
> I want to know how the best possibilty is to tag albums with the same
> name but different artists like:
> "Reveal", which is available from "Fischer-Z" and from "R.E.M." or
> "Retro" from "New Order" or "Wingenfelder".
> 
> Until now I named the album:
> Reveal (Fischer-Z) and the other one
> Reveal (R.E.M.)
> or
> Retro (New Order)
> Retro (Wingenfelder)
> 
> What are your solutions for such albums with the same name?

If you have a problem with this it is probably because you are using a
flat folder structure ie

MUSIC / Track 1 from Reveal by REM
MUSIC / Track 2 from Reveal by REM
MUSIC / Track 1 from Reveal by Fischer-Z

If you use
MUSIC
- REM
- / Reveal / Tracks
- Fischer-Z 
-/ Reveal / Tracks

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread carsten_h


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Is there an issue with albums having the same name?

The problem is not mainly LMS. I manage the music on my Mac with the
Music program from Apple and copy it 1:1 to the LMS piCorePlayer.
There I have a list of all albums and all albums with the same name have
only one entry. And when I have them on my iPhone there is the same
problem.

I don't know what happens when I order the albums only by album in LMS.
Are there different entries for every artist if the album names are the
same?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

2021-01-21 Thread slartibartfast


carsten_h wrote: 
> Hello!
> 
> I want to know how the best possibilty is to tag albums with the same
> name but different artists like:
> "Reveal", which is available from "Fischer-Z" and from "R.E.M." or
> "Retro" from "New Order" or "Wingenfelder".
> 
> Until now I named the album:
> Reveal (Fischer-Z) and the other one
> Reveal (R.E.M.)
> or
> Retro (New Order)
> Retro (Wingenfelder)
> 
> What are your solutions for such albums with the same name?Is there an issue 
> with albums having the same name?

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