[Samba] Calculating file size.

2003-06-18 Thread David Gilligan, Nyfix O'seas, Inc.
Hello!
As it happens I am having some real nightmares with this too.

Using NETGEAR ND520 NAS devices [Yes! I know - rod for own back...]
But the fact it is a Linux device sold me ahead of a W2K Appliance

Win2K reports:

Folder #1
19,969 Files, 1578 folders
Size: 2.36Gb
S-O-D: 11.3Gb
Notes: This is a user's 'Home Drive' Lots of disparate files  Directories

Folder #2
15,151 Files, 595 folders
Size: 292Mb
S-O-D: 7.54Gb
Notes: As above

Folder #3

114 Files, 1 folder
Size: 857Mb
S-O-D: 895Mb
Notes: JAVA developer's archive - all but one are ZIP files



Sure, I'll be obseleting these NAS soon but my plan was to build a custom
Linux Samba server to handle the task.  Now I'm not so sure

-DG

IT Manager
ISV

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Re: [Samba] Calculating file size.

2003-06-18 Thread José Luis Tallón
At 17:13 18/06/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hello!
As it happens I am having some real nightmares with this too.
Using NETGEAR ND520 NAS devices [Yes! I know - rod for own back...]
But the fact it is a Linux device sold me ahead of a W2K Appliance
[snip]
If those S-O-D figures are real ( I mean, W2K is not making them up ), 
you'd rather use ReiserFS for your Linux Samba server -- it would save you 
*tons* of disk

Sure, I'll be obseleting these NAS soon but my plan was to build a custom
Linux Samba server to handle the task.  Now I'm not so sure
Why ?


-DG

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ISV
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RE: [Samba] Calculating file size.

2003-06-18 Thread David Gilligan, Nyfix O'seas, Inc.
OK.  Maybe the 'not-so-sure' was a bit provocative on this list. G

As I can't afford a 'Filer', Samba is ~obviously~ my best option.

WinXP reports the same figures though - maybe the answer is another DLT
drive direct onto the (New-Improved!) Samba box; rather than mapping drives
to the W2K backup server.

Nevertheless, the sizes can't be *real* - according to the stats my drive is
3 times bigger than it was when I bought it!
Point taken on the journaling FS.  Can anyone compare small file performance
between RH ext3 and ReiserFS?

Made me think - thanks for the input

-DG


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 At 17:13 18/06/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 Hello!
 As it happens I am having some real nightmares with this too.
 
 Using NETGEAR ND520 NAS devices [Yes! I know - rod for own back...]
 But the fact it is a Linux device sold me ahead of a W2K Appliance
 
 [snip]

 If those S-O-D figures are real ( I mean, W2K is not making them up ),
 you'd rather use ReiserFS for your Linux Samba server -- it would
 save you
 *tons* of disk

 Sure, I'll be obseleting these NAS soon but my plan was to build a custom
 Linux Samba server to handle the task.  Now I'm not so sure

 Why ?


 -DG
 
 IT Manager
 ISV
 
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[Samba] Calculating file size.

2003-02-13 Thread Jason C. Leach
hi,

Here's an interesting one...

If I view the files on my Samba server, the file size is reported
differently depending on if I'm looking from WinXX or Win2k.

That is, if I do a 'properties' on a file with Windows ME for instance, I
see 'Size' and 'Size on Disk' numbers that seem reasonable.  Size on Disk is
slightly larger which seems reasonable.  But if I look from Win2k, the Size
on Disk is huge!  A 30KB file will show up that way in the Size entry, but
be 1MB in the Size on Disk entry.  I wondered if this could be because
Windows thinks samba is an NTFS server, but I note that even looking at
local files in Win2K on FAT32 shows this sort of discrepancy.

I had never noticed this until today when a list member asked me about why
his tape backups of the samba shares were filling the tape s quickly.  I
don't have the problem running the same tape drive from ME, but he's using
2k and going through tape like there's no tomorrow.  So I'm guessing that
the tape software is using the 'Size on Disk' information as it calculates
what space is left on the tape.

Can anyone shed light on this and suggest a solution?




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Re: [Samba] Calculating file size.

2003-02-13 Thread jra
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:55:29PM -0800, Jason C. Leach wrote:
 hi,
 
 Here's an interesting one...
 
 If I view the files on my Samba server, the file size is reported
 differently depending on if I'm looking from WinXX or Win2k.
 
 That is, if I do a 'properties' on a file with Windows ME for instance, I
 see 'Size' and 'Size on Disk' numbers that seem reasonable.  Size on Disk is
 slightly larger which seems reasonable.  But if I look from Win2k, the Size
 on Disk is huge!  A 30KB file will show up that way in the Size entry, but
 be 1MB in the Size on Disk entry.  I wondered if this could be because
 Windows thinks samba is an NTFS server, but I note that even looking at
 local files in Win2K on FAT32 shows this sort of discrepancy.
 
 I had never noticed this until today when a list member asked me about why
 his tape backups of the samba shares were filling the tape s quickly.  I
 don't have the problem running the same tape drive from ME, but he's using
 2k and going through tape like there's no tomorrow.  So I'm guessing that
 the tape software is using the 'Size on Disk' information as it calculates
 what space is left on the tape.
 
 Can anyone shed light on this and suggest a solution?

Actully, this is my fault. Samba lies on a WNT/W2K size on disk
query because someone at a NAS company noticed the WNT/2k use more
efficient read transfers (I think it was) if this size is large.
The tape backup software can't actually read this extra data so
I don't know why it's using the size on disk to allocate blocks.

You can change this be modifying the value in include/local.h

/* Allocation roundup. */
#define SMB_ROUNDUP_ALLOCATION_SIZE 0x10

to a smaller value and recompiling. It hasn't caused trouble enough
to become a runtime parameter.

Jeremy.
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