[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:12 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:04 AM, David Joyner wrote: >> >> Finally this is on the amazon site: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Sage-tutorial-version-3-4-Group/dp/1442141948/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240843883&sr=8-2 >> >> Hope this link comes out okay via email. >> > > It did. Can you "sign up" and make it so users can look inside and > search inside the book? I think I just did that. > Also, can you allow the book to be sold on kindle devices? This seems to be more complicated. Createspace seems happy to write a check to the Sage Foundation. The dtp.amazon.com site (which handles the kindle setup) wants a checking account for an electronic transfer. The UW Sage Foundation site doesn't have that info. (Maybe that info can be filled out during SD15?) Also, you can request that amazon offer a kindle version on the book webpage. > > William > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:04 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > Finally this is on the amazon site: > > http://www.amazon.com/Sage-tutorial-version-3-4-Group/dp/1442141948/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240843883&sr=8-2 > > Hope this link comes out okay via email. > It did. Can you "sign up" and make it so users can look inside and search inside the book? Also, can you allow the book to be sold on kindle devices? William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
Finally this is on the amazon site: http://www.amazon.com/Sage-tutorial-version-3-4-Group/dp/1442141948/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240843883&sr=8-2 Hope this link comes out okay via email. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM, David Joyner wrote: > Hi: > > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date. > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace, > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33. > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand". > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki > for future reference. > > - David Joyner > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
David Joyner wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:05 AM, William Stein wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > ... > >> Maybe I'm being dumb, but it seems like you haven't provided a link >> anywhere in this email or in the emails quoted below to the actual >> book and cover that you're talking about. > > The interior is exactly the same as the tutorial in pdf, except it has been > shrunken to 8x10 to this link (same one as earlier in the thread): > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/createspace_files > Let me know if you can't access this. > > I wasn't able to download the cover (it's from a template they have and > you get few choices, the mountain template seemed more preferable > than others, which had pictures of flowers or leaves or on them). > I did just now scan it in color and posted the scan there. The bw version > is more accurate. I don't know why my cheapo scanner scans gray to green. > > You can replace the mountain pic in the template with a 4x5 phto but I > was (a) unsure what to choose, (b) thought even if I did pick something > (like a graphic) it would come out looking terrible and be a waste of time and > money, (c) I liked the mountain:-). > A mountain is ... -- solid as a rock -- gigantic (is that a good thing for Sage?) It reminds me of Rainier...that would be cool, being close to Seattle and all. It also looks volcanic (symmetrical, no other mountains around), so maybe it's -- about to burst forth in an exciting display to astound everyone and cover the land (yeah Sage!) And it's pretty. Good choice! Jason -- Jason Grout --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:05 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Joyner wrote: >> ... >> > > Maybe I'm being dumb, but it seems like you haven't provided a link > anywhere in this email or in the emails quoted below to the actual > book and cover that you're talking about. The interior is exactly the same as the tutorial in pdf, except it has been shrunken to 8x10 to this link (same one as earlier in the thread): http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/createspace_files Let me know if you can't access this. I wasn't able to download the cover (it's from a template they have and you get few choices, the mountain template seemed more preferable than others, which had pictures of flowers or leaves or on them). I did just now scan it in color and posted the scan there. The bw version is more accurate. I don't know why my cheapo scanner scans gray to green. You can replace the mountain pic in the template with a 4x5 phto but I was (a) unsure what to choose, (b) thought even if I did pick something (like a graphic) it would come out looking terrible and be a waste of time and money, (c) I liked the mountain:-). > > William > >> ... > > -- > William Stein > Associate Professor of Mathematics > University of Washington > http://wstein.org > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > Finally!! > The process is over and the new tutorial should be on sale at amazon within > 15 days. BTW, I think Sage earns a little more of a royalty if the book is > ordered directly from createspace.com, but not much. > > I had to create a cover using the "easy" option, so it is a different looking > book. It's a gray cover with a snow-covered mountain on it. (If anyone > recognizes the mountain, please let me know.) > > The last steps were > (a) to create cover that their program would accept (my cover using the > "advanced" option and their template was rejected, though it > was basically the same one as last time and I know they are the same > size because I have the old one and the new one right on top of each other > on my desk in front of me), > (b) once the cover+interior was accepted by createspace > to order a proof copy (about $10 including shipping), look it over for > problems, > (c) log into createspace and approve the proof. I had to re-enter the > UW/Sage Foundation tax id (found on > https://secure.gifts.washington.edu/as_mathematics/gift.asp?page=make&Code=MATSAG) > before they let me approve the proof though. > > I personally think it looks really attractive, but probably because I like > mountains and gray:-) > Maybe I'm being dumb, but it seems like you haven't provided a link anywhere in this email or in the emails quoted below to the actual book and cover that you're talking about. William > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, David Joyner wrote: >> Thank you again, I didn't notice that! >> >> I just finished uploading new files. We will see what the program >> says this time in a day or 2 >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, John H Palmieri >> wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, David Joyner wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> Okay, thanks. I just tried this and it didn't seem to work for me. However, the length is now 104 instead of 96. The horizonal line across the bottom above the page number seems to be the same distance from the bottom edge of the paper. The top seems to be the same distance as well. (I assume running make in the .sage/doc/output/latex/en/tutorial directory is the correct way to compile it.) Maybe manual.cls is overriding the margin settings? >>> >>> Maybe it did work. Note that my suggestion actually changes the *size* >>> of the paper, not the margins, so the distance from the line at the >>> bottom to the edge of the paper should be about the same, for example, >>> but each page should hold less. Since the document got longer, maybe >>> this happened for you, too. If I view the pdf in Adobe's acroread on >>> my linux box and ask for the document's properties (from the file >>> menu), it tells me that the page size is 8x10. I thought that this was >>> what you wanted: a document formatted for 8x10 paper. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >> >>> >> > > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
Finally!! The process is over and the new tutorial should be on sale at amazon within 15 days. BTW, I think Sage earns a little more of a royalty if the book is ordered directly from createspace.com, but not much. I had to create a cover using the "easy" option, so it is a different looking book. It's a gray cover with a snow-covered mountain on it. (If anyone recognizes the mountain, please let me know.) The last steps were (a) to create cover that their program would accept (my cover using the "advanced" option and their template was rejected, though it was basically the same one as last time and I know they are the same size because I have the old one and the new one right on top of each other on my desk in front of me), (b) once the cover+interior was accepted by createspace to order a proof copy (about $10 including shipping), look it over for problems, (c) log into createspace and approve the proof. I had to re-enter the UW/Sage Foundation tax id (found on https://secure.gifts.washington.edu/as_mathematics/gift.asp?page=make&Code=MATSAG) before they let me approve the proof though. I personally think it looks really attractive, but probably because I like mountains and gray:-) On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, David Joyner wrote: > Thank you again, I didn't notice that! > > I just finished uploading new files. We will see what the program > says this time in a day or 2 > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: >> >> On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, David Joyner wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> Okay, thanks. I just tried this and it didn't seem to work for me. >>> However, the length is now 104 instead of 96. The horizonal line >>> across the bottom above the page number seems to be the same distance >>> from the bottom edge of the paper. The top seems to be the same >>> distance as well. (I assume running make in the >>> .sage/doc/output/latex/en/tutorial >>> directory is the correct way to compile it.) Maybe manual.cls is >>> overriding the margin settings? >> >> Maybe it did work. Note that my suggestion actually changes the *size* >> of the paper, not the margins, so the distance from the line at the >> bottom to the edge of the paper should be about the same, for example, >> but each page should hold less. Since the document got longer, maybe >> this happened for you, too. If I view the pdf in Adobe's acroread on >> my linux box and ask for the document's properties (from the file >> menu), it tells me that the page size is 8x10. I thought that this was >> what you wanted: a document formatted for 8x10 paper. >> >> John >> >> >> >> > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
