[sage-devel] Re: AMS Notices column
Strangely, Google Groups converted my em dash into a regular dash. The em dash character can be easily found elsewhere, though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: sage -clisp fails in sage-2.7.3
Maybe something else is going on, but... On Aug 8, 2007, at 22:59 , William Stein wrote: On 8/8/07, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/sage-2.7.3-x86_64-Linux$ ./sage -clisp clisp: /home/was/sage-2.7.2.rc1/local/lib/clisp/base/lisp.run: No such file or directory Doesn't this indicate the problem: when the binary was built, it picked up 'was's environment? I did 'sage -upgrade' and tried again, but the error remains. Any ideas how I can make this work? (It worked in sage-2.7.1) I think this is a problem with the binary not being supported on your machine. In fact, I just tried installing the binary on my Opteron machine and it doesn't work either. Even started SAGE doesn't work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/incoming/bin/linux/64bit/sage-2.7.3-x86_64-Linux$ ./ sage -- | SAGE Version 2.7.3, Release Date: 2007-08-02 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| -- Illegal instruction Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Fwd: Reduce package for Sage
On 8/7/07, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some months ago I promised to look into the issue of creating a Reduce package for Sage (as usual: as and when time permits :). While at the ISSAC conference where Sage was conspicuous by it's complete absence! Sorry about that... :-(, I had a brief meeting with Winfried Neun [1] from ZIB [2] - one of main distributors of Reduce (Codemist [3] being the other main distributor, mostly of the Windows version). I've talked with him a few times. The file SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/sage/interfaces/reduce.py is a first step toward making an interface. I haven't found the time to finish it yet. Reduce is not currently available under an open source license [4] but my conversation with Winfried left me with the impression that this *might* be subject to change given sufficient motivation. That would be very interesting. I tried to convince Winfried to try as well, or at least that there was no way REDUCE would get a lot of support from the open source community if it weren't open sourced. Evidently he personally knows the person who could open source REDUCE, so there is a chance. After discussing ideas for the Sage package, Winfried surprised me by stating that there is a version of PSL (Portable Standard Lisp - on which the ZIB version of Reduce is based) that can be called as a dynamic library API. It seems to me that to be able to interface with Reduce this way would be vastly superior to using the pexpect serial interface that Sage uses with Maxima, Axiom and several other packages). I promised to follow-up on this when I got back home, which is one reason for this email. It might be. It depends a huge amount on that API. For example, if any failure during a call to reduce crashes all of SAGE, that's definitely not good. It also might be vastly more work to get functionality than the pexpect interface. On the other hand, it could eventually work much better (given probably more effort on our part). The other reason for this email is that I would like to get some idea about the number of Sage people who might be interested in a Reduce interface. As far as I know, there is exactly one person in the world who has ever _asked_ me about a REDUCE interface for SAGE and that's Winfried Neun. He has a lot of code he wrote in REDUCE, and he wants to make it easily available on the web. The SAGE Notebook would be one possible slick way to do that. -- William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://www.williamstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?
On 8/8/07, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've discussed stuff like this before on sage-devel, and the decision was made to not put any automatic call home features in SAGE. For example, SAGE won't automatically check for updates, report usage patterns, etc., without the user explicitly doing something to opt in. The Sage server we are setting up at our university will serve all of our university students, all the high schools in our region, and all the high schools that we are serving via distance learning. We are definitely going to want to collect usage statistics on how the service is being used and we would be willing to share this information with the Sage development team. So, what do we need to do in order to opt in? Nobody has actually written any code in SAGE yet in order to record any notebook usage statistics. It would be fairly easy to add hooks into the notebook to record certain things to a log file. It would be very helpful if somebody (e.g., you and maybe other people), could just use the notebook and think about what sorts of things you would like to be able to have logged. Then post a list to this thread. Thanks! -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?
