Re: [Scid-users] Questions

2019-12-25 Thread bstp
> I don't use si4 files at all. I found then very unefficient for my
purposes, so I work only on PGN files.

If that's the case, I'm not sure why one would keep working with SCID. As I
understand it, SCID is made to use its own format. To import from and
export to PGN files each time one is working with SCID looks cumbersome.

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> I don't trust SCID programme

If you don't trust the SCID program, it might be best to not comment
furthermore on this mailing list. As far as I am concerned, I ran SCID for
more than three years without any one single crash of loss of information
with intensively annotated games.
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Re: [Scid-users] Questions

2019-12-25 Thread Krzysztof Janda
1. I don't use si4 files at all. I found then very unefficient for my 
purposes, so I work only on PGN files.


2. I don't know how to use si4 files, so I choose "save PGN" files, 
which I know how they works.
I can edit PGN's easily in Notepad. I delete "rules infraction" games 
and similar bad ones, where Arena 3.5.1 doesn't handle with them, making 
errors in the database.
I had no time and will to dig into si4 yet. I don't trust SCID 
programme, so I will wait for bug's upgrates I guess.


3. Yes. 4.7.0 version.
I am working with PGN's up to 200-250 MB. Bigger ones are not handled in 
the old SCID.


4. "And step by step what did you do to reveal this bug?
Any pertinent comments on why you think it is a bug too might help me."

Now I cannot remember. I need to try in January again and if I find this 
bug again, I will describe it precisely and put here.


5. "Did "ctrl-M" clear all the comments in a game or database?"

It is not working in SCID 4.7.0 at all. It is working in the SCID vs PC 
with some options.

I will try to test comments again in January if I find a time.

I cannot help you more for now. We'll be in touch.

Greetings,
Krzysztof Janda

W dniu 2019-12-23 o 15:57, Maurice McCarthy pisze:

Most importantly the PGN files should only be used READ-ONLY. Do not
try to change them. If you wish to alter the file then it MUST be
first imported to si4 format as explained to Steve Cohen. (File-New
and save a new empty si4 file then Database-Import...) (An already
existing si4 file will work also.) Secondly, Scid is highly
inefficient in handling PGN files. However, I am not a coder and do
not understand how it has corrupted your PGN file. It should not do
that. It should only lose all changes.

Could you supply more details of this please. Which operating system
you use and which version of Scid (4.7.0 I presume). Exactly how big
is the pgn file? And step by step what did you do to reveal this bug?
Any pertinent comments on why you think it is a bug too might help me.
(All work on Scid is purely voluntary but if it can be improved I'm
sure folk will try to do so.) Thanks for your report.

Did "ctrl-M" clear all the comments in a game or database? I assume
you cannot mean a single comment as there is a button for that in the
Comment Tab. You can clear all comments when you export a Scid
database to pgn format. --
brings up options which you can choose to export or leave out.

Best Wishes
Moss



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Re: [Scid-users] Questions

2019-12-25 Thread Steve Cohen
Thanks!

But now that I understand the model, I don’t really have an issue.

Perhaps you are so used to Scid’s unusual model (unlike any program I’ve
ever worked with) that it doesn’t strike you as strange.  But the
documentation ought to mention it more prominently.  Basically you HAVE TO
create a New Database as a first step when starting to use Scid (aside from
the secondary use case of opening/viewingg PGN files). The confusion arises
from the fact that the UI makes it look like you’re working with a new
database (clipbase) but this is a database that cannot be saved.

I don’t want to be seen as overly critical.  I wouldn’t be writing if I
didn’t think SCID was an excellent piece of software.

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 4:21 AM Maurice McCarthy 
wrote:

> On 24/12/2019, Steve Cohen  wrote:
>
> >> 2. Import the pgn file into this new database with - >> ...> The imported games are saved immediately in the Scid database.
> >
> > Yes, this is what was confusing me.  Most other software has a Save and
> > a Save As function, but scid's only allows saving to a preexisting
> > database file.  This is counter-intuitive and confusing.  In particular,
> > the idea of saving clipbase to a database file makes sense and would
> > make things better.  But this is, I suppose a Nice To Have.
> >
>
> Not sure if   this helps but you can copy individual games from
> clipbase to another open database by a right-click on the game list.
> See pgn.
>
> Is it sad to be writing this on Christmas Day. HRH is still asleep so
> I've got a little time to myself ! :)
>
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Re: [Scid-users] Questions

2019-12-25 Thread Maurice McCarthy
On 24/12/2019, Steve Cohen  wrote:

>> 2. Import the pgn file into this new database with -> ...> The imported games are saved immediately in the Scid database.
>
> Yes, this is what was confusing me.  Most other software has a Save and
> a Save As function, but scid's only allows saving to a preexisting
> database file.  This is counter-intuitive and confusing.  In particular,
> the idea of saving clipbase to a database file makes sense and would
> make things better.  But this is, I suppose a Nice To Have.
>

Not sure if   this helps but you can copy individual games from
clipbase to another open database by a right-click on the game list.
See pgn.

Is it sad to be writing this on Christmas Day. HRH is still asleep so
I've got a little time to myself ! :)


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