RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
Please donut be firing our coaches this close to the season! ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Ricky Mac wrote: I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :) __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
You mention that first down, when in fact there were about 7 plays for a total of less than 10 yards that would have sealed that game. While the 4th and 19 play hurts, blaming the loss on that one play isn't logical. Neither is blaming the 4th and 19 on Kines. Heck, time and time again throughout last season we saw how inefficient the LB's were in pass coverage. That being said, there are aspects of Kines philosophy that I don't agree with. For instance, with the DL playing an *Inside to Outside* scheme I find it very difficult to believe we'll be able to maintain a consistant pass rush with the athletes we have on campus now. The loss of Corn and BD hurt tremendously. Couple that with Antwan playing his way out of the draft (at least attempting to), the loss of 3 pass rushers from the year before, injury numbers that rival the plagues of Egypt we should have considered ourselves lucky to even be in the game with UT...much less take it to 5 OT's. T --- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts be known, the fucking 4th and 19 should have never happened. The Tide offense should have salted the game away in regulation when they had it 1st down and 3 yards to go to make a first. They make that 1st, ballgame's over! Basically the same could be said about the Arky game, the Tide fumbled and bumbled away a 21 point lead by NOT moving the chains when the game was on the line. I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :) 9 weeks and 5 days till KICKOFF!! ROLL TIDE ROLL Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:07 PM To: M Laborde; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well. Look at it on the bright side. Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play?? LOL That might help your feelings a little. It does mine. RTR September is just around the cornertwo months wooho!!! Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and 19... 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the rest of my life. And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival. What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened, it was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned repeatedly since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net _ TideFans.com: FREE for the BamaNation FREE Registration on TideFans.com: - FREE Email Address: http://freemail.TideFans.com FREE WebSpace: http://signup.TideFans.com FREE Alabama Newsletter: http://TideFans.com/ALWKLY FREE Message Boards: http://TideFans.com/boards/signup.htm Visit TideFans.com for daily updates on football, recruiting, basketball, baseball, and to share your thoughts in our message boards and chatrooms. Database of all Bama games ever played and more! Best of all...EVERYTHING'S FREE! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
TP, your excuse making rivals that of any barner I've ever read. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? The loss of Corn and BD hurt tremendously. Couple that with Antwan playing his way out of the draft (at least attempting to), the loss of 3 pass rushers from the year before, injury numbers that rival the plagues of Egypt we should have considered ourselves lucky to even be in the game with UT...much less take it to 5 OT's. T __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
Hmmm I have to admit that those are legitimate mitigating circumstances. Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? You mention that first down, when in fact there were about 7 plays for a total of less than 10 yards that would have sealed that game. While the 4th and 19 play hurts, blaming the loss on that one play isn't logical. Neither is blaming the 4th and 19 on Kines. Heck, time and time again throughout last season we saw how inefficient the LB's were in pass coverage. That being said, there are aspects of Kines philosophy that I don't agree with. For instance, with the DL playing an *Inside to Outside* scheme I find it very difficult to believe we'll be able to maintain a consistant pass rush with the athletes we have on campus now. The loss of Corn and BD hurt tremendously. Couple that with Antwan playing his way out of the draft (at least attempting to), the loss of 3 pass rushers from the year before, injury numbers that rival the plagues of Egypt we should have considered ourselves lucky to even be in the game with UT...much less take it to 5 OT's. T --- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts be known, the fucking 4th and 19 should have never happened. The Tide offense should have salted the game away in regulation when they had it 1st down and 3 yards to go to make a first. They make that 1st, ballgame's over! Basically the same could be said about the Arky game, the Tide fumbled and bumbled away a 21 point lead by NOT moving the chains when the game was on the line. I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :) 9 weeks and 5 days till KICKOFF!! ROLL TIDE ROLL Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:07 PM To: M Laborde; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well. Look at it on the bright side. Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play?? LOL That might help your feelings a little. It does mine. RTR September is just around the cornertwo months wooho!!! Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and 19... 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the rest of my life. And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival. What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened, it was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned repeatedly since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net _ TideFans.com: FREE for the BamaNation FREE Registration on TideFans.com: - FREE Email Address: http://freemail.TideFans.com FREE WebSpace: http://signup.TideFans.com FREE Alabama Newsletter: http://TideFans.com/ALWKLY FREE Message Boards: http://TideFans.com/boards/signup.htm Visit TideFans.com for daily updates on football, recruiting, basketball, baseball, and to share your thoughts in our message boards and chatrooms. Database of all Bama games ever played and more
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