William wrote: We've discussed stuff like this before on sage-devel, and the decision was made to not put any automatic call home features in SAGE. For example, SAGE won't automatically check for updates, report usage patterns, etc., without the user explicitly doing something to opt in. The Sage server we are setting up at our university will serve all of our university students, all the high schools in our region, and all the high schools that we are serving via distance learning. We are definitely going to want to collect usage statistics on how the service is being used and we would be willing to share this information with the Sage development team. So, what do we need to do in order to opt in? Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: AMS Notices column
I really think some kind of a closing, final sentence/statement needs to be placed right before the full disclosure. I'd try and come up with something but I'm exhausted right now. - Robert On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:03 PM, David Joyner wrote: Hi: The version at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/papers/oscas/oscas-ams- notices.pdf has been accepted by the editor for the November NOTICES Opinion column. Are there any further comments? We have a day or 2 before sending in the final version. - David Joyner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: AMS Notices column
Thanks everyone. I posted a new version here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/papers/oscas/oscas-ams-notices.pdf On 8/8/07, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really think some kind of a closing, final sentence/statement needs to be placed right before the full disclosure. I'd try and come up with something but I'm exhausted right now. That would be good... but I'm *also* too way too tired to think of something! -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: sage custom search engine
On 8/6/07, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://test.chris.chiasson.name/sage/sage-search-engine.html Feedback is welcome. Should I cross post this to sage-forum? If you want, I will donate the contents of this directory to the SAGE project: http://test.chris.chiasson.name/sage/ This is awesome. Please officially donate that directory to SAGE. Also, I think the one good way to include this in SAGE would be to literally include that directory with SAGE and make it so when one clicks help in the notebook, a link to that page is provided somewhere on the resulting help page. Also, the page should definitely be on the main SAGE website somewhere. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?
I am not a SAGE developer, and I'll probably say things that most of you know already, but I thought about this so I might as well email the list. Here is how to go about and possibly improve rankings on Google (*): Step 1: Everyone on this list could make sure to add a link to sagemath.org on their homepage, preferably with free, open-source, math and software spelled out close to the link Step 2: The sagemath.org website definitely needs meta data to be added. The same keywords and more, maybe a dozen total. Google uses those. One could say this wouldn't help for a search on the single term sage, but I am not sure: the very last step that Google performs in every search is to make sure that it has diversity in the output (make sure it talks about herbs, fly-fishing rods and software). So I would suspect the sagemath.org website suffers on a search for the single word sage mostly because there are already quite a lot of programs out there called sage, and Google will only display so many in the top ten. Helping Google (through the meta) distinguish how one is different from the other might help. Step 3: Definitely buy Google ads. Who would find SAGE through Google that has never heard about it? I could imagine that someone searching for free mathematica would be very interested to learn about SAGE. Also you would get data out of it, since you can see which keywords seem to work with people. Finally, with Google Ads you only spend as much as you are willing to spend (I can't remember if there is a lower limit/month or what it is). That data must be worth some cash. Step 4: Go around and post on forums. For instance, if you search for mathematica free (without the quotes), this shows up high up, at least for me: http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189 . A website, highly ranked by Google, where people seem to be interested in something exactly like SAGE. Doesn't matter how old the conversation really is (in that case it was initiated 4 years ago, but the latest post is 6 months old), it would be good for all (the forum users, Google, SAGE users and developers) if someone took the time to post a paragraph about SAGE and a link to sagemath.org on many similar posts. It would help drain some PageRank to sagemath.org. Suggestion: Writing this up, I have a question. What is the correct case? sage, Sage or SAGE? Is it standardized? For example, in the Firefox search bar that was just posted yesterday, it seems to be written Sage. On the website, it's always (?) written SAGE, except in the logo where it looks like sage. Google picks up on those differences, sometimes, and it could be helpful. Paul (*) This is backed up: for a while I was the first hit when searching for chocolate mousse (without quotes) ! Unfortunately I have come down to 10th since moving to Oxford. :) On Aug 8, 9:14 am, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is kinda off the wall: Mathematica, Maple, and Matlab don't have a lot of competition for their keywords on Google, Yahoo, or MSN. By offering a **very low bid** on each of the names, you could probably put a message about the SAGE open source project on each of their names. In addition, you could do the same for SAGE's name. Together with the nice solid application based tutorials suggestion mentioned in this thread, you might easily siphon off their new users (and some old hands too). On Aug 7, 5:22 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sage-Devel, The SAGE downloads during the last week are as follows: Linux Binary 42 OS X Binary 42 Source 91 VMware (= Windows) 57 Total .. 232 The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly constant during the last 2-3 months. The growth of SAGE is definitely not what I hoped for during my talk at SAGE Days 4.Does anybody have any good ideas about how to increase the number of people downloading SAGE? My hope is that this question will spark a relaxed but enthusiastic and positive open-ended brainstorming thread in which a lot of crazy ideas appear. I'm laying a lot of groundwork (e.g., writing books, articles, etc.) and I think other people are (esp David Joyner), but there is probably much more that could be done. Please share your thoughts! -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?
