Re: South park

1999-10-01 Thread Andrew Collier
I can't decide if the parents aren't aware of what the kids are watching, or
if they do know and just don't care... either way, it worries me.

My son, Simon, is 9 and has only recently got a tv in his bedroom (thanks to
his grandparents). We have an agreement that he can only watch things he
would normally watch on the tv downstairs - kids tv, football, etc - and
when his friends come round they leave the door open while they're viewing;
that way I know he's not being persuaded to put something unsuitable on.

What I don't understand is why the press and the government doesn't hype
the problem out of all reasonable proportion. Contrast it with most
newspapers' attitude to the internet - how can we protect our innocent
children from this tidal wave of obscenity being delivered direct into
their bedrooms?

The way I see it, what you'll find on the web and usenet represents a
fairly accurate cross-section of the world at large - warts 'n all - and
that parents should take at least as much responsibility over what their
children access as they would over letting them watch 18-rated films, or
letting them browse the top shelf at a local newsagent or whatever.

But a lot of parents seem not to. Which is bizarre, because apart from
anything else, I'm amazed they're unconcerned about paying the phone bill...

Andrew

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Re: South park

1999-10-01 Thread James R Curry
 
 What I don't understand is why the press and the government doesn't hype
 the problem out of all reasonable proportion. Contrast it with most
 newspapers' attitude to the internet - how can we protect our innocent
 children from this tidal wave of obscenity being delivered direct into
 their bedrooms?
 
 The way I see it, what you'll find on the web and usenet represents a
 fairly accurate cross-section of the world at large - warts 'n all - and
 that parents should take at least as much responsibility over what their
 children access as they would over letting them watch 18-rated films, or
 letting them browse the top shelf at a local newsagent or whatever.
 
 But a lot of parents seem not to. Which is bizarre, because apart from
 anything else, I'm amazed they're unconcerned about paying the phone bill...

Thank you Andrew, for mirroring my sentiments exactly.  :)
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Re: South park

1999-10-01 Thread Simon Cooke
 The way I see it, what you'll find on the web and usenet represents a
 fairly accurate cross-section of the world at large - warts 'n all - and
 that parents should take at least as much responsibility over what their
 children access as they would over letting them watch 18-rated films, or
 letting them browse the top shelf at a local newsagent or whatever.

 But a lot of parents seem not to. Which is bizarre, because apart from
 anything else, I'm amazed they're unconcerned about paying the phone
bill...

http://home.earthlink.net/~simoncooke/magazines/rumour.html

:)

Simon



Re: South park

1999-09-30 Thread Aley Keprt

Although Southpark is funny, I think it should be prohibited.
There are too many bad threads, especially for children (children
like every cartoons, especially when they consist of many words
like sh*t, f*ck, b**ch etc.)
And there is to much rasism, anti-semitism, nationalism,
and all other isms's (even more than I know)
they're against Jews, B.Streisand, and I don't
know whatever.?

...but many people consider it funny...


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RE: South park

1999-09-30 Thread Justin Skists
The reason it's so great is that it takes the P out of EVERYONE. How
can it be racist (or any other '-ist') if it isn't concentrating on one
particular group of people???

 -Original Message-
 From: Aley Keprt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 2:23 PM
 To:   sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
 Subject:  Re: South park
 
 
 Although Southpark is funny, I think it should be prohibited.
 There are too many bad threads, especially for children (children
 like every cartoons, especially when they consist of many words
 like sh*t, f*ck, b**ch etc.)
 And there is to much rasism, anti-semitism, nationalism,
 and all other isms's (even more than I know)
 they're against Jews, B.Streisand, and I don't
 know whatever.?
 
 ...but many people consider it funny...
 
 
 Aley [eili] Keprt - student, programmer (multimedia soft. etc.)
 phone: +420-68-538 70 35
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ***  http://get.to/aley
 


Re: South park

1999-09-30 Thread Simon Cooke
 Although Southpark is funny, I think it should be prohibited.
 There are too many bad threads, especially for children (children
 like every cartoons, especially when they consist of many words
 like sh*t, f*ck, b**ch etc.)
 And there is to much rasism, anti-semitism, nationalism,
 and all other isms's (even more than I know)
 they're against Jews, B.Streisand, and I don't
 know whatever.?

Actually, they're mainly against political correctness, censorship, and
people not taking responsibility for their actions and their kids. :)

(They also indulge in a lot of shock-value stuff ... and IIRC, one of Parker
 Stone is jewish, the other is catholic - thus a lot of the jokes come from
that).

Interestingly, in the UK (AFAIK) and the US, the swear-words are bleeped
out. In Australia, they're not.

But no, definitely not for kids. 14 and up, maybe. Maybe 16 and over.

Simon



RE: South park

1999-09-30 Thread Justin Skists
Interestingly, in the UK (AFAIK) and the US, the swear-words are bleeped
out. In Australia, they're not.

Yep.. bleep in UK...

Actually, that's one of the jokes I thought existed in the film.

You know the Terrence and Phillip film they showed and they said the
first f**k? And it wasn't bleeped? The kids all gasped and looked
shocked in the film


But no, definitely not for kids. 14 and up, maybe. Maybe 16 and over.

Definitely! 

justin


Re: South park

1999-09-30 Thread James R Curry

 Although Southpark is funny, I think it should be prohibited.
 There are too many bad threads, especially for children (children
 like every cartoons, especially when they consist of many words
 like sh*t, f*ck, b**ch etc.)

Someone lets their kids watch a show that's on TV at 11 o'clock at 
night and then complains about the suitability.

