Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-16 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski

Petre Bandac schrieb:

hallo

I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company 
(~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic


I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place, 
from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain 
controller can retrieve information


from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users 
stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some 
links (I already have googled around and found several sources from 
where I am reading right now)


I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain 
logon


I would say MySQL is not an "officially recommended" way of storing 
Samba users.



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Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have
> > only an username and password instead one for each application and
> > system they use.
> that is exactly what I want to do; so, using ldap, I can have the same 
> user/pass for both domain and mailbox
> based on your experience, which would fit better with postfix/courier 
> and samba ?

Using LDAP is standard for most applications and well supported;
information on LDAP integration is plentiful;  Postfix has supported
LDAP for a long time and a standard SASL build supports LDAP.

Using something like MySQL for auth/ident is hackish and very
non-standard;  you'd be creating a site specific solution.  It is
important to think about what happens if someone needs to come in and
work in your environment.  LDAP is common and well understood,  people
expect LDAP in anything but the smallest networks.

> > There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and
> > centralization. Others will prefer MySQL.
> >>> I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and
> >>> system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for
> >>> nis, postfix, qmail, and so on.
> >> Don't put all your eggs into one basket ...

Yes, do.  One basket is EXACTLY what you want.   We use LDAP for ident
(NSS & SAMBA) &  authentication (mainly via PAM, SASL, & Samba), DHCP,
DNS, mail routing, IM groups, user preferences, and lots of other
things.  It is a major labor savings to have ONE store for all this
information that can all be managed by a very well supported and
standard protocol (LDAP).  Whether you want to use Perl, Python, C#,
Java, PHP, etc... you can access your data - no mucking about with
is-it-compiled-to-support... or drivers, etc...

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Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread mups . cp
Since I know any good MTA supports LDAP. Choose one that better fits
your needs and you are accustomed to.

On 9/15/07, Petre Bandac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> mups.cp wrote:
> > I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have
> > only an username and password instead one for each application and
> > system they use.
>
> that is exactly what I want to do; so, using ldap, I can have the same
> user/pass for both domain and mailbox
>
> based on your experience, which would fit better with postfix/courier
> and samba ?
>
> thanks,
>
> petre
>
> > There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and
> > centralization. Others will prefer MySQL.
> >
> > On 15 Sep 2007 17:42:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hallo, mups.cp,
> >>
> >> Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07:
> >>
> >>> I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and
> >>> system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for
> >>> nis, postfix, qmail, and so on.
> >> Don't put all your eggs into one basket ...
> >>
> >> Viele Gruesse!
> >> Helmut
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Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petre Bandac



mups.cp wrote:

I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have
only an username and password instead one for each application and
system they use.


that is exactly what I want to do; so, using ldap, I can have the same 
user/pass for both domain and mailbox


based on your experience, which would fit better with postfix/courier 
and samba ?


thanks,

petre


There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and
centralization. Others will prefer MySQL.

On 15 Sep 2007 17:42:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hallo, mups.cp,

Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07:


I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and
system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for
nis, postfix, qmail, and so on.

Don't put all your eggs into one basket ...

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut
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Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread mups . cp
I understand your point of view, but most of time people prefer have
only an username and password instead one for each application and
system they use.
There are other options, but I prefer LDAP for account management and
centralization. Others will prefer MySQL.

On 15 Sep 2007 17:42:00 +0200, Helmut Hullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hallo, mups.cp,
>
> Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07:
>
> > I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and
> > system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for
> > nis, postfix, qmail, and so on.
>
> Don't put all your eggs into one basket ...
>
> Viele Gruesse!
> Helmut
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Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Helmut Hullen
Hallo, mups.cp,

Du (mups.cp) meintest am 15.09.07:

> I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and
> system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for
> nis, postfix, qmail, and so on.

Don't put all your eggs into one basket ...

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut
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Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Ryan Novosielski
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Petre Bandac wrote:
> hallo
> 
> I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company
> (~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic
> 
> I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place,
> from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain
> controller can retrieve information
> 
> from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users
> stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some
> links (I already have googled around and found several sources from
> where I am reading right now)
> 
> I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain
> logon
> 
> thank you for your time,
> 
> petre

At least as far as Samba goes, I could have sworn MySQL received less
attention as a backend (possibly even having been removed). There are
probably ways to sync MySQL with LDAP that are fairly painless, but this
really seems like something that one would do with LDAP anyhow.

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Re: [Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread mups . cp
I'm a ldap fan. LDAP could be used to centralize all kind of app and
system you could need, even intranet accounts, samba, a replace for
nis, postfix, qmail, and so on.

On 9/15/07, Petre Bandac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hallo
>
> I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company
> (~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic
>
> I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place,
> from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain
> controller can retrieve information
>
> from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users
> stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some
> links (I already have googled around and found several sources from
> where I am reading right now)
>
> I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain logon
>
> thank you for your time,
>
> petre
> --
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[Samba] samba pdc & ldap vs mysql

2007-09-15 Thread Petre Bandac

hallo

I have a task to reorganize the network resources of a medium company 
(~150 computers, 80% windows) which in the current state is very chaotic


I was thinking of a system where the users are stored in a single place, 
from where applications like mail (postfix), squid and even a domain 
controller can retrieve information


from your past experience, which does a better job - ldap or users 
stored in a mysql database ? I would appreciate your feedback or some 
links (I already have googled around and found several sources from 
where I am reading right now)


I would like to have the same user/password for at least mail & domain logon

thank you for your time,

petre
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