Thank you again, I didn't notice that! I just finished uploading new files. We will see what the program says this time in a day or 2 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, David Joyner wrote: > > [snip] > >> Okay, thanks. I just tried this and it didn't seem to work for me. >> However, the length is now 104 instead of 96. The horizonal line >> across the bottom above the page number seems to be the same distance >> from the bottom edge of the paper. The top seems to be the same >> distance as well. (I assume running make in the >> .sage/doc/output/latex/en/tutorial >> directory is the correct way to compile it.) Maybe manual.cls is >> overriding the margin settings? > > Maybe it did work. Note that my suggestion actually changes the *size* > of the paper, not the margins, so the distance from the line at the > bottom to the edge of the paper should be about the same, for example, > but each page should hold less. Since the document got longer, maybe > this happened for you, too. If I view the pdf in Adobe's acroread on > my linux box and ask for the document's properties (from the file > menu), it tells me that the page size is 8x10. I thought that this was > what you wanted: a document formatted for 8x10 paper. > > John > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, David Joyner wrote: [snip] > Okay, thanks. I just tried this and it didn't seem to work for me. > However, the length is now 104 instead of 96. The horizonal line > across the bottom above the page number seems to be the same distance > from the bottom edge of the paper. The top seems to be the same > distance as well. (I assume running make in the > .sage/doc/output/latex/en/tutorial > directory is the correct way to compile it.) Maybe manual.cls is > overriding the margin settings? Maybe it did work. Note that my suggestion actually changes the *size* of the paper, not the margins, so the distance from the line at the bottom to the edge of the paper should be about the same, for example, but each page should hold less. Since the document got longer, maybe this happened for you, too. If I view the pdf in Adobe's acroread on my linux box and ask for the document's properties (from the file menu), it tells me that the page size is 8x10. I thought that this was what you wanted: a document formatted for 8x10 paper. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:41 PM, John H Palmieri wrote:
>
> On Apr 7, 12:11 pm, David Joyner wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:59 AM, John H Palmieri
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > This may be overkill, but the manual documentclass sets some options
>> > and then passes everything else to report.cls. So you can make a copy
>> > of report.cls, say in
>>
>> Do you mean manual.cls?
>
> No, I meant report.cls. There should already be a file manual.cls in
> that directory, which calls your system's version of report.cls (from
> $SOMEWHERE/tex/latex/base/report.cls). In report.cls, there are lots
> of snippets like the one I wrote, e.g.
>
> \DeclareOption{executivepaper}
> {\setlength\paperheight {10.5in}%
> \setlength\paperwidth {7.25in}}
>
> Copy report.cls to the same directory as the tutorial latex file. In
> that copy, add these lines right after the above snippet:
>
> \DeclareOption{createspace}
> {\setlength\paperheight {10in}%
> \setlength\paperwidth {8in}}
>
> and use this in the latex file for the tutorial:
>
> \documentclass[createspace,10pt,english]{manual}
Okay, thanks. I just tried this and it didn't seem to work for me.
However, the length is now 104 instead of 96. The horizonal line
across the bottom above the page number seems to be the same distance
from the bottom edge of the paper. The top seems to be the same
distance as well. (I assume running make in the
.sage/doc/output/latex/en/tutorial
directory is the correct way to compile it.) Maybe manual.cls is
overriding the margin settings?
>
> >
>
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[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Apr 7, 12:11 pm, David Joyner wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:59 AM, John H Palmieri
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This may be overkill, but the manual documentclass sets some options
> > and then passes everything else to report.cls. So you can make a copy
> > of report.cls, say in
>
> Do you mean manual.cls?
No, I meant report.cls. There should already be a file manual.cls in
that directory, which calls your system's version of report.cls (from
$SOMEWHERE/tex/latex/base/report.cls). In report.cls, there are lots
of snippets like the one I wrote, e.g.
\DeclareOption{executivepaper}
{\setlength\paperheight {10.5in}%
\setlength\paperwidth {7.25in}}
Copy report.cls to the same directory as the tutorial latex file. In
that copy, add these lines right after the above snippet:
\DeclareOption{createspace}
{\setlength\paperheight {10in}%
\setlength\paperwidth {8in}}
and use this in the latex file for the tutorial:
\documentclass[createspace,10pt,english]{manual}
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[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:59 AM, John H Palmieri wrote:
>
...
>
> This may be overkill, but the manual documentclass sets some options
> and then passes everything else to report.cls. So you can make a copy
> of report.cls, say in
Do you mean manual.cls?
>
> SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/output/latex/en/tutorial
>
> adding in lines
>
> \DeclareOption{createspace}
> {\setlength\paperheight {10in}%
> \setlength\paperwidth {8in}}
>
> Then at the top of SageTutorial.tex, use
>
> \documentclass[createspace,10pt,english]{manual}
This didn't seem to work for me.
As predicted, the second submission was rejected for (among
other things) size reasons.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
...
