Re: SL5 installation on AMD processor#8207;

2010-07-14 Thread Troy Dawson

Hi,
Thank you for the detail.
From what I see, the hardware is supported on SL 5.5.
From the description of the sounds and symptoms, I believe you are 
having hardware problems, particularly the hard drive.

I would look in
/var/log/messages
and see if there is anything there dealing with your hard drives.
I don't have an example right now of what to look for, maybe someone 
else has some log examples of hard drives going bad.


Troy

Rhykie Ron wrote:

Hi,
Here are the outputs for cat /proc/cpuinfo and lspci commands, respective
ly:

   * /proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0

vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 17
model   : 3
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm)X2 DualCore QL-66
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1100.000
cache size  : 512 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr mca cmov pat pse36
clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow
constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legac
y
3dnowprefetch osvw ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8]
bogomips: 2751.92

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 17
model   : 3
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm)X2 DualCore QL-66
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 1100.000
cache size  : 512 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr mca cmov pat pse36
clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow
constant_tsc up nonstop_tsc pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic
cr8legacy 3dnowprefetch osvw ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8]
bogomips: 2751.92


*** lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge
(int gfx)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge
(PCIE port 0)
00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge
(PCIE port 3)
00:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge
(PCIE port 4)
00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller

[AHCI mode]
00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Contro
ller
00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Control
ler
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Contro
ller
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Control
ler
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a)
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI2 Contro
ller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2,
Athlon X2, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration (rev 40)
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h [Turion X2,
Athlon X2, Sempron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2,
Athlon X2, Sempron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2,
Athlon X2, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2,
Athlon X2, Sempron] Link Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN
[Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device

4357 (rev 10)
06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 0
1)




Actually, the system boots up fine, but sometimes some sounds comes as
though there is a problem inside, and i am able to log in. When opening t
he
browser and scrolling through the page the browser just goes off; the sam
e
thing happens when dealing with PDF files.
I was firstly using using SL5.4, but then i had the problem of audio soun
d
and the previously mentioned problems, and also the system making those
clutching sound during booting and shutting down.
I moved to SL5.5 and the only thing that has improved being the audio.


cheers



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Re: TESTING - openafs update for SL5

2010-07-14 Thread Stephan Wiesand
On Jul 8, 2010, at 19:11 , Dag Wieers wrote:

 On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Troy Dawson wrote:
 
 Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Troy Dawson wrote:
   With many minor releases, we update the version of openafs for that   
  minor release.  This new version then get's pushed out to the rest of   
  the releases.
   With SL 5.5 we updated openafs to 1.4.12, and we are about to push that 
version out to the rest of the SL5 releases.  It currently is in   
  testing, and it has passed every updating test I could think to throw at 
it and it updated without any problems.
We plan on pushing this out on Monday - 12 July 2010
To test or update
SL5
   ---
  yum --enablerepo=sl-testing update kernel-module-openafs\*
or you can download rpm's by hand at
   http:  
   //ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/i386/openafs/
  http:  
  //ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/x86_64/openafs/
 
 Would there be any interest if we provided kmod-openafs modules that are
 kernel-agnostic (or kABI-tracking as we say) from ELRepo ?
 
 The advantage is that the modules keep on working through kernel-updates,
 which makes update-cycles (and maintenance) to be less work.
 
 I am tempted to create those packages, but without an interested party
 that can provide sufficient testing the effort is kinda moot.
 
 Let me know,
 
 I thought that the openafs kernel modules didn't work well with kABI, but I 
 would love to find that incorrect.  If you think it is possible, please 
 build it, and I'm certain we'll have plenty of testers.
 
 If that is true we might have a discussion with Red Hat to see whether we can 
 have those symbols as part of the kABI whitelist. Let's find out :-)

There are symbols missing from the whitelist, so there was no way to use 
kABI-tracking modules cleanly. That being said, it probably would have 
worked. If someone has the time, it would be really interesting to force the 
module built for the SL5.0 GA kernel into -194.8.1 and see whether that works.

