[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem with Chrome on Mac
If you update Chrome and the Jmol package in Sage it will work. See this newer thread: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/47046e1c81d75d24 -- Benjamin Jones On Jan 27, 2:29 am, pong wypon...@gmail.com wrote: I just wonder if any one has any success in getting Jmol to run insideChromeon a Mac. If so, please share how :-) It's well known that Java is buggy withChrome(perhaps the new firefox 4 as well) on Mac. On sagenb.org, for example, when I invoke anything that calls Jmol, sage simply complains that Java applet is not enabled. Even though I have already allowed all sites to run Javascripts. I know two more things: 1)Chrome(or Chromium rather) does not have this problem on Linux. 2) It appears thatChrome(on Mac) can run Javascripts on some other sites, for example, I can play Java games with it. Any idea on how to fix this? Thanks in advance. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: jmol problem
My jmol plot at sagenb.org is working for me now: http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/423/ On Apr 3, 11:14 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/3 Timothy Clemans timothy.clem...@gmail.com: I get the same. This historically has been a problem with the public notebook(s). I 100% disagree. This has *not* historically been a problem with the public notebooks. I have used them millions of times with numerous browsers from many places to draw 3d plots using jmol. I just did the same plot on another public notebook server (on the same machine) and it works fine: http://demo2.sagenb.org/home/pub/3/ There is a serious problem with the Linux install (or vmware virtual machine) that currently hosts sagenb.org, which manifest itself about 2 days ago -- for some reason the OS is randomly killing processes. This could be the result of some sort of attack, or just some other problem; I don't know. That's probably what is responsible for your graph at sagenb.org to not work. I'm actually very surprisedhttp://sagenb.orgis working at all. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: jmol problem
On Apr 3, 10:14 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/3 Timothy Clemans timothy.clem...@gmail.com: I get the same. This historically has been a problem with the public notebook(s). I 100% disagree. This has *not* historically been a problem with the public notebooks. I have used them millions of times with numerous browsers from many places to draw 3d plots using jmol. I just did the same plot on another public notebook server (on the same machine) and it works fine: http://demo2.sagenb.org/home/pub/3/ There is a serious problem with the Linux install (or vmware virtual machine) that currently hosts sagenb.org, which manifest itself about 2 days ago -- for some reason the OS is randomly killing processes. This could be the result of some sort of attack, or just some other problem; I don't know. That's probably what is responsible for your graph at sagenb.org to not work. I'm actually very surprisedhttp://sagenb.orgis working at all. One reason for the OS to randomly kill processes is the Linux out-of- memory killer (OOM killer for short). Is there any chance that sagenb.org is running out of RAM? Are there any interesting messages if you log in and type dmesg? Actually, I just realized I could check this for myself, so I did... I don't see anything about the OOM killer, but there is a recurring, strange error message about BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [python:8525]. I don't know what this means, or if it has anything to do with this problem. Carl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: jmol problem
On Apr 4, 3:12 pm, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 3, 10:14 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Actually, I just realized I could check this for myself, so I did... I don't see anything about the OOM killer, but there is a recurring, strange error message about BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [python:8525]. I don't know what this means, or if it has anything to do with this problem. Looks like a bug in the Ubuntu kernel. According to http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2008/08/20/ubuntu-bug-soft-lockup-cpu0-stuck-for-11s/ updating to the latest kernel for 8.04LTS should make this go away. Carl Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: jmol problem
I get the same. This historically has been a problem with the public notebook(s). On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Brian medo...@gmail.com wrote: When I go to this public worksheet, jmol renders as a black screen: http://sagenb.org/home/pub/422/ Here is the output of the Java Console. Java Plug-in 1.6.0_12 Using JRE version 1.6.0_12 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = E:\Documents and Settings\brian c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage o: trigger logging q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system and deployment properties t: dump thread list v: dump thread stack x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to n Jmol applet jmolApplet0__1424380939856034__ destroyed Jmol applet jmolApplet0__1672076516679526__ initializing AppletRegistry.checkIn(jmolApplet0__1672076516679526__) applet context: -applet appletDocumentBase=http://sagenb.org/home/pub/422/ appletCodeBase=http://sagenb.org/java/jmol/ (C) 2008 Jmol Development Jmol Version 11.6.16 2008-11-24 13:39 java.vendor:Sun Microsystems Inc. java.version:1.6.0_12 os.name:Windows XP memory:6.6/7.9 useCommandThread: false appletId:jmolApplet0__1672076516679526__ urlImage=jar:http://sagenb.org/java/jmol/JmolApplet0.jar!