MOO! - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? Hmmm I have to admit that those are legitimate mitigating circumstances. Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? You mention that first down, when in fact there were about 7 plays for a total of less than 10 yards that would have sealed that game. While the 4th and 19 play hurts, blaming the loss on that one play isn't logical. Neither is blaming the 4th and 19 on Kines. Heck, time and time again throughout last season we saw how inefficient the LB's were in pass coverage. That being said, there are aspects of Kines philosophy that I don't agree with. For instance, with the DL playing an *Inside to Outside* scheme I find it very difficult to believe we'll be able to maintain a consistant pass rush with the athletes we have on campus now. The loss of Corn and BD hurt tremendously. Couple that with Antwan playing his way out of the draft (at least attempting to), the loss of 3 pass rushers from the year before, injury numbers that rival the plagues of Egypt we should have considered ourselves lucky to even be in the game with UT...much less take it to 5 OT's. T --- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts be known, the fucking 4th and 19 should have never happened. The Tide offense should have salted the game away in regulation when they had it 1st down and 3 yards to go to make a first. They make that 1st, ballgame's over! Basically the same could be said about the Arky game, the Tide fumbled and bumbled away a 21 point lead by NOT moving the chains when the game was on the line. I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :) 9 weeks and 5 days till KICKOFF!! ROLL TIDE ROLL Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:07 PM To: M Laborde; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well. Look at it on the bright side. Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play?? LOL That might help your feelings a little. It does mine. RTR September is just around the cornertwo months wooho!!! Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and 19... 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the rest of my life. And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival. What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened, it was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned repeatedly since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net _ TideFans.com: FREE for the BamaNation FREE Registration on TideFans.com
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
Ouch.that hurts Slef. LOL We did have a pitiful closing 5 minutes on offense during that game. Defense sucked a big egg as well. I don't like Kines or Rader either. They have an uphill battle this season with me. Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? MOO! - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? Hmmm I have to admit that those are legitimate mitigating circumstances. Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: Terry Pellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? You mention that first down, when in fact there were about 7 plays for a total of less than 10 yards that would have sealed that game. While the 4th and 19 play hurts, blaming the loss on that one play isn't logical. Neither is blaming the 4th and 19 on Kines. Heck, time and time again throughout last season we saw how inefficient the LB's were in pass coverage. That being said, there are aspects of Kines philosophy that I don't agree with. For instance, with the DL playing an *Inside to Outside* scheme I find it very difficult to believe we'll be able to maintain a consistant pass rush with the athletes we have on campus now. The loss of Corn and BD hurt tremendously. Couple that with Antwan playing his way out of the draft (at least attempting to), the loss of 3 pass rushers from the year before, injury numbers that rival the plagues of Egypt we should have considered ourselves lucky to even be in the game with UT...much less take it to 5 OT's. T --- Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Facts be known, the fucking 4th and 19 should have never happened. The Tide offense should have salted the game away in regulation when they had it 1st down and 3 yards to go to make a first. They make that 1st, ballgame's over! Basically the same could be said about the Arky game, the Tide fumbled and bumbled away a 21 point lead by NOT moving the chains when the game was on the line. I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :) 9 weeks and 5 days till KICKOFF!! ROLL TIDE ROLL Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:07 PM To: M Laborde; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well. Look at it on the bright side. Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play?? LOL That might help your feelings a little. It does mine. RTR September is just around the cornertwo months wooho!!! Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and 19... 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the rest of my life. And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival. What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened, it was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned repeatedly
Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well. Look at it on the bright side. Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play?? LOL That might help your feelings a little. It does mine. RTR September is just around the cornertwo months wooho!!! Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and 19... 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the rest of my life. And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival. What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened, it was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned repeatedly since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver?
Facts be known, the fucking 4th and 19 should have never happened. The Tide offense should have salted the game away in regulation when they had it 1st down and 3 yards to go to make a first. They make that 1st, ballgame's over! Basically the same could be said about the Arky game, the Tide fumbled and bumbled away a 21 point lead by NOT moving the chains when the game was on the line. I'm with Slef, fire Radar and Kines! :) 9 weeks and 5 days till KICKOFF!! ROLL TIDE ROLL Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Goodson Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:07 PM To: M Laborde; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and nineteen to Tenn. will forever piss me off as well. Look at it on the bright side. Remember when we had a 3rd and 23 in Auburn..and we got 24 yardson a draw play?? LOL That might help your feelings a little. It does mine. RTR September is just around the cornertwo months wooho!!! Joe It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. Ronald Reagan, First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981 - Original Message - From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Have we seen last of Oliver? 4th and 19... 4th and nine-fucking-teen!!! The agony of that will be felt in my heart for the rest of my life. And against the team that is, arguably, our biggest rival. What else needs to be said. Kines' hiring was questioned when it happened, it was questioned during the season many times, and has been questioned repeatedly since then. It's not 10 seconds. It's over a year plus his history. It WAS stupid of Shula to keep Kines. No question about it. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
