Re: [RDT-Dev] debugger: stepReturn fix, next+, step+ support

2007-05-01 Thread Werner Schuster (murphee)
Martin Krauskopf wrote:
 BTW it seems that there will be something like jruby-debug soon. I hope 
 I will have enough time to participate a lot on this piece. Might be 
 another debug-commons child or jruby-extras, does not matter to much.
   
jruby-debug would be good - BTW: yesterday I found out about a problem
in JRuby and  set_trace_func
based debugging: if JRuby's JIT is turned on, this won't work, because
the code that the JIT emits doesn't call the trace function.
I guess, there's not much to do about this before 1.0, but I guess
filing this as a bug would is necessary for post-1.0.


 Also it seems that DLTK people would join us in the future with 
 debug-commons with DBGp implementation. Future seems quite good for 
 ruby-debugging thanks to your initial contribution Markus! ;)
   
Have they committed to sharing their DBGp implementation?
They have a Ruby version in their CVS but it's not based on the
RDT/eclipse-debug code.

If there's an interest: I've been working on my own Ruby DBGp
implementation (with the RDT code as backend) - it's not complete, and
I'm still trying to get it to connect with DLTK, but it's coming along.

murphee


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Re: [RDT-Dev] debugger: stepReturn fix, next+, step+ support

2007-05-01 Thread Martin Krauskopf
Werner Schuster (murphee) wrote:
 Martin Krauskopf wrote:
 BTW it seems that there will be something like jruby-debug soon. I hope 
 I will have enough time to participate a lot on this piece. Might be 
 another debug-commons child or jruby-extras, does not matter to much.
   
 jruby-debug would be good - BTW: yesterday I found out about a problem
 in JRuby and  set_trace_func
 based debugging: if JRuby's JIT is turned on, this won't work, because
 the code that the JIT emits doesn't call the trace function.
 I guess, there's not much to do about this before 1.0, but I guess
 filing this as a bug would is necessary for post-1.0.

If we would be able to come with jruby-debug soon (month, two?) I 
thing that set_trace_func should be completely deprecated as a technique 
for debugger implementation. It is quite unusable for any large 
applications like, yup, rails.
But should be supported for other interpreters as a fall-back.

 Also it seems that DLTK people would join us in the future with 
 debug-commons with DBGp implementation. Future seems quite good for 
 ruby-debugging thanks to your initial contribution Markus! ;)

 Have they committed to sharing their DBGp implementation?

Andrey Platov wrote me that they would. But in the further future. They 
do not have enough time currently. I think they are quite open-minded 
folks. CCing Andrey then to talk for him.

 They have a Ruby version in their CVS but it's not based on the
 RDT/eclipse-debug code.
 
 If there's an interest: I've been working on my own Ruby DBGp
 implementation (with the RDT code as backend) - it's not complete, and
 I'm still trying to get it to connect with DLTK, but it's coming along.

This is exactly the problem. We are all working on the same again and 
again. I think we could cooperate and have something we could use all. 
Then when there is bug, one of us just fix it and everybody has it for 
free. Then we can concentrate to work on another advanced features wrt. 
to Ruby debugging. Probably debug-commons could be the place to start? 
:) And in the future it could become something like Java has in the 
JPDA, maybe...

m.

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