Re: While command not found?

2014-03-07 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 03/07/2014 01:12 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:

Hi All,

In SL6.5 bash script, is while not supported/

Cancel=no while [ $Cancel != Cancel ]
do
   RunTunnel
done

Gives me while: command not found.

Is there a better way to do loop until?

Many thanks,
-T





Never mind.  Missed a command separator  ;.

Cancel=no; while [ $Cancel != Cancel ]

-T
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SL 6.4 Ethernet Port is dead - maybe

2014-03-07 Thread Larry Linder
I am looking for a way to check the functionality of an Ethernet port on a 4 
mo old new system.   We use this box for number crunching and reducing data.
Since no one uses the desktop we left it as Gnome and set up network.  This 
also the same box we found the SL 6.x had a broken driver for the chip set.  
Thanks to some serious help we were able to download the driver for the 
Ethernet chip set and it worked for a long time.

After a power failure on a clear day we noticed that it would boot and run but 
no intranet.   The power failure was city wide for about 5 sec.  Just enough 
to turn on the UPS,s and EM Lights.

I have look on the net and there is a lot of people offering suggestions but 
nothing you can hang you hat on.  Most just reference a lot of applications.

Tried:
drop down's for preferences and network set up.  restart network  
NetworkManagement .  These look OK.

Apps:
ifconfig
etho:  says that it read a large number of packets and transmitted none.

ss
gives a lot of information but Its pretty criptic to say the least.

The Ethernet chip set is on the mother board and I hate to dismantel it 
replace the mother board and have the same problem.  I was looking for a way 
to test it with a loop back scheme and monitor the transmission with a scope.
The Ethernet chip set supports 10/100/1000 megHz.   Because of the size of the 
data sets we need the 1 g. rate.   We plan to upgrade our entire network to 1 
G router, and switches once this problem is resolved.
Only change one thing at a time.

Larry Linder 


Re: SL 6.4 Ethernet Port is dead - maybe

2014-03-07 Thread John Lauro
Did you try a cold boot?  I have seen problematic network drivers that work 
after a cold boot, but fail if you do a warm boot on a box.

Have you tried ethtool eth0?  Does it show link detected?

It might be worth trying a live cd of something newer that would more likely 
support network of newer chipsets automatically at bootup, such as a live 
version of the latest fedora, ubuntu, or knoppix.



- Original Message -
 From: Larry Linder larry.lin...@micro-controls.com
 To: scientific-linux-users@listserv.fnal.gov
 Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 4:47:01 PM
 Subject: SL 6.4 Ethernet Port is dead - maybe
 
 I am looking for a way to check the functionality of an Ethernet port
 on a 4
 mo old new system.   We use this box for number crunching and
 reducing data.
 Since no one uses the desktop we left it as Gnome and set up
 network.  This
 also the same box we found the SL 6.x had a broken driver for the
 chip set.
 Thanks to some serious help we were able to download the driver for
 the
 Ethernet chip set and it worked for a long time.
 
 After a power failure on a clear day we noticed that it would boot
 and run but
 no intranet.   The power failure was city wide for about 5 sec.  Just
 enough
 to turn on the UPS,s and EM Lights.
 
 I have look on the net and there is a lot of people offering
 suggestions but
 nothing you can hang you hat on.  Most just reference a lot of
 applications.
 
 Tried:
 drop down's for preferences and network set up.  restart network
 
 NetworkManagement .  These look OK.
 
 Apps:
 ifconfig
 etho:  says that it read a large number of packets and transmitted
 none.
 
 ss
 gives a lot of information but Its pretty criptic to say the least.
 
 The Ethernet chip set is on the mother board and I hate to dismantel
 it
 replace the mother board and have the same problem.  I was looking
 for a way
 to test it with a loop back scheme and monitor the transmission with
 a scope.
 The Ethernet chip set supports 10/100/1000 megHz.   Because of the
 size of the
 data sets we need the 1 g. rate.   We plan to upgrade our entire
 network to 1
 G router, and switches once this problem is resolved.
 Only change one thing at a time.
 
 Larry Linder
 


Re: SL 6.4 Ethernet Port is dead - maybe

2014-03-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 7 March 2014 14:47, Larry Linder larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:

 I am looking for a way to check the functionality of an Ethernet port on a
 4
 mo old new system.   We use this box for number crunching and reducing
 data.
 Since no one uses the desktop we left it as Gnome and set up network.
  This
 also the same box we found the SL 6.x had a broken driver for the chip set.
 Thanks to some serious help we were able to download the driver for the
 Ethernet chip set and it worked for a long time.

 After a power failure on a clear day we noticed that it would boot and run
 but
 no intranet.   The power failure was city wide for about 5 sec.  Just
 enough
 to turn on the UPS,s and EM Lights.

 I have look on the net and there is a lot of people offering suggestions
 but
 nothing you can hang you hat on.  Most just reference a lot of
 applications.

 Tried:
 drop down's for preferences and network set up.  restart network 
 NetworkManagement .  These look OK.

