Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Nathan Dunfield]

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 12:38:40 PM UTC-5, Volker Braun wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 3:10:22 PM UTC+2, Nathan Dunfield wrote:
>>
>> but of course the Mac Mini has only 2 cores.
>>
>
> For the record, our OSX buildbot is a quad-core mac mini (i7-3720QM CPU @ 
> 2.60GHz).
>

Inexplicably, the option of a quad-core processor was dropped with the 
current Mac mini revision that came out in late 2014.

Nathan

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Volker Braun]

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 3:10:22 PM UTC+2, Nathan Dunfield wrote:
>
> but of course the Mac Mini has only 2 cores.
>

For the record, our OSX buildbot is a quad-core mac mini (i7-3720QM CPU @ 
2.60GHz).

CPU-wise its actually reasonable, but the box is just too small. Fan goes 
crazy if you actually compute something, and no space for disks. On the 
plus side, it looks good on your desk when idle.

I did build a hackintosh for fun from some spare parts that I had lying 
around (i.e. faster cpu, more memory, bigger harddisk) than the mac mini. 
It takes some fiddling to get it working. Tough at the end of the day I 
still don't like OSX that much, too much eye candy and not enough work 
horse.

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Volker Braun]

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:25:57 AM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
>
> And is unfortunately illegal according to Apple though I'm not a lawyer.
>

May or may not be legal depending on your jurisdiction. In the US its 
illegal according to the Psystar case. In Germany, most click-through terms 
and conditions are void as your consumer rights cannot be restricted 
post-sale. Most of the EU probably has similar consumer protection laws. 

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Nathan Dunfield]

>
> Plus licenses for a range of OSX versions (at least those that are 
>> still supported by Apple...) 
>>
>
> these are peanuts, e.g. £20 for 10.7
>

I don't know if this is still the case, but as of a year ago if you become 
a registered Apple Developer then you got access to all the old versions of 
OS X and XCode as well as the pre-releases.  That costs US$100/year, but 
once you have the complete set you could drop the subscription since it's 
easy to keep current: just copy the VM for version n when n+1 comes out and 
the let the system update itself. 

With regards to hardware, the single-core performance of the Mac Pro isn't 
that much better than the Mac Mini, see:

https://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks

but of course the Mac Mini has only 2 cores.  If space is not an issue, you 
might think about the iMac with the i7-7700K, or, if it is, the top of the 
line Mac Book Pro is quite a bit more powerful than the Mini at this point.

Nathan

 

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Jean-Pierre Flori]

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 2:31:58 PM UTC+2, William wrote:
>
>
> (but 1st thing 1st, let's start from the current version being 
>>> well-supported...)
>>>
>> Or rather let's find someone from ODK willing to buy the hardware!
>>
>> (Next we could buy some sparc and itanium CPUs and Solaris licenses and a 
>> power8/9 :))
>>
>
> We literally used to have such a cluster for sage testing, including 
> itanium!
>
Yes I remember and I advocated that one of ODK goals should  be portability 
and such hardware should be bought back, including hardware for testing 
cygwin portability, but I was never an official member of ODK.

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[William Stein]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 3:23 AM Jean-Pierre Flori  wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 12:13:20 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:03:11 AM UTC+1, Erik Bray wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Dima Pasechnik 
>>> wrote:
>>> > https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro
>>> >
>>> > I don't see why ODK cannot spend 4600 euro to buy one of these...
>>> > (it is way above my ODK budget, but would still be peanuts for the
>>> whole
>>> > project)
>>>
>>> Plus licenses for a range of OSX versions (at least those that are
>>> still supported by Apple...)
>>>
>>
>> these are peanuts, e.g. £20 for 10.7
>> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/D6106ZM/A/os-x-lion
>>
>> (but 1st thing 1st, let's start from the current version being
>> well-supported...)
>>
> Or rather let's find someone from ODK willing to buy the hardware!
>
> (Next we could buy some sparc and itanium CPUs and Solaris licenses and a
> power8/9 :))
>

We literally used to have such a cluster for sage testing, including
itanium!

