Re: [Rosegarden-user] Reverb for a specific MIDI track

[S. Christian Collins]

On 04/28/2014 04:24 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> ...
> Qsynth seems to completely override this and the only way to add
> reverb seemsto be using its own controls. On the other hand fluidsynth
> (from command line) responds correctly to the reverb (and chorus)
> control changes. Lorenzo.
In my experience, you need to enable the reverb in the qsynth GUI, turn
up the level, and that will set your maximum reverb level for the synth.
However, CC91 should still control the reverb level per-track, with some
amount of reverb level variance provided by the per-instrument/preset
reverb levels contained within the SoundFont itself. The same holds true
for the chorus.

-~Chris

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Encouragement

[S. Christian Collins]

Perhaps some more encouragement, I did the music for the iPhone video
game "Star Rangers" back in 2009 using Rosegarden for everything until
the mastering stage. My orchestral SoundFonts at the time were pretty
awful, but it was my first time doing a game soundtrack, and my first
project using only open-source software. You can hear the music at this
page , and you will
need to scroll down to "Film and Game Scores" to see it.

-~Chris


On 01/26/2013 12:11 PM, Abrolag wrote:
> For Michael and the other long-suffering devs.
>
> I've just completed a project that uses Rosegarden to drive two instances of
> Yoshimi at a total of 32 different instruments for 8 minutes. It is intended 
> to
> be a demo of Yoshimi's capabilities, but I thought you'd like to know about it
> as it's also a demo of Rosegarden at the same time.
>
> The entire project was built up relying mostly on melodic parts played in real
> time with some editing later. Arps and chord stabs were also recorded live, 
> but
> unfortunately I had to quantise some of these as my playing wasn't regular
> enough - particularly on the longer sections where these old fingers are
> getting a little stiff :(
>
> The only fly in the ointment is a problem in the matrix editor when using the
> controller 7 window. Occasionally it would place the 'dots' oddly, then the
> next editing attempt would crash Rosegarden completely. Otherwise, it survived
> heavy editing and copying with multiple part windows open and me rapidly going
> backwards and forwards.
>
> If you're interested the completed track is:-
> http://www.musically.me.uk/music/Ride_With_Yoshimi.ogg
>
> If anyone is *really* interested I can let you have the complete project files
> (there are only four :)
>

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Trouble with instrument programs and variations

[S. Christian Collins]

On 01/06/2013 05:29 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> It's amazing how close to dead you can get and still breathe though,
> isn't it? I literally had to miss work, because I was just too
> emotionally screwed up to be handling thousands of gallons of gasoline
> right in the heart of the worst part of all that. 
Yeah, I remember getting sick as hell. When you're going through so much
turmoil, that's when your immune system loves to give out on you--at the
worst possible time.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Trouble with instrument programs and variations

[S. Christian Collins]

I'm praying for you, D. Michael. I know it can be hard at times--going
through my divorce was like experiencing a real-life hell. I found that
I was unable to enjoy anything in life when I felt the world crumbling
around me. It can take a long time to get to that place of peace in
one's life; I found that I couldn't have done it without a little help
from above.

I appreciate all the work you have done on Rosegarden, even if you
aren't always happy with it. Try not to be discouraged!

-~Chris

On 01/05/2013 05:15 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>  > You're just feeling stressed out right now, you'll feel better in the 
>  > morning!
>
> I am.  I do.
>
> I'm mildly annoyed at how long it took to notice this controller thing, 
> but it's just a clear failure of getting the requirements right and 
> getting the testing right.  It can be dealt with, and I shouldn't have 
> been such an asshole yesterday toward a great guy like Tom Breton who 
> works so hard and is so reliably consistent about plugging away at this 
> stuff until it's right.
>
> I really am stressed out right now, and none of it has anything to do 
> with Rosegarden.  My personal life is just an impressive train wreck.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Happy New Year everyone

[S. Christian Collins]

You too! Here's to an awesome 2013 :)  *clink*
-~Chris

On 12/31/2012 05:56 PM, Abrolag wrote:
> That's all :)
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Strange MIDI input problem with volume

[S. Christian Collins]

Is it possible that one MIDI device is sending much higher velocity
values than the other? Try recording three different velocities on each
keyboard (soft, med and hard) and compare the velocity values using the
event list or piano roll view.

At the music school we were using a Yamaha DX-II as a MIDI controller,
and the highest velocity it would output was 100. You can use a program
like QMidiRoute
 to scale
the velocity of a MIDI input before passing it on to Rosegarden.

-~Chris

On 12/21/2012 12:58 PM, Jose cuckoo wrote:
> HI
> I wondered if any one has encountered the same problem as me.
> Description of the problem
> 
> When I connect two different midi devices  they have different volumes.
> i.e.
>1. connect the yamaha and sound is soft.
> 2. disconnect midi cable and connect to other midi device. Volume
> increases
>3. reconnect  cable to yamaha . Volume  of sound is soft again.
>
> The problem is I wish to have both devices connected at the same time
> but the second device drowns out the yamaha.
>
> The question is . It appears that some how the Yamaha is sending a
> volume command that is not present on the keyboard itself.
> Is there a way in Rosegarden to overide the midi volume ( The
> Instrument Parameter Volume does not do this)
> based on either the MIDI port or channel?
>
> Configuration:
> 
> Version of Rosegarden  : 12.04
> Soundfont loaded by : asfxload WeedsGM3 -V 100
>
> MIDI Input devices used :
>   a) Yamaha SHS-10
>   b) Unknown Chinese Midi keyboard
> 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Metronome don't play right flow rate!

[S. Christian Collins]

First of all, let's find out what clock sources are available to Debian
and see which one is being used. Run this command:

|cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/*|

This will return two lines of information. The first line contains the
available clock sources and the second line is the currently active
clock source. By default, Ubuntu uses "tsc". I'm not sure if Debian does
the same or not. Here is what the above command returns on my system:

|tsc hpet acpi_pm
hpet|

You can see that my system is set to the HPET timer. It originally was
set to TSC (CPU clock), but the CPU clock was not accurate so I changed it.

Here's how to change the clock source, assuming you have GRUB 2 installed:

 1. Restart your PC. You should see a GRUB menu appear which allows you
to choose which OS or Linux kernel to boot into. If you don't see
the menu, hold down the SHIFT key while booting to make it appear.
 2. With the current Linux version highlighted on the menu, press 'e' to
edit the entry. Keep in mind that the edit we do will only affect
the current boot.
 3. Find the line that begins with "linux /boot..." and ends with
something like "quiet splash". Go to the end of that line and add
"clocksource=hpet" (without the quotes, of course).
 4. Press CTRL-X to boot.
 5. Your system will be using the HPET timer rather than the CPU timer
during this session.

If you find that this change works, let me know and I'll give you
instructions for making it permanent.
-~Chris

On 11/14/2012 12:09 PM, Delpistroumph wrote:
> Le 14/11/2012 16:32, S. Christian Collins a écrit :
>> Does it improve if you add the following to your kernel boot parameters?
>>
>> clocksource=hpet
>>
>> -~Chris
>>
> I would like to try but not (enough) sure how to do that.
> What file are you exactly thinking about? (debian system)
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Metronome don't play right flow rate!

[S. Christian Collins]

Does it improve if you add the following to your kernel boot parameters?

clocksource=hpet

-~Chris

On 11/14/2012 04:58 AM, Delpistroumph wrote:
> Le 24/10/2012 10:44, Holger Marzen a écrit :
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, Delpistroumph wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I'm a drummer and I use to work with Ardour2 and a Korg KDM2 metronome.
>>> When I set 120 on the Korg KDM2 metronome, it's the same flow rate as 
>>> Ardour2:
>>> I can use the grid or the ardour2 metronome:
>>> _ it's the same flow rate_.
>>>
>>> But not with rosegarden!
>>>
>>> So I guess it's rosegaden that don't play the good flow rate.
>>>
>>> Know issue?
>>> Any solutions?
>> Depends on your PC.
>>
>> I had some problems with Rosegarden running faster and slower. But this
>> wasn't Rosegarden's fault.
>>
>> On Intel Core-CPUs we have 2 mechanisms setting CPU speed:
>> - Speedstep
>> - Turbo Boost
>>
>> While the Linux system timer can handle Speedstep (e.g. set by cpufreqd)
>> it can't handle Turbo Boost. Turbo Boost increases CPU's clock when only
>> one CPU-core need's more power.
>>
>> My solution:
>> Disable Turbo Boost in the PC's BIOS.
>>
> Hi.
>
> I've already disable all BIOS option about the cpu speed, cause that 
> made xrun.
> The tempo is regular, but note the same as ardour.
>
> I will ask to ardour's forum to search a better solution.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] How to disable JACK?