> >
>
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[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Apr 5, 5:29 pm, David Joyner wrote:
> box on page 59. One error message was that the "interior" pdf was
> formatted for 8.5x11 and it must be 8x10. With the old latex file, I could
> adjust the page margins using
>
> \setlength{\paperwidth}{10in}
> \setlength{\paperheight}{8in}
> or
> \setlength{\topmargin}{1in}
This may be overkill, but the manual documentclass sets some options
and then passes everything else to report.cls. So you can make a copy
of report.cls, say in
SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/output/latex/en/tutorial
adding in lines
\DeclareOption{createspace}
{\setlength\paperheight {10in}%
\setlength\paperwidth {8in}}
Then at the top of SageTutorial.tex, use
\documentclass[createspace,10pt,english]{manual}
John
>
> or something. With this new format, these command render the pdf file
> virtually unreadable.
>
> 4. I can look at this more Tuesday. Also, while writing this, Minh posted to
> this thread, so I will wait until he has done whatever he wants to do fisrt.
> However, if any one knows how to "intelligently" widen the margins
> of the current tutorial (thereby increasing the page count from 96 to
> something >96), please let me know!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM, David Joyner wrote:
> > Hi:
>
> > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date.
> > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace,
> > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based
> > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull
> > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate
> > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33.
> > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex
> > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand".
> > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to
> > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get
> > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember
> > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki
> > for future reference.
>
> > - David Joyner
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[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
Hi David, On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:29 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > 4. I can look at this more Tuesday. Also, while writing this, Minh posted to > this thread, so I will wait until he has done whatever he wants to do fisrt. I just skimmed through the Sage tutorial to get some ideas on sections to update, or more materials to add. I've finished the skimming; that's it :-) > However, if any one knows how to "intelligently" widen the margins > of the current tutorial (thereby increasing the page count from 96 to > something >96), please let me know! -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
This is just a summary of my progress (or lack thereof) on
updating the sage tutorial on amazon. I also said I'd make a wiki page
but since it is so simple, I thought I'd just sketch the instructions here.
First, you need to create a "8x10" pdf with no overfull boxes and
a cover. I placed the SageTutorial.pdf and a cover (basically
made by Robert Bradshaw but with some modifications) here:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/createspace_files
There is a readme.txt file there which hopefully helps some.
1. Go to createspace.com and create an account. The only
possibly tricky aspect is to make sure they do not pay you but
send the royalties directly to the Sage Foundation. It's been awhile but
I think you have to get the 503(c) tax code from William Stein.
You only have to do this once.
2. Follow the instructions on creating a book project. You have to
click on a box at some point to tell createspace to sell your book on
amazon (who owns createspace). The "easy" cover maker did not
work for me (in linux) so I selected "advanced". In any case, the
instructions are really detailed on the website. Basically you fill out
some of the book details (see the readme.txt file), upload the pdfs
and then submit.
3. With the files above, the createspace program rejected
the updated tutorial. (It takes about a day or so to get a decision.)
Although I just did some minor modifications (removing
the "overfull box" on page 59) and resubmitted, I'm pretty
sure it will be rejected again. I just wanted to be 100% sure that the
vaguely worded rejection wasn't triggered simply by the overfull
box on page 59. One error message was that the "interior" pdf was
formatted for 8.5x11 and it must be 8x10. With the old latex file, I could
adjust the page margins using
\setlength{\paperwidth}{10in}
\setlength{\paperheight}{8in}
or
\setlength{\topmargin}{1in}
or something. With this new format, these command render the pdf file
virtually unreadable.
4. I can look at this more Tuesday. Also, while writing this, Minh posted to
this thread, so I will wait until he has done whatever he wants to do fisrt.
However, if any one knows how to "intelligently" widen the margins
of the current tutorial (thereby increasing the page count from 96 to
something >96), please let me know!
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM, David Joyner wrote:
> Hi:
>
> The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date.
> Amazon requires the online publisher createspace,
> which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based
> program to process the manuscript. Any overfull
> box, if memory serves, will create an immediate
> rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33.
> I have in the past just fiddled with the latex
> file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand".
> If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to
> update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get
> started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember
> to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki
> for future reference.