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Jean-Pierre Flori]

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 12:13:20 PM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:03:11 AM UTC+1, Erik Bray wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Dima Pasechnik  
>> wrote: 
>> > https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro 
>> > 
>> > I don't see why ODK cannot spend 4600 euro to buy one of these... 
>> > (it is way above my ODK budget, but would still be peanuts for the 
>> whole 
>> > project) 
>>
>> Plus licenses for a range of OSX versions (at least those that are 
>> still supported by Apple...) 
>>
>
> these are peanuts, e.g. £20 for 10.7
> https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/D6106ZM/A/os-x-lion
>
> (but 1st thing 1st, let's start from the current version being 
> well-supported...)
>
Or rather let's find someone from ODK willing to buy the hardware!

(Next we could buy some sparc and itanium CPUs and Solaris licenses and a 
power8/9 :))

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Dima Pasechnik]

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:03:11 AM UTC+1, Erik Bray wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Dima Pasechnik  > wrote: 
> > https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro 
> > 
> > I don't see why ODK cannot spend 4600 euro to buy one of these... 
> > (it is way above my ODK budget, but would still be peanuts for the whole 
> > project) 
>
> Plus licenses for a range of OSX versions (at least those that are 
> still supported by Apple...) 
>

these are peanuts, e.g. £20 for 10.7
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/D6106ZM/A/os-x-lion

(but 1st thing 1st, let's start from the current version being 
well-supported...)
 

>
> > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 10:25:57 AM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 8:29:37 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> problem is, Apple  headless hardware range currently available 
> consists 
> >>> of Mac Mini's, which are very much underpowered. 
> >>> 
> >>> they promise something better in Dec. 
> >>> 
> >>> Internet is offering details on how to hack OSX to run in a VM which 
> is 
> >>> not running on Apple hardware. Perhaps this is the best way out. 
> >> 
> >> From what I tried and heard that more or less works depending on OS X 
> >> version. 
> >> And is unfortunately illegal according to Apple though I'm not a 
> lawyer. 
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Erik Bray]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Dima Pasechnik  wrote:
> https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro
>
> I don't see why ODK cannot spend 4600 euro to buy one of these...
> (it is way above my ODK budget, but would still be peanuts for the whole
> project)

Plus licenses for a range of OSX versions (at least those that are
still supported by Apple...)

> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 10:25:57 AM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 8:29:37 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>
>>> problem is, Apple  headless hardware range currently available consists
>>> of Mac Mini's, which are very much underpowered.
>>>
>>> they promise something better in Dec.
>>>
>>> Internet is offering details on how to hack OSX to run in a VM which is
>>> not running on Apple hardware. Perhaps this is the best way out.
>>
>> From what I tried and heard that more or less works depending on OS X
>> version.
>> And is unfortunately illegal according to Apple though I'm not a lawyer.
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Dima Pasechnik]

https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro

I don't see why ODK cannot spend 4600 euro to buy one of these...
(it is way above my ODK budget, but would still be peanuts for the whole 
project)


On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 10:25:57 AM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 8:29:37 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>
>> problem is, Apple  headless hardware range currently available consists 
>> of Mac Mini's, which are very much underpowered. 
>>
>> they promise something better in Dec.
>>
>> Internet is offering details on how to hack OSX to run in a VM which is 
>> not running on Apple hardware. Perhaps this is the best way out.
>>
> From what I tried and heard that more or less works depending on OS X 
> version.
> And is unfortunately illegal according to Apple though I'm not a lawyer.
>

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Jean-Pierre Flori]

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 8:29:37 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> problem is, Apple  headless hardware range currently available consists of 
> Mac Mini's, which are very much underpowered. 
>
> they promise something better in Dec.
>
> Internet is offering details on how to hack OSX to run in a VM which is 
> not running on Apple hardware. Perhaps this is the best way out.
>
>From what I tried and heard that more or less works depending on OS X 
version.
And is unfortunately illegal according to Apple though I'm not a lawyer.

