Re: [Rosegarden-user] 1st bar blues

2021-04-18 Thread krsgrdn


Thanks for the offer, it won't be necessary. The only time
this would be critical is when recording but for finished
work I almost always used lead-in bars anyway. Right now I'm 
tinkering with a learning-aid the final version of which will
likewise handle the problem ..so I can wait for an upgrade :-)
Much obliged!


On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:37:26 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

> On 4/18/21 12:12 PM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> > Using 20.12 Altissimo BTW & Qsynth, and I don't
> > see such options.
> 
>Yeah, you'll need to build a recent version to get this feature.
> 
>We have a new page walking through the build process:
> 
> https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source
> 
>And I can help you through it if you have trouble.
> 
>Otherwise you'll probably have to wait for the changes to make it 
> into your favorite distro.  Could take a year or so depending on the distro.
> 
>In the meantime, you might be able to turn off CCs and PCs using the 
> instrument panel and the device editor.  Let me know if you want to try 
> that and I'll walk you through it.
> 
> Ted.
> 
>   As I said I can't pin it. Just
> > now it did it when playing a segment for the
> > first time and without any repeat. I also notice
> > that in the 1st 4/4 bar consisting of a single
> > whole chord and two half-note bass notes in
> > the bass track, the entire whole chord missed
> > out but only the first 1/2 bass note so that
> > 'missing a whole bar' would be inacurate.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:41:56 -0400
> > Ted Felix  wrote:
> > 
> >> Sounds like your synth might not be able to handle the program
> >> changes and control changes that we send at the beginning of a loop.
> >> You can turn this off in the preferences:
> >>
> >> Edit > Preferences > MIDI > Send program changes when looping
> >>
> >> And "Send control changes when looping" below it.
> >>
> >> Another option is to use a different synth.  E.g. fluidsynth handles
> >> this.
> >>
> >> Ted.
> >>
> >> On 4/18/21 9:17 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:05:10 -0400
> >>> krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> >>>
>  I've noticed that playing back some segments sometimes results in missed 
>  notes in the (or the entire) first bar. Prepending an extra empty bar 
>  may help, I haven't been able to put my finger on it
> >>>
> >>> I have a 7-bar chord prog test which normally plays back OK, but if I set 
> >>> it up for repeating in the Show-Transport dialog then after the first run 
> >>>  it cuts out the first chord in the chord track only while the first bass 
> >>> notes in the bass track play back OK.
> 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] 1st bar blues

2021-04-18 Thread Ted Felix

On 4/18/21 12:12 PM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

Using 20.12 Altissimo BTW & Qsynth, and I don't
see such options.


  Yeah, you'll need to build a recent version to get this feature.

  We have a new page walking through the build process:

https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/dev:building_rosegarden_from_source

  And I can help you through it if you have trouble.

  Otherwise you'll probably have to wait for the changes to make it 
into your favorite distro.  Could take a year or so depending on the distro.


  In the meantime, you might be able to turn off CCs and PCs using the 
instrument panel and the device editor.  Let me know if you want to try 
that and I'll walk you through it.


Ted.

 As I said I can't pin it. Just

now it did it when playing a segment for the
first time and without any repeat. I also notice
that in the 1st 4/4 bar consisting of a single
whole chord and two half-note bass notes in
the bass track, the entire whole chord missed
out but only the first 1/2 bass note so that
'missing a whole bar' would be inacurate.


On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:41:56 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:


Sounds like your synth might not be able to handle the program
changes and control changes that we send at the beginning of a loop.
You can turn this off in the preferences:

Edit > Preferences > MIDI > Send program changes when looping

And "Send control changes when looping" below it.

Another option is to use a different synth.  E.g. fluidsynth handles
this.

Ted.

On 4/18/21 9:17 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:05:10 -0400
krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:


I've noticed that playing back some segments sometimes results in missed notes 
in the (or the entire) first bar. Prepending an extra empty bar may help, I 
haven't been able to put my finger on it


I have a 7-bar chord prog test which normally plays back OK, but if I set it up 
for repeating in the Show-Transport dialog then after the first run  it cuts 
out the first chord in the chord track only while the first bass notes in the 
bass track play back OK.



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] 1st bar blues

2021-04-18 Thread krsgrdn
sorry, this may pop up twice, I first sent it out 
with wrong handle:
 
Using 20.12 Altissimo BTW & Qsynth, and I don't 
see such options. As I said I can't pin it. Just 
now it did it when playing a segment for the 
first time and without any repeat. I also notice
that in the 1st 4/4 bar consisting of a single
whole chord and two half-note bass notes in
the bass track, the entire whole chord missed
out but only the first 1/2 bass note so that 
'missing a whole bar' would be inacurate. 