[S. Christian Collins]

KXStudio  also sets Jack up as the
uber sound driver for the system, which I LOOOVE! I never have to think
about whether or not Jack needs to be started, etc., because it's always
running. KXStudio also integrates Pulseaudio as just another Jack
client. This makes it really easy to capture the sound out of anything
that happens to be running on my PC. And everything Just Works(tm).

-~Chris


On 10/31/2012 01:07 AM, Holger Marzen wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, John O'Hagan wrote:
>
>> On 29/10/12 09:33, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>>> On 10/28/2012 02:06 PM, Jim Cochrane wrote:
 jackd is started up whenever I start
 rosegarden, even though this box is unchecked.  Is there another spot in
 the GUI to disable jack that I'm not seeing?
>>> There is no box for that as such.  Rosegarden isn't starting jackd so
>>> much as the JACK API is starting jackd.  I misremember the technical
>>> details, but basically we made a minor change to use a different API
>>> call, and now the audio server starts itself when Rosegarden does if
>>> it's not already running.  This is basically a good thing, since it
>>> starts Rosegarden with all of its features enabled by default.
>> [...]
>>
>>> I suppose we could consider making some config option that would prevent
>>> Rosegarden from even attempting to start JACK, but I'd really rather not
>>> bother unless there is a lot of demand.  It's just one more confusing
>>> configuration option for people to misunderstand, one more thing for
>>> everybody to have to translate, and one more thing for users to forget
>> [...]
>>
>> I agree with the approach, but there is an unfortunate consequence in 
>> this case, at least on my Debian XFCE box, RG 12.04: after using 
>> Rosegarden, jackd remains running, and prevents all my normal (ALSA) 
>> applications' audio from working, except the handful which are 
>> automatically jack-aware. This means manually terminating jack, from a 
>> task manager or whatever, after each RG session; users still have to 
>> manage jack, with all the attendant potential for confusion.
> On my Xubuntu 11.10 I never had a problem. Rosegarden started and endet
> my jackd. My .jackdrc was "/usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -r44100 -p128 -n2 -Xseq
> -D -Chw:5,1 -Phw:0,1"
>
> But since JACK has so many advantages (e.g. recording flash-sound when
> running firefox to record streaming-only content in the web) I decided
> that all applications should be redirected to jack. This works with the
> following ~./asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf:
>
> pcm.!default {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "jack"
> }
>
> pcm.jack {
> type jack
> playback_ports {
> 0 system:playback_1
> 1 system:playback_2
> }
> capture_ports {
> 0 system:capture_1
> 1 system:capture_2
> }
> }
>
> My jackd is now started by qjackctl that's autonatically started by my
> session manager.
>
> I can now even record the sound that's produced by virtual machines
> (VirtualBox), eg. browser sounds of a Windows-VM.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Instrument (midi channel) change is not updated during playback [WAS] Re: auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically

[S. Christian Collins]

On 10/27/2012 07:27 AM, Abrolag wrote
> Actually, I think Lorenzo meant concerted :)
I was wondering about that, LOL! Certainly nobody was coming across as
conceited to me.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Instrument (midi channel) change is not updated during playback [WAS] Re: auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically

[S. Christian Collins]

My question: do MIDI program change messages at least work during
playback?  This is something that should be supported by any MIDI sequencer.

-~Chris

On 10/26/2012 04:25 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 10/25/2012 05:16 PM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:
>
>> But what's puzzling me most is that I can't reproduce it in the current
>> working version.  I did what I thought the steps were, but I must have
>> missed something.
> First up, let's all get on the same page.  I read Lorenzo's message 
> again and as far as I can tell we're all still talking about playback, 
> _not_ recording.  If you found some weird recording thing, it's not what 
> we're talking about.
>
> 1. Draw a segment on track 1 and put some junk in it, set it to repeat
>
> This is our noise making source.  It repeats just so you have less junk 
> to draw to slap the test together, and you could substitute a really 
> long segment filled with lots and lots of junk (or even real music if 
> you prefer!)
>
> 2. While it's playing, change the instrument on track 1 from #1 to #2, 
> which also changes the channel from 1 to 2 in the process.
>
> Rosegarden 11.whatever I tested with this morning actually made the 
> channel changes instantly.
>
> Al Thompson did a good job of summing up why I never noticed we used to 
> do that: changing channels during playback is often a good way to 
> experience mayhem.
>
> Now, apparently, we don't do that anymore.  Change the instrument to #2 
> now and nothing happens until you interrupt and restart playback.  Since 
> the behavior changed, and it's apparently behavior at least one user has 
> come to expect, it's officially a regression.
>
> Since two out of three users surveyed think changing channels while 
> playback is rolling is a goofy thing to do anyway, it doesn't look much 
> like it's worth taking on Batman to me.
>
> I don't have a strong opinion on any of this, and will go with the flow.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synth plugin *.so files not found or unusable [12.04]

[S. Christian Collins]

It could be worse.  Due to a sordid, uninteresting tale of forgotten
usernames and attempts to consolidate accounts, I am now known on almost
every message board as Mr. Bumpy (mrbumpy409).

I have no one to blame but myself, but if I could start over...
-~Chris

On 10/26/2012 04:35 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 10/25/2012 03:56 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:
>
>> T H I S  is what I was lookin' for, thanks a zillion! When I pointed
>> let's say my 1st instance of qsynth to a given soundfont file I
>> _presumed_ it was being 'loaded' so that any calls to my qs1 would
>> include.
> It's all good.  You should have seen me wrestling with these same issues 
> when I first started.
>
>> Do you play the trumpet BTW  [rosegarden.trumpeter]?
> Yes, back when GMail first came out and I was creating an account for 
> the merry hell of it, I thought that would be so cute and wonderful. 
> I'm a Rosegarden guy, and a trumpet player, so I will wear this on my 
> sleeve like a three year old.
>
> In those days, I didn't use it for anything real, but things evolved 
> over time, and I ended up using it as my primary address when one 
> account after another dried up.  It looks great on job applications and 
> business cards, let me tell you.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Instrument (midi channel) change is not updated during playback [WAS] Re: auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically

[S. Christian Collins]

I don't know that I've ever tried to change MIDI instrument/channel
during playback using any music software. Is this something that other
programs do? I've always auditioned my instrument changes live with a
MIDI keyboard with playback stopped.

-~Chris

On 10/25/2012 07:38 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I'll try to summarize and be a little more detailed.
> I did some tests again with the latest SVN build.
>
> - Connect "General MIDI Device" to gmidimonitor (but any midi monitor 
> will do)
> - Create a 2 bar segment with notes
> - Check the "repeat" segment
>
> ( this is totally irrelevant to the channel problem - it's just useful 
> to set up lots of playback quickly, sorry if it generated confusion )
>
> - Play
>
> - Instrument is set to #1 and channel is correctly 1
> - Select a different instrument (channel) from the Instrument dropdown 
> _while playing_
>
> _This_ seems to be the problem. Until you stop and re-start play the 
> channel is unchanged.
>
> I also noticed that now Channel is set to fixed by default for a new 
> file (but I think this actually is irrelevant to the problem)
>
> So all that noise seems to sum up to:
>
> Instrument/channel won't be updated during playback.
>
> Hope it's clearer now. Should I add a bug report?
>
> Lorenzo.
>
> On 21/10/12 16:30, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>> On 10/18/2012 05:10 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>>
>>> Try this wit ha a midi monitor connected to rosegarden (e.g.
>>> GMIDImonitor) and you'll see what I mean: create a small segment put
>>> some random notes in, put it in repeat mode start playing and changing
>>> the channels and setting channel to fixed. I can't seem to find a
>>> reasonable logic in what's going on :|
>> Segment 1 bar long with 4 notes in it.  Check.
>>
>> Hook up to KMidiMon.  Check.
>>
>> "Repeat mode" is an imprecise description, so I'm not sure how to
>> duplicate that.
>>
>> Attempt 1: Interpret "repeat mode" as "set the segment to repeat."  Hit
>> play.
>>
>> Watch a jillion iterations of everything going on channel 1.  Fail to
>> repeat bug.
>>
>> Attempt 2: Interpret "repeat mode" as "set a loop and put the transport
>> in loop mode."  Hit play.
>>
>> Watch a jillion iterations of everything going on channel 1.  Fail to
>> repeat bug.
>>
>> All of this started from scratch with a default autoload.rg from current
>> SVN, so all the instruments had channels set to fixed from the beginning.
>>
>> Attempt 3:  Change instrument #1 to "auto."  Repeat attempts 1 and 2
>> with identical results.  Everything still on channel 1.
>>
>> Attempt 4: Save file in this state.  Restart.  Repeat attempts 1 and 2
>> with identical results.  Everything still on channel 1.
>>
>> Attempt 5: Start messing with instrument #2.  Same results ad infinitum.
>>
>>> On a side note: the Channel auto thing seems to have broken all my .rg
>>> file previous to its introduction. Does this mean that it has backward
>>> broken .rg files?
>> If I remember correctly, the way it's supposed to work is that since old
>> .rg files contain no fixed/auto information, we have to pick one and set
>> it to something, and we're supposed to be setting it to fixed.
>>
>> I'm being kind of terse here because I'm finally getting to this on my
>> way to bed, but please don't take my terseness for a bad attitude on my
>> part.  I'm totally sincere about wanting to make sure there are no
>> problems here.
>>
>> What I'm seeing right now is a distinct lack of weird or unexpected
>> behavior.  I suspect if there's any bad behavior to see, it's going to
>> take a more complex test case than one segment with a few notes in it.
>>
>> If I see anything weird here, some of the controller traffic looks like
>> it could be suspect.  I'm not trying to think about that one yet.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...