>
> - David Joyner
>
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[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
Hi David, On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM, David Joyner wrote: > > Hi: > > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date. > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace, > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33. > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand". > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki > for future reference. I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I'll go through the tutorial in detail during this week and update it wherever I can. In that case, is it possible for us, or folks who'll be updating the tutorial, to synchronize the update patches? Say via a common trac ticket I assume? -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
Wow, the latest tutorial (3.4) at least has more info on how to use dSage! Thanx, A. Jorge Garcia calcp...@aol.com http://calcpage.tripod.com Teacher & Professor Applied Mathematics, Physics & Computer Science Baldwin Senior High School & Nassau Community College In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:10:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wst...@gmail.com writes: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/tmp/docs/ **New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
The only one I've found so far is on page 59. I'm guessing verbatim environments surpress the overfull box errors during compilation. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:34 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Apr 2, 10:09 am, William Stein wrote: ... >> >> > "sage -docbuild tutorial pdf" >> >> Nice. Here are links to the output of that. It looks very good and >> doesn't appear to have any text outside the margin to me. > > I think that's right. I didn't see any "overfull hbox" errors, for > example. > > John > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Apr 2, 10:09 am, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:45 AM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 2, 8:39 am, William Stein wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:37 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > >> > Hi: > > >> > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date. > >> > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace, > >> > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based > >> > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull > >> > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate > >> > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33. > >> > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex > >> > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand". > >> > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to > >> > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get > >> > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember > >> > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki > >> > for future reference. > > >> The tutorial is not a latex document anymore. It's an entirely > >> different Sphinx document that can output pdf. As far as I know there > >> is currently no pdf version of the tutorial, > > > "sage -docbuild tutorial pdf" > > Nice. Here are links to the output of that. It looks very good and > doesn't appear to have any text outside the margin to me. I think that's right. I didn't see any "overfull hbox" errors, for example. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:45 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Apr 2, 8:39 am, William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:37 AM, David Joyner wrote: >> >> > Hi: >> >> > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date. >> > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace, >> > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based >> > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull >> > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate >> > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33. >> > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex >> > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand". >> > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to >> > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get >> > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember >> > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki >> > for future reference. >> >> The tutorial is not a latex document anymore. It's an entirely >> different Sphinx document that can output pdf. As far as I know there >> is currently no pdf version of the tutorial, > > "sage -docbuild tutorial pdf" Nice. Here are links to the output of that. It looks very good and doesn't appear to have any text outside the margin to me. I ran the above on each document and put them all here for people to see: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/tmp/docs/ Harald -- it would be nice if this were available on sagemath.org. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
Thanks John and William. The command sage -docbuild tutorial pdf generated all I think I need. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:45 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Apr 2, 8:39 am, William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:37 AM, David Joyner wrote: >> >> > Hi: >> >> > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date. >> > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace, >> > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based >> > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull >> > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate >> > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33. >> > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex >> > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand". >> > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to >> > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get >> > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember >> > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki >> > for future reference. >> >> The tutorial is not a latex document anymore. It's an entirely >> different Sphinx document that can output pdf. As far as I know there >> is currently no pdf version of the tutorial, > > "sage -docbuild tutorial pdf" > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Apr 2, 8:39 am, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:37 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > > Hi: > > > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date. > > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace, > > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based > > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull > > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate > > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33. > > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex > > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand". > > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to > > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get > > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember > > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki > > for future reference. > > The tutorial is not a latex document anymore. It's an entirely > different Sphinx document that can output pdf. As far as I know there > is currently no pdf version of the tutorial, "sage -docbuild tutorial pdf" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: sage tutorial on amazon
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:37 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > Hi: > > The Sage tutorial on amazon is a bit out of date. > Amazon requires the online publisher createspace, > which uses an extremely finiky automated web-based > program to process the manuscript. Any overfull > box, if memory serves, will create an immediate > rejection. There is an overfull box on page 33. > I have in the past just fiddled with the latex > file and remove any overfull boxes "by hand". > If no one objects to this twieeking, or volunteers to > update the tutorial themselves, I'll probably get > started on that this weekend. Also, I'll try to remember > to make detailed notes and post them on the wiki > for future reference. > The tutorial is not a latex document anymore. It's an entirely different Sphinx document that can output pdf. As far as I know there is currently no pdf version of the tutorial, but one easily from the Sphinx document (I saw some early versions that Mike Hansen produced). William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
