Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
Keith, our Jawja, our Jawja...

What I'm waiting for now is the person who decides to start robbing banks with 
a concealed weapon.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made 
here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go 
kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried 
in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or 
criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only 
having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being 
hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me!  And who the heck wants 
to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just 
rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free 
piece???  Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some 
people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at 
school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that 
assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back
 of a room and spray the crowd with an auto
matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, 
and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the 
good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting 
hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard 
and trying to draw a bead under such duress.  And i'd hate to think the dude 
tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing!

And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me 
longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it 
would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill?

*

Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage
Opponent says legislators will regret move 

By ANDREA JONES
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/04/08 
Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places 
under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night.
An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits 
to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other 
public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a 
major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long 
as it's okay with the company.
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Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has 
been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two 
years, called it a good piece of legislation.
We're gratified that the bill passed, he said.
But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the 
bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was 
watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease 
property the right to forbid guns in their lots.
Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly 
legislation.
It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I 
think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later.
Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting 
the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious 
position �- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that 
backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it.
When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to 
allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks 
and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version.
The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more 
then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns 
are also prohibited from drinking.
The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring 
probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request.

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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(

2008-04-05 Thread KeithBJohnson
thank you! That's my point. And exactly how many times a day in this entire 
country do we have mass killings or hostage situations where everyday citizens 
will be needed to brandish their own weapons? I'm not against responsible gun 
ownership, but this is ridiculous.

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From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Keith, our Jawja, our Jawja...

What I'm waiting for now is the person who decides to start robbing banks with 
a concealed weapon.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made 
here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go 
kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried 
in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or 
criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only 
having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being 
hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants 
to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just 
rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free 
piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some 
people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at 
school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that 
assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back
of a room and spray the crowd with an auto
matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, 
and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the 
good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting 
hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard 
and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude 
tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing!

And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me 
longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it 
would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill?

*

Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage
Opponent says legislators will regret move 

By ANDREA JONES
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/04/08 
Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places 
under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night.
An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits 
to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other 
public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a 
major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long 
as it's okay with the company.
RELATED LINKS:
� More about this year's Legislature

Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has 
been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two 
years, called it a good piece of legislation.
We're gratified that the bill passed, he said.
But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the 
bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was 
watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease 
property the right to forbid guns in their lots.
Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly 
legislation.
It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I 
think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later.
Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting 
the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious 
position �- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that 
backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it.
When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to 
allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks 
and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version.
The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more 
then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns 
are also prohibited from drinking.
The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring 
probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request.

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[scifinoir2] NBC Unveils SF-Heavy Slate

2008-04-05 Thread tdemorsella
NBC unveiled a 2008-'09 television schedule that's dominated by new
and returning SF, fantasy and horror programming, including a series
revival of Knight Rider and a new anthology series called Fear Itself,
as well as the renewal of Medium, whose fate had been in question.

The announcements came at the network's infront (the new nickname
for upfronts) presentation to advertisers in New York on April 2.

The shows and miniseries will be part of the network's ambitious
52-week program strategy and will premiere anytime between this May
and summer 2009.

The new series include Kings, Fear Itself and Knight Rider, all of
which had been expected to make the schedule, as well as the surprise
entries My Own Worst Enemy and The Listener.

Waiting in the wings is Merlin. Also on the way is The Last Templar, a
Da Vinci Code-esque miniseries.

Returning shows include Chuck and Heroes, which had previously been
announced and which will premiere in September, and Medium, which was
reportedly on the bubble but will return next winter for a fifth season.

Speaking of the NBC slate in his presentation, Ben Silverman,
co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and Universal Media Studios, said,
There is a ton of noise out there. There is a cacophony of crap. Even
the sports pages are filled with scandal. We need to break through and
deliver eternal themes and heroic themes and entertaining themes and
escapist themes. We're going to give you real heroes and superheroes,
and we're going to engage you with our content in a dramatic,
emotional way.

Debuting on May 29:

Fear Itself. The show, a horror anthology series from the makers of
Masters of Horror, will feature such stars as John Billingsley and
Shiri Appleby and showcase the talents of directors including Brad
Anderson, Mary Harron, Ernest Dickerson, Ronny Yu, John Carpenter and
Stuart Gordon.

Shows on the fall 2008-'09 schedule:

Chuck, airing Mondays at 8 p.m. ET/PT.

Heroes, airing Mondays at 9 p.m.

My Own Worst Enemy, airing Mondays at 10 p.m. Christian Slater makes
his television series debut as Henry Spivey, an efficiency expert and
married father of two who learns that he has an alter ego named Edward
Albright, an operative who speaks numerous languages and can kill with
his teeth. The network is touting it as Jekyll and Hyde meets Jason
Bourne. Heroes veteran David Semel directed the pilot and will stay
on as executive producer.

Knight Rider, airing Wednesdays at 8 p.m. NBC scored a hit with a
two-hour backdoor pilot movie that aired in February, and the series
picks up where the movie left off. K.I.T.T., the supercar with a mind
of its own, returns, as do stars Justin Bruening, Deanna Russo, Sydney
Tamiia Poitier and Bruce Davison.

Shows debuting in winter 2009:

Merlin, airing Sundays at 8 p.m. A fantasy series set in Camelot but
inspired by 21st-century storytelling, Merlin stars Colin Morgan
(Doctor Who) as the title character and Bradley James as Arthur, and
it explores the characters' lives before they became legends. Co-stars
include Anthony Head (Buffy the Vampire Slayer), Richard Wilson and
Angel Coulby.

Kings, airing Sundays at 10. A modern-day spin on the King David tale,
the show stars Christopher Egan as David and Ian McShane as the king.
Michael Green (Heroes) penned the pilot and will executive-produce. I
Am Legend helmer Francis Lawrence directed the pilot and will
executive-produce the series as well.

Series debuting in summer 2009:

The Listener, airing Thursdays at 10 p.m. Toby Logan (Craig Olejinik
of Thirteen Ghosts) is a 24-year-old paramedic and telepath who's
always ignored his ability to hear people's thoughts ... until now.
Having changed his mind, he uses his unique gift to help others.

Miniseries debuting in 2009:

The Last Templar. In this four-hour miniseries, four horsemen dressed
as knights crash the New York Metropolitan Museum during the opening
of an exhibition of Vatican treasures and swipe an arcane medieval
decoder, thereby sending an archaeologist (Mira Sorvino) and an FBI
agent (Scott Foley) on a wild chase for the secrets of the Knights
Templar. Co-stars include Victor Garber and Omar Sharif.

(NBC is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Ian Spelling
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[scifinoir2] Bionic Failure Informs Knight

2008-04-05 Thread tdemorsella
Bionic Failure Informs Knight

Ben Silverman, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and Universal Media
Studios, said that the network took the lessons it learned the hard
way from its failed reboot Bionic Woman and applied them to the
upcoming remake of Knight Rider.

Bionic Woman started off well, then sputtered out creatively and in
the ratings, and it was not renewed for a second season. NBC conceded
that the rush to get the show on air ultimately hurt it.

Moving forward with Knight Rider after the success of a backdoor pilot
that aired in February, the network elected to take its time with the
weekly version, a sequel to the original 1980s series that starred
David Hasselhoff.

We saw it with [Fox's] Terminator [The Sarah Connor Chronicles], and
we saw it with Bionic Woman: big openings, big branded titles, draw
open the tent, and the show didn't deliver on that $10 million pilot,
Silverman said in response to a SCI FI Wire question during the
network's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York on April 2.
What we're doing with Knight Rider is we consciously delivered it on
air [in February] so that we had nine months to make sure that series
is great.

To wit, Silverman said, NBC recently tapped Gary Scott Thompson as the
Knight Rider show runner. Thompson most recently was show runner on
NBC's hit series Las Vegas, and he also knows from cars--having
scripted The Fast and the Furious--and from SF, having penned the
story for Hollow Man.

We just brought on [Thompson] to be our partner on it creatively,
Silverman said. We're hiring a staff. We're hiring the cast. We're
honing the writing crew. And we're ensuring that the show lives up to
the audience's expectation. The audience turned on and tuned in to the
two-hour movie premiere. Now we need to make sure they come in week in
and week out, and for that we've got to take a rigorous
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Knight Rider will premiere in the fall. (NBC is owned by NBC
Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Ian Spelling 




[scifinoir2] Heroes Will Air In A Block

2008-04-05 Thread tdemorsella
Heroes Will Air In A Block

NBC's returning genre shows--Heroes, Chuck and Medium--will each air a
full complement of original episodes next season, in contrast to this
year's strike-truncated season, with Heroes and Chuck set to air
without repeats through December.

The announcements came at the network's presentation to advertisers in
New York on April 2.

We not only have the biggest star of TV, we have movie stars on NBC,
Ben Silverman, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and Universal Media
Studios, said during the presentation. The talent on NBC are the
breakout talent and the cultural, relevant, leading icons of all of
television. It's a hallmark of what we do, and as you'll see, ... all
of your favorites are coming back.

Heroes will return to the schedule on Sept. 15 with an hourlong clip
show premiering at 8 p.m. ET/PT and a two-hour season premiere airing
at 9 p.m., its regular timeslot.

Chuck, meanwhile, will debut in the fall in its regular Monday 8 p.m.
timeslot. Rounding out a night of genre fare, newcomer My Own Worst
Enemy--starring Christian Slater as a man with a Mr. Hyde-like alter
ego--will air at 10 p.m.

Medium was one of several surprise renewals. It, along with Lipstick
Jungle and Friday Night Lights, was considered on the bubble, as
likely to be axed as to return. The Patricia Arquette series, about a
psychic family woman who helps solve crimes, will return to the
schedule in either late 2008 or early 2009 in a new timeslot.

Medium is on Sunday nights at 9 right now, following [newcomer]
Merlin into [the previously announced new series ] Kings, Silverman
said. I don't know the exact day we premiere all of that. I think
it's February 23, but I'm not sure.

(NBC is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Ian Spelling
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[scifinoir2] Heroes Returns; Origins Dies

2008-04-05 Thread tdemorsella
Heroes Returns; Origins Dies

Heroes will return to NBC on Sept. 15 with an expanded third-season
opener, but network executives confirmed that the proposed prequel
spinoff, Heroes: Origins, is officially dead.

We consciously chose to rest [Heroes] this spring so that [creator]
Tim Kring and his team could get ahead of the creative and build up to
a massive event--a three-hour Heroes night, Ben Silverman,
co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and Universal Media Studios, said
during the network's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York
on April 2. On Monday, Sept. 15, we'll kick off with a Heroes clip
show to try to bring back the audience and [then air] a massive
two-hour Heroes film.

Silverman also explained why the heavily hyped, much-anticipated
Heroes: Origins was scrapped. The show was originally conceived to
help eliminate Heroes repeats, and directors and writers--including
feature-film vets Kevin Smith, Eli Roth and Michael Dougherty--were
already lined up before NBC dropped the idea.

We were taxing our creative team to do too much around that,
Silverman said. We wanted 35 Heroes [episodes] and 12 Heroes:
Origins, each of which was supposed to be a mini-movie and backdoor
pilot. We reached far and challenged our people, and we decided it was
better to focus on keeping the Heroes mothership as strong as possible.

Heroes will air Mondays at 9 p.m. ET/PT. (NBC is owned by NBC
Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Ian Spelling 
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[scifinoir2] 'Battlestar Galactica' Plan Subject To Change

2008-04-05 Thread tdemorsella
By MICHAEL HINMAN
Source: SyFy Portal
Apr-02-2008

Before every episode, watchers of Battlestar Galactica are told the
Cylons have a plan, a plan which has been sliced up and given to its
audience in small doses.

While the Cylons are planning, the writers behind Battlestar
Galactica are sometimes playing it by ear, allowing the natural flow
of storytelling to help lay out the path that will bring the show to
its highly anticipated series finale.

The truth is, nothing's nailed down until the final episode is
written, shot and edited, David Weddle, supervising producer of
Battlestar Galactica and one of the writers of Friday's Season 4
premiere told SyFy Portal's Michael Hinman. Everything is always in
flux and anything could still happen. That's what makes it such an
exciting show to write and to watch.

That doesn't mean there won't be continuity, because the writing team
that includes Weddle and partner in crime Bradley Thompson have been
utilizing the technique of retroactive continuity, or as fans like to
call it, the retcon. Finding a retcon isn't easy because viewers
typically don't know what was planned out ahead of time, and what was
simply picked up from previous episodes to run with.

Many fans had questioned whether or not the mysterious painting found
on the wall of Starbuck's apartment in the second season episode of
Valley of Darkness that was featured in later episodes was part of
the plan all along, or a retcon.

Fans now have their answer.

The mandala that Kara painted since she was a child and that later
showed up in the clouds to lure her to her 'death' was something Brad
and I went back and discovered when we were writing 'Rapture,' Weddle
said. Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore wanter her to see something
on the Temple of Five on the algae planet that would relate to a
larger destiny, something that no one else would recognize. We went
back and screened the scenes from 'Valley of Darkness' and noticed the
mandala that she had painted on her apartment wall. That gave us the
idea to put it on the temple and to build it into her backstory in
'Maelstrom.'

None of the story surrounding the mandala was planned out ahead of
time, Weddle said. In spite of that, they were able to develop a
strong story, and find ways to link different aspects of the series
together, and the same will happen with Maelstrom, and how that will
affect Starbuck's final journey in the fourth season.

'Maelstrom' is permeated with clues that will have unexpected payoffs
in future episodes, as are all of the other episodes, Weddle said.
Sometimes even the writers don't know which details will turn out to
be critical clues because of the organic way in which the show is
written. This is because we build on what we've already written,
rather than map out every little detail ahead of time.

The genesis of the Maelstrom actually came from executive producer
David Eick, who had pitched an idea about Apollo and Starbuck having
to fight a Viper dogfight in the dark, and at the bleakest moment when
they both thought they were going to die, they learned something about
each other that changed their relationship.

When the room went to break the show, we began to wonder whether that
was really the story we wanted to tell, Thompson said. David Weddle
remembered something Katee [Sackhoff] had said she wanted to do -- pay
off the clues about the relationship she had with her mother. So with
that as a starting point, the room went back at the story to go to the
dogfight and Kara going down.

But it wouldn't end there. That's when Moore offered an idea that
would eventually get fandom up in arms, and created one of the more
memorable moments of Season 3.

I believe it was Ron who said, 'The whole audience is sure Lee will
pull her out at the last minute. We should kill her,' Thompson said.
Thus it was spoken, thus it became. And once it was, we pondered the
wondrous door that had opened. And a man appeared on a flaming pie and
said, 'Henceforth, you are Battlestar with an A.'

The overall story may have moved to a stronger focus on Starbuck, but
just as she states in the series, her fate has already been laid out
by the writers and producers.

Ron Moore had some very strong ideas about Starbuck and the ultimate
role she would play in the broad canvas of the series, and that
figured very strongly in the writing of 'Maelstrom,' Weddle said.
But the specifics of Starbuck's journey and how it would play out in
Season 4 were not nailed down until we had our writer's retreat in
Lake Tahoe to map out Season 4. And there are still many details that
have not been fleshed out.

As Battlestar Galactica prepares its spot in the annals of
television history, a lot of question has surfaced on how the show
will be remembered. Will it be known as the show that carried only the
name of a 1970s show? Will it be considered the innovator on a new way
to approach science-fiction? Or will it simply be a television show?

Both Weddle and Thompson 

[scifinoir2] Series Creators Depart 'Smallville'

2008-04-05 Thread tdemorsella
By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
Source: TV Guide
Apr-03-2008

They developed the Superman mythology for television, but now
Smallville creators have gone up, up and away, leaving the series
far behind.

In a mildly shocking announcement, Al Gough and Miles Millar have
confirmed that they will depart Smallville after the conclusion of
the current seventh season, despite The CW picking the series up for
yet another year. No real reason for their exit has been announced,
however in their love letter to fans the dynamic duo have said only
that it is time for them to move on and also thanked the entire cast
and crew for their efforts over the years, as well as the viewers who
helped turn the series into such a success.

