[scifinoir2] Elfman Won't Score 'Spider-Man 3'
Elfman Won't Score 'Spider-Man 3' http://www.syfyportal.com/article.php?id=2027 Author: Wayne Hall Date: 09-15-2005 Source: Dark Horizons Danny Elfman, who composed music for both previous Spider-Man films, won't score the upcoming Spider-Man 3 as a result of a split between him and director Sam Raimi, according to darkhorizons.com. I'm not working on Spider-Man 3. I'm out of that, Elfman said in an interview on about.com. I won't miss not doing it. 'Spider-Man 2' was a miserable experience. It's like my connection with Sam got completely severed. As far as I'm concerned, he went to sleep, somebody put a pod next to him and when he awoke, he wasn't the same person I'd known for a decade. He went from right there number two on my list of favorite directors to the exact opposite of what I look for in a film experience which is everything I could do on 'Spider-Man,' I couldn't do on 'Spider-Man 2,' Elfman said. He got so intensely attached to the temp music that I couldn't even adapt my own music close enough. Let me put it that way. I couldn't get close enough to me, least of all anybody else who was in the temp score. Elman's 'Spider-Man' theme will still be found in the third film of the franchise because Raimi owns the rights to it. He can do whatever he wants, said Elfman. It's the first time I've ever walked from a director in 20 years and hoefully the last time I have to turn my back on somebody but it became like intolerable. And I've been on some heavy duty films, so to say that, it had to be pretty bad. I've been in war zones you couldn't believe in 55 films but this is the first time I said, 'I've had it. It's just not worth it. I'd rather go back to waiting tables than to do 'Spider-Man 2' again, to have to have the same experience. An accomplished, busy musician and composer, Elfman, who was in the band Oingo Boingo, has scored films including Batman, Beetlejuice, Men in Black, and one of the summer films, Charlie The Chocolate Factory. He's also created many television themes, such as The Simpsons and Desperate Housewives He has completed work on The Corpse Bride and will soon turn his focus to Charlotte's Web and A Day with Wilbur Robinson. Tracey deMorsella, Managing Producer Convergence Media, Inc. Home of The Multicultural Advantage Phone: 215-849-0946 E-mail: tdemorsella @multiculturaladvantage.com http://www.multiculturaladvantage.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Cornel West on Katrina and New Orleans
Published on Sunday, September 11, 2005 by the Observer/UK Exiles From a City and From a Nation by Cornel West It takes something as big as Hurricane Katrina and the misery we saw among the poor black people of New Orleans to get America to focus on race and poverty. It happens about once every 30 or 40 years. What we saw unfold in the days after the hurricane was the most naked manifestation of conservative social policy towards the poor, where the message for decades has been: 'You are on your own'. Well, they really were on their own for five days in that Superdome, and it was Darwinism in action - the survival of the fittest. People said: 'It looks like something out of the Third World.' Well, New Orleans was Third World long before the hurricane. It's not just Katrina, it's povertina. People were quick to call them refugees because they looked as if they were from another country. They are. Exiles in America. Their humanity had been rendered invisible so they were never given high priority when the well-to-do got out and the helicopters came for the few. Almost everyone stuck on rooftops, in the shelters, and dying by the side of the road was poor black. In the end George Bush has to take responsibility. When [the rapper] Kanye West said the President does not care about black people, he was right, although the effects of his policies are different from what goes on in his soul. You have to distinguish between a racist intent and the racist consequences of his policies. Bush is still a 'frat boy', making jokes and trying to please everyone while the Neanderthals behind him push him more to the right. Poverty has increased for the last four or five years. A million more Americans became poor last year, even as the super-wealthy became much richer. So where is the trickle-down, the equality of opportunity? Healthcare and education and the social safety net being ripped away - and that flawed structure was nowhere more evident than in a place such as New Orleans, 68 per cent black. The average adult income in some parishes of the city is under $8,000 (£4,350) a year. The average national income is $33,000, though for African-Americans it is about $24,000. It has one of the highest city murder rates in the US. From slave ships to the Superdome was not that big a journey. New Orleans has always been a city that lived on the edge. The white blues man himself, Tennessee Williams, had it down in A Streetcar Named Desire - with Elysian Fields and cemeteries and the quest for paradise. When you live so close to death, behind the levees, you live more intensely, sexually, gastronomically, psychologically. Louis Armstrong came out of that unbelievable cultural breakthrough unprecedented in the history of American civilisation. The rural blues, the urban jazz. It is the tragi-comic lyricism that gives you the courage to get through the darkest storm. Charlie Parker would have killed somebody if he had not blown his horn. The history of black people in America is one of unbelievable resilience in the face of crushing white supremacist powers. This kind of dignity in your struggle cuts both ways, though, because it does not mobilise a collective uprising against the elites. That was the Black Panther movement. You probably need both. There would have been no Panthers without jazz. If I had been of Martin Luther King's generation I would never