 Apps:
 ifconfig
 etho:  says that it read a large number of packets and transmitted none.

 ss
 gives a lot of information but Its pretty criptic to say the least.

 The Ethernet chip set is on the mother board and I hate to dismantel it
 replace the mother board and have the same problem.  I was looking for a
 way
 to test it with a loop back scheme and monitor the transmission with a
 scope.


The cost of doing that is going to be more than a board and warranty if it
is 4 months old. Mainly because if it can recieve but not send then there
are 3 possible problems:

1) The ethernet card is fried. You can pay for a $10.00 replacement card
before you figure out what a correct signal looks like.
2) The wire is fried.
3) The port on the switch is fried.

The usual way to check things is the following:
1) If the box is really reading stuff you can do a tcpdump and see what
packets are being seen on the network.
2) Move the wire from the box to a different port on the switch. This will
see if the problem is with the switch.
3) Replace the wire.
4) If you have a grant get an ethernet probe device for a couple thousand
dollars (I think). They can test all of the above and tell you where the
line might be fried if it is buried in cables etc.

The oscillascope items might show you that you are getting a signal, but it
won't tell you if that wave is in any form or shape what the computer can
understand. To do that you will need to either duplicate a working signal
over a similar distance of cable (to deal with what degredation might be
there) or have some sort of litmus available (which is usually the probe
device).




 The Ethernet chip set supports 10/100/1000 megHz.   Because of the size of
 the
 data sets we need the 1 g. rate.   We plan to upgrade our entire network
 to 1
 G router, and switches once this problem is resolved.
 Only change one thing at a time.

 Larry Linder




-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.


RE: SL 6.4 Ethernet Port is dead - maybe

2014-03-07 Thread Kraus, Dave (GE Healthcare)
Just a guess since I didn't see you say you did this - if yum-autoupdate was 
turned on, you may have gotten a new kernel installed and not realized it. When 
you rebooted, the driver for the ethernet port that  you got installed for the 
old kernel probably would need to be reinstalled for the new kernel. (Drivers 
usually get tied to specific kernel versions by recompiling/relinking to match 
up to that kernel's interfaces.)

If you did reinstall the driver, then others' suggestions may be more 
appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov 
[mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Larry 
Linder
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 3:47 PM
To: scientific-linux-users@listserv.fnal.gov
Subject: SL 6.4 Ethernet Port is dead - maybe

I am looking for a way to check the functionality of an Ethernet port on a 4 
mo old new system.   We use this box for number crunching and reducing data.
Since no one uses the desktop we left it as Gnome and set up network.  This 
also the same box we found the SL 6.x had a broken driver for the chip set.  
Thanks to some serious help we were able to download the driver for the 
Ethernet chip set and it worked for a long time.

After a power failure on a clear day we noticed that it would boot and run but 
no intranet.   The power failure was city wide for about 5 sec.  Just enough 
to turn on the UPS,s and EM Lights.

I have look on the net and there is a lot of people offering suggestions but 
nothing you can hang you hat on.  Most just reference a lot of applications.

Tried:
drop down's for preferences and network set up.  restart network  
NetworkManagement .  These look OK.

Apps:
ifconfig
etho:  says that it read a large number of packets and transmitted none.

ss
gives a lot of information but Its pretty criptic to say the least.

The Ethernet chip set is on the mother board and I hate to dismantel it replace 
the mother board and have the same problem.  I was looking for a way to test it 
with a loop back scheme and monitor the transmission with a scope.
The Ethernet chip set supports 10/100/1000 megHz.   Because of the size of the 
data sets we need the 1 g. rate.   We plan to upgrade our entire network to 1 
G router, and switches once this problem is resolved.
Only change one thing at a time.

Larry Linder 


Re: SL 6.4 Ethernet Port is dead - maybe

2014-03-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Grab the latest live Ubuntu live DVD or CD. See if *that* can talk to
the ethernet port, since the kernels tend to be more recent than the
industry grade, stable kernels in Scientific Linux. But after a power
failure on a clear day sounds like hardware failure.. I assume you;ve
tested the cables and upstream network ports?

If the chipset is toast, which can happen, a decent PCI/E or even old
PCI network card should support GigE quite easily. If you need network
alive while testing kernels, USB network devices can be quite handy.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Larry Linder
larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
 I am looking for a way to check the functionality of an Ethernet port on a 4
 mo old new system.   We use this box for number crunching and reducing data.
 Since no one uses the desktop we left it as Gnome and set up network.  This
 also the same box we found the SL 6.x had a broken driver for the chip set.
 Thanks to some serious help we were able to download the driver for the
 Ethernet chip set and it worked for a long time.

 After a power failure on a clear day we noticed that it would boot and run but
 no intranet.   The power failure was city wide for about 5 sec.  Just enough
 to turn on the UPS,s and EM Lights.

 I have look on the net and there is a lot of people offering suggestions but
 nothing you can hang you hat on.  Most just reference a lot of applications.

