[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-04 Thread gsw

Hi all,

after several attempts I was able to produce a Sage-3.4.1dmg the
contents of which are drag-and-droppable, and the issue should not
arise again (knock on wood) for future versions of Sage. Sorry for
that! I expect Sage 3.4.2 to be out before the end of the week, so you
might want to wait for this one. I don't know if the re-made
Sage-3.4.1dmg will make it to the official Sage download page,
poke me if you need it.

Cheers,
gsw
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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-04 Thread mabshoff



On May 4, 4:25 pm, gsw georgswe...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

Hi Georg,

 after several attempts I was able to produce a Sage-3.4.1dmg the
 contents of which are drag-and-droppable, and the issue should not
 arise again (knock on wood) for future versions of Sage.

Well, since it always worked for me AFAIK I am curious what the
problem was.

  Sorry for
 that! I expect Sage 3.4.2 to be out before the end of the week, so you
 might want to wait for this one. I don't know if the re-made
 Sage-3.4.1dmg will make it to the official Sage download page,
 poke me if you need it.

3.4.2 is basically done and the last 3.4.2 tarball + the patch at
#5981 will be it unless we run into some other issue. I am about to
check all my build logs, so we ought to know shortly.

Just ping me if/when you have 10.4 binaries and I will at least
download and drag  drop them this time. Thanks for providing those
since we seem to be lacking 10.4 access, especially on G4 otherwise.

 Cheers,
 gsw

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-03 Thread curious

Mea culpa maxima. The folder /sage/spkg in the .dmg (and its contents)
are uncopyable.
Keepers of the oracle, is something going to be done about this? The
problem is not
present with the intel version.

David Galant

On May 2, 11:15 pm, nickname bru...@fordham.edu wrote:
 Thank you very much! This may have worked. When first started, sage
 complained about not have the folder spkg. In fact, it did not and I
 just added the older one from 3.4. I hope that's OK.

 armand

 On May 2, 3:08 pm, curious davidgal...@gmail.com wrote:

  This problem is just that the folder sage in the dmg cannot be copied.
  However,
  the contents of the folder _can_ be copied, so the solution is to
  create a folder
  somewhere on the machine hard disk (or an external disk) and copy the
  contents
  of the folder sage on the dmg to the new folder.

  David Galant

  On May 2, 9:34 am, curious davidgal...@gmail.com wrote:

   This problem is not unique, I am having the identical problem. No my
   system is not screwed up, nor
   is it anything to to with intel/powerpc mixup. When I click on the
   sage folder in the .dmg file, my cursor
   turns into to the international circle-with-slash. Downloaded several
   times, and tried to drag and copy
   on several flavors of mac. Is there a lock on the contents of
   the .dmg???
   David Galant

   On May 2, 8:25 am, Michael Welsh yom...@yomcat.geek.nz wrote:

Look in Console (in your Utilities Folder - cmd-shift-u). There might  
be something related in there.
On 2/05/2009, at 2:31 PM, nickname wrote:

 When I say I cannot move the sage folder, I mean, it just jumps back
 into the .dmg package with NO complaints or error messages. I have no
 evidence of any problem with my OSX

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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-03 Thread mabshoff



On May 3, 1:01 am, curious davidgal...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi David,

 Mea culpa maxima. The folder /sage/spkg in the .dmg (and its contents)
 are uncopyable.
 Keepers of the oracle, is something going to be done about this? The
 problem is not
 present with the intel version.

Interesting, thanks for tracking this down.

Georg: Since I believe you packaged this version: How could this have
gone wrong? Do you have an updated version that fixes this issue?

 David Galant

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-03 Thread gsw

Hi sage-support,
thanks for reporting this. As was noted in a message above:

 The README.text file includes

  ** WARNING ** If you get an error copying the folder do the
 following:
     Do not drag the the folder out of the dmg image. Use the
     shell (via Terminal) and do a
      cp -R -P /Volumes/sage-2.9.2-OSX10.4-intel-i386-Darwin/sage .
     from the location where you want to install to. Adjust the name of
 the
     Volume as needed.

and I just took that .dmg, opened it, opened a terminal session, cd'ed
to a test directory, and executed the adjusted command (e.g. enter cp
-R -P /Volumes/sage-, use tab completion, then add /sage . at the
end):

cp -R -P /Volumes/sage-3.4.1-OSX10.4-32bit-G4-PowerMacintosh-
PowerMacintosh-Darwin/sage .

and it worked fine. Everything was copied, including the sage/spkg/
content.
Please test this, and report back (whether it has worked, or not),
thank you!

