Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Roy El-Hames

Hi;

We use one instance for 40 or so departments across 5 different sites in 
2 countries ..based on queue/s per department

Worked well for the past 4 years.
With the right permissions , the look and feel as if it were different 
instances.with the added bonus tickets can be shipped between different 
queues and the maintenance is simpler.
Creating new queues, queue cf's, watchers and users are managed by the 
sysadmins in the different sites, scrips are created and managed 
centrally by me and my team.


Regards;
Roy

james machado wrote:

Hi All,

My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in my
I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've put
feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit from RT to
see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  I am finely
getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some guidance on
deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share an instance of
RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT for each department.
Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it look like the traffic
volume will be an issue.  These are all internally created tickets with no
Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet access were required then a
separate instance of RT would be desirable.

So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding
on 1 or more instances of RT and why.

Thanks,

James

  



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[rt-users] assigning ticket to another owner

2008-01-10 Thread Tom H
Hi

I would like to assign a ticket to another Owner/user, but only myself
and Nobody appear in the owner drop down list, and there are quite a
few others in the group that have permissions on this queue. Am I
missing a permission here?

Thanks,

T.
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Re: [rt-users] So confused on group and user rights?

2008-01-10 Thread Drew Barnes
They can't see the queue in the list because they don't have SeeQueue 
rights.


Jake Conk wrote:

Hello,

So I'm struggling trying to figure out user and group permissions. I
was told that all users need the right Let this user be granted
rights so that they can create tickets but when I give a user that
permission then they no longer have the link New ticket.

I activated Create Ticket, Reply To Ticket, Show Ticket, and Show
Ticket Comments on ALL groups and roles as an act of desperation for
trying to figure this out and still cannot create a ticket with this
user.

I then revoked Let this user be granted rights and the New Ticket
link was there again and I was able to create a ticket but next to the
Queue field its just () even though I have a queue created. I hit
Create ticket and the ticket was created under my only queue but why
doesn't my Queues show up properly for create a ticket and why cant I
create a ticket with this user when give the right Let this user be
granted rights?

Also my custom fields for do not show up to the ticket page even
though I select Ticket under Applies to.

Can someone give me a simple guide on the basic work flow when using
this system to create a user who simply creates tickets?

Thanks,
- Jake
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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Todd Chapman
I have had to think about this a lot. Maintaining one RT with customizations
for lots of different groups can be challenging. Maintaining multiple RT
instances and trying to keep some customizations in sync across those
instances can also be a bit of a pain.

So what it comes down to for me is risk. I can't have my externally facing
customer service queues being screwed up by customization for my internal
queues. So for me customer service gets its own instance and everyone else
gets another instance.

-Todd

On 1/9/08, james machado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in
 my I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've
 put feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit from RT
 to see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  I am finely
 getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some guidance on
 deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share an instance of
 RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT for each department.
 Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it look like the traffic
 volume will be an issue.  These are all internally created tickets with no
 Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet access were required then a
 separate instance of RT would be desirable.

 So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
 thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding
 on 1 or more instances of RT and why.

 Thanks,

 James

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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Bob Goldstein
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I have had to think about this a lot. Maintaining one RT with customizations
for lots of different groups can be challenging. Maintaining multiple RT
instances and trying to keep some customizations in sync across those
instances can also be a bit of a pain.

So what it comes down to for me is risk. I can't have my externally facing
customer service queues being screwed up by customization for my internal
queues. So for me customer service gets its own instance and everyone else
gets another instance.


 Interesting.  For code customizations, I have my paths set up
 so that a given instance gets a base part (governing the core RT version),
 a common part for all instances (of that RT version) where I put _vendor
 files, and a per-instance part.  Any customization I want to apply
 to all instances is easy, and I can still have per-instance differences.

 Of course, if you mean customizations in the RT config file or in
 the database, this doesn't help.

   bobg


-Todd

On 1/9/08, james machado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in
 my I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've
 put feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit from RT
 to see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  I am finely
 getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some guidance on
 deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share an instance of
 RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT for each department.
 Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it look like the traffic
 volume will be an issue.  These are all internally created tickets with no
 Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet access were required then a
 separate instance of RT would be desirable.

 So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or
 thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when deciding
 on 1 or more instances of RT and why.

 Thanks,

 James

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[rt-users] changing the titlebar_commands (reply/comment...)

2008-01-10 Thread The Anarcat
Hi,

[RT 3.6.3 on FreeBSD 6.2 perl 5.8.8]

I had what seemed to me a simple problem to solve in RT. We regularly
receive spam and sometimes well, some gets through. I need to followup
on those spam and make sure those guys get beaten on the head properly.

For this I need the original email.

I figured the best way to get that was through the
Ticket/ShowEmailRecord.html link. Indeed, i could *guess* the proper
attachment and find the original message in those. But the link just
wasn't there.

So I hacked it in. This required patching the
ShowTransaction/ModifyDisplay callback so that it allows modification of
the titlebar:

--- ShowTransaction.origThu Jan 10 02:38:41 2008
+++ ShowTransaction Thu Jan 10 02:39:02 2008
@@ -52,7 +52,7 @@
 /td
 td class=date% $transdate|n %/td
 % my $desc = $Transaction-BriefDescription;
-% $m-comp('/Elements/Callback', _CallbackName = 'ModifyDisplay', text = 
\$desc, Transaction = $Transaction, %ARGS);
+% $m-comp('/Elements/Callback', _CallbackName = 'ModifyDisplay', text = 
\$desc, titlebar_commands = \$titlebar_commands, Transaction = $Transaction, 
%ARGS);
 td class=description
   %$Transaction-CreatorObj-Name% - %$TicketString% %$desc%
 /td

I then added the following callback in 
Callbacks/Koumbit/Ticket/Elements/ShowTransaction/ModifyDisplay:

%init
if ( $Transaction-Type =~ /Create$/ ) {
$$titlebar_commands .=
nbsp;[a target=\_blank\ href=\$EmailRecordPath?id=
  . $Transaction-Ticket
  . Transaction=
  . $Transaction-Id
  . Attachment=
  . ($Transaction-Attachments-First
   $Transaction-Attachments-First-Id )
  . '' . loc('Show') . /a]nbsp;;
}
/%init
%args
$text = undef;
$Transaction = undef;
$titlebar_commands = undef;
$EmailRecordPath = $RT::WebPath./Ticket/ShowEmailRecord.html
/%args

Now, my question is:

 1) is this the proper way?
 2) Why doesn't the show link give me the complete email on multipart
 messages?

2) is my main point here of course, since the first one is mostly
academic. Basically, my problem remains. As soon as the ticket was
created from a multipart message, I still can't get the full picture.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

-- 
Antoine Beaupré
Réseau Koumbit Networks
+1.514.387.6262


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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread Kenneth Crocker

To all,


	I work in the IT division and we only have one instance and it is used 
primarily for keeping track of requests for maintenance, custom work, 
etc. for our many (over 50 queues) software applications. I have 
developed an approval (ticket review and prioritization) and QA 
(Acceptance testing) workflow set of scrips and templates and it works 
great. However, there are so many other areas here where RT could be 
helpful. Being in Tech Services and the Sys Admin of our only version of 
RT, do I keep it to myself or spread the joy? From that perspective, I 
have to agree with Bob Goldstein. It really depends on the priorities of 
your department. Does the company have other departments where someone 
would be capable of administrating another instance of RT? Are there any 
chances that tickets from one instance might want/need to be transferred 
to another? What kind of differences/customizations would be needed 
between instances? I suggest doing an analysis of those subjects and any 
others you might come up with and prioritize their values and decide 
from there. I'm going with the one instance. That way, I can control 
what customizations are made to our one instance. If I ever get a 
department that has radically different needs and requirements, then I 
might want a different instance. For me, redundancy is usually a 
maintenance nightmare and I don't like designing or creating unnecessary 
work. But hey, that's me. Good luck!


Kenn
LBNL

On 1/9/2008 3:53 PM, james machado wrote:

Hi All,

My question is both hypothetical and practical.  I've got RT deployed in 
my I.T. department doing what it does best and it's working well.  I've 
put feelers out to some other departments that I think could benefit 
from RT to see if they would be interested in having it setup for them.  
I am finely getting some positive responses so I'm looking for some 
guidance on deployment options.  I am trying to decide if I should share 
an instance of RT among 1+ departments or create a new instance of RT 
for each department.  Hardware is not an issue either way, nor does it 
look like the traffic volume will be an issue.  These are all internally 
created tickets with no Internet access to my RT instance.  If Internet 
access were required then a separate instance of RT would be desirable.


So what I am looking for from people who have either had this issue or 
thought about it is: what factors you would take into account when 
deciding on 1 or more instances of RT and why.


Thanks,

James




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[rt-users] Wiki parsing best practices

2008-01-10 Thread The Anarcat
I've seen few things about changing the parser that RT uses to display
the correspondance. I now know how to perform little hacks in the
ShowMessageStanza callback.

Instead of rewriting a full parser for myself, I figured I could use an
existing. Since we're using Wiki extensively, I figured an existing wiki
parser would be interesting...

I've found a few Perl wiki parser, mainly for existing wikis, but also
standalone:

http://search.cpan.org/~cdent/PurpleWiki-0.94/PurpleWiki/Parser/WikiText.pm
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Text-WikiFormat/
http://search.cpan.org/~dom/Wiki-Toolkit-Formatter-UseMod-0.20/

This is not a complete list.

What I'm looking for here is advice on how to handle such a problem. Has
anyone here modified RT other than with the simple callback documented
in ClickableLinks in the wiki?

I've tried PurpleWiki, but it seems to depend on the PurpleWiki install
and doesn't talk well with RT. I've also tried the Wiki::Toolkit
package, but CPAN tests failed so I couldn't actually test it.

Text::WikiFormat is not exactly the format I'm looking for...

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

-- 
Modern man has a kind of poverty of the spirit which stands
in great contrast to his remarkable scientific and technological
achievements. We've learned to walk in outer space and yet we
haven't learned to walk to earth as brothers and sisters.
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Re: [rt-users] What criteria do you use when deciding the number of instances of RT?

2008-01-10 Thread The Anarcat
Here at Koumbit.org we've setup an extra RT instance for a fellow
organisation/partner that needed the resources. It's a seperate
instance because I didn't feel confortable giving them user access to
our RT.

I would never consider deploying *another* RT for ourselves, too much
trouble. Seems to me Queues and Groups can do all I need.

Now of course if you need nifty customizations like graphical
modifications or really particular behaviour, you might need seperate
instances, but in my experience, it's too much trouble.

A.

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Computer science is no more about computers
than astronomy is about telescopes
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[rt-users] Ticket History

2008-01-10 Thread Candelario, Bill
I migrated from 3.0.12 to 3.6.4, using select and insert statements in a
MySQL utility. I was able to login in and view tickets but it doesn't
show its history.  Does anyone know if there is another step?
 
Thanks,
Bill
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[rt-users] How can I change the default Owner for a new Reminder to the CurrentUser?

2008-01-10 Thread Dan O'Neill
In the Reminders block of a displayed ticket, for a New Reminder I'd 
like the default select for Owner to be the name of the CurrentUser 
rather than [ - ].


Generally our users want to set reminders for themselves and it saves a 
data entry step if the selected Owner defaults the the logged in user.


I believe the change has to be made to the file
/share/html/Ticket/Elements/Reminders

A code snipped to do this would be appreciated.

Thanks,

dano

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Re: [rt-users] assigning ticket to another owner

2008-01-10 Thread Kenneth Crocker

Tom,


	It really depends on what rights you have given the group. The 
following is what I do:


Configuration-Global-Group Rights:
  System Groups; Everyone - None
 Privileged -   CreateSavedSearch
EditSavedSearch
LoadSavedSearch
ModifySelf
ShowSavedSearch
 Unprivileged - None
  Roles; Owners -   ModifyTicket
 Requestors -   ReplyToTicket
SeeQueue
ShowTicket
 CC -   ReplyToTicket
SeeQueue
ShowTicket
Watch
 AdminCc -  AdminGroupMembership
AssignCustomFields
DelegateRights
ModifyOwnMembership
SeeGroup
ShowConfigTab
ShowScrips
ShowTemplate
WatchAsAdminCc

Configuration-Queues-(select queue)-Group Rights:
  System Groups; Everyone - None
 Privileged -   CreateTicket
ReplyToTicket
SeeQueue
 Unprivileged - None
  Roles; Owner -None
 Requestor -ShowOutgoingEmail
 CC -   None
 AdminCc -  DeleteTicket
ModifyACL
ModifyQueueWatchers
ModifyScrips
ModifyTemplate
ModifyTicket
ShowACL
ShowScrips
ShowTemplate
StealTicket

  User Defined Groups;
support group - CommentOnTicket
OwnTicket
ReplyToTicket
ShowOutgoingEmail
ShowTicketComments
TakeTicket
Watch

	What this does is allow any privileged user in the system to create a 
ticket in my queue (ShowTicket,SeeQueue) and reply to any correspondence 
for that ticket. It allows anyone in my technical support group to Own a 
ticket (OwnTicket,TakeTicket), comment on any ticket in the queue but 
only modify tickets they own (global right). The AdminCc (me) is also a 
member of the support group so I can do anything that group can do PLUS, 
only I can Steal a ticket and see the COnfig tab so I can manage the queue.
	Obviously, everyone manages their RT differently, but this is how we 
manage tickets. Minimum rights to the users (the ones asking for tech 
support), modify (especially comments) rights for tech support users, 
and almost everything else (except superuser which is reserved for the 
SYSTEM ADmin) for a queue Admin user. I hope this helps.


Kenn
LBNL

On 1/10/2008 3:37 AM, Tom H wrote:

Hi

I would like to assign a ticket to another Owner/user, but only myself
and Nobody appear in the owner drop down list, and there are quite a
few others in the group that have permissions on this queue. Am I
missing a permission here?

Thanks,

T.
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Re: [rt-users] A few beginner work flow questions and suggestions

2008-01-10 Thread Jake Conk
Thanks Jan for your help. After messing around with this system for a
few days and not being able to figure it out I don't think its right
for me. This is way too overly complex just for a ticket management
system in my opinion and I'm moving to something more simple. I found
something called OTRS and everything seems to work in it the way I
would expect so I think I'm going to use that.

Thanks anyways, its much appreciated :)

- Jake

On Jan 10, 2008 12:55 AM, Jan Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Jake Conk wrote:

  What permissions do I need to give the unprivleged user to be able to
  see his own tickets that he created along with any replies? I do not
  want other users to be able to see each others tickets, only the
  admins (super users) can do that.

 There are a bunch of special groups (Roles) which are evaluated on a
 ticket-by-ticket basis. Requestor is one of those. Assign the
 appropriate rights to that role group.

 Cheers,
 jan

 PS. If you have a few spare quid, the essentials book is worhtwhile
 picking up.

 --
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 Tel +44 (0)117 3317661   http://ioctl.org/jan/
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Re: [rt-users] So confused on group and user rights?

2008-01-10 Thread Jake Conk
Benjamin,

Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling confused about rights in
RT :) After a little fiddling around I notice I wasn't seeing my own
tickets created because an admin had to go and assign the person who
wrote the ticket as the owner of the ticket then they appeared in my
unprivileged user's home page.

I'm not exactly agreeing with the way this system works now. By
default if I create a ticket then I should be able to see all the
tickets I created in my home page under My open tickets, to me that
makes perfect logical sense. I think I've wasted too many work days on
trying to figure out this ticket system and it doesn't work the way I
thought ticket systems should work. It could be that I'm too dumb to
figure this out but I hope thats not the case lol.