/ jmol75x29x8.gif FileManager opening http://sagenb.org/java/jmol/appletweb/SageMenu.mnu defaults = Jmol backgroundColor = black language=en_US FileManager opening http://sagenb.org/home/pub/422/cells/13/sage0-size500.jmol?1238821371 FileManager opening http://sagenb.org/home/pub/422/sage0-size500-117612907.jmol.zip script compiler ERROR: command expected line 1 command 1 of SCRIPT: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN script ERROR: script compiler ERROR: command expected line 1 command 1 of SCRIPT: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN eval ERROR: line 2 command 2 of file /home/pub/422/cells/13/sage0-size500.jmol? 1238821371: script SCRIPT line 1 command 1: script /home/pub/422/cells/13/sage0-size500.jmol? 1238821371 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: jmol problem
2009/4/3 Timothy Clemans timothy.clem...@gmail.com: I get the same. This historically has been a problem with the public notebook(s). I 100% disagree. This has *not* historically been a problem with the public notebooks. I have used them millions of times with numerous browsers from many places to draw 3d plots using jmol. I just did the same plot on another public notebook server (on the same machine) and it works fine: http://demo2.sagenb.org/home/pub/3/ There is a serious problem with the Linux install (or vmware virtual machine) that currently hosts sagenb.org, which manifest itself about 2 days ago -- for some reason the OS is randomly killing processes. This could be the result of some sort of attack, or just some other problem; I don't know. That's probably what is responsible for your graph at sagenb.org to not work. I'm actually very surprised http://sagenb.org is working at all. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
I solved my problem just by reinstalling Firefox. ^^ Thank you anyway! Kwankyu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
Kwankyu wrote: Hi, In my Sage 3.3 notebook on Mac OS 10.5/Firefox 3.07, Jmol 3d graphics are shown as just black rectangles. I know this was a problem that other people experienced. But is it now fixed? If this occurs only to me, how can I fix it? Can you view some demos on the jmol website? http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/animation/ Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
When I try to view the frst demo I get this (and similarly from within Sage) in a yellow fram in the window. You do not have Java applets enabled in your web browser, or your browser is blocking this applet. Check the warning message from your browser and/or enable Java applets in your web browser preferences, or install the Java Runtime Environment from www.java.com In the past I tried several ways to solve this but to no avail: I *do* have Java applets enabled in Firefox, there is no warning message from Firefox, and I have all sorts of version of JRE installed (this is in ubuntu). I just gave up, since I can do without graphics, but it would be nice to know what the problem is. John Cremona 2009/3/7 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com: Kwankyu wrote: Hi, In my Sage 3.3 notebook on Mac OS 10.5/Firefox 3.07, Jmol 3d graphics are shown as just black rectangles. I know this was a problem that other people experienced. But is it now fixed? If this occurs only to me, how can I fix it? Can you view some demos on the jmol website? http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/animation/ Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
John et al, I've been doing without JMOL on 64-bit Ubuntu, since Sun had not made a 64-bit plugin until just recently. VERY inconvenient. ;-) I've had similar frustrations as John with all sorts of JRE's around/ installed. However, I got this new plugin installed last night in about 5 minutes. The instructions might help others on different platforms - the Sun download area has RPM's, etc. Here is the Ubuntu thread, just follow the first poster's instructions modified/adjusted to fit your situation. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011899 Rob On Mar 7, 6:57 am, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to view the frst demo I get this (and similarly from within Sage) in a yellow fram in the window. You do not have Java applets enabled in your web browser, or your browser is blocking this applet. Check the warning message from your browser and/or enable Java applets in your web browser preferences, or install the Java Runtime Environment fromwww.java.com In the past I tried several ways to solve this but to no avail: I *do* have Java applets enabled in Firefox, there is no warning message from Firefox, and I have all sorts of version of JRE installed (this is in ubuntu). I just gave up, since I can do without graphics, but it would be nice to know what the problem is. John Cremona 2009/3/7 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com: Kwankyu wrote: Hi, In my Sage 3.3 notebook on Mac OS 10.5/Firefox 3.07, Jmol 3d graphics are shown as just black rectangles. I know this was a problem that other people experienced. But is it now fixed? If this occurs only to me, how can I fix it? Can you view some demos on the jmol website? http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/animation/ Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
with all sorts of JRE's one possible reason for this problem is the plugin firefox may be using. check by typing about:plugins in the title bar, and make sure it is the plugin you expect (sun's jre) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
That's interesting -- there is no java at all listed in the list of plugins. This is with 32-bit ubuntu. John 2009/3/7 gerhard ge01...@yahoo.de: with all sorts of JRE's one possible reason for this problem is the plugin firefox may be using. check by typing about:plugins in the title bar, and make sure it is the plugin you expect (sun's jre) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
I'd forgotten that about:plugins is so useful. Do you know the Debian/Ubuntu alternatives scheme? Its a way to specify a system-wide default editor, etc. See man update- alternatives On Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 I had to use (as root) update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so You can see the possible alternatives via ls -al /etc/alternatives. The update-alternatives command manages asll these symbolic links. You want to have the xul-runner thing point to a Sun plug in, not an Open JDK or IcedTea or some such thing. You'll probably get some choices. (Presuming you have the right packages installed.) THEN check about:plugins after a restart of Firefox. Good luck. ;-) On Mar 7, 12:43 pm, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: That's interesting -- there is no java at all listed in the list of plugins. This is with 32-bit ubuntu. John 2009/3/7 gerhard ge01...@yahoo.de: with all sorts of JRE's one possible reason for this problem is the plugin firefox may be using. check by typing about:plugins in the title bar, and make sure it is the plugin you expect (sun's jre) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
John Cremona wrote: Thanks for the detailed instructions. I have never heard of xulrunner. Something of that name was installed but I installed a newer (?) version using synaptic. I also used update-alternatives to get java to point to the sun version. Now I have this: j...@ubuntu%sudo update-alternatives --display java java - status is manual. link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java - priority 1061 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz /usr/bin/gij-4.2 - priority 42 slave java.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gij-4.2.1.gz /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java - priority 63 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java. j...@ubuntu%sudo update-alternatives --display xulrunner xulrunner - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 - priority 50 /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner - priority 50 Current `best' version is /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9. I don't know what 'best' means, it still seems to like the look of the open jdk for java. After all this and restarting firefox there is still no mention of java in about:plugins. I find it hard to believe that it is not there since the Preferences setting for jave is enabled and surely there are many other web things which would not work without java (gmail for a start). Gmail almost surely uses javascript, not java, which is different. Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
John, java will point to something to run java programs locally on your machine. I think xulrunner is some Firefox/Mozilla thing. You want a java *plugin* for Firefox. Try the combo deal: update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so and pick the one that looks like it comes from Sun. Rob On Mar 7, 2:22 pm, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the detailed instructions. I have never heard of xulrunner. Something of that name was installed but I installed a newer (?) version using synaptic. I also used update-alternatives to get java to point to the sun version. Now I have this: j...@ubuntu%sudo update-alternatives --display java java - status is manual. link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java - priority 1061 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz /usr/bin/gij-4.2 - priority 42 slave java.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gij-4.2.1.gz /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java - priority 63 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java. j...@ubuntu%sudo update-alternatives --display xulrunner xulrunner - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 - priority 50 /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner - priority 50 Current `best' version is /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9. I don't know what 'best' means, it still seems to like the look of the open jdk for java. After all this and restarting firefox there is still no mention of java in about:plugins. I find it hard to believe that it is not there since the Preferences setting for jave is enabled and surely there are many other web things which would not work without java (gmail for a start). The jmol demo page shows exactly the same message as before. Never mind, John 2009/3/7 Rob Beezer goo...