Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On 6/15/20 4:15 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On 6/14/20 11:06 PM, david wrote: with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? I read that and thought, "H. That sounds really useful!" Then I realized I was the one thinking about implementing the feature. Obviously, it never happened. Normalize rests had already been around at that point. That's why I wondered if selecting a set of notes and quantitizing them, then selecting a bunch of rests and normalizing them, would do the trick. I don't remember why I didn't get that done, but I probably hit some major roadblock. Not knowing how rests are stored internally (are they, or are they calculated on the fly?) , I suppose that could be really complex. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com "My password is the last 8 digits of π." ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On 6/14/20 11:06 PM, david wrote: with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? I read that and thought, "H. That sounds really useful!" Then I realized I was the one thinking about implementing the feature. Obviously, it never happened. Normalize rests had already been around at that point. I don't remember why I didn't get that done, but I probably hit some major roadblock. -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On 10/22/14 1:22 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: Thinking about a function to "absorb" rests. Find a rest, look back, find a note, hack the note to consume the empty space. Probably wants some kind of adjustable setting that defaults to eating rests 1/16 or shorter. This would probably have wide applications, and be pretty useful. Everybody has to clean up funky weird short rests in something somewhere. Plus it would probably fix all those times when Rosegarden votes the wrong way on some recurring rhythmic figure, and you end up with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? (Email packrat here) Email from 6 years ago. Whatever happened with this? Turned into normalize rests? -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com "My password is the last 8 digits of π." ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:35:35 -1000 david gn...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: On 10/27/2014 09:36 AM, Abrolag wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:22:16 -0400 D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com wrote: Made it to the weekend, made it through the weekend, didn't find time to look at that. Didn't find time to roll out the 14.10 release either. Thinking about a function to absorb rests. Find a rest, look back, find a note, hack the note to consume the empty space. Probably wants some kind of adjustable setting that defaults to eating rests 1/16 or shorter. This would probably have wide applications, and be pretty useful. Everybody has to clean up funky weird short rests in something somewhere. Plus it would probably fix all those times when Rosegarden votes the wrong way on some recurring rhythmic figure, and you end up with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? Bit slow responding -sorry. I don't use the notation editor much, probably only 2-3 times a year, but the 'nest of rests' has had me scratching me head a few times. On that basis I'd like to see it cured if at all possible. I use the notation editor all the time. I do wish there was some way to deal with those kinds of weird fractional rests (well, that's how they seem to me). I'd still want to SEE the rests, since they'd be there on a paper staff, but it would be nice if they were a bit more regular. Perhaps a variation of the quantization function? P.S. Just cos I don't post here often doesn't mean I'm not a keen Rosegardener :) I really *must* find a way to record Rosegarden driving two fully populated instances of Yoshimi - yep. 32 tracks all inside the machine :) What do you mean by 'record'? Record the desktop session, or just the sound? Whole desktop including sound. ... actually found out how to do this now RecordMydesktop has a bug that was making it see stupid screen sizes. Using the command line (and avoiding the buggy parameter) works. Now to find the time to actually make a sensible recording :) -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On 10/27/2014 09:36 AM, Abrolag wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:22:16 -0400 D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com wrote: Made it to the weekend, made it through the weekend, didn't find time to look at that. Didn't find time to roll out the 14.10 release either. Thinking about a function to absorb rests. Find a rest, look back, find a note, hack the note to consume the empty space. Probably wants some kind of adjustable setting that defaults to eating rests 1/16 or shorter. This would probably have wide applications, and be pretty useful. Everybody has to clean up funky weird short rests in something somewhere. Plus it would probably fix all those times when Rosegarden votes the wrong way on some recurring rhythmic figure, and you end up with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? Bit slow responding -sorry. I don't use the notation editor much, probably only 2-3 times a year, but the 'nest of rests' has had me scratching me head a few times. On that basis I'd like to see it cured if at all possible. I use the notation editor all the time. I do wish there was some way to deal with those kinds of weird fractional rests (well, that's how they seem to me). I'd still want to SEE the rests, since they'd be there on a paper staff, but it would be nice if they were a bit more regular. Perhaps a variation of the quantization function? P.S. Just cos I don't post here often doesn't mean I'm not a keen Rosegardener :) I really *must* find a way to record Rosegarden driving two fully populated instances of Yoshimi - yep. 32 tracks all inside the machine :) What do you mean by 'record'? Record the desktop session, or just the sound? -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:22:16 -0400 From: D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests? To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 54479368.5000...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Made it to the weekend, made it through the weekend, didn't find time to look at that. Didn't find time to roll out the 14.10 release either. Thinking about a function to absorb rests. Find a rest, look back, find a note, hack the note to consume the empty space. Probably wants some kind of adjustable setting that defaults to eating rests 1/16 or shorter. This would probably have wide applications, and be pretty useful. Everybody has to clean up funky weird short rests in something somewhere. Plus it would probably fix all those times when Rosegarden votes the wrong way on some recurring rhythmic figure, and you end up with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Can you not just filter what 'gets viewed' according to rest duration without modifying what there is? Just a wild guess that it might be less involved, something like 'if 1/x then foreground=background' my 2 and thanks for trying regardless! -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On 10/28/2014 08:43 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: Can you not just filter what 'gets viewed' according to rest duration without modifying what there is? Just a wild guess that it might be less involved, something like 'if 1/x then foreground=background' No, that actually sounds 5,000 times harder. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:22:16 -0400 D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com wrote: Made it to the weekend, made it through the weekend, didn't find time to look at that. Didn't find time to roll out the 14.10 release either. Thinking about a function to absorb rests. Find a rest, look back, find a note, hack the note to consume the empty space. Probably wants some kind of adjustable setting that defaults to eating rests 1/16 or shorter. This would probably have wide applications, and be pretty useful. Everybody has to clean up funky weird short rests in something somewhere. Plus it would probably fix all those times when Rosegarden votes the wrong way on some recurring rhythmic figure, and you end up with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? Bit slow responding -sorry. I don't use the notation editor much, probably only 2-3 times a year, but the 'nest of rests' has had me scratching me head a few times. On that basis I'd like to see it cured if at all possible. P.S. Just cos I don't post here often doesn't mean I'm not a keen Rosegardener :) I really *must* find a way to record Rosegarden driving two fully populated instances of Yoshimi - yep. 32 tracks all inside the machine :) -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
Made it to the weekend, made it through the weekend, didn't find time to look at that. Didn't find time to roll out the 14.10 release either. Thinking about a function to absorb rests. Find a rest, look back, find a note, hack the note to consume the empty space. Probably wants some kind of adjustable setting that defaults to eating rests 1/16 or shorter. This would probably have wide applications, and be pretty useful. Everybody has to clean up funky weird short rests in something somewhere. Plus it would probably fix all those times when Rosegarden votes the wrong way on some recurring rhythmic figure, and you end up with weird doubled dots and crazy rests instead of something tidy and legible. Ideas on this? -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
On 10/16/2014 10:05 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: Thanks, here's a temporarily uploaded work-in-progress (_sheets_ is what I'm working in-this-case) http://trixtar.org/3/music/images/sOs-p1of4.png I'll grab it in a day or two and have a look. I can probably think of a hack to make your life easier. Necessity is the mother of invention. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 20:22:54 -0400 From: D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests? To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 541f6bde.4000...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed On 09/21/2014 06:01 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: I have a 7 minute piece with many very short rests between the notes and I can't find a way to get the notation editor to show rests only above a given size (like 1/4) or not at all. IS there such an option? There is not, and such an option is unlikely. Rosegarden fills empty spaces with rests automatically. Where there are rests, there are empty spaces. Lots of annoying short rests come up frequently when working with human performances, and the usual thing to do is clean up the notation to close up the gaps. Done properly, this has no effect on performance. I suppose there's a certain art to it, and I'm usually pretty good at doing this. Let me see what you're working on, and I'll see what you're up against. Sometimes this is easy, sometimes it's monumentally tedious, and there isn't much middle ground between the two extremes. -- D. Michael McIntyre Thanks, here's a temporarily uploaded work-in-progress (_sheets_ is what I'm working in-this-case) http://trixtar.org/3/music/images/sOs-p1of4.png don't try to follow it, it actually begins on page-2 of 4. To make these I only 'start' with the editing page screen capture. I do exactly what you do when the luxury avails but seldom keep rests less than 1/4. This bugger in particular is soon going from 7 minutes and 4 pages to 10 minutes and 5 pages so I'm desperateley 'crunching' (remember what that used to mean in programming?). Since the stage of (guitar) learning I aim to assist is very far from the concept of rests altogether (aka white-knuckle death-grip) I can shamelessly just remove ALL rests IF the app helps me with it when required. A simple [if rest then don't show in editor] option would help a lot, stricytly a show/view feature. If it's too involved or if nobody else wants it then forget it :-) -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Staff show/not-show rests?
I have a 7 minute piece with many very short rests between the notes and I can't find a way to get the notation editor to show rests only above a given size (like 1/4) or not at all. IS there such an option? Thanks -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