I just tried OTRS (http://www.otrs.org) and I was able to get that up
and configured the way I need to in about 15 minutes! The clients see
what they need to see and the admins see what they need to see! It
makes perfect sense and just works.

Maybe I'll come back to RT another day but thanks for your help guys,
I really appreciate you guys trying to help me get RT configured the
way I need it but I guess RT is just not for me.

Thanks,
- Jake

On Jan 10, 2008 6:16 AM, Benjamin Weser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But it sounds like a bug to me that he's able to create a ticket
 although he doesn't see a queue. What if there is more than one queue?
 Where will the ticket be created? I thought SeeQueue is mandatory to
 create Tickets using the web interface of RT.

 Sometimes I feel like Jake: confused about the rights in RT ;)


 Drew Barnes wrote:
  They can't see the queue in the list because they don't have SeeQueue
  rights.
 
  Jake Conk wrote:
  Hello,
 
  So I'm struggling trying to figure out user and group permissions. I
  was told that all users need the right Let this user be granted
  rights so that they can create tickets but when I give a user that
  permission then they no longer have the link New ticket.
 
  I activated Create Ticket, Reply To Ticket, Show Ticket, and Show
  Ticket Comments on ALL groups and roles as an act of desperation for
  trying to figure this out and still cannot create a ticket with this
  user.
 
  I then revoked Let this user be granted rights and the New Ticket
  link was there again and I was able to create a ticket but next to the
  Queue field its just () even though I have a queue created. I hit
  Create ticket and the ticket was created under my only queue but why
  doesn't my Queues show up properly for create a ticket and why cant I
  create a ticket with this user when give the right Let this user be
  granted rights?
 
  Also my custom fields for do not show up to the ticket page even
  though I select Ticket under Applies to.
 
  Can someone give me a simple guide on the basic work flow when using
  this system to create a user who simply creates tickets?
 
  Thanks,
  - Jake
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[rt-users] Can't locate object method seek via package

2008-01-10 Thread tjzsm1
Dear members,

RT was running fine on a RH linux box until I found the new tickets were not 
delivered to the RT db via email. I turn on the log in side .procmailrc and 
below is the error message in the .procmail.log.

Any idea?

The RT server which handled your email did not behave as expected. It
said:
Can't locate object method seek via package File::Temp at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/MIME/Parser.pm line 816, GEN26 line 50.

Stack:
  [/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/MIME/Parser.pm:816]
  [/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/MIME/Parser.pm:1083]
  [/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/MIME/Parser.pm:1177]
  [/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/MIME/Parser.pm:1150]
  [/opt/rt3/lib/RT/EmailParser.pm:231]
  [/opt/rt3/lib/RT/EmailParser.pm:179]
  [/opt/rt3/lib/RT/EmailParser.pm:139]
  [/opt/rt3/lib/RT/Interface/Email.pm:549]
  [/opt/rt3/share/html/REST/1.0/NoAuth/mail-gateway:61]


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[rt-users] Exporting request contents

2008-01-10 Thread Prasad Deshpande
Hi,

We are using RT 3.2.3 on Red Hat 9. We would like export the existing
data in a text or excel file. To do this, we have tried using the Query
builder. We are able to export the data but we could not find the field
to export ticket history ( ie. communication captured during the life
cycle of the ticket).

If somebody knows how to capture the ticket history then please let me
know.

Thanks in Advance

Regards,
Regards,
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[rt-users] Remove rt user

2008-01-10 Thread alex

Hi,
how is possible from script, line command or perl to remove a Rt user ?
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Re: [rt-users] Remove rt user

2008-01-10 Thread Benjamin Weser
Get the Shredder at http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/Extensions. This 
will work just fine.


alex schrieb:

Hi,
how is possible from script, line command or perl to remove a Rt user ?
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