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Dima Pasechnik]

problem is, Apple  headless hardware range currently available consists of Mac 
Mini's, which are very much underpowered. 

they promise something better in Dec.

Internet is offering details on how to hack OSX to run in a VM which is not 
running on Apple hardware. Perhaps this is the best way out.

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Nathan Dunfield]

>
>  How do people get VMs for testing different OSX / XCode versions? 
>

Both VirtualBox and VMWare (Fusion) fully support OS X VMs with the 
important caveat you have to use actual Apple hardware for the host.

I've used both without major problems on a Mac Pro.  Currently I mostly use 
VMWare since it's a little more polished (my university has a 
site-license).  You can configure VMWare so you that you can both ssh into 
the VM from the host as well as interact with the full GUI, the latter even 
remotely using VMWare's VNC capability.   With fairly minimal installs and 
only the occasional snapshot, I find you need about 40-50Gb of disk space 
for each VM.  

I believe Travis-CI offers OS X nodes, though building Sage might well time 
out on their free tier.  

Best,

Nathan

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Dima Pasechnik]

On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 10:00:05 AM UTC+1, Erik Bray wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Isuru Fernando  > wrote: 
> > Here's a branch for osx with sage 7.6. 
> > https://github.com/isuruf/sagelib-feedstock/tree/osx3 
> > Unfortunately travis-ci timeouts due to the build time restrictions. 
> > conda-forge's policy has been to do it locally and upload to the 
> anaconda 
> > channel. 
> > 
> > Since I don't have access to osx, it would be great if somebody could 
> build 
> > it on an OSX machine with 10.9 sdk and upload it somewhere. You only 
> need to 
> > make sure the clang on the PATH is the apple one and do `conda build 
> recipe` 
> > on the repo root. You can set CPU_COUNT variable to set number of 
> threads to 
> > be used when building sagelib. 
>
> I wonder if OpenDreamKit could pay for an OSX machine to test on, 
> because I have no good way to test either.  Granted, I feel with every 
> OSX version there's a completely different XCode that changes 
> everything radically (that was my experience, at least, back when I 
> had a lot of astronomer users who all used OSX--every OS upgrade broke 
> everything).  How do people get VMs for testing different OSX / XCode 
> versions? 
>
 
I've just asked an Apple insider (the guy works for Apple as a senior dev, 
in fact)
I happen to know, I just cannot imagine they don't have some meaningful 
tips...

Anyhow, I could buy a Mac Mini with ODK money and hook it up on the net.
We can also have a look at getting a VM, e.g. something 
like https://xcloud.me/ (not cheap though...)


Dima


 

>
> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Erik Bray  > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:25 PM, mmarco  > wrote: 
> >> > Does that work on all the platforms supported by anaconda, or is it 
> >> > linux 
> >> > only? 
> >> 
> >> For Windows I hope to one day package Sage and its dependencies for 
> >> Cygwin too (now that most of them are working).  Isuru's work on this 
> >> will be a big help for that. 
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately that doesn't help with Anaconda for Windows.  One 
> >> possibility that I might look into at some point is actually packaging 
> >> Cygwin (by which I mean the core Cygwin DLLs) for conda.  The downside 
> >> to that is that with Cygwin it's kind of all-or-nothing, so I would 
> >> also need to make separate packages for versions of most dependencies 
> >> built against Cygwin.  So yet another possibility would be for conda 
> >> to make Cygwin an officially-supported platform for which binaries can 
> >> be built but I'm not sure how likely that is either... 
> >> 
> >> > El jueves, 23 de marzo de 2017, 5:29:31 (UTC+1), Isuru Fernando 
> >> > escribió: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Hi, 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Update: With the help of Erik and Julian, we now have all the 
> runtime 
> >> >> dependencies of sage in conda-forge. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> There are some more things to be done until it is ready. (like 
> patching 
> >> >> sagelib for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20382) 
> >> >> 
> >> >> You can install sage using the following commands (Downloads about 1 
> >> >> GB). 
> >> >> Note that this is still experimental. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> conda config --add channels conda-forge 
> >> >> conda create -n sage sage 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Regards, 
> >> >> Isuru Fernando 
> >> > 
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Erik Bray]