[S. Christian Collins]

LOL, I meant Haiku the OS, but that works too :)

How about this little gem:

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Some poems rhyme,
And some poems don't.

-~Chris


On 08/31/2012 07:30 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, S. Christian Collins
>  wrote:
>> YES  That was awesome.  Now we just need a haiku about Haiku ;)
> OK:
>
> First: five syllables.
> Second: seven syllables.
> Last: five syllables.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...

[S. Christian Collins]

As the saying goes: "To err is human.  But to really f*** up, you need a
computer."

Being a perfectionist, I have always spent a lot of effort to get
everything working perfectly (a futile pursuit, I have discovered). 
After years of this, I have had to resolve to the fact that I am using
an incredibly complex system designed by imperfect beings.  Realizing
this has helped me to be a lot less pissed off all the time.  I consider
it a miracle that any of this actually works at all!

Regarding Linux audio: The KXStudio method of having Jack as the main
audio server (with Pulseaudio as a slave)  seems to work quite well. 
And on systems that I don't want Jack running all the time, I can do the
following (instructions for Ubuntu):

 1. Install the package *pulseaudio-module-jack*
 2. In qjackctl, set the following for the post-startup script:

pactl load-module module-jack-sink channels=2; pactl load-module
module-jack-source channels=2; pacmd set-default-sink jack_out

 3. In KDE, you will need to change your KDE Phonon device priority so
that the Pulseaudio Jack Sink is chosen by default.  If some
applications continue to play through the other source by default
(which will result in no sound), you can reassign it using Kmix by
right-clicking on the sound source and choosing "move to".

Adding this command will make Pulseaudio a slave to Jack while it is
running.  This works great on my laptop.  I frequently use Rosegarden in
my piano lessons to accompany my students using a USB MIDI keyboard, and
being able to also refer to a song recording simultaneously is a nice
bonus.  You might think, "Windows users don't have to deal with this." 
However, that's not true... if I use audio software in Windows on my
laptop, I have to use WaveRT exclusive mode to get low latencies, and
when I do that, it is not possible to play sound from any other
application at the same time.

-~Chris


On 08/31/2012 11:23 AM, Louis Gorenfeld wrote:
>> Let's take Linux audio, for example.  The first thing we have to do is
>> take ALSA, OSS, JACK, PulseAudio, GStreamer, and everything else you can
>> think off off the top of your head, gather all of that up and shove it
>> right down the garbage disposer.  Linux audio is just about the most
>> ludicrous example of design by committee I can think of.
> I think ALSA, as painful as it can be, is a pretty good layer
> performance-wise. As an example, I was able to get a complex PD patch
> I made down to a few milliseconds with ALSA (about 10 or 15?) when
> running on an Atom-based system with on-board audio. On Windows, with
> ASIO4ALL, I was still only able to get down to 40ms buffer size or so
> without breakups.
>
> With JACK on top of it, it's apparently a lot easier to code for and
> still performs very nicely. So, I'd argue that we don't need to throw
> it out as much as adopt JACK as the main sound server.
>
>> I don't know, man.  Really, when I think about it fairly, Windows has
>> just about as many problems as we do with audio, and if OS-X doesn't,
>> it's only because the hardware ecosystem OS-X is expected to function
>> with is extremely narrow and limited.
> One thing I would point out here is that low latency audio devices are
> not necessarily tested on Linux. This is a distinct advantage of the
> two commercial platforms (or: no operating system is an island!). In
> this way, OS X is *not*  functioning in a limited ecosystem, yet I've
> had few issues with it (aside from with DigiDesign's drivers!).
>
>> I guess the problem ain't just Linux, it's these damned computational
>> machine box things generally.  They say they're supposed to do stuff,
>> and there are even books telling you what to expect them to do, but in
>> practice, they fail to perform so often, and year after year, decade
>> after decade, the problems never really go away and stay gone.
>>
>> There are happy moments, little islands of stability where everything
>> works flawlessly, and life is good, but these moments are always temporary.
> It's really just about finding a configuration of hw, os and software
> that works for your purposes. These machines are so complex that I
> don't think there's any one config that'll work for everyone's needs.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...

[S. Christian Collins]

FWIW, I have been using Thunderbird for years as my e-mail client of
choice, and it has never let me down.  I've got seven e-mail accounts
coming into it, using Lightning for my calendar (synced up with multiple
Google calendars).  I've got tons of stored e-mails all the way back to
1999 and all of this running off of an encrypted flash drive so I can
move it between my PC and my laptop.  Thunderbird may look kinda ugly in
KDE compared to Kmail, but it's all about the functionality for me.

-~Chris

On 08/30/2012 06:39 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 08/29/2012 05:14 PM, Chris Cannam wrote:
>> I'm not sure there is such a simple dichotomy, though. It has so much 
>> to do with temperament and perspective.
> Indeed.  Rosegarden is a perfect example.  If I could go spend, say, 
> $500 once for something that did everything Rosegarden wants to do, and 
> behaved in a pretty similar way all around, then I probably would have 
> parted with that cash years ago.  The problem is you can spend a lot 
> more than $500 for two or three different applications that don't even 
> communicate with each other, don't share data amongst themselves, etc.  
> Not only do you not get the Rosegarden that works that you pay for, you 
> don't pay for it once.  Oh no no.
>
> I was still using a version of Cakewalk that only understood 8.3 
> filenames all the way to 2001.  I paid for it once in 1993 or something, 
> and I was damn well going to keep using it forever.
>
> That's the great thing about FOSS.  Free updates for life.  You don't 
> pay once, you don't pay ever, and the updates just keep flowing.
>
> The crappy thing about FOSS is that that old version from 10 years ago 
> that worked perfectly will no longer compile on a modern system.  Just 
> look at all the hell we went through keeping Rosegarden alive through 
> the Qt 4 nightmare.  This means that whether you do it today or next 
> month or a couple of years from now, sooner or later you're going to 
> have to upgrade your entire system from top to bottom.
>
> When you do, you may break half the world.  Or at least break the most 
> important application you use every day.
>
> When that happens, there's just no good answer.  Can I pay money for a 
> KMail that actually works, and doesn't break the continuity of 11 years 
> of the same ~/Mail folder?  Apparently not.  Whether I pay money or not, 
> I'm still just shit out of luck on that front. Thanks, KMail developers, 
> for completely destroying an application I've been using at least a 
> dozen times a day for 11 years.  Even though I'm a developer and I well 
> understand how hard this whole game is, I'm more than half tempted to go 
> create a KDE bugs account for the sole purpose of extending them a big 
> fuck you.
>
> It wouldn't be productive at all, or fair, but it might be cathartic.
>
> Bitter?  Not me.  No, never.
>
> We'll see how Thunderbird fares.  I have deep concerns that this message 
> is going to come out in HTML.  If so, I apologize.  I'll figure it out 
> in due course.  It looks like this is my KMail replacement, and it's a 
> huge improvement so far, because I can actually click on a message and 
> read it any time I want.  Plus, it's not webmail.  I detest webmail.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...

[S. Christian Collins]

On 08/30/2012 07:27 AM, Richard Bown wrote:
> On 30 Aug 2012, at 09:13, Chris Cannam  wrote:
>> There's just no poetry in you.
> Ok, this is your fault.
>
> http://masticate.com/2012/08/30/ode-to-a-preemptive-multitasking-kernel/
YES  That was awesome.  Now we just need a haiku about Haiku ;)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] KXStudio

[S. Christian Collins]

I will second this recommendation.  Another nice touch is the ability to
run PulseAudio as a Jack client, which means using KXStudio, I never
have problems with applications not able to produce sound.

-~Chris

On 08/29/2012 09:22 AM, Gary G. wrote:
> I've seen a lot of buzz on the list lately about 
> Multimedia Based Distros and Addons that make 
> working with Rosegarden and Jack Audio a little 
> easier.
>
> I've been using KXStudio for the past year without 
> a hiccup.  It's an addon for Ubuntu and Kubuntu but 
> also claims to be workable with other distros as 
> well.
>
> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>
> It works well, is well maintained and generally 
> quite stable.  I'd fully recommend it to anyone out 
> there who is having trouble trying to fit all the 
> pieces of the puzzle together on their own... ;)
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary
>
> 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...

[S. Christian Collins]

Sorry to hear your upgrade didn't go well, Michael.  I've had a few
things break over the years during upgrades, but nothing so completely
trashed as what it seems you experienced.  I'm currently using the
latest Kubuntu 12.04, and I have to say I'm quite spoiled by KDE.  Among
other things, I'm loving:

  * Complete control over window management.  For example, I told KDE to
make the Rosegarden transport 85% transparent and to not show it in
the taskbar.  Every time I open Dolphin or Kate, they open to the
same size, regardless of whatever size I might have left them at
previously.  Multiple Gimp pictures automatically open within the
same tabbed window.  Firefox & Chrome always open centered.  Etc.,
etc.  I also have "keep above" among my window buttons, keyboard
shortcuts for tiling the windows to each side, and much more.  Some
people might not like all the options, but once configured to do
/everything/ you want (or could imagine wanting), you feel like a god!
  * Activities + Multiple desktops are nice.  If I want to do a
screencast, I simply switch to my screencast activity which has a
different wallpaper and does away with the desktop widgets.
  * If I want to edit my applications menu, I simply right-click on it
and select "Edit Applications...".  Try doing that on Unity.
  * KDE applications such as Dolphin (awesome dual-pane file manager),
Klipper (multiple-entry clipboard tray icon), K3B & more.  It's also
easy to make custom Dolphin right-click menu actions such as "Copy
Path", "MD5Sum", "Convert Audio File", etc.
  * I feel like KDE gives me the tools to deal with other application's
shortcomings.  For example, I can have the system suspend
compositing for a specific program (although I've never needed to
use this), or generally for all fullscreen games to maximize
performance (this is the default).  Flash and VLC don't properly
suspend the screen saver during a long movie?  No problem, I can
click the battery icon, and temporarily suspend the power management
whenever I want.

I could go on and on, but the point is that despite its bugs and the
occasional battles, I have found computing heaven in KDE + Linux.  Once
it is set up properly, I feel like I am in total control of my system,
and whenever I use a different OS or desktop environment, there are a
lot of things I miss.

Every OS has its battles.  For me it comes down to: which battles are
you willing to fight?  Like Michael, I also tire at times of the issues
with Linux, and the time it takes to get them resolved.  In the end,
though, I still prefer it to the types of issues I have to deal with in
Windows and the entire ecosystem that surrounds that platform.  I don't
have a lot of experience with Mac OS to really comment on that
platform.  Being so well-integrated between software and hardware, there
are battles that simply don't need to be fought on that platform.  That
being said, my Mac-using friends have been complaining to me about the
bloat/slowness of recent Mac OS upgrades, applications that no longer
work correctly, and I have to think to myself: at least us Linux users
have alternatives.  System is bloated?  Switch desktop environment (or
distribution).  Don't like the direction your favorite DE is headed? 
There are alternatives.  (I will resist the urge to take a swipe at
GNOME 3 here... oh wait, I guess I just did.)

Alright, this is long-winded enough.  I hope you're able to get your
system back to a satisfactory state, Michael.

