Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
Petre Bandac schrieb: hallo I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company (~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place, from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain controller can retrieve information from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some links (I already have googled around and found several sources from where I am reading right now) I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain logon I would say MySQL is not an "officially recommended" way of storing Samba users. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://blog.wpkg.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
> > I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have > > only an username and password instead one for each application and > > system they use. > that is exactly what I want to do; so, using ldap, I can have the same > user/pass for both domain and mailbox > based on your experience, which would fit better with postfix/courier > and samba ? Using LDAP is standard for most applications and well supported; information on LDAP integration is plentiful; Postfix has supported LDAP for a long time and a standard SASL build supports LDAP. Using something like MySQL for auth/ident is hackish and very non-standard; you'd be creating a site specific solution. It is important to think about what happens if someone needs to come in and work in your environment. LDAP is common and well understood, people expect LDAP in anything but the smallest networks. > > There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and > > centralization. Others will prefer MySQL. > >>> I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and > >>> system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for > >>> nis, postfix, qmail, and so on. > >> Don't put all your eggs into one basket ... Yes, do. One basket is EXACTLY what you want. We use LDAP for ident (NSS & SAMBA) & authentication (mainly via PAM, SASL, & Samba), DHCP, DNS, mail routing, IM groups, user preferences, and lots of other things. It is a major labor savings to have ONE store for all this information that can all be managed by a very well supported and standard protocol (LDAP). Whether you want to use Perl, Python, C#, Java, PHP, etc... you can access your data - no mucking about with is-it-compiled-to-support... or drivers, etc... -- Adam Tauno Williams, Network & Systems Administrator Consultant - http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
Since I know any good MTA supports LDAP. Choose one that better fits your needs and you are accustomed to. On 9/15/07, Petre Bandac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > mups.cp wrote: > > I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have > > only an username and password instead one for each application and > > system they use. > > that is exactly what I want to do; so, using ldap, I can have the same > user/pass for both domain and mailbox > > based on your experience, which would fit better with postfix/courier > and samba ? > > thanks, > > petre > > > There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and > > centralization. Others will prefer MySQL. > > > > On 15 Sep 2007 17:42:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hallo, mups.cp, > >> > >> Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07: > >> > >>> I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and > >>> system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for > >>> nis, postfix, qmail, and so on. > >> Don't put all your eggs into one basket ... > >> > >> Viele Gruesse! > >> Helmut > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > >> instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > >> > > -- > > Petre Bandac > > Network Scientist > > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
mups.cp wrote: I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have only an username and password instead one for each application and system they use. that is exactly what I want to do; so, using ldap, I can have the same user/pass for both domain and mailbox based on your experience, which would fit better with postfix/courier and samba ? thanks, petre There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and centralization. Others will prefer MySQL. On 15 Sep 2007 17:42:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hallo, mups.cp, Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07: I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for nis, postfix, qmail, and so on. Don't put all your eggs into one basket ... Viele Gruesse! Helmut -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- Petre Bandac Network Scientist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have only an username and password instead one for each application and system they use. There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and centralization. Others will prefer MySQL. On 15 Sep 2007 17:42:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo, mups.cp, > > Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07: > > > I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and > > system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for > > nis, postfix, qmail, and so on. > > Don't put all your eggs into one basket ... > > Viele Gruesse! > Helmut > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
Hallo, mups.cp, Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07: > I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and > system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for > nis, postfix, qmail, and so on. Don't put all your eggs into one basket ... Viele Gruesse! Helmut -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petre Bandac wrote: > hallo > > I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company > (~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic > > I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place, > from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain > controller can retrieve information > > from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users > stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some > links (I already have googled around and found several sources from > where I am reading right now) > > I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain > logon > > thank you for your time, > > petre At least as far as Samba goes, I could have sworn MySQL received less attention as a backend (possibly even having been removed). There are probably ways to sync MySQL with LDAP that are fairly painless, but this really seems like something that one would do with LDAP anyhow. - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer II |$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6/+zmb+gadEcsb4RAhDHAKCL7MQgjIIzzk1N+NLfARQvrFAU4QCfWbkb xemH/wkdJLTzITxi2CVTvK4= =KHS2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for nis, postfix, qmail, and so on. On 9/15/07, Petre Bandac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hallo > > I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company > (~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic > > I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place, > from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain > controller can retrieve information > > from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users > stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some > links (I already have googled around and found several sources from > where I am reading right now) > > I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain logon > > thank you for your time, > > petre > -- > > Petre Bandac > > Network Scientist > > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql
hallo I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company (~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place, from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain controller can retrieve information from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some links (I already have googled around and found several sources from where I am reading right now) I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain logon thank you for your time, petre -- Petre Bandac Network Scientist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba