Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-25 Thread Dima Pasechnik


On Monday, 25 January 2016 07:31:02 UTC, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
> >> I am sure if we were electing the best Sage bugs, you won't abstain... 
> > I vote for http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10609 
>
> Come on, it's ridiculous alright but you cannot vote for it: it's not 
> even a Sage bug. 
>

A bug must be running for or in an office, and in particular be still open.
If a bug is elected, it might be overthrown by a coup d'etat or a public 
revolt...
And even calling for upstream powers to intervene must not be automatically 
considered high treason...

 

>
> I'm rather glad, by the way, that being unable to produce such 
> high-quality bugs we have to import them from elsewhere. 
>
> Nathann 
>

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
>> I am sure if we were electing the best Sage bugs, you won't abstain...
> I vote for http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10609

Come on, it's ridiculous alright but you cannot vote for it: it's not
even a Sage bug.

I'm rather glad, by the way, that being unable to produce such
high-quality bugs we have to import them from elsewhere.

Nathann

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-01-24 16:01, Dima Pasechnik wrote:

I am sure if we were electing the best Sage bugs, you won't abstain...

I vote for http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10609

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
> I am sure if we were electing the best Sage bugs, you won't abstain...

I hope that our first reflex with be to try to fix them instead of
voting on them :-P

> (and, interestingly, most probably next time the election results would be
> different...)

The most fitting name for what is called 'democracy' nowadays is a
'probabilistic dictatorship'. You have a pool of 4~5 guys, and at
every election they roll a dice to know which one will be officially
in charge. Of course it's 100% sure that it will be one of these guys,
which makes it a dictatorship.

Nathann

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Dima Pasechnik


On Sunday, 24 January 2016 12:09:27 UTC, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
>
> > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, 
> but expecting different results ;-)
>
> That's what I should answer the next guy who will try the "it's 
> irresponsible to not vote" lecture on me.
>

I am sure if we were electing the best Sage bugs, you won't abstain...
(and, interestingly, most probably next time the election results would be 
different...)
 

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
> The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again,
but expecting different results ;-)

That's what I should answer the next guy who will try the "it's
irresponsible to not vote" lecture on me.

Nathann

>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 4:21:50 AM UTC-5, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>>
>> > So you're not running "make distclean" at all?
>>
>> No. But I did 5 seconds ago and I am now recompiling everything.
>> Perhaps the problem will not happen again.
>>
>> > Did you verify that you're really on origin/develop, without any other
>> > commits or uncommited changes?
>>
>> Yes yes. I am always on the upstream develop and nothing else.
>>
>> > The next time that you try this, can you please keep the complete
output of
>> > what each of these "make" commands produces, together with the output
of "ls
>> > -l . local" from $SAGE_ROOT and the contents of config.log and the
output of
>> > "git status" and "git log|head".
>>
>> The next report I will send here will contain this information, if the
>> problem occurs again after the full rebuild. The output of the second
>> 'make', however, is usually very long as the command is successful :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nathann
>
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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Volker Braun
Whenever lib64 is not a symlink you will get this error. The question for 
you is, why is it not created as a symlink. This should be a relatively 
easy grep on the logs. 

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but 
expecting different results ;-)






On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 4:21:50 AM UTC-5, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
> > So you're not running "make distclean" at all? 
>
> No. But I did 5 seconds ago and I am now recompiling everything. 
> Perhaps the problem will not happen again. 
>
> > Did you verify that you're really on origin/develop, without any other 
> > commits or uncommited changes? 
>
> Yes yes. I am always on the upstream develop and nothing else. 
>
> > The next time that you try this, can you please keep the complete output 
> of 
> > what each of these "make" commands produces, together with the output of 
> "ls 
> > -l . local" from $SAGE_ROOT and the contents of config.log and the 
> output of 
> > "git status" and "git log|head". 
>
> The next report I will send here will contain this information, if the 
> problem occurs again after the full rebuild. The output of the second 
> 'make', however, is usually very long as the command is successful :-) 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Nathann 
>

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-01-24 10:21, Nathann Cohen wrote:

The next report I will send here will contain this information, if the
problem occurs again after the full rebuild. The output of the second
'make', however, is usually very long as the command is successful :-)


I'm most likely only interested in the first 1000 lines say.

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
> So you're not running "make distclean" at all?

No. But I did 5 seconds ago and I am now recompiling everything.
Perhaps the problem will not happen again.

> Did you verify that you're really on origin/develop, without any other
> commits or uncommited changes?

Yes yes. I am always on the upstream develop and nothing else.

> The next time that you try this, can you please keep the complete output of
> what each of these "make" commands produces, together with the output of "ls
> -l . local" from $SAGE_ROOT and the contents of config.log and the output of
> "git status" and "git log|head".

The next report I will send here will contain this information, if the
problem occurs again after the full rebuild. The output of the second
'make', however, is usually very long as the command is successful :-)

Thanks,

Nathann

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-01-24 10:04, Nathann Cohen wrote:

At each
new beta I checkout develop and pull the new commits, then run 'make'
and this message happens. If I type 'make' again right after the
message does *not* appear, and the compilation goes on.


So you're not running "make distclean" at all?

Did you verify that you're really on origin/develop, without any other 
commits or uncommited changes?


The next time that you try this, can you please keep the complete output 
of what each of these "make" commands produces, together with the output 
of "ls -l . local" from $SAGE_ROOT and the contents of config.log and 
the output of "git status" and "git log|head".


Jeroen.

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Could you say more precisely *what happened exactly* again.

Do you mean more than what I reported in the first message of this
thread? Nothing changed since that time as far as I can tell. At each
new beta I checkout develop and pull the new commits, then run 'make'
and this message happens. If I type 'make' again right after the
message does *not* appear, and the compilation goes on.

Which is what I did this morning. Right now it is compiling fine.

Nathann

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-01-24 09:17, Nathann Cohen wrote:

It happened again with 7.0.

Running 'make' a second time, as previously, did the job.


Happened again with the latest beta.

Could you say more precisely *what happened exactly* again.

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
> It happened again with 7.0.
>
> Running 'make' a second time, as previously, did the job.

Happened again with the latest beta. I'll do a "make dist-clean",
hoping that it will not happen again later on.

Nathann

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-21 Thread Nathann Cohen

>
> After this double "make" (the first that fails with the message above, 
> the second that works) it is a regular directory. If it happens again 
> I will post here. 
>

It happened again with 7.0.

Running 'make' a second time, as previously, did the job.

Nathann 

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-14 Thread Nathann Cohen
> I guess you mean "make distclean && make" (double ampersand)

I did.

Nathann

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-14 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-01-14 09:15, Volker Braun wrote:

After you run "make distclean & make", is lib64 a symlink? If its not
then its a bug.


I guess you mean "make distclean && make" (double ampersand)

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-14 Thread Nathann Cohen
> If "make distclean" fails then its not going to do anything, duh. Delete
> SAGE_LOCAL by hand or "git clean -f -d -x"

'make distclean' did not fail: only 'make' failed. And I am not stuck:
the first call to 'make' fails with the error reported above, but the
second worked alright and I am now reviewing #19586 :-)

Nathann

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-14 Thread Volker Braun
If "make distclean" fails then its not going to do anything, duh. Delete 
SAGE_LOCAL by hand or "git clean -f -d -x"




On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 9:22:54 AM UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
> > After you run "make distclean & make", is lib64 a symlink? If its not 
> then 
> > its a bug. 
>
> After this double "make" (the first that fails with the message above, 
> the second that works) it is a regular directory. If it happens again 
> I will post here. 
>
> Nathann 
>

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Re: [sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-14 Thread Nathann Cohen
> After you run "make distclean & make", is lib64 a symlink? If its not then
> its a bug.

After this double "make" (the first that fails with the message above,
the second that works) it is a regular directory. If it happens again
I will post here.

Nathann

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[sage-release] Re: error: Cannot perform incremental update

2016-01-14 Thread Volker Braun
After you run "make distclean & make", is lib64 a symlink? If its not then 
its a bug.



On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 7:32:55 AM UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
> Hello everybody, 
>
> For the latest beta releases, each time 'git pull && make' produced 
> the following message: 
>
> ... 
> config.status: /home/ncohen/.Sage/local/lib64 is not a symlink, 
> see Trac #19782 
> config.status: error: Cannot perform incremental update, run "make 
> distclean && make" 
>
> I think I once followed the advice and ran a 'make distclean & make', 
> though I also noticed that running 'make' right after this error lead 
> to a successful compilation. 
>
> My install is not broken in any way that I can tell, but it looked 
> weird to see this 'cannot perform incremental update' message 
> repeatedly (I thought it would only happen 'one time', then work for 
> all subsequent updates) and so I report it. 
>
> Nathann 
>

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