 Tried:
 drop down's for preferences and network set up.  restart network 
 NetworkManagement .  These look OK.

 Apps:
 ifconfig
 etho:  says that it read a large number of packets and transmitted none.

 ss
 gives a lot of information but Its pretty criptic to say the least.

 The Ethernet chip set is on the mother board and I hate to dismantel it
 replace the mother board and have the same problem.  I was looking for a way
 to test it with a loop back scheme and monitor the transmission with a scope.
 The Ethernet chip set supports 10/100/1000 megHz.   Because of the size of the
 data sets we need the 1 g. rate.   We plan to upgrade our entire network to 1
 G router, and switches once this problem is resolved.
 Only change one thing at a time.

 Larry Linder


Bootable USB installer for SL6.5

2014-03-07 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
Hello, there - I updated my USB installer images to SL6.5 (64-bit only, sorry).

Download the stuff from here:
http://trshare.triumf.ca/~olchansk/linux/

Instructions are here:
http://trshare.triumf.ca/~olchansk/linux/SL65-64-USBBOOT/AAA-README-USBBOOT.txt

Major changes:

- updated to SL6.5 (duh!)
- includes an example kickstart file, customize it as you wish
- includes all recent versions of memtest86 and memtest86+ (if you figure out 
how to boot memtest86-5.0.0, please drop me a note)

The problem of installer writing the final GRUB to the installer source USB 
stick
instead of to the target disk is still present, you have to catch it and change
the drive order on the boot loader install page.

 (There is one caveat with running the installer from writable media -
 the SL6.3 installer sometimes writes the GRUB boot loader on the USB 
 installer disk
 instead of the installation target disks - producing an unbootable
 system and ruining the USB installer disk at the same time. I have
 not seen the SL6.1 installer do this. Maybe one should use write-protect
 capable USB flash media).

Previous announcement with discussion is below:


K.O.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:33:46AM -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
 For reasons unknown, RHEL and SL insist on publishing installer images
 that work only from the DVD physical media. But none of the computers
 I buy today have DVD drives and I am not sure if Staples carry DVD blanks 
 anymore.
 I guess I must be happy that SL install images do not come on floppies, punch 
 cards
 or paper tape.
 
 Generally, this does not inconvinience me too much - I do most installs
 over the network (PXE boot). But sometimes I have machines generally
 not connected to the Internet (on a private network or out in the woods),
 so I have constructed bootable USB images for SL6.1 and 6.3. (6.4 on the way).
 
 (This installer tree is a copy of the .../x86_64/os tree minus the Packages
 directory, plus the isolinux/extlinux stuff and the DVD .iso files. The SL
 installer refuses to install from the Packages directory)
 
 (There is one caveat with running the installer from writable media -
 the SL6.3 installer sometimes writes the GRUB boot loader on the USB 
 installer disk
 instead of the installation target disks - producing an unbootable
 system and ruining the USB installer disk at the same time. I have
 not seen the SL6.1 installer do this. Maybe one should use write-protect
 capable USB flash media).
 
 Download the stuff from here:
 http://trshare.triumf.ca/~olchansk/linux/
 
 Instructions are here:
 http://trshare.triumf.ca/~olchansk/linux/SL63-64-USBBOOT/AAA-README-USBBOOT.txt
 
 Instructions for making USB-Bootable installation disk for 64bit SL6.3
 --
 
 0. These instructions are intended for making a 64-bit SL6.3 installer on a 
 USB Flash disk. 8GB flash media is recommended.
 1. The ISO DVD images are NOT included. Download your own copies, before 
 following these instructions.
 2. Prepare the USB disk:
 a) su -
 b) fdisk -H224 -S56 /dev/sdX, make one partition of type 83-Linux, mark it 
 bootable. Result should look like this:
 
 root# fdisk -l /dev/sdX
 
 Disk /dev/sdc: 7996 MB, 7996440576 bytes
 224 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 12544 * 512 = 6422528 bytes
 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
 Disk identifier: 0x
 
Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdc1   *   11245 7808612   83  Linux
 
 b) mke2fs -j /dev/sdX1; tune2fs -c0 -i0 /dev/sdX1
 c) mkdir /mnt/tmp
 d) mount /dev/sdX1 /mnt/tmp
 
 3. Copy the data:
 a) cd to_the_directory_with_this_readme_file; rsync -av . /mnt/tmp
 b) cd to_the_directory_with_the_SL63_iso_images; rsync -av SL-63-*-DVD1.iso 
 SL-63-*-DVD2.iso /mnt/tmp
 c) cd /mnt/tmp; chown -R root.root .
 
 4. Make disk bootable
 a) cd /mnt/tmp/isolinux
 b) cat ./mbr.bin  /dev/sdX ### (*NOT* /dev/sdX1)
 c) ./extlinux -i .
 
 5. cd /; umount /mnt/tmp
 6. try to boot from the newly made USB disk.
 
 //KO 21FEB2013
 
 
 -- 
 Konstantin Olchanski
 Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
 Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
 Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

-- 
Konstantin Olchanski
Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada