Re: [rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-11 Thread Scott Taylor


On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:54 PM, David Chelimsky wrote:

> On 9/11/07, Geoffrey Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 9/9/07, Priit Tamboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I wonder does anybody planning to go beyond the default html
>> formatter/report?
>>>
>>
>> Two things on that subject came up today, during some RSpec work.   
>> It would
>> be nice if:
>>
>> The report contained pending messages, when specified, e.g.:
>>> describe "Secure passwords with MD5" do
>>
>>> pending "Waiting on selection of an MD5 library."
>>
>>> end
>>>
>> The HTML report contains 'Secure passwords with MD5' as pending,  
>> but does
>> not add the explanation as to why.
>> It would be nice to be able to use DHTML expansion to see the  
>> source of the
>> spec, sometimes; when we're doing walkthroughs with the customer
>> representative, it's useful for him to be able to see the source  
>> as well as
>> the descriptions.   - Geoffrey
>
> These are great suggestions. Please, please, please put these in
> feature requests where they are guaranteed to stay on the radar and
> not on this list where they are guaranteed to get lost in the shuffle.

Good idea.  I'll do this for my feature now.

Scott
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Re: [rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
On 9/11/07, David Chelimsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9/11/07, Geoffrey Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 9/9/07, Priit Tamboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I wonder does anybody planning to go beyond the default html
> > formatter/report?
> > >
> >
> > Two things on that subject came up today, during some RSpec work.  It
> would
> > be nice if:
> >
> > The report contained pending messages, when specified, e.g.:
> > > describe "Secure passwords with MD5" do
> >
> > > pending "Waiting on selection of an MD5 library."
> >
> > > end
> > >
> > The HTML report contains 'Secure passwords with MD5' as pending, but
> does
> > not add the explanation as to why.
> > It would be nice to be able to use DHTML expansion to see the source of
> the
> > spec, sometimes; when we're doing walkthroughs with the customer
> > representative, it's useful for him to be able to see the source as well
> as
> > the descriptions.   - Geoffrey
>
> These are great suggestions. Please, please, please put these in
> feature requests where they are guaranteed to stay on the radar and
> not on this list where they are guaranteed to get lost in the shuffle.
>

Sure; just wasn't sure if the people volunteering to look at the report were
likely to use the tracker, but ... I guess as long as they appear in the
tracker, that's the main thing, and then regardless of who implements them
and when, it's captured.
-- 
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Re: [rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-11 Thread David Chelimsky
On 9/11/07, Geoffrey Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/9/07, Priit Tamboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wonder does anybody planning to go beyond the default html
> formatter/report?
> >
>
> Two things on that subject came up today, during some RSpec work.  It would
> be nice if:
>
> The report contained pending messages, when specified, e.g.:
> > describe "Secure passwords with MD5" do
>
> > pending "Waiting on selection of an MD5 library."
>
> > end
> >
> The HTML report contains 'Secure passwords with MD5' as pending, but does
> not add the explanation as to why.
> It would be nice to be able to use DHTML expansion to see the source of the
> spec, sometimes; when we're doing walkthroughs with the customer
> representative, it's useful for him to be able to see the source as well as
> the descriptions.   - Geoffrey

These are great suggestions. Please, please, please put these in
feature requests where they are guaranteed to stay on the radar and
not on this list where they are guaranteed to get lost in the shuffle.

Cheers,
David

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Re: [rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
On 9/9/07, Priit Tamboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wonder does anybody planning to go beyond the default html
> formatter/report?
>

Two things on that subject came up today, during some RSpec work.  It would
be nice if:

   1. The report contained pending messages, when specified, e.g.:

>describe "Secure passwords with MD5" do


   pending "Waiting on selection of an MD5 library."


   end
>
   The HTML report contains 'Secure passwords with MD5' as pending, but
   does not add the explanation as to why.
   2. It would be nice to be able to use DHTML expansion to see the
   source of the spec, sometimes; when we're doing walkthroughs with the
   customer representative, it's useful for him to be able to see the source as
   well as the descriptions.

  - Geoffrey
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Re: [rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-11 Thread Priit Tamboom
> > This sounds like a fantastic idea. Why don't you give it a shot?

Thanks for feedback, I'll take more active role and perhaps able to
produce some useful stuff as well :-)

>
> Yeah - I'm already handing the HTML report off to my boss.   He was
> amazed at it!
>
> I agree - this sort of thing would be really nice.  Honestly, I was
> thinking it would be really nice to have some sort of diff'er for the
> HTML report - so that my boss could see what has been newly
> implemented between different commits.
>
> My best low tech solution was to generate the text specdoc, and diff
> it in trac.  I would help you out with this tool (or set of tools) if
> they seem intriguing to you.
>
> Scott

Very good idea indeed.

Are you hanging out at rspec irc (my name is priidu there). I have
more time at weekends, so we can discuss about ideas/details more
quickly.

Priit
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Re: [rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-10 Thread Scott Taylor

On Sep 9, 2007, at 4:15 PM, aslak hellesoy wrote:

> On 9/9/07, Priit Tamboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I wonder does anybody planning to go beyond the default html  
>> formatter/report?
>>
>> The current html report is nice and green but what about to go a
>> little silly and enable also user input. For example to let customer
>> to add a new pending spec, comments etc. I feel it might be mentally
>> easier for some customers to jump into spec world when it is possible
>> to give input at "the same place".
>>
>> Integrate to trac or very lightweight standalone stuff. However it
>> should not be trac reinventing effort.
>>
>> I haven't use rspec with customer yet but planning to do so with next
>> project, so I might overreact about this matter right now.
>>
>
> This sounds like a fantastic idea. Why don't you give it a shot?

Yeah - I'm already handing the HTML report off to my boss.   He was  
amazed at it!

I agree - this sort of thing would be really nice.  Honestly, I was  
thinking it would be really nice to have some sort of diff'er for the  
HTML report - so that my boss could see what has been newly  
implemented between different commits.

My best low tech solution was to generate the text specdoc, and diff  
it in trac.  I would help you out with this tool (or set of tools) if  
they seem intriguing to you.

Scott

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Re: [rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-09 Thread aslak hellesoy
On 9/9/07, Priit Tamboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I wonder does anybody planning to go beyond the default html formatter/report?
>
> The current html report is nice and green but what about to go a
> little silly and enable also user input. For example to let customer
> to add a new pending spec, comments etc. I feel it might be mentally
> easier for some customers to jump into spec world when it is possible
> to give input at "the same place".
>
> Integrate to trac or very lightweight standalone stuff. However it
> should not be trac reinventing effort.
>
> I haven't use rspec with customer yet but planning to do so with next
> project, so I might overreact about this matter right now.
>

This sounds like a fantastic idea. Why don't you give it a shot?

Aslak


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[rspec-users] Going beyond the default html formatter/report?

2007-09-09 Thread Priit Tamboom
Hi!

I wonder does anybody planning to go beyond the default html formatter/report?

The current html report is nice and green but what about to go a
little silly and enable also user input. For example to let customer
to add a new pending spec, comments etc. I feel it might be mentally
easier for some customers to jump into spec world when it is possible
to give input at "the same place".

Integrate to trac or very lightweight standalone stuff. However it
should not be trac reinventing effort.

I haven't use rspec with customer yet but planning to do so with next
project, so I might overreact about this matter right now.

Priit
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