I agree with most of what Paul said, except that the thread on karakas has a page rank of 2, so I am not sure what the ROI would be on that one. For comparison, SAGE's homepage has a page rank of 6. My homepage, which can easily be located, has a page rank of 5. Slashdot's homepage has a page rank of 9, etc... The [mathematica free] search keyword is clever. I think I've personally searched for that many times. Also, it helps to have a domain name where the individual words are separated. Search engines will boost site rankings for search terms that appear in the domain name: sage-math.org or sage.math.org or sage.math.net or sage.net If you make an email signature (that you use on reputable mailing lists) which contains the aforementioned type of domain name in a URL, you can obtain a double bonus. The reason for this is that mailing list (and newsgroup) messages are (usually) automatically converted to HTML archives where URLs are hyperlinked. When this happens, you gain a link from a reputable source that has your key words in the anchor text. Anchor text has a lot of weight; it's what people used to Google bomb the keywords [miserable failure]. On Aug 9, 5:54 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not a SAGE developer, and I'll probably say things that most of you know already, but I thought about this so I might as well email the list. Here is how to go about and possibly improve rankings on Google (*): Step 1: Everyone on this list could make sure to add a link to sagemath.org on their homepage, preferably with free, open-source, math and software spelled out close to the link Step 2: The sagemath.org website definitely needs meta data to be added. The same keywords and more, maybe a dozen total. Google uses those. One could say this wouldn't help for a search on the single term sage, but I am not sure: the very last step that Google performs in every search is to make sure that it has diversity in the output (make sure it talks about herbs, fly-fishing rods and software). So I would suspect the sagemath.org website suffers on a search for the single word sage mostly because there are already quite a lot of programs out there called sage, and Google will only display so many in the top ten. Helping Google (through the meta) distinguish how one is different from the other might help. Step 3: Definitely buy Google ads. Who would find SAGE through Google that has never heard about it? I could imagine that someone searching for free mathematica would be very interested to learn about SAGE. Also you would get data out of it, since you can see which keywords seem to work with people. Finally, with Google Ads you only spend as much as you are willing to spend (I can't remember if there is a lower limit/month or what it is). That data must be worth some cash. Step 4: Go around and post on forums. For instance, if you search for mathematica free (without the quotes), this shows up high up, at least for me:http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189. A website, highly ranked by Google, where people seem to be interested in something exactly like SAGE. Doesn't matter how old the conversation really is (in that case it was initiated 4 years ago, but the latest post is 6 months old), it would be good for all (the forum users, Google, SAGE users and developers) if someone took the time to post a paragraph about SAGE and a link to sagemath.org on many similar posts. It would help drain some PageRank to sagemath.org. Suggestion: Writing this up, I have a question. What is the correct case? sage, Sage or SAGE? Is it standardized? For example, in the Firefox search bar that was just posted yesterday, it seems to be written Sage. On the website, it's always (?) written SAGE, except in the logo where it looks like sage. Google picks up on those differences, sometimes, and it could be helpful. Paul (*) This is backed up: for a while I was the first hit when searching for chocolate mousse (without quotes) ! Unfortunately I have come down to 10th since moving to Oxford. :) On Aug 8, 9:14 am, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is kinda off the wall: Mathematica, Maple, and Matlab don't have a lot of competition for their keywords on Google, Yahoo, or MSN. By offering a **very low bid** on each of the names, you could probably put a message about the SAGE open source project on each of their names. In addition, you could do the same for SAGE's name. Together with the nice solid application based tutorials suggestion mentioned in this thread, you might easily siphon off their new users (and some old hands too). On Aug 7, 5:22 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sage-Devel, The SAGE downloads during the last week are as follows: Linux Binary 42 OS X Binary 42 Source 91 VMware (= Windows) 57 Total .. 232 The number of new
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE talk at CECM
On Aug 9, 2007, at 24:41 , William Stein wrote: My impression repeatedly, is that with SAGE it is best to focus as much as possible on young people and new users, and not worry much about old fogies. Older people have repeatedly seen generations of failures with free math software, so I think some of them might be somewhat jaded. Wait...what? Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds --- I'm beginning to like the cut of his jibberish. --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE talk at CECM