@Michael, Justin:
The Readme.txt has not been updated since sage-2.9.2 (obviously),
but essentially it describes correctly what to do --- at least to me
it was obvious that Adjust the name of the Volume as needed. leads
to the above command, and a working Sage. Since I am a developer,
things obvious to me might not be so obvious to other people ... but
this means I might be the wrong person to try to rephrase the
Readme.txt.
:-)
Thoughts?

I had noticed with this 3.4.1 .dmg that dragging and dropping did
not work. I don't remember exactly with which version, but I had had
another .dmg (not -bdisted by me) with the same problem a while ago.
Since the Readme.txt already adressed this issue, I didn't care
much, guessing this was some familiar Sage/Mac oddity. I'll poke
around a bit nevertheless, if I can manage to create a drag-and-
droppable version.

Cheers,
gsw

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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-02 Thread curious

This problem is not unique, I am having the identical problem. No my
system is not screwed up, nor
is it anything to to with intel/powerpc mixup. When I click on the
sage folder in the .dmg file, my cursor
turns into to the international circle-with-slash. Downloaded several
times, and tried to drag and copy
on several flavors of mac. Is there a lock on the contents of
the .dmg???
David Galant

On May 2, 8:25 am, Michael Welsh yom...@yomcat.geek.nz wrote:
 Look in Console (in your Utilities Folder - cmd-shift-u). There might  
 be something related in there.
 On 2/05/2009, at 2:31 PM, nickname wrote:

  When I say I cannot move the sage folder, I mean, it just jumps back
  into the .dmg package with NO complaints or error messages. I have no
  evidence of any problem with my OSX

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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-02 Thread curious

This problem is just that the folder sage in the dmg cannot be copied.
However,
the contents of the folder _can_ be copied, so the solution is to
create a folder
somewhere on the machine hard disk (or an external disk) and copy the
contents
of the folder sage on the dmg to the new folder.

David Galant

On May 2, 9:34 am, curious davidgal...@gmail.com wrote:
 This problem is not unique, I am having the identical problem. No my
 system is not screwed up, nor
 is it anything to to with intel/powerpc mixup. When I click on the
 sage folder in the .dmg file, my cursor
 turns into to the international circle-with-slash. Downloaded several
 times, and tried to drag and copy
 on several flavors of mac. Is there a lock on the contents of
 the .dmg???
 David Galant

 On May 2, 8:25 am, Michael Welsh yom...@yomcat.geek.nz wrote:

  Look in Console (in your Utilities Folder - cmd-shift-u). There might  
  be something related in there.
  On 2/05/2009, at 2:31 PM, nickname wrote:

   When I say I cannot move the sage folder, I mean, it just jumps back
   into the .dmg package with NO complaints or error messages. I have no
   evidence of any problem with my OSX

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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-02 Thread nickname

Thank you very much! This may have worked. When first started, sage
complained about not have the folder spkg. In fact, it did not and I
just added the older one from 3.4. I hope that's OK.

armand

On May 2, 3:08 pm, curious davidgal...@gmail.com wrote:
 This problem is just that the folder sage in the dmg cannot be copied.
 However,
 the contents of the folder _can_ be copied, so the solution is to
 create a folder
 somewhere on the machine hard disk (or an external disk) and copy the
 contents
 of the folder sage on the dmg to the new folder.

 David Galant

 On May 2, 9:34 am, curious davidgal...@gmail.com wrote:

  This problem is not unique, I am having the identical problem. No my
  system is not screwed up, nor
  is it anything to to with intel/powerpc mixup. When I click on the
  sage folder in the .dmg file, my cursor
  turns into to the international circle-with-slash. Downloaded several
  times, and tried to drag and copy
  on several flavors of mac. Is there a lock on the contents of
  the .dmg???
  David Galant

  On May 2, 8:25 am, Michael Welsh yom...@yomcat.geek.nz wrote:

   Look in Console (in your Utilities Folder - cmd-shift-u). There might  
   be something related in there.
   On 2/05/2009, at 2:31 PM, nickname wrote:

When I say I cannot move the sage folder, I mean, it just jumps back
into the .dmg package with NO complaints or error messages. I have no
evidence of any problem with my OSX

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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-02 Thread Justin Walker


On May 2, 2009, at 12:08 PM, curious wrote:


 This problem is just that the folder sage in the dmg cannot be copied.
 However,
 the contents of the folder _can_ be copied, so the solution is to
 create a folder
 somewhere on the machine hard disk (or an external disk) and copy the
 contents
 of the folder sage on the dmg to the new folder.