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Isuru Fernando  wrote:
> Here's a branch for osx with sage 7.6.
> https://github.com/isuruf/sagelib-feedstock/tree/osx3
> Unfortunately travis-ci timeouts due to the build time restrictions.
> conda-forge's policy has been to do it locally and upload to the anaconda
> channel.
>
> Since I don't have access to osx, it would be great if somebody could build
> it on an OSX machine with 10.9 sdk and upload it somewhere. You only need to
> make sure the clang on the PATH is the apple one and do `conda build recipe`
> on the repo root. You can set CPU_COUNT variable to set number of threads to
> be used when building sagelib.

I wonder if OpenDreamKit could pay for an OSX machine to test on,
because I have no good way to test either.  Granted, I feel with every
OSX version there's a completely different XCode that changes
everything radically (that was my experience, at least, back when I
had a lot of astronomer users who all used OSX--every OS upgrade broke
everything).  How do people get VMs for testing different OSX / XCode
versions?

> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Erik Bray  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:25 PM, mmarco  wrote:
>> > Does that work on all the platforms supported by anaconda, or is it
>> > linux
>> > only?
>>
>> For Windows I hope to one day package Sage and its dependencies for
>> Cygwin too (now that most of them are working).  Isuru's work on this
>> will be a big help for that.
>>
>> Unfortunately that doesn't help with Anaconda for Windows.  One
>> possibility that I might look into at some point is actually packaging
>> Cygwin (by which I mean the core Cygwin DLLs) for conda.  The downside
>> to that is that with Cygwin it's kind of all-or-nothing, so I would
>> also need to make separate packages for versions of most dependencies
>> built against Cygwin.  So yet another possibility would be for conda
>> to make Cygwin an officially-supported platform for which binaries can
>> be built but I'm not sure how likely that is either...
>>
>> > El jueves, 23 de marzo de 2017, 5:29:31 (UTC+1), Isuru Fernando
>> > escribió:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Update: With the help of Erik and Julian, we now have all the runtime
>> >> dependencies of sage in conda-forge.
>> >>
>> >> There are some more things to be done until it is ready. (like patching
>> >> sagelib for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20382)
>> >>
>> >> You can install sage using the following commands (Downloads about 1
>> >> GB).
>> >> Note that this is still experimental.
>> >>
>> >> conda config --add channels conda-forge
>> >> conda create -n sage sage
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Isuru Fernando
>> >
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Isuru Fernando]

Here's a branch for osx with sage 7.6. https://github.com/
isuruf/sagelib-feedstock/tree/osx3
Unfortunately travis-ci timeouts due to the build time restrictions.
conda-forge's policy has been to do it locally and upload to the anaconda
channel.

Since I don't have access to osx, it would be great if somebody could build
it on an OSX machine with 10.9 sdk and upload it somewhere. You only need
to make sure the clang on the PATH is the apple one and do `conda build
recipe` on the repo root. You can set CPU_COUNT variable to set number of
threads to be used when building sagelib.

Isuru Fernando


On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Erik Bray  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:25 PM, mmarco  wrote:
> > Does that work on all the platforms supported by anaconda, or is it linux
> > only?
>
> For Windows I hope to one day package Sage and its dependencies for
> Cygwin too (now that most of them are working).  Isuru's work on this
> will be a big help for that.
>
> Unfortunately that doesn't help with Anaconda for Windows.  One
> possibility that I might look into at some point is actually packaging
> Cygwin (by which I mean the core Cygwin DLLs) for conda.  The downside
> to that is that with Cygwin it's kind of all-or-nothing, so I would
> also need to make separate packages for versions of most dependencies
> built against Cygwin.  So yet another possibility would be for conda
> to make Cygwin an officially-supported platform for which binaries can
> be built but I'm not sure how likely that is either...
>
> > El jueves, 23 de marzo de 2017, 5:29:31 (UTC+1), Isuru Fernando escribió:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Update: With the help of Erik and Julian, we now have all the runtime
> >> dependencies of sage in conda-forge.
> >>
> >> There are some more things to be done until it is ready. (like patching
> >> sagelib for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20382)
> >>
> >> You can install sage using the following commands (Downloads about 1
> GB).
> >> Note that this is still experimental.
> >>
> >> conda config --add channels conda-forge
> >> conda create -n sage sage
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Isuru Fernando
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Erik Bray]

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:25 PM, mmarco  wrote:
> Does that work on all the platforms supported by anaconda, or is it linux
> only?

For Windows I hope to one day package Sage and its dependencies for
Cygwin too (now that most of them are working).  Isuru's work on this
will be a big help for that.

Unfortunately that doesn't help with Anaconda for Windows.  One
possibility that I might look into at some point is actually packaging
Cygwin (by which I mean the core Cygwin DLLs) for conda.  The downside
to that is that with Cygwin it's kind of all-or-nothing, so I would
also need to make separate packages for versions of most dependencies
built against Cygwin.  So yet another possibility would be for conda
to make Cygwin an officially-supported platform for which binaries can
be built but I'm not sure how likely that is either...

> El jueves, 23 de marzo de 2017, 5:29:31 (UTC+1), Isuru Fernando escribió:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Update: With the help of Erik and Julian, we now have all the runtime
>> dependencies of sage in conda-forge.
>>
>> There are some more things to be done until it is ready. (like patching
>> sagelib for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20382)
>>
>> You can install sage using the following commands (Downloads about 1 GB).
>> Note that this is still experimental.
>>
>> conda config --add channels conda-forge
>> conda create -n sage sage
>>
>> Regards,
>> Isuru Fernando
>
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Isuru Fernando]

Linux only.

For OSX, all the dependencies are there. Once
https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/12426 is resolved, I can make a package
for OSX as well.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM, mmarco  wrote:

> Does that work on all the platforms supported by anaconda, or is it linux
> only?
>
>
> El jueves, 23 de marzo de 2017, 5:29:31 (UTC+1), Isuru Fernando escribió:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Update: With the help of Erik and Julian, we now have all the runtime
>> dependencies of sage in conda-forge.
>>
>> There are some more things to be done until it is ready. (like patching
>> sagelib for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20382)
>>
>> You can install sage using the following commands (Downloads about 1 GB).
>> Note that this is still experimental.
>>
>> conda config --add channels conda-forgeconda create -n sage sage
>>
>> Regards,
>> Isuru Fernando
>>
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[mmarco]

Does that work on all the platforms supported by anaconda, or is it linux 
only?

El jueves, 23 de marzo de 2017, 5:29:31 (UTC+1), Isuru Fernando escribió:
>
> Hi,
>
> Update: With the help of Erik and Julian, we now have all the runtime 
> dependencies of sage in conda-forge.
>
> There are some more things to be done until it is ready. (like patching 
> sagelib for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20382)
>
> You can install sage using the following commands (Downloads about 1 GB). 
> Note that this is still experimental.
>
> conda config --add channels conda-forgeconda create -n sage sage
>
> Regards,
> Isuru Fernando
>

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Isuru Fernando]

Hi,

Update: With the help of Erik and Julian, we now have all the runtime
dependencies of sage in conda-forge.

There are some more things to be done until it is ready. (like patching
sagelib for https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/20382)

You can install sage using the following commands (Downloads about 1 GB).
Note that this is still experimental.

conda config --add channels conda-forgeconda create -n sage sage

Regards,
Isuru Fernando

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Isuru Fernando]

Hi,

I've identified the gap issue here,
https://github.com/gap-system/gap/issues/1171. So, that's working now.

I've only got a few packages to go before I start testing sagelib. (sympow,
maxima and giacpy_sage). Any help is appreciated. There's still the sagenb
related packages and optional packages. I'll not be packaging those (sagenb
is getting phased out, right?), but I can help out if anybody is interested.