On 8/9/07, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 9, 2007, at 24:41 , William Stein wrote: My impression repeatedly, is that with SAGE it is best to focus as much as possible on young people and new users, and not worry much about old fogies. Older people have repeatedly seen generations of failures with free math software, so I think some of them might be somewhat jaded. Wait...what? Here;s the correct link: http://sage.math.washington.edu/tmp/20070808-sfu/ Now, if I could only find my cane and hearing aid:-). Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds --- I'm beginning to like the cut of his jibberish. --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE talk at CECM
What you should have told them was that SAGE is going to eat their lunch, then spun on your heels, and walked out. Just kidding. On Aug 9, 2:41 am, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I substantially updated the 1-hour SAGE colloquium-style talk I posted earlier today (thanks for the feedback). The slides (sfu.pdf) and worksheet are at http://sage.math.washington.edu/tmp/sfu/ --- The talk went very well. This was at one of the Maple development centers, the very nice person who invited me (Michael Monogan) was one of the people who started Maple in the early 1980s, and I had the impression that almost everybody in the room used and loved Maple. So the audience reactions and questions at the end were interesting. * There were several older people who were involved with Maple since the early days, who asked some interesting questions: * Will SAGE be around in 10 years? (Several people in the audience responded immediately -- yes, how could it not be, it is hard to kill GPL'd programs.) * How is it possible that SAGE can exist in the future given all the *tedious* work that must be done -- e.g., documentation, automated testing, making SAGE available to people, etc.?? (I answered that since specific work on SAGE is voluntary, SAGE developers almost only do work on SAGE that actually interests and excites them; the questioner just shook her head in utter disbelief and said it wasn't possible. I also pointed out that what some consider boring tedium -- e.g., writing the tutorial -- others really like doing -- e.g., David Joyner really loves writing!) * Another person explained why he thought that SAGE would almost certainly become commercial within a few years, and that my dream of having something free and open source in the long run is hence doomed. He sited many examples to back this up of actual systems like Maple, Maxima, Mupad, etc., that used to be free but became commercial out of necessity. I explained that SAGE becoming commercial only (like Maple) is totally impossible because of the GPL and that the copyright of SAGE and its components is owned by hundreds of people. Most of the audience consisted of students (many advanced undergrads, some in applied math and combinatorics), and they were uniformly enthusiastic about SAGE, the notebook interface, and *JSMATH* (which they love). My impression repeatedly, is that with SAGE it is best to focus as much as possible on young people and new users, and not worry much about old fogies. Older people have repeatedly seen generations of failures with free math software, so I think some of them might be somewhat jaded. -- William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washingtonhttp://www.williamstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Quitting ignored worksheet vs. long computations
I understand the necessity to quit ignored worksheets in many cases, to save resources. However, it does kill a highly desirable behaviour that existed before: 1) start very long computation at work 2) kill browser, log out (process still running) 3) from home, connect to worksheet to check partial data, log out again 4) next morning, fire up browser and use results in worksheet that were completed at, say, 3am In the current model, I'm afraid the results would not be living anymore, because shortly after the session completed, it would probably get killed due to being ignored. I understand there are work-arounds, like saving the resulting object as soon as it is computed, and in long computations it's advisable anyway to save checkpoints. The sage notebook behaviour used to be really friendly for these things, though. Cheers, Nils --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: ams notices opinion column
I've been meaning to reply to this, since I've been specifically mentioned. Sorry for the delay. On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 11:49 -0700, William Stein wrote: On 8/5/07, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/4/07, Alec Mihailovs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alec Mihailovs [EMAIL PROTECTED] It actually may be true (regarding to Mathematica). Their code may be very poorly commented (and AFAICT it is.) And the motivation for doing that is very simple. If you (a developer) do it that way, so that you are the only one who could understand the code - less chances that you get fired. Scary. Unfortunately, you're quite right. I also disagree with this, although not from much real job experience. Probably, most code is poorly documented. This might just be because documentation is often just an afterthought, and perhaps a boring afterthought. I think Jon Bober's code for number of partitions is a very nice example of how open source is so much better. Jon's code is a very good example of what everyone wants from code. It certainly is not an example of open vs. closed source. But it is -- at least -- an example of open source code. The