have gone to Harvard orPrinceton. They shot brother Martin dead like a dog in 1968 when the mobilisation of the black poor was just getting started. At least one of his surviving legacies was the quadrupling in the size of the black middle class. But Oprah [Winfrey] the billionaire and the black judges and chief executives and movie stars do not mean equality, or even equality of opportunity yet. Black faces in high places does not mean racism is over. Condoleezza Rice has sold her soul. Now the black bourgeoisie have an even heavier obligation to fight for the 33 per cent of black children living in poverty - and to alleviate the spiritual crisis of hopelessness among young black men. Bush talks about God, but he has forgotten the point of prophetic Christianity is compassion and justice for those who have least. Hip-hop has the anger that comes out of post-industrial, free-market America, but it lacks the progressiveness that produces organisations that will threaten the status quo. There has not been a giant since King, someone prepared to die and create an insurgency where many are prepared to die to upset the corporate elite. The Democrats are spineless. There is the danger of nihilism and in the Superdome around the fourth day, there it was - husbands held at gunpoint while their wives were raped, someone stomped to death, people throwing themselves off the mezzanine floor, dozens of bodies. It was a war of all against all - 'you're on your own' - in the centre of the American empire. But now that the aid is pouring in, vital as it is, do not confuse charity
RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics
Tried it both ways before...But when YOU come on and say it works...TA-DA!...This is some type of conspiracy... Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:works just fine for me, both Brent's post and your reply. Try copying-pasting the link below directly into the Address field of your browser -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 22:02 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics The link doesn't work, Brent... Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Fetching Gina Torres. sigh http://www.livejournal.com/community/firefly_daily/26907.html SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Elfman Won't Score 'Spider-Man 3'
What the heck happened? You rarely hear people speak so frankly about negative behind-the-scenes experiences -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 02:32 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Elfman Won't Score 'Spider-Man 3' Elfman Won't Score 'Spider-Man 3' http://www.syfyportal.com/article.php?id=2027 Author: Wayne Hall Date: 09-15-2005 Source: Dark Horizons Danny Elfman, who composed music for both previous Spider-Man films, won't score the upcoming Spider-Man 3 as a result of a split between him and director Sam Raimi, according to darkhorizons.com. I'm not working on Spider-Man 3. I'm out of that, Elfman said in an interview on about.com. I won't miss not doing it. 'Spider-Man 2' was a miserable experience. It's like my connection with Sam got completely severed. As far as I'm concerned, he went to sleep, somebody put a pod next to him and when he awoke, he wasn't the same person I'd known for a decade. He went from right there number two on my list of favorite directors to the exact opposite of what I look for in a film experience which is everything I could do on 'Spider-Man,' I couldn't do on 'Spider-Man 2,' Elfman said. He got so intensely attached to the temp music that I couldn't even adapt my own music close enough. Let me put it that way. I couldn't get close enough to me, least of all anybody else who was in the temp score. Elman's 'Spider-Man' theme will still be found in the third film of the franchise because Raimi owns the rights to it. He can do whatever he wants, said Elfman. It's the first time I've ever walked from a director in 20 years and hoefully the last time I have to turn my back on somebody but it became like intolerable. And I've been on some heavy duty films, so to say that, it had to be pretty bad. I've been in war zones you couldn't believe in 55 films but this is the first time I said, 'I've had it. It's just not worth it. I'd rather go back to waiting tables than to do 'Spider-Man 2' again, to have to have the same experience. An accomplished, busy musician and composer, Elfman, who was in the band Oingo Boingo, has scored films including Batman, Beetlejuice, Men in Black, and one of the summer films, Charlie The Chocolate Factory. He's also created many television themes, such as The Simpsons and Desperate Housewives He has completed work on The Corpse Bride and will soon turn his focus to Charlotte's Web and A Day with Wilbur Robinson. Tracey deMorsella, Managing Producer Convergence Media, Inc. Home of The Multicultural Advantage Phone: 215-849-0946 E-mail: tdemorsella @multiculturaladvantage.com http://www.multiculturaladvantage.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] The Worlds Smallest Robot