The guy in charge at Red Hat (Jon Masters) seems very openminded, so talking to 
them is certainly worth the effort. I have my doubts though whether there's any 
chance to have the whitelist extended while it still matters.

 For SL5, I'd like to stick with what we have with the supported release, but 
 I'm very sure that we would have plenty of users wiling to test and use the 
 kmod-openafs module.  If everything goes well, we could offer it as an 
 alternative.
 
 For SL6, if this works we could use that and save us from having to create 
 kernel modules with each kernel update.
 
 Sure, I don't want to force anyone anyway. A clean upgrade path will be very 
 hard due to the fact that these kernel-module packages have the 
 kernel-version in the name. So your position makes a lot of sense.

That's my point of view as well. SL5 should not drop the kernel-module packages 
(at least not anytime soon), but having kmods for testing would be very useful. 
With SL6, AFAIK, the whitelist problem is going to vanish, and IMO we should 
use kABI for the next major release if at all possible.

We should also make an effort to (re-)unite the SL/Elrepo/... packaging with 
the one from openafs.org. And Christof Hanke, who's crafting the OpenSuSE RPMs, 
also expressed interest in a unified spec during the European AFS Workshop in 
Rome last autumn. This is probably the time to actually try getting there. It 
may turn out that it's not feasible, but let's try.

Opinions?

 
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 [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]

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DESY -DV-
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15738 Zeuthen, Germany


Re: TESTING - openafs update for SL5

2010-07-14 Thread Phil Perry

On 14/07/10 20:06, Stephan Wiesand wrote:

On Jul 8, 2010, at 19:11 , Dag Wieers wrote:


If that is true we might have a discussion with Red Hat to see whether we can 
have those symbols as part of the kABI whitelist. Let's find out :-)


There are symbols missing from the whitelist, so there was no way to use kABI-tracking 
modules cleanly. That being said, it probably would have worked. If someone 
has the time, it would be really interesting to force the module built for the SL5.0 GA 
kernel into -194.8.1 and see whether that works.

The guy in charge at Red Hat (Jon Masters) seems very openminded, so talking to 
them is certainly worth the effort. I have my doubts though whether there's any 
chance to have the whitelist extended while it still matters.



Jon requested we file bugs for missing symbols for the third party kmod 
drivers we have built. Please feel free to use the existing bug to 
report/log further symbols:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520891


Terrabyte file systems and SL5.0

2010-07-14 Thread William Lutter
For the first time I will be using a 1-2 Terrabyte hard drive on any SL 
release, in particular,  on  an older SL5.0 (boron) OS.   

There's plenty on the web about pros and cons for larger file systems (resier, 
xfs, ext3, ext4, ...).   I've usually stayed with ext3 (200-500 Gb HD that are 
NFS mounted to linux or windows using MS windows for unix).  So, vanilla; not 
too splashy a set up.  No clusters.  I've not used LVM. 

I think my question is which of these choices is as well developed, mature, and 
easy to use as ext3 for the SL5.0 boron version of SL?   I'm most familiar with 
ext3 and do these stray IT tasks as needed, so I've not kept up on the latest 
and greatest.

Thanks for any comments,
Bill Lutter


Re: Terrabyte file systems and SL5.0

2010-07-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:31:48PM -0700, Isaac wrote:
 
 Well, ext3 will supposedly work with up to 16 TB in RHEL5, so SL should
 have similar limits.



I can confirm that at least a 7 TB ext3 filesystem is possible. I have
one 8x1TB RAID5 array running ext3 built with stock SL ext3 tools.

I cannot confirm the 16 TB limit. Can you point us to a reference somewhere?

Here is my information:

I looked into this several years ago when building an 11 TB filesystem. The SL 
mke2fs
refused to make an ext3 filesystem that big and it turned out that mke2fs 
sources
had a hardwired limit of 8 TB maximum filesystem size. Instead, I made an 11 TB 
XFS
filesystem and it is still running just fine thank you very much.


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Konstantin Olchanski
Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada