[scifinoir2] Top 10 Most Corrupt Mayors From Science Fiction
OK we are getting too serious in here people. I like it, but I thought Id reintroduce some scifi J http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=1 http://io9.com/5360293/top-10-most-corrupt-mayors-from-science-fiction/gall ery/?selectedImage=1 You think your city's leadership is bad? Just look at these 10 stand-out examples of terrible mayors and awful city leaders from science fiction and urban fantasy. They steal, they kill, they won't give the people air! Thanks to S.J. Edwards, Elizabeth Bear, DJ Chaotica, Larry-Bob Roberts, Zack Stentz, Daphne Gottlieb, Paul McEnery, James McGirk, Jessy Randall, Kevin Schmidt, Morgan Johnson, Susie Kay, Kat Page and David Fraser for the suggestions! 1.Bill Murray playing The Mayor In City Of Ember He's the textbook example of a corrupt mayor who's only interested in saving his own skin. He knows the underground city of Ember is on its way out, and soon it'll be uninhabitable due to power failures and dwindling supplies. But instead of trying to cope with the problem, the mayor tries to hoard as much stuff for himself as possible, in a secret room and puts together meaningless commissions to study the problem. Here he is in this video, eating sardines in the grossest possible manner. 2. Lando Calrissian in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Okay, so Lando is the kind of scoundrel we love to watch. And he's a perfect counterpart for Han Solo. But would you really want him in charge of your city? His Cloud City of Bespin seems like a pretty corrupt, messed-up place. And then he goes inviting Darth Vader and his crew there, which is not good city planning at all. And then after Vader has demolished half the city in his battle with Luke Skywalker, Lando takes off and leaves his city behind. Call that leadership? Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=3 http://io9.com/5360293/top-10-most-corrupt-mayors-from-science-fiction/gall ery/?selectedImage=3 3. Aunty Entity in Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome She does keep the city of Bartertown humming along except when she gets stuck into an idiotic power struggle with Master/Blaster, and everything grinds to a halt. Plus she rules with an iron fist, and forces people to fight to the death in a deadly arena. That's not the kind of leadership our post-apocalyptic cities need! Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=4 http://io9.com/5360293/top-10-most-corrupt-mayors-from-science-fiction/gall ery/?selectedImage=4 4. Mayor in RoboCop 2 He makes deals with drug dealers and criminals. And then he mismanages the city's finances and winds up handing the entire city over to the evil OCP. This clip pretty much says it all. And when he's in a tight corner, he just loses his shit. Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=5 http://io9.com/5360293/top-10-most-corrupt-mayors-from-science-fiction/gall ery/?selectedImage=5 5. Mayor Wilkins, in Buffy The Vampire Slayer, season 3 Your average terrible mayor may let the city fall apart, or make deals with drug lords, or bulldoze your house for no reason. But a really awful mayor, like Wilkins, makes cozy arrangements with vampires and tries to kill off the town's only protector. And then tries to turn into a demon so he can eat the high-school graduating class. Now that's bad leadership. Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=6 http://io9.com/5360293/top-10-most-corrupt-mayors-from-science-fiction/gall ery/?selectedImage=6 6. Vilos Cohaagen, in Total Recall. He's an evil administrator of the Mars settlement, keeping the mutants down and ruling with an iron grip. He uses mind-control and brainwashing to keep his minions in line. And worst of all, he won't give the people air. WTF, Cohaagen? Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=7 http://io9.com/5360293/top-10-most-corrupt-mayors-from-science-fiction/gall ery/?selectedImage=7 7. Mayor Bentham Rudgutter, in Perdido Street Station by China Miéville. He's always described as sitting regally on his throne, or sitting behind his desk with an air of utter command. He rules over New Crobuson, with its corruption and oppression and he's not averse to making deals with the city's crime syndicates as well as its demons. He systematically rounds up dissidents and has them tortured, and he's not above imposing martial law if the situation gets out of hand. Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=8 http://io9.com/5360293/top-10-most-corrupt-mayors-from-science-fiction/gall ery/?selectedImage=8 8. Father in Equilibrium Father rules over the city-state of Libria and outlaws all human emotion, even the love of a small puppy. To this end, he keeps the people doped up on a drug called Prozium, and keeps everyone under constant surveillance. (Similar to other figureheads like
RE: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Most Corrupt Mayors From Science Fiction
The minute I saw this thread title, I said to myself, If Rudgutter's not on it, it's invalid. If none of you have partaken of the book, I recommend it, for its sheer realism. After reading it the first time through, I felt compelled to bathe. (Once you read it, you'll understand.) And then I read it again. (Further proof of how good it is -- someone I once called a friend stole my copy last year.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:36:04 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Top 10 Most Corrupt Mayors From Science Fiction OK we are getting too serious in here people. I like it, but I thought I’d reintroduce some scifi J http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=1 You think your city's leadership is bad? Just look at these 10 stand-out examples of terrible mayors and awful city leaders from science fiction and urban fantasy. They steal, they kill, they won't give the people air! Thanks to S.J. Edwards, Elizabeth Bear, DJ Chaotica, Larry-Bob Roberts, Zack Stentz, Daphne Gottlieb, Paul McEnery, James McGirk, Jessy Randall, Kevin Schmidt, Morgan Johnson, Susie Kay, Kat Page and David Fraser for the suggestions! 1.Bill Murray playing The Mayor In City Of Ember He's the textbook example of a corrupt mayor who's only interested in saving his own skin. He knows the underground city of Ember is on its way out, and soon it'll be uninhabitable due to power failures and dwindling supplies. But instead of trying to cope with the problem, the mayor tries to hoard as much stuff for himself as possible, in a secret room — and puts together meaningless commissions to study the problem. Here he is in this video, eating sardines in the grossest possible manner. 2. Lando Calrissian in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Okay, so Lando is the kind of scoundrel we love to watch. And he's a perfect counterpart for Han Solo. But would you really want him in charge of your city? His Cloud City of Bespin seems like a pretty corrupt, messed-up place. And then he goes inviting Darth Vader and his crew there, which is not good city planning at all. And then after Vader has demolished half the city in his battle with Luke Skywalker, Lando takes off and leaves his city behind. Call that leadership? Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=3 3. Aunty Entity in Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome She does keep the city of Bartertown humming along — except when she gets stuck into an idiotic power struggle with Master/Blaster, and everything grinds to a halt. Plus she rules with an iron fist, and forces people to fight to the death in a deadly arena. That's not the kind of leadership our post-apocalyptic cities need! Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=4 4. Mayor in RoboCop 2 He makes deals with drug dealers and criminals. And then he mismanages the city's finances and winds up handing the entire city over to the evil OCP. This clip pretty much says it all. And when he's in a tight corner, he just loses his shit. Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=5 5. Mayor Wilkins, in Buffy The Vampire Slayer, season 3 Your average terrible mayor may let the city fall apart, or make deals with drug lords, or bulldoze your house for no reason. But a really awful mayor, like Wilkins, makes cozy arrangements with vampires and tries to kill off the town's only protector. And then tries to turn into a demon so he can eat the high-school graduating class. Now that's bad leadership. Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=6 6. Vilos Cohaagen, in Total Recall. He's an evil administrator of the Mars settlement, keeping the mutants down and ruling with an iron grip. He uses mind-control and brainwashing to keep his minions in line. And worst of all, he won't give the people air. WTF, Cohaagen? Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=7 7. Mayor Bentham Rudgutter, in Perdido Street Station by China Miéville. He's always described as sitting regally on his throne, or sitting behind his desk with an air of utter command. He rules over New Crobuson, with its corruption and oppression — and he's not averse to making deals with the city's crime syndicates as well as its demons. He systematically rounds up dissidents and has them tortured, and he's not above imposing martial law if the situation gets out of hand. Link directly to this page: http://io9.com/5360293//gallery/?selectedImage=8 8. Father in Equilibrium Father rules over the city-state of Libria and outlaws all human emotion, even the love of a small puppy. To this
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Bush Speechwriter Talks with GQ
May seem like blasphemy to say it, but I kinda concur. We have to remember that, three years ago, Obama was a *very* green U.S. Senator. Previously, Presidents have been in national/international politics for most of their adult lives, with a few exceptions. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:06:35 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bush Speechwriter Talks with GQ True that. But then, he also felt Obama had no clue, too. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:04:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Bush Speechwriter Talks with GQ Keith, this is just the latest in a long line of Bush acolytes who've seen the light after the fact, and want to toss out a weak mea culpa. Though Mister Bush's assessment of Ms Palin seems prescient. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:18:56 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Bush Speechwriter Talks with GQ http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_10957loc=interstitialskip There's a good long article dealing with the former speechwriter who's revealed a lot of Bush's utterances in the last couple of years in the White House. And for the record, though i was against everything Bush did and stood for, I find this guy's behavior reprehensible. A man--even one like Bush--should have the right to say crap in private and feel it'll remain private. It's obvious that Obama--like just about every man or woman leader you can name--can be very frank and even raw in private. And he should have the right to be so. Now, if they revealed that there were secret discussions in the White House, to, I don't know, make sure all the Blacks in flooded New Orleans suffered or something, that would be different. But even idiots and people I don't respect should be able to speak things in some quarters without fear their words will be repeated later. I have said my share of insensitive, crude, angry things about people, and I'd cringe to have some of those words released publicly. Hell, can't the guy even wait until Bush is dead and buried in the far future? Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. _ Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=digital+tv'sform=MSHNCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHNCB_Vertical_Shopping_DigitalTVs_1x1
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: For my part--and for the part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's got no sense. Or no home training - but that would be slight on his dear departed mother.
[scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the cycle of death. I'm sure some of them don't really get what it means to kill the goat, and will break down and freak out if confronted by his roasted carcass on a serving platter. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:17 + Subject: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth http://eishafu.notlong.com Are these Bey-Bey's kids? ~(no)rave! Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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[scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
I don't get the outrage. My grandfather raised livestock and my cousins and I fed them, cared for them, etc. during the summers. After the first steer we raised disappeared and came back in coolers wrapped in white butcher's paper we were shocked and mad...until we got our share of the hamburger and other meat. Farm kids learn early on that those animals are not going to be there forever and if they come back it will be as dinner. This doesn't encourage cruelty or anything of the sort in fact it usually has the opposite effect. The animals are well cared for because they are income and/or food. The incident described in the article is a pretty common practice in production agriculture courses, FFA and 4-H. My friend is teacher and does a similar program with his 7th graders. We both majored in animal science in college and part of the course work was humanely raising and processing food animals. More people need to understand where their food comes from and it isn't the store. ;) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Ha-ha! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:13:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth For several weeks, I've had my eye (and mouth) set on a chicken parmesan sammich from Zaxby's, and I finally got one today for lunch. I didn't name it. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:26:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:17 + Subject: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth http://eishafu.notlong.com Are these Bey-Bey's kids? ~(no)rave! Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.
[scifinoir2] Question (Again)
How come, when your wife's pregnant her female friends rub her stomach and say congratulations! But nobody rub your balls and say WELL DONE!
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
True, now, back to SciFi! Maybe Kanye will make a robot of himself that he sends on stage to speak for him. Kind of a rapping B4 (the ridiculous Data prototype from Nemesis that was rather simple compared to his brothers) - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:40:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: For my part--and for the part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's got no sense. Or no home training - but that would be slight on his dear departed mother.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
Are we sure the kids were all cavalier and uncaring? It said they voted--and the use of the word slaughter, here, at least, carries major implications--but doesn't really say what the process was like. Maybe they thought it was the right thing to do, regretably. Maybe they weighed the one life against the many it would save. Don't know... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the cycle of death. I'm sure some of them don't really get what it means to kill the goat, and will break down and freak out if confronted by his roasted carcass on a serving platter. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:17 + Subject: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth http://eishafu.notlong.com Are these Bey-Bey's kids? ~(no)rave! Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
To answer both you and Keith, Kelwyn, I don't know and I don't care. These kids formed enough of an emotional bond with the creature to name it, then decided that it was time for it to die. I don't like to contemplate anyone possessing such a mindset, let alone children. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:26:38 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Are we sure the kids were all cavalier and uncaring? It said they voted--and the use of the word slaughter, here, at least, carries major implications--but doesn't really say what the process was like. Maybe they thought it was the right thing to do, regretably. Maybe they weighed the one life against the many it would save. Don't know... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the cycle of death. I'm sure some of them don't really get what it means to kill the goat, and will break down and freak out if confronted by his roasted carcass on a serving platter. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:17 + Subject: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth http://eishafu.notlong.com Are these Bey-Bey's kids? ~(no)rave! Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Bringing diversity
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
Maybe that's what we're looking at now. He's had the android version of himself for some time now, in case anyone tries to kidnap or kill the real deal. He sent it out on his behalf that night, and it malfunctioned horribly... there's a story in that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:24:52 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment True, now, back to SciFi! Maybe Kanye will make a robot of himself that he sends on stage to speak for him. Kind of a rapping B4 (the ridiculous Data prototype from Nemesis that was rather simple compared to his brothers) - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:40:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: For my part--and for the part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's got no sense. Or no home training - but that would be slight on his dear departed mother. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
Maybe this is me. I feel nothing but outrage. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:49:32 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth I don't get the outrage. My grandfather raised livestock and my cousins and I fed them, cared for them, etc. during the summers. After the first steer we raised disappeared and came back in coolers wrapped in white butcher's paper we were shocked and mad...until we got our share of the hamburger and other meat. Farm kids learn early on that those animals are not going to be there forever and if they come back it will be as dinner. This doesn't encourage cruelty or anything of the sort in fact it usually has the opposite effect. The animals are well cared for because they are income and/or food. The incident described in the article is a pretty common practice in production agriculture courses, FFA and 4-H. My friend is teacher and does a similar program with his 7th graders. We both majored in animal science in college and part of the course work was humanely raising and processing food animals. More people need to understand where their food comes from and it isn't the store. ;) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Ha-ha! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:13:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth For several weeks, I've had my eye (and mouth) set on a chicken parmesan sammich from Zaxby's, and I finally got one today for lunch. I didn't name it. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:26:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:17 + Subject: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth http://eishafu.notlong.com Are these Bey-Bey's kids? ~(no)rave! Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Question (Again)
LMNAATWO!! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com CC: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:50:28 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Question (Again) How come, when your wife's pregnant her female friends rub her stomach and say congratulations! But nobody rub your balls and say WELL DONE! _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Why marrying a good speller is important
Yahu fails us all again, Fate. No attachment. Martin (going to finish removing Yahu from his computer today) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com CC: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:43:43 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Why marrying a good speller is important --- This made me laugh out loud!!! Enjoy! Fate.=== = = Just double click above where it says 911.wmv, make sure your sound is turned on _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
I had to look at the subject line and where the email was coming from and blink several times, as I could've sworn this came in from one of my numerous vegan lists. I'm actually surprised I haven't heard of this on them. It's the sort of thing that would be posted there. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: To answer both you and Keith, Kelwyn, I don't know and I don't care. These kids formed enough of an emotional bond with the creature to name it, then decided that it was time for it to die. I don't like to contemplate anyone possessing such a mindset, let alone children. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:26:38 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Are we sure the kids were all cavalier and uncaring? It said they voted--and the use of the word slaughter, here, at least, carries major implications--but doesn't really say what the process was like. Maybe they thought it was the right thing to do, regretably. Maybe they weighed the one life against the many it would save. Don't know... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the cycle of death. I'm sure some of them don't really get what it means to kill the goat, and will break down and freak out if confronted by his roasted carcass on a serving platter. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM,
[scifinoir2] Joe Wilson's Wife: I Couldn't Believe He Said It
What's funny is that she met this idiot at a teenage Republican camp. And they want to say Obama was trying to indoctrinate our kids??? And Tracey, i will take this back to scifi. There's that movie Surrogates coming out soon, starring Bruce Willis. It's about a future in which people stay at home and send out artificially grown (created?) surrogate bodies to live their lives. The people at home are plugged into the bodies via a sophisticated neural networking system, and feel, see, hear, taste everything the bodies do--in short, they're in the bodies. Maybe in the future Congress will be a bunch of androids sitting permanently in Chambers, mouthing off and insulting the Robotic Prez with abandon. Maybe, while the real leaders sit at home, jacked into their VR rigs, the surrogate congressmen will start actual fights in Chambers: kinda like the South Koreans or Italian Parlimentarians do, but more intense. I can see an android Joe Wilson say Brrzt! You lie! Brrrzzzt!, then watch as Obamabot turns his laser scanner to fix on the audio source, then decapitates RoboJoe with a laser fired from his finger, only to be annoyed as the loudmouth simply pops up a new replacement head. Maybe Congress will become a place of death matches where the People control the Congrobots from home, a live version of Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots, and the winners get to make legislation. Can't you see bill after bill being held up, only to be vaporized by weapons fire from the opposing side? * http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5312818.shtml Joe Wilson's Wife: I Couldn't Believe He Said It Posted by Brian Montopoli Roxanne Wilson, wife of South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson, says in a new video posted to YouTube that she couldn't believe her husband was the nut who shouted You Lie! during President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress last week. In the video, which was produced by Wilson's campaign, Roxanne Wilson explains her husband's actions by saying he is very passionate. I couldn't believe that Joe would say that, she says, after explaining how her husband informed her he was the responsible party. She goes on to note that people were passionate and upset in town hall meetings over the summer and that she thinks that was the source of the outburst. Joe apologized, and I'm real proud of him, and I'm very appreciative that the president accepted the apology, she says. …My husband doesn't deserve the treatment he's getting from Congress. House Democrats are today bringing to the floor a resolution of disapproval rebuking Wilson for breaking House rules with his outburst. The rest of the campaign video, it should be noted, is more of a traditional testimonial. In it, gentle music plays and Roxanne Wilson says that she has had a longtime crush on her husband, who she met at teenage Republican camp. He'll do fine, she concludes. He's a great guy. And I love him a lot.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
ha! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:43:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Maybe that's what we're looking at now. He's had the android version of himself for some time now, in case anyone tries to kidnap or kill the real deal. He sent it out on his behalf that night, and it malfunctioned horribly... there's a story in that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:24:52 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment True, now, back to SciFi! Maybe Kanye will make a robot of himself that he sends on stage to speak for him. Kind of a rapping B4 (the ridiculous Data prototype from Nemesis that was rather simple compared to his brothers) - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:40:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: For my part--and for the part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's got no sense. Or no home training - but that would be slight on his dear departed mother. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
[scifinoir2] Fwd: Why marrying a good speller is important
trying this again. --- : Subject: Fwd: Why marrying a good speller is important [1 Attachment] To: Sammie Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:43 PM -- Forwarded message -- From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM Subject: Why marrying a good speller is important [1 Attachment] --- [Attachment(s)] This made me laugh out loud!!! Enjoy! = = ._,_.___ Attachment(s) 1 of 1 File(s) 911.wmv Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages |Files |Photos |Database |Members |Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .
[scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Tiny 'T. rex' found
ahar...@earthlink.net Interesting science stuff. Subject: World Science: Tiny 'T. rex' found * Tiny T. rex found: An ancestor of the giant predator resembles a miniature replica of it, at 1/90 the weight, scientists say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090918_raptorex * Showerheads may spray germs at you: Your morning scrubdown may give you more than you bargained for. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090914_shower * Negative public opinion seen as warning signal for terrorism: Terrorism is more likely when one country's people dislike the leaders and policies of another, a study has found. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090917_terrorism * Brain activity found to predict schizophrenia: A small area in our heads is linked to the earliest stages of a serious mental illness, researchers say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090911_schizophrenia * Fungus-treated violin beats Strad in blind test: A newly developed type of violin won in a blind contest against one made by the most famed violin maker of history. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090915_violin * Graffiti shield could offer hope for paint- threatened landmarks: Graffiti mars many historic monuments, and can be hard to erase without damaging the underlying surface. But help may be coming. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090910_graffiti * Memories may persist even when forgotten: Scientists have found that a person's brain activity while remembering an event is similar to when it was first experienced, even if specifics can't be recalled. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090909_memories World Science homepage Don't forget to visit our homepage for Science In Images; links to top science news from other publi- cations; and other recent World Science stories! http://www.world-science.net World Science archives To new readers especially: you need not miss our ex- citing past stories, though they won't appear in future newsletters. See archives for any year by typing that year after the homepage address: for example, http://www.world-science.net/2007 Invite friends to join World Science! Click here to open an invitation email you can send friends and colleagues so they can join you in sub- scribing to World Science at no charge. Feel free to change the email text (although you might want to leave the subscription instructions unchanged.) More information This is the World Science newsletter. To cancel your subscription, please reply to this email address with cancel in the subject line. To subscribe, write to this email address with subscribe in the subject line. To change the address where you receive the newsletter, simply subscribe the new address and cancel the old one. Any World Science article may be reproduced on another website, on condition that it is reproduced along with a link to the World Science homepage, http://www.world-science.net. Linking to the page of the original article is optional. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.103/2378 - Release Date: 09/17/09 06:18:00
