[sage-support] linear map question

2009-05-17 Thread cm

Hi,

I wish to construct a linear map on V corresponding to the field
automorphism theta:

K=GF(2^64,'a')
theta=Hom(K,K)[1]  ## this sends a -- a^2
V=VectorSpace(GF(2),64)

I thought this would be straightforward (unless my maths is wrong),
but I cannot find any functions to help me, and sage will not allow me
a coersion. Can anyone help me on this?

Thanks.

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[sage-support] Re: Why is Sage called a Computer *Algebra* system? What is def of algebra?

2009-05-17 Thread Chris Seberino

On May 17, 11:29 am, john_perry_usm john.pe...@usm.edu wrote:
 I was under the very vague impression that computer algebra systems a
 la Maple, Mathematica etc. were so-called because they started out
 emphasizing algebraic and symbolic manipulation, and so came out of
 the so-called computer algebra community,

Also, can't the limited calculus operations Sage performs be mapped
onto algebra?

I meana computer can't do anything involving infinity except to
treat infinity as just another variable that obeys certain algebraic
rules.

So perhaps symbol manipulation itself, which is what all computer
ultimately do, can be thought of as just algebra?

Chris
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[sage-support] Running sage from another computer on the network

2009-05-17 Thread paul

Ok, for those of you who saw my recent message about the illegal
instruction ... I think I now know why that doesn't work. I think it
is that the latest sse2-3.4.2 virtual machine does not support my
processor (AMD Athlon 64 3000). I don't know why, since this cpu does
support sse2, but perhaps one sse3 instruction is used somewhere and
the Athlon does not support sse3, and thus it crashes. Perhaps someday
support for the Athlon will be added?

Anyway I tried running it on a newer laptop on my network, and it did
indeed start a sage server. When I start firefox on this computer and
go to the suggested address (192.168.175.128) the sage server starts
up and I can execute sage commands. (Yay!!)

I'm wondering though, can I run sage from another computer on my
network? After starting the sage server on the laptop as usual, I
tried typing in 192.168.175.128 in the browser on my desktop computer,
but it just reports that it can't connect. How do I get this to work?
Do I have to make an entry in the Firewall  Virtual servers section
of my router or something like that? Sorry, obviously I'm not a
networking giant :)

~Paul

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[sage-support] Re: Running sage from another computer on the network

2009-05-17 Thread mabshoff



On May 17, 1:24 pm, paul pmen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, for those of you who saw my recent message about the illegal
 instruction ... I think I now know why that doesn't work. I think it
 is that the latest sse2-3.4.2 virtual machine does not support my
 processor (AMD Athlon 64 3000). I don't know why, since this cpu does
 support sse2, but perhaps one sse3 instruction is used somewhere and
 the Athlon does not support sse3, and thus it crashes.

No, the problem is not SSE3, but certain advanced instructions used in
MPIR. This will be fixed in Sage 4.0.

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-support] Re: Running sage from another computer on the network

2009-05-17 Thread Paul Sargent


On 17 May 2009, at 21:24, paul wrote:

 Anyway I tried running it on a newer laptop on my network, and it did
 indeed start a sage server. When I start firefox on this computer and
 go to the suggested address (192.168.175.128) the sage server starts
 up and I can execute sage commands. (Yay!!)

 I'm wondering though, can I run sage from another computer on my
 network? After starting the sage server on the laptop as usual, I
 tried typing in 192.168.175.128 in the browser on my desktop computer,
 but it just reports that it can't connect. How do I get this to work?

This is the VMWare image, right?

Networking and VMWare are a bit weird. I'm not using the player so  
things might be a bit different, but I have options in VMWare to set  
the networking up three ways.

* Host-only : The network can only send/receive to the host OS. No  
other machine can communicate with the guest OS.
* Bridged : The guest OS is effectively plugged straight into the  
network. It'll get an address from the main network. Other machines  
should be able to see it.
* NAT : The guest OS looks like it's behind a NAT-ing router.  
Effectively it always gets the same address whatever network the host  
OS is on. Other machines probably can't see it, but it can see the  
real network.

I expect you want Bridged, but probably are set-up for something else.

 Do I have to make an entry in the Firewall  Virtual servers section
 of my router or something like that?

Firewall on your laptop, or firewall on a router on the network?
If it's on the router, then no, that's only for access outside your  
network.

If we're talking about on the laptop, then I'm not sure. I'd expect  
VMWare (in bridged mode) to bypass the firewall as it's receiving  
packets on a different address to the one the firewall is monitoring,  
but I don't know.

As I said VMWare and networking is a little odd.

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[sage-support] Re: Running sage from another computer on the network

2009-05-17 Thread paul

 This is the VMWare image, right?

Yep.

 options in VMWare to set the networking up three ways.
 * Host-only
 * Bridged
 * NAT
 I expect you want Bridged, but probably are set-up for something else.

Yes, NAT was selected. I tried changing it to Bridged, but then the
sage
server didn't work even on the machine running the sever. Of course
I didn't know if I was supposed to go to the same IP address as
before,
or something different.

~Paul
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[sage-support] Re: Downloading binaries or source to completion

2009-05-17 Thread kilucas



On May 16, 6:12 pm, Paul Sargent psa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Adding a -c flag to wget will make it continue an aborted download if  
 the server will let it. It'll probably still fail but at least you can  
 recover.

Very helpful. I'll give that a go. Thanks. Kevin


 On 17 May 2009, at 01:04, kilucas kevin.lu...@concave.co.uk wrote:





  It took me 6 attempts to retrieve the latest Windows binary from
  across a number of mirrors and I'm now running into the same problem
  trying to retrieve the source of 3.4.2 and 3.4.1 using wget ( I don't
  know how to detect or use mirrors by this method). In all cases the
  download seems to freeze after various periods of time.

  Is there any special trick to getting these downloads to complete
  perhaps or are the mirrors just having a bad week?

  Is there any specific mirror that people find especially reliable
  perhaps?

  Thanks

  Kevin- Hide quoted text -

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[sage-support] Re: newbie wubi ubuntu alternative to using vmware in windows

2009-05-17 Thread merlinson

Well, I did it.  It took a while to get over the feeling of not having
much useful to contribute.  (Which was probably accurate)  But, if
there are some struggling windows users that are helped by it, that
makes it worth it.  It was also a new learning experience.  So
struggling windows users, check it out, lol.

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