I think that the issue is that the .dmg is mounted as a read-only disk  
image.  The intent of the .dmg is to act as a distribution alternative  
to DVDs (so you can download them, instead of waiting for them to  
arrive in the mail :-}).

Justin

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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-01 Thread mabshoff



On May 1, 12:06 pm, nickname bru...@fordham.edu wrote:

Hi,

 I wonder if the new binary  of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4  for MAC G4 is
 correct. or if I am doing something wrong.

I have not verified it to work, but I assume it has been well tested
by the packager. His builds have worked in the past.

 The sage folder in the .dmg  cannot be moved to my User Account as in
 the previous version. According  to the Read-me file, it seems
 possible that it really is an Intel version.

It is still possible. What exactly is the problem you see?

 Please help.

 Thank you

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-01 Thread nickname

As  said in my email, it is not possible to move the sage folder out
of the .dmg container. Also, the only to move this non-working
.dmg into the trash is to force  Finder to quit and restart!

Thank you.


On May 1, 5:02 pm, mabshoff michael.absh...@mathematik.uni-
dortmund.de wrote:
 On May 1, 12:06 pm, nickname bru...@fordham.edu wrote:

 Hi,

  I wonder if the new binary  of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4  for MAC G4 is
  correct. or if I am doing something wrong.

 I have not verified it to work, but I assume it has been well tested
 by the packager. His builds have worked in the past.

  The sage folder in the .dmg  cannot be moved to my User Account as in
  the previous version. According  to the Read-me file, it seems
  possible that it really is an Intel version.

 It is still possible. What exactly is the problem you see?

  Please help.

  Thank you

 Cheers,

 Michael
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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-01 Thread mabshoff



On May 1, 5:42 pm, nickname bru...@fordham.edu wrote:
 As  said in my email, it is not possible to move the sage folder out
 of the .dmg container.

Yes, I read that already. How does that manifest itself? Do you get an
error message? Is the folder not selectable? etc.

  Also, the only to move this non-working
 .dmg into the trash is to force  Finder to quit and restart!

It sounds like your local install of OSX is either broken or the dmg
you downloaded has been corrupted during the download (assuming the
upload worked when placing it on the sever). Have you verified the
md5sum that is posted with the binary right on the download page?

 Thank you.

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-01 Thread nickname

When I say I cannot move the sage folder, I mean, it just jumps back
into the .dmg package with NO complaints or error messages. I have no
evidence of any problem with my OSX
(I downloaded 3.4 about 3 or 4 weeks ago with no problems). I also re-
downloaded both with Firefox and with Safari. Always the same result.

The README.text file includes

 ** WARNING ** If you get an error copying the folder do the
following:
Do not drag the the folder out of the dmg image. Use the
shell (via Terminal) and do a
 cp -R -P /Volumes/sage-2.9.2-OSX10.4-intel-i386-Darwin/sage .
from the location where you want to install to. Adjust the name of
the
Volume as needed.

This is why I think there may be a mix-up, since the G4 is NOT an
Intel machine...

Thanks, Michael,
armand

On May 1, 8:56 pm, mabshoff michael.absh...@mathematik.uni-
dortmund.de wrote:
 On May 1, 5:42 pm, nickname bru...@fordham.edu wrote:

  As  said in my email, it is not possible to move the sage folder out
  of the .dmg container.

 Yes, I read that already. How does that manifest itself? Do you get an
 error message? Is the folder not selectable? etc.

   Also, the only to move this non-working
  .dmg into the trash is to force  Finder to quit and restart!

 It sounds like your local install of OSX is either broken or the dmg
 you downloaded has been corrupted during the download (assuming the
 upload worked when placing it on the sever). Have you verified the
 md5sum that is posted with the binary right on the download page?

  Thank you.

 Cheers,

 Michael
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[sage-support] Re: installing binary of sage-3.4.1 OSX10.4 on G4

2009-05-01 Thread Michael Welsh

Look in Console (in your Utilities Folder - cmd-shift-u). There might  
be something related in there.
On 2/05/2009, at 2:31 PM, nickname wrote:

 When I say I cannot move the sage folder, I mean, it just jumps back
 into the .dmg package with NO complaints or error messages. I have no
 evidence of any problem with my OSX

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http://yomcat.geek.nz


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