RE: [scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Tiny 'T. rex' found
It's so cuute! Aw, and look! It just gnawed two of my fingers off! Thanks, Amy. You get a writing credit for this, because that was the first line of a story yet to be written. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ahar...@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:37:51 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Tiny 'T. rex' found ahar...@earthlink.net Interesting science stuff. Subject: World Science: Tiny 'T. rex' found * Tiny T. rex found: An ancestor of the giant predator resembles a miniature replica of it, at 1/90 the weight, scientists say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090918_raptorex * Showerheads may spray germs at you: Your morning scrubdown may give you more than you bargained for. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090914_shower * Negative public opinion seen as warning signal for terrorism: Terrorism is more likely when one country's people dislike the leaders and policies of another, a study has found. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090917_terrorism * Brain activity found to predict schizophrenia: A small area in our heads is linked to the earliest stages of a serious mental illness, researchers say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090911_schizophrenia * Fungus-treated violin beats Strad in blind test: A newly developed type of violin won in a blind contest against one made by the most famed violin maker of history. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090915_violin * Graffiti shield could offer hope for paint- threatened landmarks: Graffiti mars many historic monuments, and can be hard to erase without damaging the underlying surface. But help may be coming. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090910_graffiti * Memories may persist even when forgotten: Scientists have found that a person's brain activity while remembering an event is similar to when it was first experienced, even if specifics can't be recalled. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090909_memories World Science homepage Don't forget to visit our homepage for Science In Images; links to top science news from other publi- cations; and other recent World Science stories! http://www.world-science.net World Science archives To new readers especially: you need not miss our ex- citing past stories, though they won't appear in future newsletters. See archives for any year by typing that year after the homepage address: for example, http://www.world-science.net/2007 Invite friends to join World Science! Click here to open an invitation email you can send friends and colleagues so they can join you in sub- scribing to World Science at no charge. Feel free to change the email text (although you might want to leave the subscription instructions unchanged.) More information This is the World Science newsletter. To cancel your subscription, please reply to this email address with cancel in the subject line. To subscribe, write to this email address with subscribe in the subject line. To change the address where you receive the newsletter, simply subscribe the new address and cancel the old one. Any World Science article may be reproduced on another website, on condition that it is reproduced along with a link to the World Science homepage, http://www.world-science.net. Linking to the page of the original article is optional. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.103/2378 - Release Date: 09/17/09 06:18:00 _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Why marrying a good speller is important
Okay... I'm done for the day. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com CC: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:48:48 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Why marrying a good speller is important trying this again. --- : Subject: Fwd: Why marrying a good speller is important [1 Attachment] To: Sammie Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:43 PM -- Forwarded message -- From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM Subject: Why marrying a good speller is important [1 Attachment] --- [Attachment(s)] This made me laugh out loud!!! Enjoy! = = ._,_.___ Attachment(s) 1 of 1 File(s) 911.wmv Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages |Files |Photos |Database |Members |Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Joe Wilson's Wife: I Couldn't Believe He Said It
Keith, I sort of attended one of those, back when I was young and stupid enough to count myself among the number. They were careful with their words around me. I later learned that I was fine as a figurehead in the Yougn Reps, but not so much welcome in personal settings. Wonder if Michael Steele has noticed that yet... As for the Robo-Congress proposal, less Rock-'Em-Sock-'Em and more Celebrity Deathmatch. Might make them smart enough to measure their words and thoughts before they stand up and scream You lie! (Oh, BTB -- on Countdown last night, Olbermann had a story about Our Least Favorite Shouter. Remember when he proclaimed that he had once been an immigration attorney? Well, no one in SC, from other immigration attorneys to the SC state bar, has any record of anyone named Joe Wilson ever trying an immigration case. Just to be sure, they checked under his given name of Addison. Same result. He is a lawyer. Real-estate lawyer. Supposedly a good one, though...) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:09:54 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Joe Wilson's Wife: I Couldn't Believe He Said It What's funny is that she met this idiot at a teenage Republican camp. And they want to say Obama was trying to indoctrinate our kids??? And Tracey, i will take this back to scifi. There's that movie Surrogates coming out soon, starring Bruce Willis. It's about a future in which people stay at home and send out artificially grown (created?) surrogate bodies to live their lives. The people at home are plugged into the bodies via a sophisticated neural networking system, and feel, see, hear, taste everything the bodies do--in short, they're in the bodies. Maybe in the future Congress will be a bunch of androids sitting permanently in Chambers, mouthing off and insulting the Robotic Prez with abandon. Maybe, while the real leaders sit at home, jacked into their VR rigs, the surrogate congressmen will start actual fights in Chambers: kinda like the South Koreans or Italian Parlimentarians do, but more intense. I can see an android Joe Wilson say Brrzt! You lie! Brrrzzzt!, then watch as Obamabot turns his laser scanner to fix on the audio source, then decapitates RoboJoe with a laser fired from his finger, only to be annoyed as the loudmouth simply pops up a new replacement head. Maybe Congress will become a place of death matches where the People control the Congrobots from home, a live version of Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots, and the winners get to make legislation. Can't you see bill after bill being held up, only to be vaporized by weapons fire from the opposing side? * http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5312818.shtml Joe Wilson's Wife: I Couldn't Believe He Said It Posted by Brian Montopoli Roxanne Wilson, wife of South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson, says in a new video posted to YouTube that she couldn't