On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:41:56 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>Sounds like your synth might not be able to handle the program 
> changes and control changes that we send at the beginning of a loop. 
> You can turn this off in the preferences:
> 
> Edit > Preferences > MIDI > Send program changes when looping
> 
> And "Send control changes when looping" below it.
> 
>Another option is to use a different synth.  E.g. fluidsynth handles 
> this.
> 
> Ted.
> 
> On 4/18/21 9:17 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:05:10 -0400
> > krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> > 
> >> I've noticed that playing back some segments sometimes results in missed 
> >> notes in the (or the entire) first bar. Prepending an extra empty bar may 
> >> help, I haven't been able to put my finger on it
> > 
> > I have a 7-bar chord prog test which normally plays back OK, but if I set 
> > it up for repeating in the Show-Transport dialog then after the first run  
> > it cuts out the first chord in the chord track only while the first bass 
> > notes in the bass track play back OK.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] 1st bar blues

2021-04-18 Thread Ted Felix
  Sounds like your synth might not be able to handle the program 
changes and control changes that we send at the beginning of a loop. 
You can turn this off in the preferences:


Edit > Preferences > MIDI > Send program changes when looping

And "Send control changes when looping" below it.

  Another option is to use a different synth.  E.g. fluidsynth handles 
this.


Ted.

On 4/18/21 9:17 AM, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:05:10 -0400
krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:


I've noticed that playing back some segments sometimes results in missed notes 
in the (or the entire) first bar. Prepending an extra empty bar may help, I 
haven't been able to put my finger on it


I have a 7-bar chord prog test which normally plays back OK, but if I set it up 
for repeating in the Show-Transport dialog then after the first run  it cuts 
out the first chord in the chord track only while the first bass notes in the 
bass track play back OK.




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] 1st bar blues

2021-04-18 Thread krsgrdn
On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:05:10 -0400
krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

> I've noticed that playing back some segments sometimes results in missed 
> notes in the (or the entire) first bar. Prepending an extra empty bar may 
> help, I haven't been able to put my finger on it

I have a 7-bar chord prog test which normally plays back OK, but if I set it up 
for repeating in the Show-Transport dialog then after the first run  it cuts 
out the first chord in the chord track only while the first bass notes in the 
bass track play back OK. 




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[Rosegarden-user] 1st bar blues

2021-04-18 Thread krsgrdn


I've noticed that playing back some segments sometimes results in missed notes 
in the (or the entire) first bar. Prepending an extra empty bar may help, I 
haven't been able to put my finger on it






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Re: [Rosegarden-user] double lyrics line how2

2021-04-18 Thread krsgrdn
On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 14:16:40 +0200
Yves Guillemot  wrote:

> Le 18 avril 2021 à 06H19 (-0400)
> krsg...@trixtar.org a écrit :
> 
> > I've managed to do it before, ONCE.
> > 
> > Working on a practice jam track, I want the
> > lyrics line to show the roman chord numerals
> > with the chord names below them. Foor a try 
> > I filled Verse-1 with chord names and Verse-2
> > with thue nujerals but I cannot get the verse-2 
> > content to show AT ALL :-(
> > 
> 
> Edit -> Preferences -> Notation -> Segments
> 
> Uncheck "Distribute verses among repeated segments".
> 
> BTW its looks like a bug as this should have no effect when segment
> is not repeated.

thanks!  I've ben told this before but forgot.
Just loaded RG on my laptop where the box WAS 
in fact unchecked and the result is as expected.
I don't know if it's bug or just an intuitivity 
issue.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] double lyrics line how2

2021-04-18 Thread Yves Guillemot
Le 18 avril 2021 à 06H19 (-0400)
krsg...@trixtar.org a écrit :

> I've managed to do it before, ONCE.
> 
> Working on a practice jam track, I want the
> lyrics line to show the roman chord numerals
> with the chord names below them. Foor a try 
> I filled Verse-1 with chord names and Verse-2
> with thue nujerals but I cannot get the verse-2 
> content to show AT ALL :-(
> 

Edit -> Preferences -> Notation -> Segments

Uncheck "Distribute verses among repeated segments".

BTW its looks like a bug as this should have no effect when segment
is not repeated.

Yves

 



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[Rosegarden-user] double lyrics line how2

2021-04-18 Thread krsgrdn


I've managed to do it before, ONCE.

Working on a practice jam track, I want the
lyrics line to show the roman chord numerals
with the chord names below them. Foor a try 
I filled Verse-1 with chord names and Verse-2
with thue nujerals but I cannot get the verse-2 
content to show AT ALL :-(

TIA



  


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