> You would be very welcome to join and we could possibly pay for
some/all of the trip;

Thanks. There's no time to get visas and arrange everything. (I previously
thought I'd be busy that week, but now that's cleared up.) I'll join
remotely.

Isuru Fernando


On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery 
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 07:50:08AM +0530, Isuru Fernando wrote:
> >Update:
> >All the build dependencies of sagelib except libgap is in conda-forge
> >now for Linux and OS X.
>
> Wow, excellent! Congratulations :-)
>
> >See [1]https://github.com/conda-forge/staged-recipes/issues/2357 for
> >details on what has to be done. If there are volunteers who would like
> >to help me in maintaining these conda recipes, please let me know.
> Each
> >recipe lives in its own git repo
> >like [2]https://github.com/conda-forge/ntl-feedstock and I can give
> you
> >push access.
> >On OS X, the dependencies were compiled with clang and linked to
> >libc++. Fortran packages are compiled with gfortran. What's the status
> >of OS X with clang anyway?
> >For libgap and gap, I don't know how to fix this
> >issue, [3]https://github.com/conda-forge/gap-feedstock/issues/3 or
> >whether that is a gap issue or a conda-build issue.
>
> Sage Days 85 [1] in one week near Paris from now might be a good place
> to work on this, since Matthias, Erik, and GAP devs will all be in the
> same room.
>
> You would be very welcome to join and we could possibly pay for
> some/all of the trip; it's pretty late though, so it's probably
> complicated for you to arrange a trip and to get reasonably priced
> plane tickets. Let me know in case you'd be interested.
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolas
>
> [1] https://wiki.sagemath.org/days85
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Nicolas M. Thiery]

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 07:50:08AM +0530, Isuru Fernando wrote:
>Update:
>All the build dependencies of sagelib except libgap is in conda-forge
>now for Linux and OS X.

Wow, excellent! Congratulations :-)

>See [1]https://github.com/conda-forge/staged-recipes/issues/2357 for
>details on what has to be done. If there are volunteers who would like
>to help me in maintaining these conda recipes, please let me know. Each
>recipe lives in its own git repo
>like [2]https://github.com/conda-forge/ntl-feedstock and I can give you
>push access.
>On OS X, the dependencies were compiled with clang and linked to
>libc++. Fortran packages are compiled with gfortran. What's the status
>of OS X with clang anyway?
>For libgap and gap, I don't know how to fix this
>issue, [3]https://github.com/conda-forge/gap-feedstock/issues/3 or
>whether that is a gap issue or a conda-build issue.

Sage Days 85 [1] in one week near Paris from now might be a good place
to work on this, since Matthias, Erik, and GAP devs will all be in the
same room.

You would be very welcome to join and we could possibly pay for
some/all of the trip; it's pretty late though, so it's probably
complicated for you to arrange a trip and to get reasonably priced
plane tickets. Let me know in case you'd be interested.

Cheers,
Nicolas

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Conda package for Sage

[Isuru Fernando]

Update:

All the build dependencies of sagelib except libgap is in conda-forge now
for Linux and OS X. See
https://github.com/conda-forge/staged-recipes/issues/2357 for details on
what has to be done. If there are volunteers who would like to help me in
maintaining these conda recipes, please let me know. Each recipe lives in
its own git repo like https://github.com/conda-forge/ntl-feedstock and I
can give you push access.

On OS X, the dependencies were compiled with clang and linked to libc++.
Fortran packages are compiled with gfortran. What's the status of OS X with
clang anyway?

For libgap and gap, I don't know how to fix this issue,
https://github.com/conda-forge/gap-feedstock/issues/3 or whether that is a
gap issue or a conda-build issue.


Isuru Fernando

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Matthias Koeppe 
wrote:

> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 4:27:02 AM UTC-8, Isuru Fernando wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anybody interested in making proper conda packages for the remaining 74
>> packages and sage itself?
>>
>
> People interested in this effort may want to look at:
> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21507
> Task ticket: Make sagelib a pip-installable Python source package, listed
> on PyPI
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