http://www.livescience.com/technology/050915_smallest_robot.html The Worlds Smallest Robot By Bjorn Carey LiveScience Staff Writer posted: 15 September 2005 Researchers have built an inchworm-like robot so small you need a microscope just to see it. In fact about 200 hundred of them could line up and do the conga across a plain MM. The tiny bot measures about 60 micrometers wide (about the width of a human hair) by 250 micrometers long, making it the smallest untethered, controllable microrobot ever. It's tens of times smaller in length, and thousands of times smaller in mass than previous untethered microrobots that are controllable, said designer Bruce Donald of Dartmouth University. When we say controllable,' it means it's like a car; you can steer it anywhere on a flat surface, and drive it wherever you want to go. It doesn't drive on wheels, but crawls like a silicon inchworm, making tens of thousands of 10-nanometer steps every second. It turns by putting a silicon 'foot' out and pivoting like a motorcyclist skidding around a tight turn. Because it makes use of this innovative bending movement and is untethered, it can move freely across a surface without the wires or rails that restricted the mobility of previously developed microrobots. The caterpillar strategy also helped the researchers avoid a common problem in microrobotics. Machines this small tend to stick to everything they touch, the way sand sticks to your feet after a day at the beach, said Craig McGray of the National Institute of Standards and Technology. So we built these microrobots without any wheels or hinged joints, which must slide smoothly on their bearings. Instead, these robots move by bending their bodies like caterpillars. At very small scales, this machine is surprisingly fast. To get around, the robot makes use of two independent microactuators - the robot's muscles. One is for forward motion and the other for turning. It doesn't have pre-programmed directions. Instead, it reacts to electric changes in the grid of electrodes it moves on. This grid also supplies the microrobot with the power needed to make these movements. This microrobot and similar versions that could be developed might eventually ensure information security, inspect and make repairs to integrated circuits, explore hazardous environments, or even manipulate human cells or tissues. This research will be presented in October at the International Symposium of Robotics Research in San Francisco. It will also be detailed in an upcoming issue of the Journal of Microelectrochemical Systems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] NASA to unveil plan for moon mission in 2018
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9355479 NASA to unveil plan for moon mission in 2018 White House officials briefed on $100 billion proposal Sept. 15, 2005 WASHINGTON - NASA briefed senior White House officials Wednesday on its plan to spend $100 billion and the next 12 years building the spacecraft and rockets it needs to put humans back on the Moon by 2018. The U.S. space agency now expects to roll out its lunar exploration plan to key Congressional committees on Friday and to the broader public through a news conference on Monday, Washington sources tell SPACE.com. U.S. President George W. Bush called in January 2004 for the United States to return to the Moon by 2020 as the first major step in a broader space exploration vision aimed at extending the human presence throughout the solar system. NASA has been working intensely since April on an exploration plan that entails building an 18-foot (5.5-meter) blunt body crew capsule and launchers built from major space shuttle components including the main engines, solid rocket boosters and massive external fuel tanks. That plan, called the Exploration Systems Architecture Study, was presented by NASA Administrator Mike Griffin, his space operations chief Bill Gerstenmaier and several other senior agency officials Wednesday afternoon to senior White House policy officials, including an advisor to U.S. Vice President Richard Cheney and the presidents Deputy National Security Advisor J.D. Crouch. NASAs plan, according to briefing charts obtained by SPACE.com, envisions beginning a sustained lunar exploration campaign in 2018 by landing four astronauts on the Moon for a seven-day stay. The expedition would begin, these charts show, by launching the lunar lander and Earth departure stage (essentially a giant propulsion module) on a heavy-lift launch vehicle that would be lifted into orbit by five space shuttle main engines and a pair of five-segment shuttle solid rocket boosters. Once the Earth departure stage and lunar lander are safely in orbit, NASA would launch the Crew Exploration Vehicle capsule atop a new launcher built from a four-segment shuttle solid rocket booster and an upper stage powered by a single space shuttle main engine. The CEV would then dock with the lunar lander and Earth departure stage and begin its several day journey to the moon. NASAs plan envisions being able to land four-person human crews anywhere on the Moons surface and to eventually use the system to transport crew members to and from a lunar outpost that it would consider building on the lunar south pole, according to the charts, because of the regions elevated quantities of hydrogen and possibly water ice. One of NASAs reasons for going back to the moon is to demonstrate that astronauts can essentially live off the land by using lunar resources to produce potable water, fuel and other valuable commodities. Such capabilities are considered extremely important to human expeditions to Mars which, because of the distances involved, would be much longer missions entailing a minimum of 500 days spent on the planets surface. NASAs Crew Exploration Vehicle is expected to cost $5.5 billion to develop, according to government and industry sources, and the Crew Launch Vehicle another $4.5 billion. The heavy-lift launcher, which would be capable of lofting 125 metric tons of payload, is expected to cost more than $5 billion but less than $10 billion to develop, according to these sources. NASAs plan also calls for using the Crew Exploration Vehicle, equipped with as many as six seats, to transport astronauts to and from the international space station. An unmanned version of the Crew Exploration Vehicle could be used to deliver a limited amount of cargo to the space station. NASA would like to field the Crew Exploration Vehicle by 2011, or within a year of when it plans to fly the space shuttle for the last time. Development of the heavy lift launcher, lunar lander and Earth departure stage would begin in 2011. By that time, according to NASAs charts, the space agency would expect to be spending $7 billion a year on its exploration efforts, a figure projected to grow to more than $15 billion a year by 2018, that date NASA has targeted for its first human lunar landing since Apollo 17 in 1972. © 2005 Space.com. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] OT -- moral dilemna
Try this --no cheating This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. No one else will know, so you wont be fooling anyone but yourself if you give anything but a truthful answer. The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please read slowly and thoughtfully, giving due consideration to each line. Here's the situation: You are in Florida; Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are a photo journalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury. Suddenly you see a man floundering in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer...somehow the man looks familiar. You suddenly realize who it is. It's George W.Bush, President of the United States!! At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under... forever. You have two options-you can save the life of G.W. Bush, or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful men. So here's the question, and please give an honest answer: Would you select high contrast color film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Braga: Threshold Won't Hold Back
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=32466 16-SEPTEMBER-05 Braga: Threshold Won't Hold Back Brannon Braga, co-creator and executive producer of CBS' upcoming SF suspense thriller, Threshold, told SCI FI Wire that the show will not be shy in explaining up front what its aliens are doing. It's bioforming, Braga (Star Trek: Enterprise) said in an interview. They're sending out this bizarre technological signal that mutates our DNA, [turning us] into them. There are no aliens. They're turning us into them. In Threshold, Carla Gugino stars as Dr. Molly Caffrey, the woman who wrote Operation: Threshold, a contingency plan that outlines what to do in case of an alien threat. When a cargo freighter discovers an extraterrestrial craft, Threshold is put into motion, and Caffrey must pull together a red team to investigate. Braga, who created the series with executive producers David S. Goyer and David Heyman, said he liked the idea of having a female protagonist. I liked the concept that she wrote this contingency plan about what if an alien intelligence came to Earth and it was hostile, he said. This plan was purely theoretical, and one day the government calls her and says it's really happening. So that her 'What if?' scenario becomes a 'What now?' scenario. And she really has to start planning this s--t, because it's really happening. Threshold is premiering amid a glut of new SF shows on the fall television schedule. But Braga believes that NBC's Surface and ABC's Invasion are very different shows. Threshold deals with a group of people who work for the government who are trying to stop the aliens. In a funny way, a lot of shows deal with government conspiracy, and there are the people in the shadows who you don't quite know what they're up to, Braga said. We are the conspiracy. We're leading the conspiracy. And they are going to do some shady things. The Threshold protocols are going to occasionally call for some gray areas to be explored. Threshold debuts with a two-hour premiere on Sept. 16 at 9 p.m. ET/PT. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] OT -- moral dilemna
Ouch! -- Original message -- Try this --no cheating This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. No one else will know, so you wont be fooling anyone but yourself if you give anything but a truthful answer. The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please read slowly and thoughtfully, giving due consideration to each line. Here's the situation: You are in Florida; Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are a photo journalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury. Suddenly you see a man floundering in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer...somehow the man looks familiar. You suddenly realize who it is. It's George W.Bush, President of the United States!! At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under... forever. You have two options-you can save the life of G.W. Bush, or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful men. So here's the question, and please give an honest answer: Would you select high contrast color film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white? SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Braga: Threshold Won't Hold Back
I wish them luck. Another Star Trek alum trying his hand. I bet Ronald Moore's success with Galactica is a great incentive. It's great to see a decent number of speculative fiction shows again, isn't it? Always fun and frustrating to see which are good, which stink, and whether the networks make the right choice in what they kill or keep. By the way, TV Guide has picked Threshold, along with Invasion and Supernatural, as three of its favorite shows. The ones they really dogged were Surface and, not surprisingly, Medium clone Ghost Whisperer. -- Original message -- http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=32466 16-SEPTEMBER-05 Braga: Threshold Won't Hold Back Brannon Braga, co-creator and executive producer of CBS' upcoming SF suspense thriller, Threshold, told SCI FI Wire that the show will not be shy in explaining up front what its aliens are doing. It's bioforming, Braga (Star Trek: Enterprise) said in an interview. They're sending out this bizarre technological signal that mutates our DNA, [turning us] into them. There are no aliens. They're turning us into them. In Threshold, Carla Gugino stars as Dr. Molly Caffrey, the woman who wrote Operation: Threshold, a contingency plan that outlines what to do in case of an alien threat. When a cargo freighter discovers an extraterrestrial craft, Threshold is put into motion, and Caffrey must pull together a red team to investigate. Braga, who created the series with executive producers David S. Goyer and David Heyman, said he liked the idea of having a female protagonist. I liked the concept that she wrote this contingency plan about what if an alien intelligence came to Earth and it was hostile, he said. This plan was purely theoretical, and one day the government calls her and says it's really happening. So that her 'What if?' scenario becomes a 'What now?' scenario. And she really has to start planning this s--t, because it's really happening. Threshold is premiering amid a glut of new SF shows on the fall television schedule. But Braga believes that NBC's Surface and ABC's Invasion are very different shows. Threshold deals with a group of people who work for the government who are trying to stop the aliens. In a funny way, a lot of shows deal with government conspiracy, and there are the people in the shadows who you don't quite know what they're up to, Braga said. We are the conspiracy. We're leading the conspiracy. And they are going to do some shady things. The Threshold protocols are going to occasionally call for some gray areas to be explored. Threshold debuts with a two-hour premiere on Sept. 16 at 9 p.m. ET/PT. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics
Yeah, I specifically left the Sisters out. Only been to Ohio once. Spent three days there , don't remember many Sisters. It was out where USG has its HQ. -- Original message -- Let's not forget Ohio...but then again, I'm talking about sistahs there... Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I hear ya. But doesn't Whedon have interesting tastes in women? I know in recent years the Hollywood mania for blondes has started to lessen a bit, with more brunettes in roles, but he really likes brunettes. Oh-and I figured out why I find both the lady who played Fred on Angel and Summer Glau to be so pretty: they're both Texas girls! Texas has some of the prettiest white women in the Union, up there with Chi-town and New York. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 04:11 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Yup, she's a cutie...But I am stuck on GinaWoof! Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Gina Torres is attractive, but who *really* floats my boat is Brazilian-Italian Morena Baccarin, who plays the Companion. That lady literally takes my breath away when she graces the screen. If you wanna know what kind of non-Black woman attracts me, just look at her. Most beautiful woman in a Whedon show outside Charisma Carpenter. The actress who plays River--Summer Glau--is very pretty too. She reminds me of the actress who played Fred on Angel who to my surprise turned out to be quite gorgeous once they stopped making Fred look so plain. You know, for a white guy, Whedon has interesting tastes in women. Note that he loves dark featured, dark haired white women, and is not a slave to the blonde look so many other white TV guys are. He also does a decent amount of work with people of color. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Wodehouse Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 19:51 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Fetching Gina Torres. sigh http://www.livejournal.com/community/firefly_daily/26907.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Genre http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Genre+magazinew1=Genre+magazinec= 1s=20.sig=sxGQiCtPJYwREaknMS9Glw magazine _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics
Don't forget Louisiana and California. I am a woman, and sometimes, even I am impressed. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Yeah, I specifically left the Sisters out. Only been to Ohio once. Spent three days there , don't remember many Sisters. It was out where USG has its HQ. -- Original message -- Let's not forget Ohio...but then again, I'm talking about sistahs there... Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I hear ya. But doesn't Whedon have interesting tastes in women? I know in recent years the Hollywood mania for blondes has started to lessen a bit, with more brunettes in roles, but he really likes brunettes. Oh-and I figured out why I find both the lady who played Fred on Angel and Summer Glau to be so pretty: they're both Texas girls! Texas has some of the prettiest white women in the Union, up there with Chi-town and New York. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 04:11 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Yup, she's a cutie...But I am stuck on GinaWoof! Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Gina Torres is attractive, but who *really* floats my boat is Brazilian-Italian Morena Baccarin, who plays the Companion. That lady literally takes my breath away when she graces the screen. If you wanna know what kind of non-Black woman attracts me, just look at her. Most beautiful woman in a Whedon show outside Charisma Carpenter. The actress who plays River--Summer Glau--is very pretty too. She reminds me of the actress who played Fred on Angel who to my surprise turned out to be quite gorgeous once they stopped making Fred look so plain. You know, for a white guy, Whedon has interesting tastes in women. Note that he loves dark featured, dark haired white women, and is not a slave to the blonde look so many other white TV guys are. He also does a decent amount of work with people of color. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Wodehouse Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 19:51 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Fetching Gina Torres. sigh http://www.livejournal.com/community/firefly_daily/26907.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Genre http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Genre+magazinew1=Genre+magazinec= 1s=20.sig=sxGQiCtPJYwREaknMS9Glw magazine _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --
Re: [scifinoir2] OT -- moral dilemna
What a dilemna! I am thinking the black and white. It's more timeless... - Original Message - From: Carole McDonnell To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] OT -- moral dilemna Try this --no cheating This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. No one else will know, so you wont be fooling anyone but yourself if you give anything but a truthful answer. The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please read slowly and thoughtfully, giving due consideration to each line. Here's the situation: You are in Florida; Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are a photo journalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury. Suddenly you see a man floundering in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer...somehow the man looks familiar. You suddenly realize who it is. It's George W.Bush, President of the United States!! At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under... forever. You have two options-you can save the life of G.W. Bush, or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful men. So here's the question, and please give an honest answer: Would you select high contrast color film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white? SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] OT -- moral dilemna
i would go with high color ... lmao Leslee Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a dilemna! I am thinking the black and white. It's more timeless... - Original Message - From: Carole McDonnell To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] OT -- moral dilemna Try this --no cheating This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. No one else will know, so you wont be fooling anyone but yourself if you give anything but a truthful answer. The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please read slowly and thoughtfully, giving due consideration to each line. Here's the situation: You are in Florida; Miami to be specific. There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are a photo journalist working for a major newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury. Suddenly you see a man floundering in the water. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer...somehow the man looks familiar. You suddenly realize who it is. It's George W.Bush, President of the United States!! At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under... forever. You have two options-you can save the life of G.W. Bush, or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful men. So here's the question, and please give an honest answer: Would you select high contrast color film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white? SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Science fiction and fantasy Music genres Genre magazine - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ I'm really easy to get along with, once you people learn to worship me yC/Omavi http://yusuf-chaotic.chaoticdreams.net http://www.chaoticdreams.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics
lol...You'll get no argument from me, Leslee... Leslee Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Don't forget Louisiana and California. I am a woman, and sometimes, even I am impressed. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Yeah, I specifically left the Sisters out. Only been to Ohio once. Spent three days there , don't remember many Sisters. It was out where USG has its HQ. -- Original message -- Let's not forget Ohio...but then again, I'm talking about sistahs there... Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I hear ya. But doesn't Whedon have interesting tastes in women? I know in recent years the Hollywood mania for blondes has started to lessen a bit, with more brunettes in roles, but he really likes brunettes. Oh-and I figured out why I find both the lady who played Fred on Angel and Summer Glau to be so pretty: they're both Texas girls! Texas has some of the prettiest white women in the Union, up there with Chi-town and New York. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 04:11 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Yup, she's a cutie...But I am stuck on GinaWoof! Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Gina Torres is attractive, but who *really* floats my boat is Brazilian-Italian Morena Baccarin, who plays the Companion. That lady literally takes my breath away when she graces the screen. If you wanna know what kind of non-Black woman attracts me, just look at her. Most beautiful woman in a Whedon show outside Charisma Carpenter. The actress who plays River--Summer Glau--is very pretty too. She reminds me of the actress who played Fred on Angel who to my surprise turned out to be quite gorgeous once they stopped making Fred look so plain. You know, for a white guy, Whedon has interesting tastes in women. Note that he loves dark featured, dark haired white women, and is not a slave to the blonde look so many other white TV guys are. He also does a decent amount of work with people of color. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Wodehouse Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 19:51 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] 'Serenity' Cast Pics Fetching Gina Torres. sigh http://www.livejournal.com/community/firefly_daily/26907.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Genre magazine - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Genre http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Genre+magazinew1=Genre+magazinec= 1s=20.sig=sxGQiCtPJYwREaknMS9Glw magazine _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