Over the last seven years we have had the honor of working with a
remarkable team of people here in Los Angeles and in Vancouver, the
two said in an open letter to the fans. We have been blessed with a
wonderful cast who we have watched mature with admiration and
affection. We have been rewarded with a fan base that is as loyal as
it is vocal.

Both Gough and Millar said they were proud of the work they did on
Smallville, and that they accomplished everything they set out to do
on the show without ever compromising their vision.

We leave knowing that 'Smallivlle' is the longest-running comic
book-based series of all time, they said. The show was featured on
the covers of Rolling Stone, Mad Magazine, TV Guide and Entertainment
Weekly. The pilot had the highest-rated premiere in the history of The
WB.

Gough and Millar haven't cleared out of their offices just yet, but
The CW has already been looking for replacements for the two, deciding
on elevating Darren Swimmer, Todd Slavkin, Kelly Souders and Brian
Peterson to leadership roles on the show.

Al Gough and Miles Millar have been great partners and instrumental
in the development and success of 'Smallville,' a CW representative
said. Swimmer and company have been writing for the show for the past
six seasons, and as producers for the last four years. They have
played an integral role in the ongoing creative evolution of the
series. As showrunners, they will continue to deliver the compelling
storyline that 'Smallville' fans have come to expect and love.

 Gough and Miller aren't the only ones departing the series in the
eighth season as show stars Michael Rosenbaum and Kristen Kruek (who
play Lex Luthor and Lana Lang) have also confirmed that they will not
be back full time next year. Reports also suggest that at least one
other character will be permanently leaving the show.

Throughout its seven-year run, Smallville has not only tackled the
many facets of the Superman mythos, but also that of several other
popular comic book characters. Among their ranks are The
Flash/Impulse, Cyborg, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Black Canary and more
recently Supergirl. The series has developed a strong online following
and has featured various guest stars from other Superman projects
including Dean Caine, Margot Kidder and Christopher Reeve.

Smallville airs Thursdays at 9 p.m. ET on The CW.
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Re: [scifinoir2] 'Battlestar Galactica' Plan Subject To Change

2008-04-05 Thread Gymfig
Battlestar was good last night. 
 
There are some good writers on that show. 



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[scifinoir2] Stan Lee Preps Three New Films

2008-04-05 Thread Tracey de Morsella

Stan Lee Preps Three New Films 


Comics legend creates original characters for Disney.


by Orlando Parfitt http://movies.ign.com/email.html , IGN UK

http://movies.ign.com/articles/863/863792p1.html

UK, April 2, 2008 - Comic book legend Stan Lee has teamed up with Disney to
make three original movies based on new characters created by the writer,
according to The Hollywood Reporter today.

First up is Tigress, based around the feline villainess from Conan the
Barbarian and with a script written by newcomer Zoe Green. 

Details for the other two projects are even more scarce. The strangeley
monikered Nick Ratchet will apparently be directed by Richard LaGravenese
(P.S. I Love You) from his own screenplay, while the third project, Blaze,
is being penned by Gary Goldman (Next).


Actual plot details are being kept under wraps by the studio, however, much
to the chagrin of Lee, who told the trade mag: You have no idea how
frustrating that is for me, because I love these characters so much and want
to talk about them.

Lee is probably the world's most famous comic book writer, having co-created
Spider-Man, X-Men and The Fantastic Four. He believes that it's not
unlikely that his new movie characters will eventually generate comic
books.

 



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Re: [scifinoir2] Heroes Returns; Origins Dies

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
rest- H'Wood code for this stinks worse than three-day-old marinating 
shark...

Martin (trust me on this analogy, folks)

tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heroes 
Returns; Origins Dies
 
 Heroes will return to NBC on Sept. 15 with an expanded third-season
 opener, but network executives confirmed that the proposed prequel
 spinoff, Heroes: Origins, is officially dead.
 
 We consciously chose to rest [Heroes] this spring so that [creator]
 Tim Kring and his team could get ahead of the creative and build up to
 a massive event--a three-hour Heroes night, Ben Silverman,
 co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and Universal Media Studios, said
 during the network's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York
 on April 2. On Monday, Sept. 15, we'll kick off with a Heroes clip
 show to try to bring back the audience and [then air] a massive
 two-hour Heroes film.
 
 Silverman also explained why the heavily hyped, much-anticipated
 Heroes: Origins was scrapped. The show was originally conceived to
 help eliminate Heroes repeats, and directors and writers--including
 feature-film vets Kevin Smith, Eli Roth and Michael Dougherty--were
 already lined up before NBC dropped the idea.
 
 We were taxing our creative team to do too much around that,
 Silverman said. We wanted 35 Heroes [episodes] and 12 Heroes:
 Origins, each of which was supposed to be a mini-movie and backdoor
 pilot. We reached far and challenged our people, and we decided it was
 better to focus on keeping the Heroes mothership as strong as possible.
 
 Heroes will air Mondays at 9 p.m. ET/PT. (NBC is owned by NBC
 Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Ian Spelling 
 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=51591type=0
 
 
 
   


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[scifinoir2] New Batman TV Series This Fall

2008-04-05 Thread Tracey de Morsella

New Batman TV Series This Fall


The latest animated Batman gets bold with a little help from his friends. 


by Eric Goldman http://tv.ign.com/email.html  

April 4, 2008 - While his latest series, The Batman, ended mere weeks ago,
there will hardly be a lull in animated adventures of the Caped Crusader, as
the Cartoon Network announces their new series Batman: The Brave and the
Bold. The new show, whose title will be familiar to comic books fans, will
feature Batman teaming with several familiar DC Comics characters, including
Blue Beetle and Green Arrow. 