believe her husband was the nut who shouted You Lie! during President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress last week. In the video, which was produced by Wilson's campaign, Roxanne Wilson explains her husband's actions by saying he is very passionate. I couldn't believe that Joe would say that, she says, after explaining how her husband informed her he was the responsible party. She goes on to note that people were passionate and upset in town hall meetings over the summer and that she thinks that was the source of the outburst. Joe apologized, and I'm real proud of him, and I'm very appreciative that the president accepted the apology, she says. …My husband doesn't deserve the treatment he's getting from Congress. House Democrats are today bringing to the floor a resolution of disapproval rebuking Wilson for breaking House rules with his outburst. The rest of the campaign video, it should be noted, is more of a traditional testimonial. In it, gentle music plays and Roxanne Wilson says that she has had a longtime crush on her husband, who she met at teenage Republican camp. He'll do fine, she concludes. He's a great guy. And I love him a lot. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
Same here, Adrianne, now that you mention it. I have a friend who is a vegan. I'll send her this, to see if such has happened. (She's the mysterious sort, lots of secret contacts.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:00:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth I had to look at the subject line and where the email was coming from and blink several times, as I could've sworn this came in from one of my numerous vegan lists. I'm actually surprised I haven't heard of this on them. It's the sort of thing that would be posted there. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: To answer both you and Keith, Kelwyn, I don't know and I don't care. These kids formed enough of an emotional bond with the creature to name it, then decided that it was time for it to die. I don't like to contemplate anyone possessing such a mindset, let alone children. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:26:38 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Are we sure the kids were all cavalier and uncaring? It said they voted--and the use of the word slaughter, here, at least, carries major implications--but doesn't really say what the process was like. Maybe they thought it was the right thing to do, regretably. Maybe they weighed the one life against the many it would save. Don't know... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the
RE: [scifinoir2] The First Clown In Space
Brent... *please* tell me that they sent him up with half the needed oxygen. Martin (*clowns)... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:50:37 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] The First Clown In Space http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iwmrYnO6-eP0vDWK_bxRTJYDhGPAD9AP4Q684 Canadian to lighten the mood aboard space station STAR CITY, Russia - The man who plans on being the first clown in space said Thursday he's got some surprises planned for the crew of the international space station. Cirque du Soleil founder Guy Laliberte told reporters he plans to tickle the professional astronauts while they're sleeping, and he's also bringing red clown noses to try to lighten things up on the orbiting station. I'm a person with a pretty high spirit, who's there to crack jokes and make jokes to those guys, and while they're sleeping, you know, I'll be tickling them, Laliberte said. The 50-year-old Canadian creator of the famed circus troupe is paying $35 million to blast off later this month on a Russian spacecraft, accompanying cosmonaut Maxim Surayev and astronaut Jeffrey Williams on the two-day journey to the station. The three spoke to reporters ahead of their flight to the Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, where Soyuz is scheduled to blast off from on Sept. 30. Laliberte hopes his 12-day stay aboard the station will help raise awareness of drinking water problems around the world when he hosts the first multimedia event from the station on Oct. 9 to highlight that crisis. On a lighter note, he pulled out a handful of red clown noses from his pocket that he plans to give to the station crew. This is the symbol of my mission, but it will also remind me that I should never forget I was once a kid, said Laliberte, a former tightrope walker and fire-eater who's been dubbed the first clown in space. The Quebec-born businessman is expected to be the last private paying tourist to visit the station for some time as NASA mothballs its space shuttle fleet and the U.S. space agency relies on Soyuz craft to get back and forth to the space station. At this moment the butterflies start to rise in my stomach, he said. Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
A *very* good point... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:46:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth I suspect that it was the writer's point of view that seeped into the article. They are making it into something that it wasn't. First off, who would give this info to the press? The school? Or an outraged parent? It was a vote of 13 to 1. There are a lot of assumptions being made in the story that is somewhat leading the readers. It is starting to sound a bit like PETA to me. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Are we sure the kids were all cavalier and uncaring? It said they voted--and the use of the word slaughter, here, at least, carries major implications--but doesn't really say what the process was like. Maybe they thought it was the right thing to do, regretably. Maybe they weighed the one life against the many it would save. Don't know... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the cycle of death. I'm sure some of them don't really get what it means to kill the goat, and will break down and freak out if confronted by his roasted carcass on a serving platter. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:17 + Subject: [scifinoir2] English school
[scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight
Pretty good series, no? I hate to say I missed the last half of its first season, so now i have to scramble to catch up! http://www.fox.com/fringe/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
Agreed. That word slaughter keeps troubling me. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:46:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth I suspect that it was the writer's point of view that seeped into the article. They are making it into something that it wasn't. First off, who would give this info to the press? The school? Or an outraged parent? It was a vote of 13 to 1. There are a lot of assumptions being made in the story that is somewhat leading the readers. It is starting to sound a bit like PETA to me. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Are we sure the kids were all cavalier and uncaring? It said they voted--and the use of the word slaughter, here, at least, carries major implications--but doesn't really say what the process was like. Maybe they thought it was the right thing to do, regretably. Maybe they weighed the one life against the many it would save. Don't know... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the cycle of death. I'm sure some of them don't really get what it means to kill the goat, and will break down and freak out if confronted by his roasted carcass on a serving platter. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:33:17 + Subject: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth http://eishafu.notlong.com Are these Bey-Bey's kids?
Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight
I love Fringe. It brought back some ideas that have been long forgotten in scifi. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Pretty good series, no? I hate to say I missed the last half of its first season, so now i have to scramble to catch up! http://www.fox.com/fringe/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight
Not sure, but I believe most of season 1 is on Hulu. Gerald Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:05:31 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight Pretty good series, no? I hate to say I missed the last half of its first season, so now i have to scramble to catch up! http://www.fox.com/fringe/
Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight
Yes and my DVR is set. checked it and made sure that it was still set 2 record the series. love it. --- On Thu, 9/17/09, efhay...@yahoo.com efhay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: efhay...@yahoo.com efhay...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight To: SciFiNoir2 mailing list scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:34 PM Not sure, but I believe most of season 1 is on Hulu. Gerald Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Keith Johnson Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:05:31 + (UTC) To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight Pretty good series, no? I hate to say I missed the last half of its first season, so now i have to scramble to catch up! http://www.fox. com/fringe/
Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight
I like Arthur the most. His fluid movementsy in an out of lucidity are hilarious. Gerald Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:43:44 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight Yes and my DVR is set. checked it and made sure that it was still set 2 record the series. love it. --- On Thu, 9/17/09, efhay...@yahoo.com efhay...@yahoo.com wrote: From: efhay...@yahoo.com efhay...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight To: SciFiNoir2 mailing list scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:34 PM Not sure, but I believe most of season 1 is on Hulu. Gerald Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Keith Johnson Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:05:31 + (UTC) To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight Pretty good series, no? I hate to say I missed the last half of its first season, so now i have to scramble to catch up! http://www.fox. com/fringe/
[scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth
I thought hard and long about the word slaughter because I wanted the subject of my post to read English school children vote to kill pet lamb. But that is not what they did. They voted to send their pet lamb to a slaughter house. Slaughter is the right word. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Agreed. That word slaughter keeps troubling me. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:46:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth I suspect that it was the writer's point of view that seeped into the article. They are making it into something that it wasn't. First off, who would give this info to the press? The school? Or an outraged parent? It was a vote of 13 to 1. There are a lot of assumptions being made in the story that is somewhat leading the readers. It is starting to sound a bit like PETA to me. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Are we sure the kids were all cavalier and uncaring? It said they voted--and the use of the word slaughter, here, at least, carries major implications--but doesn't really say what the process was like. Maybe they thought it was the right thing to do, regretably. Maybe they weighed the one life against the many it would save. Don't know... - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:48:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth My stock response to the Michael Vick witch hunt: They're dogs. That said, what is fascinating about this incident is that it is so counter to what I expected - i.e., that sweet little school children would be teary-eyed at the notion of sending their beloved pet lamb to the slaughterhouse - sort of like Charlotte's Web's Fern Arable, who was raised on a farm but still didn't want anybody to eat her pig. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Jeez, what's the big deal? It's an animal. Millions upon millions of animals are raised every year to be killed for food. Is *every* single one of the protesters a pure vegan? Do none of them wear leather or use any products tested on animals? Any of them eat Jell-O? Or spam? I love animals. Love 'em. Remember the names and deaths of every single dog and cat my family ever owned. I abhor needless violence and cruelty to animals. But if the kiddies want to have the lamb killed for a greater good, it's not indicative that they're a bunch of Jeffrey Dahmer's in the making. If this experiment had taken place on a straight out farm, we'd not even be having this discussion. This is interesting timing. In the last two weeks I listened to probably half a dozen various programs (on NPR, KERA's Think) about how humans--mostly Americans--treat animals. The programs dealt with how Americans now give their dogs anti-depressants because the animals get down being left alone during the day, how people spend thousands of dollars to save animals from disease or old age, how many now literally think of their cats and dogs as one of the family, even calling them their children. I think Americans have too much time and money on our hands. Again, i love animals to death. But they're not humans, and I'll be danged if I ever call a dog Spot Johnson or something. Most of the rest of the world sees animals as the beasts of burden, food, and clothing they've always been. Strange world when people freak out over Michael Vick, when there are kids here in Atlanta who could benefit from the outrage and time spent making him into a pariah. I say serve up the goat with onions and gravy. Besides, this is a part of life: kids need to understand some of the cycle of death. I'm sure some of them don't really get what it means to kill the goat, and will break down and freak out if confronted by his roasted carcass on a serving platter. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] English school children vote to slaughter pet lamb raised from birth Depends on their backgrounds I think. They could be Muslim kids that eat goat. (or somewhere else) So they aren't looking at it as being cute. They are looking at it being lunch. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Nope. Those are the Children of the Corn 2009.