corresponding closed source code is whatever implements that function in Mathematica, and I can't give it as an example to compare with, since I can't look at it. Only Jon can really answer this (Jon?) but I tend to suspect -- and maybe I am wrong -- that Jon wrote his code the way he did, because he knows he's posting it to potentially 100 people to look at every time he posts an update. There must also be something to the fact that he knows people will always have a chance to look at his code and inspect it, that increases the chances he'll document things.Moreover, just perhaps, the fact that the open source PARI code to do the same thing was poorly documented and wrong (!) and was sort of embarrassing to PARI, might have also made him want to document things more. Or I could be making up nonsense. Jon, why is your code so well documented? I would like to say that I always write like that, but unfortunately that probably isn't true. Anyway, while I may be influenced by the fact that other people might look at the code, it's just a simple fact that well documented code is more maintainable. For example, it has been about a week since I last really looked at that code, and if it was poorly documented, then by now I probably would have forgotten how it worked. The point about the pari code being poorly documented might also have had some influence. For example, I didn't want to someone else to have to search for Rademacher's paper, or to try to figure out just how to reduce precision properly, etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Pari matrix methods
There is a pari method called matsolve, used for solving matrix equations which is not interfaced to. It is interfaced for gp though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] SAGE in TeXmacs
Hello, I was playing around this afternoon and was able to pretty easily create a TeXmacs mode for SAGE. It has support for tab-completion, LaTeX display, help (via ? and ??), and displaying graphics within TeXmacs. Just untar the attached file into your ~/.TeXmacs/plugins directory. It might be interesting to create an interface which talks to a remote notebook server. --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- texmacs-sage.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
[sage-devel] Sage IDE
For the past few weeks I have been putting together a cross platform IDE for Sage. It is based on jEdit, it has most of the features that a typical programmer's text editor has, and it can also be extended to support Java3D. My next step is to add the protocol to it that is needed to talk with the Notebook server. Anyway, the application can be downloaded from the following URL if anyone is interested in looking at it: http://206.21.94.60/tmp/sageide_dist.01.zip Java needs to be installed in order to run the IDE. For people that use Windows, Java can be obtained here: http://java.com Just unzip the archive and execute either the run.bat script or the run.sh script in order to launch the application. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: SAGE in TeXmacs
I wasn't able to get this working but I am not much of a texmacs user. Anyway, could you perhaps email the texmacs guy and let him know abour it? Maybe he could add a SAGE link on his webpage and post your tarball. On 8/9/07, Mike Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was playing around this afternoon and was able to pretty easily create a TeXmacs mode for SAGE. It has support for tab-completion, LaTeX display, help (via ? and ??), and displaying graphics within TeXmacs. Just untar the attached file into your ~/.TeXmacs/plugins directory. It might be interesting to create an interface which talks to a remote notebook server. --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Wiki is down
On sagemath.org homepage the Wiki link is missing from the top but is on the bottom but the wiki is down. On 8/9/07, Mike Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that the wiki has been down for the past few days. Did it move or is it just down? --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Wiki is down
There appear to be a bunch of wikis on various UW public web servers. On 8/9/07, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. UW shut it down because it violated some security policy they have. I just got back in the country and should be able to get it going again in some form soon. - William (Sent from my iPhone.) On Aug 9, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Timothy Clemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On sagemath.org homepage the Wiki link is missing from the top but is on the bottom but the wiki is down. On 8/9/07, Mike Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that the wiki has been down for the past few days. Did it move or is it just down? --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Wiki is down
I know. UW shut it down because it violated some security policy they have. I just got back in the country and should be able to get it going again in some form soon. - William (Sent from my iPhone.) On Aug 9, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Timothy Clemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On sagemath.org homepage the Wiki link is missing from the top but is on the bottom but the wiki is down. On 8/9/07, Mike Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that the wiki has been down for the past few days. Did it move or is it just down? --Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