Some fans will no doubt be a bit concerned about the mention of comic
relief in the new series, and stylistically the images released from the
show seem to evoke the 1970s animated versions of Batman - including Super
Friends -- more than the still-popular 1990s Batman series or The Batman. It
certainly doesn't seem the series is influenced by Christopher Nolan's
current Batman films. We'll have to wait until the show debuts this fall
though to discover just what tone The Brave and the Bold takes. 

  _  

Batman isn't going at it alone this time! From Warner Bros. Animation comes
the latest interpretation of the classic Batman franchise. Our caped
crusader is teamed up with heroes from across the DC Universe, delivering
nonstop action and adventure with a touch of comic relief. Blue Beetle,
Green Arrow, Aquaman and countless others will get a chance to uphold
justice alongside Batman. Though still based in Gotham, Batman will
frequently find himself outside city limits, facing situations that are both
unfamiliar and exhilarating. With formidable foes around every corner,
Batman will still rely on his stealth, resourcefulness and limitless supply
of cool gadgets to bring justice home.

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Failure Informs Knight

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
Let's all hang onto this one, folks. This way, in July, when KR is history 
flaming, we can all look back and chuckle, okay?

tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bionic 
Failure Informs Knight
 
 Ben Silverman, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and Universal Media
 Studios, said that the network took the lessons it learned the hard
 way from its failed reboot Bionic Woman and applied them to the
 upcoming remake of Knight Rider.
 
 Bionic Woman started off well, then sputtered out creatively and in
 the ratings, and it was not renewed for a second season. NBC conceded
 that the rush to get the show on air ultimately hurt it.
 
 Moving forward with Knight Rider after the success of a backdoor pilot
 that aired in February, the network elected to take its time with the
 weekly version, a sequel to the original 1980s series that starred
 David Hasselhoff.
 
 We saw it with [Fox's] Terminator [The Sarah Connor Chronicles], and
 we saw it with Bionic Woman: big openings, big branded titles, draw
 open the tent, and the show didn't deliver on that $10 million pilot,
 Silverman said in response to a SCI FI Wire question during the
 network's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York on April 2.
 What we're doing with Knight Rider is we consciously delivered it on
 air [in February] so that we had nine months to make sure that series
 is great.
 
 To wit, Silverman said, NBC recently tapped Gary Scott Thompson as the
 Knight Rider show runner. Thompson most recently was show runner on
 NBC's hit series Las Vegas, and he also knows from cars--having
 scripted The Fast and the Furious--and from SF, having penned the
 story for Hollow Man.
 
 We just brought on [Thompson] to be our partner on it creatively,
 Silverman said. We're hiring a staff. We're hiring the cast. We're
 honing the writing crew. And we're ensuring that the show lives up to
 the audience's expectation. The audience turned on and tuned in to the
 two-hour movie premiere. Now we need to make sure they come in week in
 and week out, and for that we've got to take a rigorous
 approahttp://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=51674ch.;
 
 Knight Rider will premiere in the fall. (NBC is owned by NBC
 Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Ian Spelling 
 
 
 
   


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Re: [scifinoir2] New Batman TV Series This Fall

2008-04-05 Thread Justin Mohareb
Well, considering I'd actually watch episodes of The Batman when he
had 'very special guest stars', this is a good idea.

JJ Mohareb

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Tracey de Morsella
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  New Batman TV Series This Fall

  The latest animated Batman gets bold with a little help from his friends.

  by Eric Goldman http://tv.ign.com/email.html

  April 4, 2008 - While his latest series, The Batman, ended mere weeks ago,
  there will hardly be a lull in animated adventures of the Caped Crusader,
 as
  the Cartoon Network announces their new series Batman: The Brave and the
  Bold. The new show, whose title will be familiar to comic books fans, will
  feature Batman teaming with several familiar DC Comics characters,
 including
  Blue Beetle and Green Arrow.

-- 
Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy.
http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com


Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
Absolutely. Unlike a great many people, I know how to handle weapons, and I'm 
terrified of the things. Imagine hordes of Dirty- Harry-wannabes, all packing.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you! That's my point. And exactly how many times 
a day in this entire country do we have mass killings or hostage situations 
where everyday citizens will be needed to brandish their own weapons? I'm not 
against responsible gun ownership, but this is ridiculous.

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin  
Keith, our Jawja, our Jawja...

What I'm waiting for now is the person who decides to start robbing banks with 
a concealed weapon.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made 
here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go 
kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried 
in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or 
criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only 
having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being 
hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants 
to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just 
rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free 
piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some 
people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at 
school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that 
assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back
of a room and spray the crowd with an auto
matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, 
and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the 
good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting 
hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard 
and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude 
tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing!

And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me 
longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it 
would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill?