[scifinoir2] Re: Fringe Returns Tonight
Didn't watch last season. Have DVR set to tape this season. Big fan of Lance Reddick (and anybody else who essayed on The Wire). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Pretty good series, no? I hate to say I missed the last half of its first season, so now i have to scramble to catch up! http://www.fox.com/fringe/
Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight
Don't forget his very liberal drug use and interpretation of law. :) He's an old school rebel that moved into the neighborhood that exists outside of the box. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:48 PM, efhay...@yahoo.com wrote: I like Arthur the most. His fluid movementsy in an out of lucidity are hilarious. Gerald Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From*: Augustus Augustus *Date*: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:43:44 -0700 (PDT) *To*: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight Yes and my DVR is set. checked it and made sure that it was still set 2 record the series. love it. --- On *Thu, 9/17/09, efhay...@yahoo.com efhay...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: efhay...@yahoo.com efhay...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight To: SciFiNoir2 mailing list scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:34 PM Not sure, but I believe most of season 1 is on Hulu. Gerald Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From*: Keith Johnson *Date*: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:05:31 + (UTC) *To*: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com *Subject*: [scifinoir2] Fringe Returns Tonight Pretty good series, no? I hate to say I missed the last half of its first season, so now i have to scramble to catch up! http://www.fox. com/fringe/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: True Blood Finale - WTF Did I Just Watch? - Major Spoilers
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Speaking of wacky this town needs a strong man to save it and WE are that man! Cracked me up. The episode was hilarious! Intentionally and unintentionally. Chocked full of great throw away lines. One of my favorites was Jason Stupid- is-as-stupid-does Stackhouse's I love the smell of nail polish in the morning! And I love the Yahtzee! bizness (I heard the Dali Lama loved to watch game shows and soap operas), especially when the Queen tells Eric, disdainfully, You suck at this! In the spirit of the original post, my CON is the same as it is everyday...WHY they always got to kill the black guy? ~(no)rave!
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood Finale - WTF Did I Just Watch? - Major Spoilers
Rave, totally agree about the killing of the Brother. now i have 2 wonder if i am really going 2 watch the 3rd season now. u kill the one brother who was straight, and the other one is gay. i guess they want 2 make it that no brothers are threats in Bom Temps. now i am waiting 2 see a STRONG OLD VAMPIRE! Fate. --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood Finale - WTF Did I Just Watch? - Major Spoilers To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:48 PM --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Speaking of wacky this town needs a strong man to save it and WE are that man! Cracked me up. The episode was hilarious! Intentionally and unintentionally. Chocked full of great throw away lines. One of my favorites was Jason Stupid- is-as-stupid- does Stackhouse's I love the smell of nail polish in the morning! And I love the Yahtzee! bizness (I heard the Dali Lama loved to watch game shows and soap operas), especially when the Queen tells Eric, disdainfully, You suck at this! In the spirit of the original post, my CON is the same as it is everyday... WHY they always got to kill the black guy? ~(no)rave!
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood Finale - WTF Did I Just Watch? - Major Spoilers
no Tracey, they do NOT! not even in Bon Temps --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood Finale - WTF Did I Just Watch? - Major Spoilers To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 8:06 PM They did not kiil the gay guy, he was captured and tortured for selling vamp blood. However, I agree with both of you and go back to my original question… Pet peeve, do distraught BLACK men planning to turn themselves in to the cops in a small town in Louisiana really do so, waving the large blood covered knife in the cops face making jabbing motions at him? From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Augustus Augustus Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:54 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood Finale - WTF Did I Just Watch? - Major Spoilers Rave, totally agree about the killing of the Brother. now i have 2 wonder if i am really going 2 watch the 3rd season now. u kill the one brother who was straight, and the other one is gay. i guess they want 2 make it that no brothers are threats in Bom Temps. now i am waiting 2 see a STRONG OLD VAMPIRE! Fate. --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com wrote: From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: True Blood Finale - WTF Did I Just Watch? - Major Spoilers To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:48 PM --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote: Speaking of wacky this town needs a strong man to save it and WE are that man! Cracked me up. The episode was hilarious! Intentionally and unintentionally. Chocked full of great throw away lines. One of my favorites was Jason Stupid- is-as-stupid- does Stackhouse's I love the smell of nail polish in the morning! And I love the Yahtzee! bizness (I heard the Dali Lama loved to watch game shows and soap operas), especially when the Queen tells Eric, disdainfully, You suck at this! In the spirit of the original post, my CON is the same as it is everyday... WHY they always got to kill the black guy? ~(no)rave!
[scifinoir2] WTF moment - The DC Tea party march 9/12
Want a taste of real America? Take a look at the interviews in this clip. My favorite is around the 7 minute mark. After you watch this ask yourself the following questions: 1. Are all of them that ignorant? 2. Why do we let these people have guns? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y That's my political moment for the week.
RE: [scifinoir2] WTF moment - The DC Tea party march 9/12
1) Yes 2) the gun-license office is filled with very stupid people. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:46:32 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] WTF moment - The DC Tea party march 9/12 Want a taste of real America? Take a look at the interviews in this clip. My favorite is around the 7 minute mark. After you watch this ask yourself the following questions: 1. Are all of them that ignorant? 2. Why do we let these people have guns? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y That's my political moment for the week. _ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1
RE: [scifinoir2] WTF moment - The DC Tea party march 9/12
love the reporter giving them actual facts: like reagan (their god) appointed czars.although the first czar was appointed by nixon. the nut who did not know what the 3 isims were was funny too! put a mic 2 their mouth and they just run off at the mouth, but then ask them what it means or give them some actual facts and all of a sudden they are the 3 stoogies. so kool. --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] WTF moment - The DC Tea party march 9/12 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 9:59 PM 1) Yes 2) the gun-license office is filled with very stupid people. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:46:32 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] WTF moment - The DC Tea party march 9/12 Want a taste of real America? Take a look at the interviews in this clip. My favorite is around the 7 minute mark. After you watch this ask yourself the following questions: 1. Are all of them that ignorant? 2. Why do we let these people have guns? http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=lUPMjC9mq5Y That's my political moment for the week. Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. Try it now!
[scifinoir2] TrueBlood S1_E1 Pilot.avi [1 Attachment]
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