It's not the TV networks responsibility to soften everything for 
children's eyes when it's designed for adults, shown at such an hour 
and run with a disclaimer.

The burden here should be upon the parents and the second people 
realise this and stop blaming the worlds problems on faceless 
executives at TV networks, the better.  Hell, if it were on at 6pm, 
I'd agree with you, but as it stands there is no responsible parent 
on Earth who would let their children watch such a show.  If it's on 
after the watershed, they should carefully screen it before letting 
their kids.

Sorry Aley, but it's not TVs job to make up for a parent's 
incompetence.

 And there is to much rasism, anti-semitism, nationalism,
 and all other isms's (even more than I know)
 they're against Jews, B.Streisand, and I don't
 know whatever.?
 
 ...but many people consider it funny...
 
 
 Aley [eili] Keprt - student, programmer (multimedia soft. etc.)
 phone: +420-68-538 70 35
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ***  http://get.to/aley
 
 


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Re: South park

1999-09-30 Thread Maria Rookyard
I can't decide if the parents aren't aware of what the kids are watching, or
if they do know and just don't care... either way, it worries me.

My son, Simon, is 9 and has only recently got a tv in his bedroom (thanks to
his grandparents). We have an agreement that he can only watch things he
would normally watch on the tv downstairs - kids tv, football, etc - and
when his friends come round they leave the door open while they're viewing;
that way I know he's not being persuaded to put something unsuitable on.

Also, if I video anything unsuitable for family viewing I keep the tape
out of harms way, watch it when Simon isn't around, then record over it
again afterwards. It might be a little excessive, but personally I'm happier
erring on the side of caution. Of course, once he grows up, it'll be up to
him what he watches, but for now I choose to take responsibility for my
child's viewing.

Moving on slightly - this week we had a bomb scare and the centre of town
was cordoned off for several hours while a suspect device was made safe...
fortunately there were no casualties, and no damage except to the phone box
it was placed in. One 10 year old actually told me it would've been cool if
it had exploded and killed people! I found myself wondering what sort of
programmes *he* watches?

Maria.
(it's o.k., I'm getting back down off the soapbox now)


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From: James R Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Date: 30 September 1999 18:05
Subject: Re: South park



 Although Southpark is funny, I think it should be prohibited.
 There are too many bad threads, especially for children (children
 like every cartoons, especially when they consist of many words
 like sh*t, f*ck, b**ch etc.)

Someone lets their kids watch a show that's on TV at 11 o'clock at
night and then complains about the suitability.

It's not the TV networks responsibility to soften everything for
children's eyes when it's designed for adults, shown at such an hour
and run with a disclaimer.

The burden here should be upon the parents and the second people
realise this and stop blaming the worlds problems on faceless
executives at TV networks, the better.  Hell, if it were on at 6pm,
I'd agree with you, but as it stands there is no responsible parent
on Earth who would let their children watch such a show.  If it's on
after the watershed, they should carefully screen it before letting
their kids.

Sorry Aley, but it's not TVs job to make up for a parent's
incompetence.

 And there is to much rasism, anti-semitism, nationalism,
 and all other isms's (even more than I know)
 they're against Jews, B.Streisand, and I don't
 know whatever.?

 ...but many people consider it funny...






South park

1999-09-29 Thread Maria Rookyard
So it's not just me that disagrees with all the 7 year olds at school who
insist it's a kids programme just because it's a cartoon?

Maria.





Re: South park

1999-09-29 Thread Gordon Wallis
Maria Rookyard wrote:
 
 So it's not just me that disagrees with all the 7 year olds at school who
 insist it's a kids programme just because it's a cartoon?
 
You're 7 years old?!?

Seriously: Not by a long chalk. For my money, loads of cartoons are
wasted on kids. Considering how effed up the Warner Bros. Batman
franchise is, the cartoons are a godsend, and should never have been
watered down after the first series... (mumble grumble).

Then there's the Japanese cartoons: sex (including tentacle rape),
drugs, violence... Ok, there's a few cute ones, and the irritating
moralistic ones (not to mention the twee American dubs of the cute
ones), but on the whole, the cartoons are's for children.

The parents of these seven-year-olds should be clubbed to death. (ooh,
reactionary!)

Gord.

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Re: South park

1999-09-29 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick


Maria Rookyard wrote:
 
 So it's not just me that disagrees with all the 7 year olds at school who
 insist it's a kids programme just because it's a cartoon?

What about akira or manga or whatever its called... (nope, like the
playstation, ive never seen *this* either... I like such a sheltered
life)..  thats hardly kiddy-corner is it?

Fitz

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Re: South park

1999-09-29 Thread Robert van der Veeke
- Original Message -
From: Gordon Wallis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: South park

 Then there's the Japanese cartoons: sex (including tentacle rape),
 drugs, violence... Ok, there's a few cute ones, and the irritating
 moralistic ones (not to mention the twee American dubs of the cute
 ones), but on the whole, the cartoons are's for children.

Takes out a large mallet from the so called hammer-space and starting to
hit Gordon

Sigh they never learn, why do they always have to learn it the hard way?
Its Anime, not cartoons, cartoons that's the shite you get from the States.

 The parents of these seven-year-olds should be clubbed to death. (ooh,
 reactionary!)

Mmmm at least a point we can agree on ^_^

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Re: South park

1999-09-29 Thread James R Curry

 So it's not just me that disagrees with all the 7 year olds at school who
 insist it's a kids programme just because it's a cartoon?
 
 Maria.

Far more disturbing are adults who make that conclusion.
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