*

Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage
Opponent says legislators will regret move 

By ANDREA JONES
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 04/04/08 
Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places 
under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night.
An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits 
to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other 
public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a 
major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long 
as it's okay with the company.
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� More about this year's Legislature

Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has 
been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two 
years, called it a good piece of legislation.
We're gratified that the bill passed, he said.
But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the 
bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was 
watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease 
property the right to forbid guns in their lots.
Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly 
legislation.
It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I 
think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later.
Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting 
the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious 
position �- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that 
backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it.
When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to 
allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks 
and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version.
The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more 
then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns 
are also prohibited from drinking.
The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring 
probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Sleeper Cell Creators to be Eleventh Hour Showrunners

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
This wasn't recent, pal. A few years back, if memory serves. Here's a link...

http://imdb.com/title/tt0465353/

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always 
miss the good stuff...(damned Comcrap! Spit! Spit!)
 
 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  No, pal. It was an NBC series about 
an anti-terrorism unit. Lasted about as long as The Dresden Files, and just as 
good, IMO.
 
 Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sleeper Cell is a movie? Sounds like a 
video game...
 
 Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never saw Sleeper Cell. Is it 
any good? Will these guys help or hurt
 Eleventh Hour?
 
 Eleventh Taps Show Runners
 
 In an indication that CBS' SF pilot Eleventh Hour is headed to series,
 Sleeper Cell creators Cyrus Voris and Ethan Reiff have been tapped as
 executive producers/show runners for the Jerry Bruckheimer-produced drama,
 according to The Hollywood Reporter. 
 
 Hour is based on the British limited SF series and stars Rufus Sewell as a
 special science adviser to the government who, with his feisty female
 bodyguard Rachel (Marley Shelton) in tow, saves people from the worst abuses
 of science. 
 
 CSI visual mastermind Danny Cannon is directing the pilot from a script by
 feature writer Mick Davis. 
 
 On the potential series, Voris and Reiff will serve as executive producers
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[scifinoir2] Interactive movie-marketing stirs interest in 'Dark Knight'

2008-04-05 Thread ravenadal
www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0330_knightmar30,1,1229273.story
chicagotribune.com

MOVIES

Interactive movie-marketing stirs interest in 'Dark Knight'

By Chris Lee

Tribune Newspapers

March 30, 2008




LOS ANGELES — The billboards arrived without fanfare or explanation in
more than a dozen major cities last May. Bearing two simple catch
phrases, Harvey Dent for district attorney and I believe in Harvey
Dent, they featured a photo of a stately Dent (imagine Eliot Spitzer
with a shock of blond hair) against an American flag.

But within 72 hours, each billboard had been defaced by identical
graffiti: The candidate's eyes were scrawled over with black rings,
his lips crudely rouged with a smeary, clownlike grin. As well, each
of the placards' messages had been altered to read: I believe in
Harvey Dent TOO.

Although not outwardly advertising anything other than Dent's
political aspirations (never mind the impossibility of running for DA
in more than one city), the billboards were in fact the opening salvo
of one of the most interactive movie-marketing campaigns ever hatched
by Hollywood: a multiplatform, hidden-in-plain-sight promotional blitz
for the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight, which stars Christian
Bale and Heath Ledger and reaches theaters in July.

Alternate reality gaming
By employing a variety of untraditional awareness-building maneuvers
and starting the film's promo push strategically, more than a year
before the film's release, marketers at the firm 42 Entertainment
(subcontracted by the film's distributor, Warner Bros.) seem to have
struck a chord with The Dark Knight's core constituency: fanboys and
comic-book geeks. The promotional efforts — part viral marketing
initiative, part advertainment — fit into an absorbing, nascent
genre-bending pastime called alternate reality gaming that have been
the toast of movie and comic blogs for months.

The Dark Knight is hardly the only summer action flick to step up
its Internet game in anticipation of the tent-pole season: Trailers
for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull are spreading
across the Web like kudzu since being turned into widgets — small,
portable applications that can be posted on social networking sites
and blogs by marketers for its distributor, Paramount. Earlier this
month, HarperCollins Children's Books launched a read it before you
see it global digital campaign tying in the film The Chronicles of
Narnia: Prince Caspian with the C.S. Lewis children's classic from
which it was adapted.

And then there's good, old-fashioned movie salesmanship: The trailer
for Iron Man has been streamed 3.7 million times on Yahoo Movies
since it was launched in September.

A cultural event
So to stand out, The Dark Knight's alternate reality game (ARG for
short) is mashing up advertising, scavenger-hunting and role-playing
in a manner that variously recalls The X-Files and the play Tony n'
Tina's Wedding, The Matrix and the board game Clue — all in the
name of galvanizing a community of fans to bond (with the new Batman
and each other) over the course of a wild goose chase.

Or to be more precise, a wild Joker chase — one that so far has
involved clues spelled out in skywriting, secret meeting points, cell
phones embedded inside cakes, Internet red herrings, DIY fan contests
and even fake political rallies.

Befitting the campaign's covert-ops MO, neither Warner Bros. nor 42
Entertainment would comment for this story. But as Jonathan Waite,
founder of the Alternate Reality Gaming Network (argn.com) sees it,
The Dark Knight's multifaceted promo push transcends marketing to
exist as a stand-alone cultural event.

This is looked upon as viral marketing, but you have to look at it as
an engrossing experience — you have people getting very attached to
the game, Waite said. You're not a passive onlooker; you're taking
an active role. And any time you take an active role, you're
emotionally connecting. That's why people keep coming back: You make
personal connections with others, and a community gets built.

Take back Gotham City
As any Bat-fanatic will tell you, the Dent propaganda is meant to
conjure Batman's Dark Knight nemesis, Two Face (a role memorably
embodied by Tommy Lee Jones in 1995's Batman Forever; Two Face is
played by Aaron Eckhart in the new movie). Early in the Dark Knight
marketing campaign, an official Web site for the film redirected
viewers to ibelieveinharveydent.com — a URL notably lacking any
references to Batman that urges concerned Gotham citizens to take
back Gotham City by backing the candidate's run for district attorney.

More specifically, it tells them how to get involved in a faux
grass-roots political campaign through initiatives such as filming
videos, writing Take Back Gotham songs and coming out to meet the
Dentmobile, now touring several dozen American cities.

Another site, www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com provides a clue about
some connection between the Joker and Two Face that will 

Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Failure Informs Knight

2008-04-05 Thread KeithBJohnson
well, maybe they're taking their time, but the original product is still junk. 
You can put a dress on a pig, but it's still a pig. Don't think Knight Rider 
will be getting my support

-- Original message -- 
From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Bionic Failure Informs Knight

Ben Silverman, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment and Universal Media
Studios, said that the network took the lessons it learned the hard
way from its failed reboot Bionic Woman and applied them to the
upcoming remake of Knight Rider.

Bionic Woman started off well, then sputtered out creatively and in
the ratings, and it was not renewed for a second season. NBC conceded
that the rush to get the show on air ultimately hurt it.

Moving forward with Knight Rider after the success of a backdoor pilot
that aired in February, the network elected to take its time with the
weekly version, a sequel to the original 1980s series that starred
David Hasselhoff.

We saw it with [Fox's] Terminator [The Sarah Connor Chronicles], and
we saw it with Bionic Woman: big openings, big branded titles, draw
open the tent, and the show didn't deliver on that $10 million pilot,
Silverman said in response to a SCI FI Wire question during the
network's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York on April 2.
What we're doing with Knight Rider is we consciously delivered it on
air [in February] so that we had nine months to make sure that series
is great.

To wit, Silverman said, NBC recently tapped Gary Scott Thompson as the
Knight Rider show runner. Thompson most recently was show runner on
NBC's hit series Las Vegas, and he also knows from cars--having
scripted The Fast and the Furious--and from SF, having penned the
story for Hollow Man.

We just brought on [Thompson] to be our partner on it creatively,
Silverman said. We're hiring a staff. We're hiring the cast. We're
honing the writing crew. And we're ensuring that the show lives up to
the audience's expectation. The audience turned on and tuned in to the
two-hour movie premiere. Now we need to make sure they come in week in
and week out, and for that we've got to take a rigorous
approahttp://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=51674ch.;

Knight Rider will premiere in the fall. (NBC is owned by NBC
Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Ian Spelling 


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Series Creators Depart 'Smallville'

2008-04-05 Thread KeithBJohnson
I've said it before: Smallville has dragged on too long. Even the creators 
realize that fact. Clark is out of high school, and Welling is too old-looking 
to creditably be hanging out in podunck town. Clark's supposed to be travelling 
the world at this time, learning about humanity. That they've chosen not to 
follow that path has resulted in love triangles drawn out way past the point of 
interest, the slowest climb to evil (Lex) I've ever seen, and contrived and 
uninteresting plot devices to bring many of the major DCU heroes into Clark's 
world years before they should be (Green Arrow, Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg).  It 
reminds me of shows like Dallas or Dynasty that peaked but kept going

-- Original message -- 
From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
Source: TV Guide
Apr-03-2008

They developed the Superman mythology for television, but now
Smallville creators have gone up, up and away, leaving the series
far behind.

In a mildly shocking announcement, Al Gough and Miles Millar have
confirmed that they will depart Smallville after the conclusion of
the current seventh season, despite The CW picking the series up for
yet another year. No real reason for their exit has been announced,
however in their love letter to fans the dynamic duo have said only
that it is time for them to move on and also thanked the entire cast
and crew for their efforts over the years, as well as the viewers who
helped turn the series into such a success.

Over the last seven years we have had the honor of working with a
remarkable team of people here in Los Angeles and in Vancouver, the
two said in an open letter to the fans. We have been blessed with a
wonderful cast who we have watched mature with admiration and
affection. We have been rewarded with a fan base that is as loyal as
it is vocal.

Both Gough and Millar said they were proud of the work they did on
Smallville, and that they accomplished everything they set out to do
on the show without ever compromising their vision.

We leave knowing that 'Smallivlle' is the longest-running comic
book-based series of all time, they said. The show was featured on
the covers of Rolling Stone, Mad Magazine, TV Guide and Entertainment
Weekly. The pilot had the highest-rated premiere in the history of The
WB.

Gough and Millar haven't cleared out of their offices just yet, but
The CW has already been looking for replacements for the two, deciding
on elevating Darren Swimmer, Todd Slavkin, Kelly Souders and Brian
Peterson to leadership roles on the show.

Al Gough and Miles Millar have been great partners and instrumental
in the development and success of 'Smallville,' a CW representative
said. Swimmer and company have been writing for the show for the past
six seasons, and as producers for the last four years. They have
played an integral role in the ongoing creative evolution of the
series. As showrunners, they will continue to deliver the compelling
storyline that 'Smallville' fans have come to expect and love.

Gough and Miller aren't the only ones departing the series in the
eighth season as show stars Michael Rosenbaum and Kristen Kruek (who
play Lex Luthor and Lana Lang) have also confirmed that they will not
be back full time next year. Reports also suggest that at least one
other character will be permanently leaving the show.