@beezer.cotse.net: I'd forgotten that about:plugins is so useful. Do you know the Debian/Ubuntu alternatives scheme? Its a way to specify a system-wide default editor, etc. See man update- alternatives On Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 I had to use (as root) update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so You can see the possible alternatives via ls -al /etc/alternatives. The update-alternatives command manages asll these symbolic links. You want to have the xul-runner thing point to a Sun plug in, not an Open JDK or IcedTea or some such thing. You'll probably get some choices. (Presuming you have the right packages installed.) THEN check about:plugins after a restart of Firefox. Good luck. ;-) On Mar 7, 12:43 pm, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: That's interesting -- there is no java at all listed in the list of plugins. This is with 32-bit ubuntu. John 2009/3/7 gerhard ge01...@yahoo.de: with all sorts of JRE's one possible reason for this problem is the plugin firefox may be using. check by typing about:plugins in the title bar, and make sure it is the plugin you expect (sun's jre) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
Problem solved. When I did update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so it complained that there was no such alternative. Googling that file name led me to ubuntu forums and hence to the package name sun-java6-plugin, which I did not have installed. So I installed it, restarted firefox, and now it works! I'm sure it is worth putting this information into the FAQ list, even if it only applies to ubuntu machines: for jmol to work you need to have the package sun-java6-plugin installed. thanks for your help, now I can demo Sage's animated 3D graphics to people! John 2009/3/7 Rob Beezer goo...@beezer.cotse.net: John, java will point to something to run java programs locally on your machine. I think xulrunner is some Firefox/Mozilla thing. You want a java *plugin* for Firefox. Try the combo deal: update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so and pick the one that looks like it comes from Sun. Rob On Mar 7, 2:22 pm, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the detailed instructions. I have never heard of xulrunner. Something of that name was installed but I installed a newer (?) version using synaptic. I also used update-alternatives to get java to point to the sun version. Now I have this: j...@ubuntu%sudo update-alternatives --display java java - status is manual. link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java - priority 1061 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz /usr/bin/gij-4.2 - priority 42 slave java.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gij-4.2.1.gz /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java - priority 63 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java. j...@ubuntu%sudo update-alternatives --display xulrunner xulrunner - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 - priority 50 /usr/lib/xulrunner/xulrunner - priority 50 Current `best' version is /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9. I don't know what 'best' means, it still seems to like the look of the open jdk for java. After all this and restarting firefox there is still no mention of java in about:plugins. I find it hard to believe that it is not there since the Preferences setting for jave is enabled and surely there are many other web things which would not work without java (gmail for a start). The jmol demo page shows exactly the same message as before. Never mind, John 2009/3/7 Rob Beezer goo...@beezer.cotse.net: I'd forgotten that about:plugins is so useful. Do you know the Debian/Ubuntu alternatives scheme? Its a way to specify a system-wide default editor, etc. See man update- alternatives On Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 I had to use (as root) update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so You can see the possible alternatives via ls -al /etc/alternatives. The update-alternatives command manages asll these symbolic links. You want to have the xul-runner thing point to a Sun plug in, not an Open JDK or IcedTea or some such thing. You'll probably get some choices. (Presuming you have the right packages installed.) THEN check about:plugins after a restart of Firefox. Good luck. ;-) On Mar 7, 12:43 pm, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: That's interesting -- there is no java at all listed in the list of plugins. This is with 32-bit ubuntu. John 2009/3/7 gerhard ge01...@yahoo.de: with all sorts of JRE's one possible reason for this problem is the plugin firefox may be using. check by typing about:plugins in the title bar, and make sure it is the plugin you expect (sun's jre) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Jmol problem
John, Super! Thanks for the information. Yes, maybe I should add something to the FAQ. Spring break is in a week. ;-) The JMOL applet for the 3D plots is really powerful. Jason Grout and I have been passing worksheets back and forth for the multivariate calculus courses we are teaching and they are *really* enhancing my course. They should all migrate to the Interact/Calculus section of the wiki when we get a chance. But Java is a pain to get working. Right up there with the Flash plugin. Its always the proprietary bits. ;-) Rob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
