RE: [Samba] Calculating file size.
At 19:04 18/06/2003 +0100, David Gilligan, Nyfix O'seas, Inc. wrote: OK. Maybe the 'not-so-sure' was a bit provocative on this list. As I can't afford a 'Filer', Samba is ~obviously~ my best option. WinXP reports the same figures though - maybe the answer is another DLT drive direct onto the (New-Improved!) Samba box; rather than mapping drives to the W2K backup server. Nevertheless, the sizes can't be *real* - according to the stats my drive is 3 times bigger than it was when I bought it! Point taken on the journaling FS. Can anyone compare small file performance between RH ext3 and ReiserFS? ext3 - 0 ; ReiserFS - 5 ;-D ext3 makes no provision for small files at all, while ReiserFS is specially optimized towards that goal. Made me think - thanks for the input -DG > -Original Message- > From: Jose Luis Tallon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 June 2003 6:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Samba] Calculating file size. > > > At 17:13 18/06/2003 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello! > >As it happens I am having some real nightmares with this too. > > > >Using NETGEAR ND520 NAS devices [Yes! I know - rod for own back...] > >But the fact it is a Linux device sold me ahead of a W2K Appliance > > > >[snip] > > If those S-O-D figures are real ( I mean, W2K is not making them up ), > you'd rather use ReiserFS for your Linux Samba server -- it would > save you > *tons* of disk > > >Sure, I'll be obseleting these NAS soon but my plan was to build a custom > >Linux Samba server to handle the task. Now I'm not so sure > > Why ? > > > >-DG > > > >IT Manager > >ISV > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > >instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] Calculating file size.
OK. Maybe the 'not-so-sure' was a bit provocative on this list. As I can't afford a 'Filer', Samba is ~obviously~ my best option. WinXP reports the same figures though - maybe the answer is another DLT drive direct onto the (New-Improved!) Samba box; rather than mapping drives to the W2K backup server. Nevertheless, the sizes can't be *real* - according to the stats my drive is 3 times bigger than it was when I bought it! Point taken on the journaling FS. Can anyone compare small file performance between RH ext3 and ReiserFS? Made me think - thanks for the input -DG > -Original Message- > From: Jose Luis Tallon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 June 2003 6:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Samba] Calculating file size. > > > At 17:13 18/06/2003 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello! > >As it happens I am having some real nightmares with this too. > > > >Using NETGEAR ND520 NAS devices [Yes! I know - rod for own back...] > >But the fact it is a Linux device sold me ahead of a W2K Appliance > > > >[snip] > > If those S-O-D figures are real ( I mean, W2K is not making them up ), > you'd rather use ReiserFS for your Linux Samba server -- it would > save you > *tons* of disk > > >Sure, I'll be obseleting these NAS soon but my plan was to build a custom > >Linux Samba server to handle the task. Now I'm not so sure > > Why ? > > > >-DG > > > >IT Manager > >ISV > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > >instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Calculating file size.
At 17:13 18/06/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello! As it happens I am having some real nightmares with this too. Using NETGEAR ND520 NAS devices [Yes! I know - rod for own back...] But the fact it is a Linux device sold me ahead of a W2K Appliance [snip] If those S-O-D figures are real ( I mean, W2K is not making them up ), you'd rather use ReiserFS for your Linux Samba server -- it would save you *tons* of disk Sure, I'll be obseleting these NAS soon but my plan was to build a custom Linux Samba server to handle the task. Now I'm not so sure Why ? -DG IT Manager ISV -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Calculating file size.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:55:29PM -0800, Jason C. Leach wrote: > hi, > > Here's an interesting one... > > If I view the files on my Samba server, the file size is reported > differently depending on if I'm looking from WinXX or Win2k. > > That is, if I do a 'properties' on a file with Windows ME for instance, I > see 'Size' and 'Size on Disk' numbers that seem reasonable. Size on Disk is > slightly larger which seems reasonable. But if I look from Win2k, the Size > on Disk is huge! A 30KB file will show up that way in the Size entry, but > be 1MB in the Size on Disk entry. I wondered if this could be because > Windows thinks samba is an NTFS server, but I note that even looking at > local files in Win2K on FAT32 shows this sort of discrepancy. > > I had never noticed this until today when a list member asked me about why > his tape backups of the samba shares were filling the tape s quickly. I > don't have the problem running the same tape drive from ME, but he's using > 2k and going through tape like there's no tomorrow. So I'm guessing that > the tape software is using the 'Size on Disk' information as it calculates > what space is left on the tape. > > Can anyone shed light on this and suggest a solution? Actully, this is my fault. Samba lies on a WNT/W2K "size on disk" query because someone at a NAS company noticed the WNT/2k use more efficient read transfers (I think it was) if this size is large. The tape backup software can't actually read this extra data so I don't know why it's using the "size on disk" to allocate blocks. You can change this be modifying the value in include/local.h /* Allocation roundup. */ #define SMB_ROUNDUP_ALLOCATION_SIZE 0x10 to a smaller value and recompiling. It hasn't caused trouble enough to become a runtime parameter. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