Throughout its seven-year run, Smallville has not only tackled the
many facets of the Superman mythos, but also that of several other
popular comic book characters. Among their ranks are The
Flash/Impulse, Cyborg, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Black Canary and more
recently Supergirl. The series has developed a strong online following
and has featured various guest stars from other Superman projects
including Dean Caine, Margot Kidder and Christopher Reeve.

Smallville airs Thursdays at 9 p.m. ET on The CW.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Series Creators Depart 'Smallville'

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
A rarity in life- a wake that actually preceded the funeral...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've said it before: 
Smallville has dragged on too long. Even the creators realize that fact. 
Clark is out of high school, and Welling is too old-looking to creditably be 
hanging out in podunck town. Clark's supposed to be travelling the world at 
this time, learning about humanity. That they've chosen not to follow that path 
has resulted in love triangles drawn out way past the point of interest, the 
slowest climb to evil (Lex) I've ever seen, and contrived and uninteresting 
plot devices to bring many of the major DCU heroes into Clark's world years 
before they should be (Green Arrow, Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg).  It reminds me of 
shows like Dallas or Dynasty that peaked but kept going
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
 Source: TV Guide
 Apr-03-2008
 
 They developed the Superman mythology for television, but now
 Smallville creators have gone up, up and away, leaving the series
 far behind.
 
 In a mildly shocking announcement, Al Gough and Miles Millar have
 confirmed that they will depart Smallville after the conclusion of
 the current seventh season, despite The CW picking the series up for
 yet another year. No real reason for their exit has been announced,
 however in their love letter to fans the dynamic duo have said only
 that it is time for them to move on and also thanked the entire cast
 and crew for their efforts over the years, as well as the viewers who
 helped turn the series into such a success.
 
 Over the last seven years we have had the honor of working with a
 remarkable team of people here in Los Angeles and in Vancouver, the
 two said in an open letter to the fans. We have been blessed with a
 wonderful cast who we have watched mature with admiration and
 affection. We have been rewarded with a fan base that is as loyal as
 it is vocal.
 
 Both Gough and Millar said they were proud of the work they did on
 Smallville, and that they accomplished everything they set out to do
 on the show without ever compromising their vision.
 
 We leave knowing that 'Smallivlle' is the longest-running comic
 book-based series of all time, they said. The show was featured on
 the covers of Rolling Stone, Mad Magazine, TV Guide and Entertainment
 Weekly. The pilot had the highest-rated premiere in the history of The
 WB.
 
 Gough and Millar haven't cleared out of their offices just yet, but
 The CW has already been looking for replacements for the two, deciding
 on elevating Darren Swimmer, Todd Slavkin, Kelly Souders and Brian
 Peterson to leadership roles on the show.
 
 Al Gough and Miles Millar have been great partners and instrumental
 in the development and success of 'Smallville,' a CW representative
 said. Swimmer and company have been writing for the show for the past
 six seasons, and as producers for the last four years. They have
 played an integral role in the ongoing creative evolution of the
 series. As showrunners, they will continue to deliver the compelling
 storyline that 'Smallville' fans have come to expect and love.
 
 Gough and Miller aren't the only ones departing the series in the
 eighth season as show stars Michael Rosenbaum and Kristen Kruek (who
 play Lex Luthor and Lana Lang) have also confirmed that they will not
 be back full time next year. Reports also suggest that at least one
 other character will be permanently leaving the show.
 
 Throughout its seven-year run, Smallville has not only tackled the
 many facets of the Superman mythos, but also that of several other
 popular comic book characters. Among their ranks are The
 Flash/Impulse, Cyborg, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Black Canary and more
 recently Supergirl. The series has developed a strong online following
 and has featured various guest stars from other Superman projects
 including Dean Caine, Margot Kidder and Christopher Reeve.
 
 Smallville airs Thursdays at 9 p.m. ET on The CW.
 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424892.html
 
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Country
   
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Re: [scifinoir2] New Batman TV Series This Fall

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
I'm in, too.

Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, 
considering I'd actually watch episodes of The Batman when he
 had 'very special guest stars', this is a good idea.
 
 JJ Mohareb
 
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Tracey de Morsella
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   New Batman TV Series This Fall
 
   The latest animated Batman gets bold with a little help from his friends.
 
   by Eric Goldman http://tv.ign.com/email.html
 
   April 4, 2008 - While his latest series, The Batman, ended mere weeks ago,
   there will hardly be a lull in animated adventures of the Caped Crusader,
  as
   the Cartoon Network announces their new series Batman: The Brave and the
   Bold. The new show, whose title will be familiar to comic books fans, will
   feature Batman teaming with several familiar DC Comics characters,
  including
   Blue Beetle and Green Arrow.
 
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There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
   
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Re: [scifinoir2] 'Battlestar Galactica' Plan Subject To Change

2008-04-05 Thread Martin
Definitely good moments in it. I'm starting to wonder whether the strike is 
what hurt this show last season.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Battlestar was good last 
night. 
  
 There are some good writers on that show. 
 
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There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
   
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Access, No Cost.

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[scifinoir2] Re: Sleeper Cell Creators to be Eleventh Hour Showrunners

2008-04-05 Thread maidmarian_thepoet
Showtime, guys.  
http://www.sho.com/site/sleepercell/home.do





Re: Dr Who in Space RE: [scifinoir2] David joins forces with Catherine for more

2008-04-05 Thread maidmarian_thepoet
(belated) thanks for answering this.  I was tired to checking the
scifi web site.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marian, next Friday at 8:00, following The Sarah Jane Chronicles.