[RDD] Too busy to look at the time?

2022-02-25 Thread Rob Landry


I got an email from a station just now reporting a timed event problem. 
This is on RD 3.6.2 under CentOS 7.


There was a station ID set up as a timed event (start immediately, STOP 
transition) at 4:59:50. The previous hour was overprogrammed, the 
intention being that the song currently running would fade out at 4:59:50 
and the station ID would introduce a program to start at the top of the 
hour. The station's been doing this for a couple years now.


Today, however, according to the log listing in rdairplay, the song 
starting at 4:54:59.5 ended at precisely 4:59:50.0. The timed event was 
ignored, and additional songs continued to play until the ID was reached, 
well past its start time, and the station went silent due to the STOP 
transition. It stayed silent until 5:59:50, when a similar timed event 
fired another station ID to introduce the 6 AM hour.


I'm guessing the machine was busy dealing with the transition from one 
song to the next and did not check the time until 4:59:50.0 had passed.


I've seen this happen before; luckily, it doesn't happen very often.


Rob

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Re: [RDD] Reference OS

2022-02-25 Thread Rob Landry


I have not tried installing Rivendell on Debian since Debian 10. Is it 
still possible?



Rob

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, Steve wrote:


Hello,

Is the reference operating system for Rivendell still CentOS-something
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Re: [RDD] RDAirplay Crash - Double Free Corruption

2022-02-25 Thread Rob Landry


I'd be happy to upgrade them all, but they all need to be able to 
synchronize carts, cuts, and logs with backup Rivendell machines at other 
sites. This feature is mission-critical, as all of these stations run 
largely unattended, so when there's a problem in the studio we need to be 
able to switch to a backup machine and be sure that its contents will be 
up-to-date.


That's not a feature Rivendell has, so it's done with two external 
scripts. Switching to Rivendell 3 would require rewriting and testing 
those scripts, as the database structure has changed. The stations are 
happy with what they have, and no one's supporting them but me, so there 
you have it.


By the way, having those backups has saved WUMB's ass twice in as many 
years: when the power went down campus-wide for a week in the summer of 
2020, and again a couple weeks ago when a hardware problem took down the 
machine in the on-air studio.



Rob

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, starrbuck1...@gmail.com wrote:


And you really should upgrade them all.  Fred shouldn't have to support much
older versions.  It's just not realistic.


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:34 PM Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote:

  It's ancient, but I run it on at least half a dozen stations,
  and have
  never encountered any crashes at log-loading time.


  Rob

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  On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, Fred Gleason wrote:

  > On Feb 23, 2022, at 22:32, Steve  wrote:
  >       This is Rivendell 2.19.3 on CentOS 7.
  >
  >
  > That’s an ancient version. There have been literally hundreds
  of bug fixes
  > and feature enhancements made since in the v3.x tree. Your
  best bet would be
  > to upgrade.
  >
  > See:
  
>http://wiki.rivendellaudio.org/index.php/Upgrading_from_v2_to_v3_on_CentOS_

  > 7
  >
  > Cheers!
  >
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Re: [RDD] Reference OS

2022-02-25 Thread Fred Gleason
On Feb 24, 2022, at 18:10, Steve  wrote:

> Is the reference operating system for Rivendell still CentOS-something 
> or is Debian a solid option?

FWIW, the two distros I use for development of v4.x are RedHat Enterprise Linux 
and UbuntuStudio LTS, and those are the two distros for which I will be 
maintaining downstream integrations. That said however, the goal is to make 
v4.x source compatible with “Linux in general”, so downstream integrations with 
other distros are certainly possible if someone wants to step up and maintain 
it.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] RDAirplay Crash - Double Free Corruption

2022-02-25 Thread Fred Gleason
On Feb 24, 2022, at 16:23, starrbuck1...@gmail.com wrote:

> And you really should upgrade them all.  Fred shouldn't have to support much 
> older versions.  It's just not realistic.

And mostly I don’t, beyond recommending an upgrade to the latest-and-greatest 
(currently v3.6.4). Bugs reported on *that* version do get lots of attention 
however.

A word to those still running v2.x though — those versions are finally going to 
hit the end of the road when CentOS 7 goes EOL in June 2024, as Qt3 is not 
available on either of the successor systems (RHEL-8 or UbuntuStudio LTS). Best 
start thinking about the transition now.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Reference OS

2022-02-25 Thread Alejandro olivan Alvarez

Hi.

Being a Debian and radio enthusiast, Rivendell definitely caught my 
attention when it went 'debianized' in the development branches, of what 
will be in the future the next big release Rivendell4. However, the 
debian-based reference OS was (or is, AFAIK) Ubuntu-Studio, NOT Debian 
itself.


I packaged Rivendell 3 (as other did also) for Debian Buster, in order 
to learn and test it, but unlike Rivendell 4, it's sources are not meant 
to be debian-packaged out of the box, and the resulting packaging and OS 
integration (at least with my packaging skills) was somehow ugly ... 
However, the Rivendell 3 on Buster was ROCK SOLID and operated perfectly.


Rivendell 4 OTOH being debian-friendly on its sources, makes incredibly 
easy to maintain packaging-wise, so there're already Debian repos around 
(I myself keep one to help/ease install and test 4.X)... However, in my 
experience, there're some important problems with 4.X and Debian, so 
Ubuntu-Studio is IMHO the sure-bet for Debian-based distro and 4.X at 
this time.


AFAIK CentOS support will be maintained (obviously) so, CentOS 8 (and i 
bet upcoming CentOS verions and/or project forks) is for sure, one, if 
not the best option.


Best regards.

On 2/25/22 12:10 AM, Steve wrote:

Hello,

Is the reference operating system for Rivendell still CentOS-something
or is Debian a solid option?

Steve
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