Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Uhuru

2007-08-24 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I forgot about the top boy character description

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Tracey de Morsella wrote:

 Halle Berry of course. just kidding. Just remembering the storm
 casting decision for X-men. I do not think Uhura is in it. If so, it
 will likely be someone like Halle Berry

 Uhura is in the movie. Here's the casting sheet that was leaked 
 earlier this
 month:

  JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great 
 physical
  condition. 6 ft or less
 
  [LEONARD (BONES) MCCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, 
 clever and a
  bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.
 
  [UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!,
  Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a house full of 
 brothers.
 
  [SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on 
 the
  Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat.
 
  [MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship’s engineer. 
 Must be able
  to do a flawless Scottish accent!
 
 

 I've never thought of Uhura as tom-boyish... if Freema Agyeman can do an
 american accent, she's got my vote.

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[scifinoir2] Re: I was on BET's S.O.B

2007-08-24 Thread Meta
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Said Kakese Dibinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Okay folks, stop cringing.. The episode that I shot on BET's SOB
aired last night, but I didn't see it. I went to what I thought was a
job interview...
 
 We'll I found a link to the segment on youtube. Since none of you
have ever seen me, I'm the African man wearing a green suit. 
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=UEvcMK0JOKs
 
 Enjoy,
 
 Said
Wow! I thought at first the other 'applicants' were part of
the show. Nice to see that you wasn't going for it right
from the start and you did let the $$ change your mind. 
I will be showing this to my children.
Thanks,
Meta




Re: [scifinoir2] Jet Li Lowers Expectations for Film with Jackie Chan

2007-08-24 Thread Daryle

Sadly, Jean Claude Van Damme and Chuck Norris are more known to the public
than even Chow Yun Fat. If it weren¹t for Michelle Yeoh there would be a lot
of movies with martial arts in it with hardly  any Asian performers at ALL.


On 8/23/07 1:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  
  
  
 
 Well, I'm a bit bummed. I know they're older (though, Li is only a year older
 than me, and I guaranteed you *I* still got it!) but this is Hollywood. I was
 hoping that amble retakes, breaks, and splicing together of different shots
 would allow for something more action packed. If Li says, though, that it's
 not that kind of movie in the first place, then someone needs to tell the
 production company to stop marketing it as such. The stuff i've already read
 and scene emphasize these two martial arts masters.
 
 While we're on the subject I was watching Enter the Dragon for the eleventy
 millionth time with my wife, musing anew at Bruce Lee's presence and
 influence. We started discussing who if anyone in the martial arts cinema
 world comes closest to Bruce's star power. I could only think of two people.
 One is Chow Yun Fat, who isn't even a martial artist. But if you talk of the
 Hong Kong cinema world that was so influential in helping Lee and others, and
 expand past pure fighters, Fat definitely applies. He holds your attention
 onscreen like few Asian actors outside Ken Watanabe. But sticking to trained
 martial artists, the only person I can think of in the last few decades is Jet
 Li. He has the skills, the looks, the attitude that makes me take notice of
 him no matter what he's in. Not quite Bruce Lee, perhaps, but who is? I don't
 pretend to be an expert on Hong Kong cinema or martial arts movies, but who
 would you pick as the closet to having Bruce Lee's aura? On the female side,
 I've 
 always like Michelle Yeoh, but danged if I can think of any other men...
 
 **
 Jet Li: I'm Getting Too Old for Fighting
 By Associated Press
 2 hours ago
 HONG KONG - Jet Li is urging audiences to keep expectations low for his
 eagerly anticipated fight scenes with Jackie Chan in an upcoming film.
 He says it's not that kind of movie _ and they're both getting too old.
 When Jackie Chan and I first wanted to work together 15 years ago, our
 passion was at its peak. ... Our desire to succeed was very strong, the
 44-year-old Li told The Associated Press. Now we joke that when we watch the
 `The Forbidden Kingdom' our combined age is 100. (Chan is 53.)
 The martial arts stars come to blows in The Forbidden Kingdom, about an
 American teenager's fantasy journey to ancient China to rescue a mythological
 Monkey King, but Li warns:
 How intense are the battle scenes? My mentality is to not have high
 expectations.
 The film is tentatively scheduled for U.S. release next spring.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Uhuru

2007-08-24 Thread Martin
I don't get that either, Keith. In the Navy, doctors/surgeons are usually older 
when they become officers, because they're coming through OCS after they've 
completed their medical studies, which usually makes them 3-5 years older than 
an officer of corresponding grade.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why must Uhura be tomboyish? Is this another tough 
Black woman thing that whites so often love to cast?
And since when is Bones McCoy the same age as Kirk?

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Tracey de Morsella wrote:

Halle Berry of course. just kidding. Just remembering the storm 
casting decision for X-men. I do not think Uhura is in it. If so, it 
will likely be someone like Halle Berry

Uhura is in the movie. Here's the casting sheet that was leaked earlier this 
month:

 JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great physical 
 condition. 6 ft or less
 
 [LEONARD (BONES) MCCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, clever and a 
 bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.
 
 [UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!, 
 Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a house full of brothers.
 
 [SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on the 
 Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat.
 
 [MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship’s engineer. Must be able 
 to do a flawless Scottish accent!
 
 

I've never thought of Uhura as tom-boyish... if Freema Agyeman can do an 
american accent, she's got my vote.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Uhuru

2007-08-24 Thread Martin
Freema heart from bondage! YES!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
 Tracey de Morsella  wrote:
 
 Halle Berry of course.  just kidding.  Just remembering the storm 
 casting decision for X-men. I do not think Uhura is in it.  If so, it 
 will likely be someone like Halle Berry
 
 Uhura is in the movie. Here's the casting sheet that was leaked earlier this 
 month:
 
  JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great physical 
  condition. 6 ft or less
  
  [LEONARD (BONES) MCCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, clever and a 
  bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.
  
  [UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!, 
  Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a house full of brothers.
  
  [SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on the 
  Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat.
  
  [MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship’s engineer. Must be 
  able 
  to do a flawless Scottish accent!
  
  
 
 I've never thought of Uhura as tom-boyish... if Freema Agyeman can do an 
 american accent, she's got my vote.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: I was on BET's S.O.B

2007-08-24 Thread Martin
Said, my utmost respect to you in all ways, sir. I only made it through 4:15 of 
that before I had to click off. Had I been in the room with this, someone 
would've had to bail me out of jail...

Meta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   --- In 
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Said Kakese Dibinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Okay folks, stop cringing.. The episode that I shot on BET's SOB
 aired last night, but I didn't see it. I went to what I thought was a
 job interview...
  
  We'll I found a link to the segment on youtube. Since none of you
 have ever seen me, I'm the African man wearing a green suit. 
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=UEvcMK0JOKs
  
  Enjoy,
  
  Said
 Wow! I thought at first the other 'applicants' were part of
 the show. Nice to see that you wasn't going for it right
 from the start and you did let the $$ change your mind. 
 I will be showing this to my children.
 Thanks,
 Meta
 
 
 
   


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Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Hits the Road

2007-08-24 Thread Martin
If NBCUniversal had only pushed Dresden Files as hard...

Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=ef736b53-df37-4f8f-b36e-e4b0bd8c46a8
 
 Heroes Hits the Road
 
 by Gina Serpe
 
 Wed, 22 Aug 2007
 
 It's time for the Heroes to see the world they labored so long to save.
 
 A dozen major Heroes castmembers are set to embark on a previously
 announced seven-city world tour this weekend. The photo-op-friendly global
 tour coincides with (a) the DVD release of the NBC series' Emmy-nominated
 first season and (b) the show's debut in international territories and is
 also meant to ratchet up the buzz on the sci-fi hit's new season.
 
 The Heroes World Tour will include stops in Europe, Asia and North
 America, with the cast dividing and conquering the globe in groups of four
 apiece.
 
 The Brady Bunch went to the Grand Canyon, so this is pretty cool for us,
 Greg Grunberg said at a press conference last Thursday.
 
 The message of Heroes has always been about our world being a completely
 interconnected place, and this world tour is a celebration of that
 spirit, series creator Tim Kring said. We're all very excited to embark
 on this adventure next week and eager to hear from fans everywhere.
 
 Jack Coleman, Hayden Panettiere, Adrian Pasdar and Milo Ventimiglia, along
 with executive producer Dennis Hammer, will hit up Munich Aug. 26-27,
 Paris Aug. 28-29 and London Aug. 30 through Sept. 2.
 
 While they're launching their marketing initiative on an unsuspecting
 Europe, Grunberg, Ali Larter, Masi Oka and Sendhil Ramamurthy will be
 front the promotional bonanza's Asia leg, appearing in Tokyo, Hong Kong
 and Singapore on the same dates, while Noah Grey-Cabey, James Kyson Lee,
 Zachary Quinto and newcomer Dania Ramirez, accompanied by coexecutive
 producer Jeph Loeb and graphic-novel artist Tim Sale, will be sticking
 closer to home with stops in New York City and Toronto.
 
 In addition to gracing the respective cities with their heroic presence,
 the cast will be making personal appearances, engaging in meet-and-greets
 with fans, making TV appearances, attending - and, no doubt, causing -
 local media events and visiting various iconic landmarks along their tour.
 
 In Tokyo on Aug. 27, Grunberg, Larter, Oka and Ramamurthy will be hosting
 a movie-like red carpet premiere of their show, while in New York, Quinto
  Co. will be appearing the following day at an in-store DVD signing at
 the NBC Experience Store.
 
 NBC is touting the worldwide rendezvous as a carbon-neutral tour and has
 already announced plans to offset the hefty emissions the round-the-globe
 plane rides will cause by aiming to plant 188 trees in a Texas wildlife
 refuge to offset their carbon footprint. The tour is also donating green
 to the green cause, with 10 percent of the proceeds from merchandise sold
 at the Aug. 28 NYC signing to The Conservation Fund.
 
 For fans who haven't quite racked up the frequent-flier miles required to
 follow their Heroes abroad but who still wish to keep abreast of their
 every promotional movement, the entire tour, sponsored by Nissan, will be
 chronicled on NBC's Website, with daily postings on the cast's whereabouts
 and exclusive video of their adventures.
 
 The Emmy-nominated series kicked off production on its second season last
 week. The season premiere airs Sept. 24. The season one DVD is set for
 release Aug. 28.
 
 
 
   


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Uhuru

2007-08-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
little things like that irritate me. Sometimes the desire to only have younger 
people in movies bothers me too. But I'm confused. they said McCoy is a 
medic, not a doctor? What does that mean? Is he still in training? Will Kirk 
be a captain in this movie? If so, the lower age range of 23 is too young, 
though of course I guess they can get a younger actor and simply say he's late 
20s or whatever. how old was Kirk when he became captain? Picard was 26 - 28, 
and that was one of the youngest in Starfleet history.  
Of course, that Sister--Triala Scott--was stated as being the youngest captain 
in all of Starfleet history.

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I don't get that either, Keith. In the Navy, doctors/surgeons are usually older 
when they become officers, because they're coming through OCS after they've 
completed their medical studies, which usually makes them 3-5 years older than 
an officer of corresponding grade.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why must Uhura be tomboyish? Is this another tough 
Black woman thing that whites so often love to cast?
And since when is Bones McCoy the same age as Kirk?

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Tracey de Morsella wrote:

Halle Berry of course. just kidding. Just remembering the storm 
casting decision for X-men. I do not think Uhura is in it. If so, it 
will likely be someone like Halle Berry

Uhura is in the movie. Here's the casting sheet that was leaked earlier this 
month:

 JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great physical 
 condition. 6 ft or less
 
 [LEONARD (BONES) MCCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, clever and a 
 bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.
 
 [UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!, 
 Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a house full of brothers.
 
 [SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on the 
 Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat.
 
 [MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship’s engineer. Must be able 
 to do a flawless Scottish accent!
 
 

I've never thought of Uhura as tom-boyish... if Freema Agyeman can do an 
american accent, she's got my vote.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Jet Li Lowers Expectations for Film with Jackie Chan

2007-08-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
I was just talking to my wife this weekend about that. For years I wasn't able 
to see Chuck Norris films, because my folks had quit going to the movies. 
Fortunately those great ancient China kung fu movies became a staple on 
television, so I was able to say those later. But for a long time I thought I 
was missing something. Then, in college, I finally saw my first Chuck Norris 
flick and it was awful! Can't remember which one it was, but I was disappointed 
in every way possible. His onscreen fighting is probably more realistic than 
most, being pretty spare and full of roundhouse kicks (not appropriate so much 
in real fights, but still, okay). But I found his fighting to be boring. After 
seeing Bruce Wing Chun the hell out of people at near superhuman speeds, and 
years of watching flicks where dudes all but fly, Norris was a letdown. Then 
there was his screen presence--or lack thereof. The guy is just plain *boring*. 
I saw maybe two of his flicks, then quit watching them. Van Damme--
and while we're at it, let's list Dolph Lundgren and Steven Seagal--isn't much 
better. 

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sadly, Jean Claude Van Damme and Chuck Norris are more known to the public
than even Chow Yun Fat. If it weren¹t for Michelle Yeoh there would be a lot
of movies with martial arts in it with hardly any Asian performers at ALL.

On 8/23/07 1:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 
 
 
 Well, I'm a bit bummed. I know they're older (though, Li is only a year older
 than me, and I guaranteed you *I* still got it!) but this is Hollywood. I was
 hoping that amble retakes, breaks, and splicing together of different shots
 would allow for something more action packed. If Li says, though, that it's
 not that kind of movie in the first place, then someone needs to tell the
 production company to stop marketing it as such. The stuff i've already read
 and scene emphasize these two martial arts masters.
 
 While we're on the subject I was watching Enter the Dragon for the eleventy
 millionth time with my wife, musing anew at Bruce Lee's presence and
 influence. We started discussing who if anyone in the martial arts cinema
 world comes closest to Bruce's star power. I could only think of two people.
 One is Chow Yun Fat, who isn't even a martial artist. But if you talk of the
 Hong Kong cinema world that was so influential in helping Lee and others, and
 expand past pure fighters, Fat definitely applies. He holds your attention
 onscreen like few Asian actors outside Ken Watanabe. But sticking to trained
 martial artists, the only person I can think of in the last few decades is Jet
 Li. He has the skills, the looks, the attitude that makes me take notice of
 him no matter what he's in. Not quite Bruce Lee, perhaps, but who is? I don't
 pretend to be an expert on Hong Kong cinema or martial arts movies, but who
 would you pick as the closet to having Bruce Lee's aura? On the female side,
 I've 
 always like Michelle Yeoh, but danged if I can think of any other men...
 
 **
 Jet Li: I'm Getting Too Old for Fighting
 By Associated Press
 2 hours ago
 HONG KONG - Jet Li is urging audiences to keep expectations low for his
 eagerly anticipated fight scenes with Jackie Chan in an upcoming film.
 He says it's not that kind of movie _ and they're both getting too old.
 When Jackie Chan and I first wanted to work together 15 years ago, our
 passion was at its peak. ... Our desire to succeed was very strong, the
 44-year-old Li told The Associated Press. Now we joke that when we watch the
 `The Forbidden Kingdom' our combined age is 100. (Chan is 53.)
 The martial arts stars come to blows in The Forbidden Kingdom, about an
 American teenager's fantasy journey to ancient China to rescue a mythological
 Monkey King, but Li warns:
 How intense are the battle scenes? My mentality is to not have high
 expectations.
 The film is tentatively scheduled for U.S. release next spring.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Uhuru

2007-08-24 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Freema could be good... They will never go for it.

Tracey

Martin wrote:

 Freema heart from bondage! YES!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:keop7%40aol.com wrote:
 Tracey de Morsella wrote:

 Halle Berry of course. just kidding. Just remembering the storm
 casting decision for X-men. I do not think Uhura is in it. If so, it
 will likely be someone like Halle Berry

 Uhura is in the movie. Here's the casting sheet that was leaked 
 earlier this
 month:

  JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great 
 physical
  condition. 6 ft or less
 
  [LEONARD (BONES) MCCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, 
 clever and a
  bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.
 
  [UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!,
  Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a house full of 
 brothers.
 
  [SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on 
 the
  Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat.
 
  [MONTGOMERY( SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship’s engineer. 
 Must be able
  to do a flawless Scottish accent!
 
 

 I've never thought of Uhura as tom-boyish.. . if Freema Agyeman can do an
 american accent, she's got my vote.

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[scifinoir2] My Take - The Last Legion

2007-08-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
My quick take:
I was hoping for another Excalibur or King Arthur. I mean, common: Ben 
Kingsley! Instead, I got Xena-lite on the big screen. Predictable plot, lame 
action, cheap looking sets and FX, cliched, stereotyped characters. When a 
movie like this is good, the speeches and stuff are moving; when it's bad, you 
note how everyone keeps overusing phrases like my destiny or legends say, 
and seems to stand stiffly upright while saying it.  A day later I had to ask 
Phyllis about some of the 'plot points; a week later it's darn near 
impossible to write a review.  I'd have had more fun watching a Technicolor 
classic like Ivanhoe on TV; hell, Bing Crosby in A Connecticut Yankee in 
King Arthur's Court might have been more entertaining!

My full take:
I love good movies about knights fighting epic battles for the good of the 
realm. I love good movies dealing with the legend of King Arthur. And I even 
love good revisionist films that take a new angle on the Arthurian legend. 
Unfortunately, “The Last Legion” doesn’t fit into any of these categories. 
While not a bad movie, it’s too bland and by-the-numbers to be enjoyable.
 
The movie starts with a cultured-sounding narrator (Ben Kingsley, in it for the 
paycheck I guess) speaking about the legend of a great sword, forged from the 
heart of a falling star for Julius Caesar. The sword, we’re told, is passed 
down to subsequent generations of Caesars, serving as a symbol of justice and 
right to aid their wise rule of the Roman Empire.  Sometime during Rome’s long 
decline, the sword is lost; hidden, legends say, until the day a worthy 
successor finds it.
 
The intro alone threw me. While I don’t mind new takes on legends, I never 
imagined Excalibur (and if this is a spoiler, sorry, but you’d figure it out 
about two minutes into the movie anyway) as being a tool of the Romans.  Yeah, 
I know: not all leaders of Rome were evil and sadistic. There were indeed some 
pretty decent guys wearing the purple. But still: Excalibur crafted for Caesar? 
Somehow it just doesn’t feel right having the pagan/Christian blade of legend 
start out like that. 
 
Anyway, enter Romulus, a boy descended from Caesar himself, who has been raised 
to be a man of honor. At the death of the current ruler, Romulus becomes 
emperor—but the moment is short lived. See, the evil Goth leader Odoacer, 
ticked at not getting amply rewarded for his years of mercenary service to 
Rome, decides to attack. Rome is thrown into chaos, Romulus’ parents are 
killed, and Romulus himself is banished to an island  for the rest of his life. 
 
 
But luck is on his side. Romulus finds the fabled sword of legend on the island 
(in a truly hard to believe setup), and is then rescued by his sworn protector 
Aurelius (Colin Firth), in another contrived scene. Aurelius is an honorable 
soldier who leads a legion of honorable soldiers. After they’re betrayed by 
their fellows, this Last Legion goes on the run, fleeing the pursuing Goths, 
and ultimately making their way to Britain. They’re aided by Romulus’ teacher 
and mentor, the mysterious Merl—I mean Ambrosinus--(Ben Kingsley sleepwalking 
his way through one of those cookie cutter wise-old-sage-with-a-British-accent 
roles). Through hardship and despair and battle, the Legion and their charge 
fight their way to victory, and help spawn a legend. 

Yawn.
 
If my summary seems bored or hurried, well, so is the movie. There’s not much 
original or engaging here. True, the idea that Arthur is descended from the 
Caesars could be intriguing if handled properly, but here it really doesn’t 
matter, as any original ideas are lost in such average execution.  The plot’s 
so predictable you can literally guess what’s coming next. All of the sets and 
locales are barely adequate, as if the budget couldn’t keep up with the 
producers’ dreams of a glorious epic. Clichés abound:  an exotic warrior woman 
(Bollywood superstar Aishwarya Rai), cast out from her people, who of course 
falls in love with the European stud…a Big Black Guy as the muscle, less a 
skilled fighter than he is a brawler (one guess as to whether he lives)…Central 
Casting villains in the form of the Goths, so savagely barbaric you expect them 
to feast on children between battles. Think I should tell Hollywood that 
barbarian actually meant non-Greco/Roman and didn't *automatically* m
ean murdering psychopath? Anyone on this list of Germanic descent--man, your 
ancestors were nasty! 
 
As Romulus, Thomas Sangster is all big innocent eyes, and spends his time 
getting into one contrived dangerous situation after another. Firth looks okay 
as a Roman soldier, but somehow seems wrong for the role. Aurelius is meant to 
be war weary and earnest, but I just kept thinking his expression looked more 
like someone frowning from a nagging headache or gas.  “Wooden” would be an 
accurate description of his acting. Or is he still doing the stiff dude act 
from the Bridget Jones films?  Kingsley’s 

Re: [scifinoir2] I was on BET's S.O.B

2007-08-24 Thread Daryle
I¹m proud of you, man! I would have personally lost it when they sent the
two cats in acting drunk. But good for you for staying cool and calling dude
out about ³Geronimo².

Did you see the cameras during the interview?


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 Okay folks, stop cringing.. The episode that I shot on BET's SOB aired last
 night, but I didn't see it. I went to what I thought was a job interview...
 
 We'll I found a link to the segment on youtube. Since none of you have ever
 seen me, I'm the African man wearing a green suit.
 
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[scifinoir2] Queen Guitarist Gets Doctorate in Astrophysics

2007-08-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
A sound lesson that it's never too late--and that you can always try different 
things  

LONDON - Guitarist and songwriter Brian May has completed his doctorate in 
astrophysics _ three decades after he put academia on hold to form the rock 
group Queen.
The rocker was awarded his qualification Thursday by London's Imperial College 
and said submitting his thesis, Radial Velocities in the Zodiacal Dust Cloud, 
to supervisors was as nerve-racking as any stadium gig.
I'm feeling rather joyful. I cannot tell you how much of a weight off the mind 
it is, May said late Thursday.
May was an astrophysics student at Imperial College when he joined Freddie 
Mercury and Roger Taylor to form Queen in 1970, but dropped his doctorate as 
the glam rock band became successful. Queen became one of Britain's biggest 
music groups in the 1970s, with hits including Bohemian Rhapsody and We Will 
Rock You.
Following Mercury's 1991 death, May produced two solo albums, the latest of 
which, Another World appeared in 1998.
But the guitarist continued to pursue his out-of-this-world interests _ and 
last year co-authored a book titled Bang! The Complete History of the 
Universe.
He told reporters Thursday that handing over his completed thesis _ a 48,000 
word study which seeks to prove planets and dust clouds in our solar system 
orbit in the same direction _ and facing examiners for a review of his work was 
a tough challenge.
It was a bit nerve-racking walking into the room, but once we got going it was 
fascinating, May said. There's always that feeling they could ask that big 
question that could sink you, but luckily they didn't.
May will be formally presented with his doctorate next May at a ceremony at 
London's Royal Albert Hall.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Uhuru

2007-08-24 Thread Martin
If memory serves, Kirk was 29 when he became a captain.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: little things like that irritate me. Sometimes the 
desire to only have younger people in movies bothers me too. But I'm confused. 
they said McCoy is a medic, not a doctor? What does that mean? Is he still in 
training? Will Kirk be a captain in this movie? If so, the lower age range of 
23 is too young, though of course I guess they can get a younger actor and 
simply say he's late 20s or whatever. how old was Kirk when he became captain? 
Picard was 26 - 28, and that was one of the youngest in Starfleet history.  
Of course, that Sister--Triala Scott--was stated as being the youngest captain 
in all of Starfleet history.

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin  
I don't get that either, Keith. In the Navy, doctors/surgeons are usually older 
when they become officers, because they're coming through OCS after they've 
completed their medical studies, which usually makes them 3-5 years older than 
an officer of corresponding grade.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why must Uhura be tomboyish? Is this another tough 
Black woman thing that whites so often love to cast?
And since when is Bones McCoy the same age as Kirk?

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Tracey de Morsella wrote:

Halle Berry of course. just kidding. Just remembering the storm 
casting decision for X-men. I do not think Uhura is in it. If so, it 
will likely be someone like Halle Berry

Uhura is in the movie. Here's the casting sheet that was leaked earlier this 
month:

 JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great physical 
 condition. 6 ft or less
 
 [LEONARD (BONES) MCCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, clever and a 
 bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.
 
 [UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!, 
 Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a house full of brothers.
 
 [SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on the 
 Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat.
 
 [MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship’s engineer. Must be able 
 to do a flawless Scottish accent!
 
 

I've never thought of Uhura as tom-boyish... if Freema Agyeman can do an 
american accent, she's got my vote.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Uhuru

2007-08-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
Wonder if Sulu will also be gay, the way George Takei is in real life?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
This is JJ Abrams. Has he written a female character that didn't have
issues? She couldn't be both brilliant (she once single-handedly rewired the
entire communications system of the Enterprise from the Bridge) and
attractive. She has to have a shady past.

I got a good chuckle out of that Young Hikaru Sulu has to be a bit of a
wildcat. The dude's first job on the Enterprise was staff Physicist.
Basically, the biggest geek on the Federation flagship. Wildcat. This movie
should be interesting.

On 8/23/07 11:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 why must Uhura be tomboyish? Is this another tough Black woman thing that
 whites so often love to cast?
 And since when is Bones McCoy the same age as Kirk?
 
 -- Original message --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Tracey de Morsella wrote:
 
 Halle Berry of course. just kidding. Just remembering the storm
 casting decision for X-men. I do not think Uhura is in it. If so, it
 will likely be someone like Halle Berry
 
 Uhura is in the movie. Here's the casting sheet that was leaked earlier this
 month:
 
 JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great physical
 condition. 6 ft or less
 
 [LEONARD (BONES) MCCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, clever and a
 bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.
 
 [UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!,
 Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a house full of brothers.
 
 [SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on the
 Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat.
 
 [MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship’s engineer. Must be able
 to do a flawless Scottish accent!
 
 
 
 I've never thought of Uhura as tom-boyish... if Freema Agyeman can do an
 american accent, she's got my vote.
 
