Re: [Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll
> -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 20:36:58 -0400 > From: "D. Michael McIntyre" > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll > To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <541f6f2a.3000...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > From a design perspective, we basically accepted that getting > Rosegarden usable on small screens would be very difficult, and there > was little reason to worry with it, because nobody with a small screen > had enough power to run Rosegarden anyway. > [snip] > > I've done some experimentation with Android, and you'd be hard pressed > to find a worse ecosystem for audio applications. The latencies are > impossibly bad. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre I've been up against this too and it's a horrible handicap but I have also found that MY small netbook (an asus eeepc) is also miserably short on CPU as well as RAM so that using Audacity and Rosegrarden together for example is totally impossible. No such problem on my HD g73 with i7 and 8gb. RESOLUTION is where it's at and I'll come back to this in a reply to the scrolling issue. This may not be good news but MY solution is a full-hd machine (regardless of size in-inches). There are several 12" models available now, I'm waiting for the prices to come down. As for the low res monitors suffering from this in a couple years you won't find any anywhere so I reluctantly must support your reluctance :-) -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll
From a design perspective, we basically accepted that getting Rosegarden usable on small screens would be very difficult, and there was little reason to worry with it, because nobody with a small screen had enough power to run Rosegarden anyway. These days, there is amazing power behind quite small screens, and all that old thinking is totally obsolete, null, and void. I have nearly as much power in my pocket as I do on my desktop today, and more RAM in my pocket. It's pretty ridiculous, really. I'm not opposed in principle to some new redesign or tweak campaign to address small screen issues, but in practice I just don't have time to do much with it myself. All in all, I'm not sure if it's worth the effort or not, since netbooks are a dying breed as everyone goes over to tablets. If I owned a tablet myself, I'd never bother installing Linux on it, and I'd just stick with Android. I've done some experimentation with Android, and you'd be hard pressed to find a worse ecosystem for audio applications. The latencies are impossibly bad. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:58:36 -0400 "Tom Breton (Tehom)" wrote: > > I am trying to use Rosegarden under Linux on a small netbook-type > > computer. The window title bar, menu bar, tool bar, tempo and chord > > rulers, lower status/zoom area, and my windowing system's "dock" all > > consume vertical space, leaving only about a third of the screen's > > vertical dimension for the "matrix" area of the matrix editor. > > Some of those can be turned off in the "View" menu, giving you more space. > > Sorry, no idea about auto-scroll. At first I thought you were talking > about the autoscroll that follows the playback - that's easily turned off > from the tool bar - but it appears you're talking about something else, > how the screen tries to recenter when you move to the edge. I don't know. > > Tom Breton (Tehom) This is something I have a problem with too, even on a full size display. Personally, I think autoscroll should only take place if you are attempting to drag the pointer right out of the work area. In any case, I would prefer the vertical one to be *much* slower that it currently is. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote: > from the tool bar - but it appears you're talking about something else, > how the screen tries to recenter when you move to the edge. I don't know. Indeed. The "edge" for the purposes of this feature appears to be a fixed size, regardless of the screen size; so on a small screen, an unreasonably large fraction of the screen area ends up being "edge" and not useful for any editing operations other than scrolling. -- Matthew Skala msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca People before principles. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/ -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll
> I am trying to use Rosegarden under Linux on a small netbook-type > computer. The window title bar, menu bar, tool bar, tempo and chord > rulers, lower status/zoom area, and my windowing system's "dock" all > consume vertical space, leaving only about a third of the screen's > vertical dimension for the "matrix" area of the matrix editor. Some of those can be turned off in the "View" menu, giving you more space. Sorry, no idea about auto-scroll. At first I thought you were talking about the autoscroll that follows the playback - that's easily turned off from the tool bar - but it appears you're talking about something else, how the screen tries to recenter when you move to the edge. I don't know. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll
Is there a configuration setting, or if not, is there any simple modification I can make to the source code, to disable auto-scroll? I'd particularly like to disable vertical auto-scroll in the matrix editor, but disabling all auto-scroll throughout Rosegarden would be okay, too. I am trying to use Rosegarden under Linux on a small netbook-type computer. The window title bar, menu bar, tool bar, tempo and chord rulers, lower status/zoom area, and my windowing system's "dock" all consume vertical space, leaving only about a third of the screen's vertical dimension for the "matrix" area of the matrix editor. Of that, clicking or dragging in roughly the top or bottom third will activate auto-scrolling. There is only a thin strip across the middle in which I can edit without triggering auto-scroll. To be able to reliably drag across a rectangular area of notes (for instance, to select an entire octave for a bar or two) without touching the invisible auto-scroll areas, I need an extra margin for positioning the cursor inside that thin strip, and then I have to zoom out far enough to fit the notes into the tiny remaining space. At that zoom level the notes become so small it's impossible to select and position them accurately. The penalty for touching the invisible autoscroll areas which cover more than half the editing area is that the view, more or less instantly (in what feels like about 1/10 of a second - much too fast to react) shifts to the extreme bass or treble, and if I want to see my notes again, I have to go hunting for them with the scroll bar. This happens to me on a significant fraction of all the editing operations I attempt. Part of the problem is that the regions which will activate auto-scroll are much too large (totalling more than half of the already-small vertical dimension of the matrix display area), and the speed of auto-scroll when it does activate is an order of magnitude too fast (nearly impossible NOT to hit the top or bottom of the piano keyboard within human reaction time, once it has triggered). However, I think I would find vertical auto-scroll annoying at any speed and with any size of active region. I want the vertical scroll position to *never* change unless I scroll by hand with the scroll bar. I would rather be forced to use the vertical zoom in the rare cases that I want to drag across a vertical distance greater than will fit in the display area at normal zoom levels. A similar argument could be made about horizontal auto-scroll, but that seems to be less of an issue in practice - possibly just because the active regions are a much smaller fraction of the display area in the horizontal case, and so easier to avoid. Horizontal scrolling also seems to be slower, easier to recover from, and more often something I actually want to do. Nearly all the times I find myself cursing Rosegarden it's over the vertical, not horizontal, auto-scroll in the matrix editor. It might also be nice to be able to turn off auto-scroll in the notation editor, but since I use the notation editor much less often than the matrix editor, that's a lower priority. So, although I looked in the preferences already with no success, is there in fact a box I can untick somewhere to turn off this behaviour? If not, are there some lines of code I can comment out? -- Matthew Skala msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca People before principles. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/ -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user