God Bless,
-~Chris

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden Crashing on Bootup

[S. Christian Collins]

Okay, this is a stab in the dark, but try renaming the following folder
(to disable your current configuration):
/home//.config/rosegardenmusic

I'd rename it to something like "rosegardenmusic.DISABLED" so you can
easily rename it back if you need to.  Anyway, does Rosegarden start up now?

-~Chris

On 06/14/2012 10:30 PM, Gary G. wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 with KXstudio addons and AFAIK the most recent 
> Rosegarden version from the KXstudio archives.
>
> I haven't run rosegarden for about a week or so and after a week of 
> cumulative updates and a recent kernel update Rosegarden is now crashing on 
> bootup.
>
> Here's the output I get when I try and run it in a terminal.
>
> Anyone spot any obvious turds in the punchbowl?
>
> [code]---
>
> userone@machineone:~$ rosegarden
> Setting graphics system for Qt 4.5+ to: raster
> Thorn - true
> System Locale: en_US
> Qt translations path: /usr/share/qt4/translations
> Qt translations not loaded.
> RG Translation: trying to load :locale/en_US
> RG Translations loaded successfully.
> Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-16x16"
> Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-32x32"
> Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-48x48"
> Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-64x64"
> Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-128x128"
> NOTE: Found stylesheet at ":/rosegarden.qss", applying it
> AlsaDriver::AlsaDriver [begin]
> Rosegarden 11.11.42 - AlsaDriver [ALSA library version 1.0.25, module version 
> 1.0.24, kernel version 3.2.0-23-lowlatency]
> PluginFactory::instance(dssi): creating new DSSIPluginFactory
> LADSPAPluginFactory::discoverPlugins - discovering plugins; path is 
> [/usr/lib/dssi] [/usr/local/lib/dssi] [/usr/lib32/dssi] [/home/userone/.dssi] 
>
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK sample rate = 48000Hz, buffer size = 1024
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - creating disk thread
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 6 JACK physical outputs
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "rosegarden:master out L" to 
> "system:playback_1"
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "rosegarden:master out R" to 
> "system:playback_2"
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 6 JACK physical inputs
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "system:capture_1" to 
> "rosegarden:record in 1 L"
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "system:capture_2" to 
> "rosegarden:record in 1 R"
> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem
>
>   ALSA Client information:
>
> 14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)  (DUPLEX) 
> [ctype 2, ptype 655362, cap 99]
> 16,0 - (CA0106, CA0106 MPU-401 (UART))  (DUPLEX) 
> [ctype 2, ptype 589826, cap 127]
> 28,0 - (CASIO USB-MIDI, CASIO USB-MIDI MIDI 1)  
> (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 589826, cap 127]
> 32,0 - (TR, TR MIDI 1)  (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 
> 589826, cap 127]
> 128,0 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 0) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 
> 2, cap 66]
> 128,1 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 1) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 
> 2, cap 66]
> 128,2 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 2) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 
> 2, cap 66]
> 128,3 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 3) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 
> 2, cap 66]
>
> AlsaDriver::setCurrentTimer((auto))
> Current timer set to "system timer" with timer checks
> AlsaDriver::initialiseMidi -  initialised MIDI subsystem
>
> AlsaDriver::setCurrentTimer((auto))
> Current timer set to "system timer" with timer checks
> Composition::getTrackById(0) - WARNING - track id not found, this is probably 
> a BUG src/base/Composition.cpp:1601
> Available track ids are: 
> AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,0)
> CREATED OUTPUT PORT 3:out 1 - unnamed for device 0
> Connecting my port 3 to 32:0 on reconnection
> AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "32:0 TR MIDI 1 (duplex)" 
> requested for device 0
> AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: exact match available
> Renamed 130:3 to Korg_TR
> AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,1)
> AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 1, action 1
> AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 1, action 0
> AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 1, action 1
> AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: port is 32:0
> AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice - successfully subscribed device 1 as record port
> AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "32:0 TR MIDI 1 (duplex)" 
> requested for device 1
> AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: exact match available
> WARNING: AlsaDriver::renameDevice: Cannot find device 1 in port map
> AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,0)
> CREATED OUTPUT PORT 4:out 2 - unnamed for device 2
> Connecting my port 4 to 28:0 on reconnection
> AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "28:0 CASIO USB-MIDI MIDI 
> 1 (duplex)" requested for device 2
> AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: exact match available
> Renamed 130:4 to General MIDI Synth
> AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,1)
> AlsaDriver::setRec