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 Table of Contents



 1. Intuit's Vibe...Baroque Down Blankety-blank ...By B. Nice
 2. Bit of History...Whitney Moore Young, Jr.
 3. Hood Notes...Segregation and Racism in Jena
 4. News You Use...Support Jena 6
 5. Venue for an Artist...Letter to Judge J.P. Mauffray...Dr. Donald H. 
 Smith
 6. Disgruntled
 7. Mailbox



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 Intuit's Vibe
 Baroque Down Blankety-blank
 By B. Nice



 Democracy broke down by the side of the road
 Glaring beams of headlights
 mark time while waiting to be towed
 One man one vote
 A slogan someone wrote on the shithouse wall
 Before the fall
 Falling leaves prophesied the coming winter
 Freeze the day...Sleaze the way
 From Kings and Queens
 To men of means and property
 The torch passes sloppily often falling on the floor
 Setting fire to the Bushes
 Smoldering underneath the fresh
 Gore of slain princes and kings
 The rule law ...Lawless rulers
 Preparing gruel to feed the scholars
 who school free blind mice to get ready to pay
 the price padded with requisite inflation
 Spilling blood to feed our nation
 Changing the station I could suddenly hear
 JC playing a love supreme
 We voted for Utopia
 Eventually, we will win







 Bit of History
 Whitney Moore Young, Jr.



 Every man is our brother, and every man's burden is our own. Where
 poverty exists, all are poorer. Where hate flourishes, all are corrupted.
 Where injustice reins, all are unequal.



 Whitney Moore Young, Jr. was born July 31, 1921 in Lincoln Ridge,
 Kentucky.  He was raised, educated and graduated valedictorian from the
 Lincoln Institute, where his father served as president.  His mother,
 Laura, was the first black American postmaster in Kentucky and the second
 in the United States.  Young received his B. S. degree at Kentucky State
 College (1941).



 During World War II, Young received training in electrical engineering at
 MIT. He was assigned to a road construction crew of black soldiers
 supervised by Southern white officers.  After just three weeks, he was
 promoted from private to first sergeant. Despite the tension his promotion
 created, Young was an effective mediator between the white officers and
 black soldiers angry about  their poor treatment.  After the war, Young
 joined his wife, Margaret, at the University of Minnesota, where he earned
 a Masters Degree in social work (1947).



 From 1947-1949, Young served as the industrial relations secretary of the
 St. Paul, Minnesota branch of the National Urban League.  He moved to
 Omaha, Nebraska and assumed duties as executive secretary of that branch.
 In 1950, he became the Omaha branch president.



 From 1954 to 1961, Young served as dean of the Atlanta University School
 of Social Work. He pushed for federal aid to cities, proposing a domestic
 Marshall Plan, which was partially incorporated into President Lyndon B.
 Johnson's War on Poverty.  He described his proposals for integration,
 social programs and affirmative action in his two books, To Be Equal
 (1964) and Beyond Racism (1969).



 As executive director of the National Urban League (1961-1971), Young
 focused on gaining equality for blacks in business and politics and
 improving opportunities for the urban poor. He appealed to corporate
 leaders to support job programs, low-income housing and education for
 blacks.  He advised presidents Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon on race.



 Young was president of the National Association of Social Workers and the
 National Conference on Social Welfare.  He served on the boards and
 advisory committees of the Rockefeller Foundation, Urban Coalition and
 Urban Institute.  In 1969, Young received the Medal of Freedom, the
 nation's highest civilian award.  Young's many friendships with US
 business and political leaders caused considerable controversy in the
 black community.  But, Young believed it was important to maintain
 communication with the centers of financial and political power, no matter
 how these race relations might be in the nation's streets and schools.



 On March 11, 1971, Young drowned while swimming with friends in Lagos,
 Nigeria, where he was attending a conference sponsored by the
 African-American Institute.  (Sources:  www.aaregistry.com,
 http://en.wikipedia.org/ and www.infoplease.com/)








 Hood Notes
 Segregation and Racism in Jena



 On Tuesday, July 31, 2007, hundreds of people gathered in Jena, a little
 central Louisiana town, to protest the conviction of a sixteen year-old
 black student and the