Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Keith Johnson]

amen! 
- Original Message - 
From: "Bosco Bosco"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:23:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 






It's funny that they weren't worried about the constitution when habeas corpus 
was suspended. The fundamental right that is the basis of democracy and freedom 
was destroyed and they couldn't be bothered to utter a sound. 

Teabaggers are proof that democracy is doomed. Democracy depends on an educated 
and self interested population. Teabaggers are merely the most vocal of a 
deeply stupid majority that are hell bent to destroy everything any intelligent 
person holds sacred through willful destructive ignorance. 

I am officially sanctioning intellectual facism. 

Bosco 

--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Keith Johnson  wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson  
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:11 AM 






Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the Constitution" . 
I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the Constitution. Even 
some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued started under 
Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses, wiretaps, etc., 
which come way closer to violate the Constitution than anything Obama's 
initiated. 
There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward Obama 
at the root of much of this. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 






You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here since 
Cinco de Mayo. 

Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!" 
Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?" 
Old woman - blank stare... 
Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking away??" 




On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net > 
wrote: 






See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama wants 
to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping statement. 
It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say "A pure dee 
lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that are pure lies? 
Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if he did want to 
restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of doing--it's not the same 
thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for Christ's sake--something 
I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the most pro-abortion President 
ever. Again, how is such lying permitted? 
But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
believe that's his goal". 

 * * * * *** 
http://news. yahoo.com/ s/ap/20100515/ ap_on_el_ ge/us_palin 

Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 



CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday that 
President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a separate 
gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this November, 
sweeping away the Democratic agenda. 

Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle 
Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping 
Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political backlash. 

"Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with it, 
they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment," said 
Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun range in 
Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to stop them in 
their tracks." 

Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a 
Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has largely 
been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or strengthening 
background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law allowing people to 
carry loaded guns in national parks. 

Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party 
activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that the 
movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I don't 
really have a problem with the red

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Keith Johnson]

ea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama wants 
to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping statement. 
It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say "A pure dee 
lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that are pure lies? 
Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if he did want to 
restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of doing--it's not the same 
thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for Christ's sake--something 
I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the most pro-abortion President 
ever. Again, how is such lying permitted? 
But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
believe that's his goal". 

*** 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin 

Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 



CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday that 
President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a separate 
gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this November, 
sweeping away the Democratic agenda. 


Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle 
Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping 
Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political backlash. 

"Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with it, 
they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment," said 
Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun range in 
Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to stop them in 
their tracks." 

Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a 
Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has largely 
been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or strengthening 
background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law allowing people to 
carry loaded guns in national parks. 

Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party 
activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that the 
movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I don't 
really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you the truth." 

She proceeded to read several redneck jokes off her phone and talked about how 
she could relate to some of them. 

During an event earlier Friday in Washington sponsored by an anti-abortion 
group, she challenged Republican women to help the GOP "take this country back" 
and elect anti-abortion lawmakers. She praised female leaders of the tea party 
movement and invoked the 2008 acceptance speech where she compared herself to a 
pit bull. 

"You don't want to mess with moms who are rising up," Palin said at the Susan 
B. Anthony List event. "If you thought pit bulls were tough, you don't want to 
mess with mama grizzlies." 

Palin said she understood how some women might consider abortion, citing her 
own experiences as the mother of a child with Down syndrome and the parent of 
an unwed teen mother. Last year, Palin said that "for a fleeting moment" she 
considered having an abortion when she learned of her son Trig's prognosis. 

But she said Friday that abortion is morally wrong and women should carry a 
fetus to term. 

"It may not be the easiest path, but it's always the right path," she said. 

She said Obama is "the most pro-abortion president ever to occupy the White 
House" and asserted that the health care law would fund abortions. 

In fact, Obama's health care law would not allow federal dollars to pay for 
elective abortions. Catholic hospitals and organizations of Catholic nuns 
backed the measure. U.S. Catholic bishops and major anti-abortion groups 
opposed it, arguing that federal dollars could end up paying for abortions. 

Stephanie Schriock, president of EMILY's List , said Palin talks a good game, 
but her version of what American women want doesn't honor freedom and 
independence. She mentioned the Democratic lawmakers whom Palin had targeted 
for their votes for health care overhaul . 

"First she puts targets on their back, then she wants the government in their 
bedrooms — what is Sarah Palin doing to Western women?" said Schriock. EMILY'S 
List helps candidates who back abortion rights. 


Palin also criticized the media, singling out their coverage of her daughter 
Bristol, whose pregnancy was announced days after Palin was named

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Keith Johnson]

Exactly! Like I said earlier, Thomas Jefferson himself said that the 
Constitution might need to be rewritten every few years in order to stay 
current. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Kelwyn"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:33:31 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 






Last week Obama repeated Thurgood Marshall's comment about the constitution 
being flawed and Michael Steele (the Notorious G.O.P.) protested saying "no, it 
isn't!" Meaning, of course, that Steele is perfectly okay with being 3/5ths of 
a person. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> 
> Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the Constitution". 
> I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the Constitution. 
> Even some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued started under 
> Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses, wiretaps, etc., 
> which come way closer to violate the Constitution than anything Obama's 
> initiated. 
> There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward 
> Obama at the root of much of this. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mr. Worf"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here 
> since Cinco de Mayo. 
> 
> Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!" 
> Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?" 
> Old woman - blank stare... 
> Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking 
> away??" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
> You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama 
> wants to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping 
> statement. It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say 
> "A pure dee lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that 
> are pure lies? Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if 
> he did want to restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of 
> doing--it's not the same thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for 
> Christ's sake--something I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the 
> most pro-abortion President ever. Again, how is such lying permitted? 
> But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
> presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
> believe that's his goal". 
> 
> *** 
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin 
> 
> Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 
> 
> 
> 
> CHARLOTTE, N.C. â€" Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday 
> that President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a 
> separate gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this 
> November, sweeping away the Democratic agenda. 
> 
> Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle 
> Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping 
> Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political 
> backlash. 
> 
> "Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with it, 
> they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment," said 
> Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun range 
> in Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to stop them 
> in their tracks." 
> 
> Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a 
> Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has largely 
> been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or 
> strengthening background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law 
> allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks. 
> 
> Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party 
> activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that 
> the movement had roots in violence, racis

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

[Keith Johnson]

Yeah it's maddening. I didn't get the rise-and-fall of "Chocolate News", which 
was a damn site better than a lot of those standup performances that Comedy 
Central often broadcasts late night. As for Donahue, it wasn't just the 
advertisers' lack of support. The bosses at MSNBC ran scared from Day One with 
his show, actually *ordering* him to feature two conservative guests for every 
liberal guest he had on his show. They were always on him about not appearing 
disloyal, not attacking the president, and in time they just wanted him gone. 
He--along with the truth, common sense, and common decency--is another victim 
of those horrible post-9/11 years where fear ruled this country. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelwyn"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:16:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 






Of course it is about profits. At the advent of the cable age we were promised 
a thousand channels appealing to a thousand different constituencies. A 
different slice for everybody. What we got is extreme narrow casting, a 
thousand channels all showing L&O reruns. 

A major fly in this ointment is advertising. Advertisers decide content by what 
programs they will financially support. 

Faux News is profitable way beyond their number of viewers. 

Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC but was cancelled because 
advertisers would not support his show. 

David Alan Grier's "Chocolate News" ranked first in all television among men 
18-24 and number one in cable viewers among males ages 18-34. Wouldn't you 
think advertisers would want to reach viewers in that valued demographic? 
Wouldn't you think Spike would be interested in picking up a show that appealed 
to that demographic? 

Nah. 

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> 
> Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you look 
> at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they stand 
> for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids", 
> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer 
> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be... 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Baxter"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply... 
> 
> To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good 
> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap." 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They 
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be 
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate better 
> viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on Friday 
> nights? I just don't get this... 
> 
> *** 
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>  
> Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 
> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 
> 
> 
> Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
> launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown , 
> newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 
> 
> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from broadcast 
> network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on 
> Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 
> 
> To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as 
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,� to Tuesday 
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the 
> network’s schedule in October. 
> 
> WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since launching 
> last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million viewers a 
> week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE franchise behind 
> USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 
> 
> “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have 
> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second biggest 
> after Raw ,� Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts a 
> bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of 
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.� 
> 
> ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY 
> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than 
> Fridays, typically a slower night in 

Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be Better

[Keith Johnson]

Thanks for the info. Jeez! I tried to follow all of the DreamWorks history 
online, and I have a headache: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks 

It appears that Dreamworks Animation is not producing movies in conjunction 
with Disney or Paramount, but remains independent? At least, i think that's 
what I gleaned. But then, i read that "How to Train Your Dragon" was 
co-produced with Paramount. By the way, I saw that movie last week, and it's 
great. Plot's not as deep as a Pixar film like "The Incredibles", but it's fun, 
extremely beautiful and bright to look at, and has some amazing 3D moments. 
Some of the flight and fighting scenes are literally breathtaking. it reminds 
me of "Kung Fu Panda", which was also impressive. 

As for Munns, she's very, very pretty, but I have to say that Fox, with those 
raven locks and those blue-grey eyes, is just a ravishing beauty who trumps 
most contenders. I've only seen Fox in Transformers and an ep of "Two and A 
Half Men", neither of which required any heavy lifting as an actress. I've 
never seen Munns before, though I did read that Robert Downey Jr. praised her 
ability to improvise for a bit part she has in the newest Iron Man flick. 





- Original Message - 
From: "Daryle Lockhart"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:55:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be 
Better 







Yes, sorry about that. Dreamworks is actually the studio behind this franchise. 
Spielberg is Exec producer. Though, I've reviewed my notes, and it looks like 
Spielberg may have lost Transformers in the divorce from Paramount. Not totally 
sure. I DO know the new Dreamworks is going to be a very tightly run ship. 
Disney is FAMOUS for micromanaging a project, and this is Reliance's big foray 
into American movie making. So this is going to be an interesting ride. If 
Paramount keeps Transformers...I dunno. Seems like they're gonna just let the 
wheels come off, take the writeoff (and tax credits) and then pull the plug 
after 3 movies. 


As an aside...we haven't had our poll here in a while, but I, for one, am tired 
of Megan Fox, and after seeing Jennifer's Body...I vote no confidence in 
Megan's looks to carry a movie. Or even a scene. It is time to give Olivia Munn 
of G4 more to do. As eye candy goes...it's time for more diversity for real. 




On May 14, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: 






I just can't raise the excitement to watch the second one. Like I said, the 
over-the-top camera work--and you *know* how much I rail against hyperactive 
cameras in movies--turned me off. I watched a good twenty minutes in the Sony 
store at Lenox Mall here in Atlanta, and I developed a headache, as if I'd 
eaten too much sugar and fat-laden food in a hurry. it was noise, explosions, 
and quick-cut scenes. 
Meagan Fox is gorgeous, truly one of the prettiest actresses around. I always 
applaud H'Wood when it remembers that raven-haired beauties deserve as much of 
a chance as the blondes who too often dominate. But i've never sat through a 
scifi movie only because an actress in it was pretty. 

Can you explain the studio reference you mentioned? Is Dreamworks behind 
Transformers? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Daryle Lockhart"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:19:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be 
Better 






Let's just say...he's in Oliver Stone's "Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps". 


Transformers 2 was sloppy. they were editing that movie up until 1 month before 
it hit screens. It was trying to do too much. That, and everybody was drinking 
the Megan Fox Kool-Aid. 


I believe T3 will be better if the studio tightens its grip on Michael Bay. 
Dreamworks isn't at Paramount anymore. This is Disney and Reliance. They WILL 
get this right or we'll be reading about a ROM movie coming out in 2012. 





On May 14, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: 





Keith, I haven't seen the first one. This isn't much in the way of inspiration 
to invest. LaBoeuf is a good actor. He's gotta be getting better offers than 
this. I HOPE. 


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 









Interesting. I still haven't seen the second one. The bloated action trailers, 
the long snippets I've seen on TVs at electronic stores, those stereotyped 
ghetto robots--all kept me away from the sequel. Didn't help I wasn't too 
impressed with the first flick past the FX. The way the Transformers were 
minimized in favor of the stupid humans didn't appeal to me, nor did the change 
to lore (the "Lifespark"? Megatron the source for most of our tech? Blah!) If 
LeBeouf himself is saying the second one was worse? I may never see it... 

* 
LaBeouf promises better 'Transformers' next time 

By DAVID GERMAIN 


The Associated 

Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

[Keith Johnson]

What do you watch on the Encore Westerns channel? 


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:19:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 






Keith, it's that scattershot approach to programming that makes me pick and 
choose what I view. I'm not on any one channel consistently -- no, I do stay on 
Encore Westerns a lot more than others. 


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 









Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you look at 
some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they stand for 
anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids", "Cheers", 
"Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer tell what the 
station's particular focus is supposed to be... 


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter" < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 






Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply... 

To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good people 
to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap." 



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 










Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They claim 
it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be replaced by 
another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate better viewership. 
But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on Friday nights? I just 
don't get this... 

*** 
http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
 
Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 

By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 


Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown , 
newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 

Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series — which migrates from broadcast 
network MyNetworkTV — beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on Fridays 
that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 

To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as Caprica 
and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,” to Tuesday nights.Th ey 
replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the network’s 
schedule in October. 

WWE NXT — formerly ECW — has averaged 1.4 million viewers since launching last 
month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million viewers a week on 
MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE franchise behind USA 
Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 

“I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have and 
bring in a bigger WWE franchise — SmackDown being the second biggest after Raw 
,” Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts a bigger, more family 
oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of cross-promotion with the 
rest of the schedule.” 


ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY 
Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than 
Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman 
original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8 million 
total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights. 

Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted series in 
the Friday 10 p.m. time slot. 

“We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use SmackDown as a 
springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats of our scripted 
shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown audience across our 
schedule,” he said. 

WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations” with other 
distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT . 




-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 







-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

Re: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!

[Mr. Worf]

Anyone want to make a bet on NBC not doing well next year? :)

Wasn't 4 million considered good ratings a few years ago?

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Mike Street  wrote:

>
>
> http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/05/14/heroes-canceled-by-nbc/
>
> 
>
> It seemed inevitable but the news is nonetheless shocking: NBC’s drama *
> Heroes *won’t be back for a fifth season. The beleaguered drama only
> averaged 6.5 million viewers this year. It last aired on Feb. 8, when it
> only brought in a mere 4.4 million.
>
> The show never managed to recapture those stellar ratings from its
> critically-beloved first season, when it averaged a whopping 14.5 million.
> There has been talk that NBC may air a movie that allows the producers to
> wrap up the story, but nothing has been set in stone. NBC will announce its
> fall lineup to advertisers Monday in New York.
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think the writers strike did it in. In a lot of ways nothing has been
>> good since.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Bosco Bosco  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was a corpse after the second season. It just took the network a while
>>> to realize all the blood had been squeezed out of it.
>>>
>>> --- On *Fri, 5/14/10, Mr. Worf * wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Mr. Worf 
>>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!
>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 6:51 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just saw on G4 the show Heroes was officially canceled today. Chuck was
>>> renewed for season 4.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!

[Mike Street]

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/05/14/heroes-canceled-by-nbc/



It seemed inevitable but the news is nonetheless shocking: NBC’s drama *
Heroes *won’t be back for a fifth season. The beleaguered drama only
averaged 6.5 million viewers this year. It last aired on Feb. 8, when it
only brought in a mere 4.4 million.

The show never managed to recapture those stellar ratings from its
critically-beloved first season, when it averaged a whopping 14.5 million.
There has been talk that NBC may air a movie that allows the producers to
wrap up the story, but nothing has been set in stone. NBC will announce its
fall lineup to advertisers Monday in New York.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I think the writers strike did it in. In a lot of ways nothing has been
> good since.
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Bosco Bosco  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It was a corpse after the second season. It just took the network a while
>> to realize all the blood had been squeezed out of it.
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 5/14/10, Mr. Worf * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Mr. Worf 
>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 6:51 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just saw on G4 the show Heroes was officially canceled today. Chuck was
>> renewed for season 4.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>
>  
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[scifinoir2] Shuttle Atlantis Blasts Off on Final Voyage

[Mr. Worf]

Shuttle Atlantis Blasts Off on Final VoyageThe 32nd and final flight for
Atlantis is taking six astronauts -- and a lot of gear -- to the space
station.

 Fri May 14, 2010 02:41 PM ET
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THE GIST

   - This is space shuttle Atlantis' 32nd and final flight.
   - The shuttle is packed with space station gear and six astronauts.
   - Atlantis is due to reach the space station on Sunday.

  [image: atlantis launch]

Space shuttle Atlantis sets off on its final voyage under bright blue skies
from NASA's Kennedy Space Center.
*NASA*

Space shuttle Atlantis thundered away on its final voyage to orbit Friday,
hoisting an experienced crew of six and a full shipment of space station
gear.

Atlantis sped through a perfectly clear afternoon sky, blazing a trail over
the Atlantic before huge crowds eager to catch one of the few remaining
shuttle launches.

Its destination is the International Space Station, which was soaring over
the South Pacific at the time of liftoff. The shuttle should catch up with
the orbiting complex and its six residents Sunday.

More than 40,000 guests -- the biggest launch-day crowd in years --
descended on the Kennedy Space Center and the roads leading into it, all of
them eager to witness Atlantis' last launch. The shuttle obliged, roaring
off the pad right on time.

"Good luck, godspeed and have a little fun up there," launch director Mike
Leinbach told the astronauts just before liftoff. He said he was speaking on
behalf of all those who have worked on Atlantis since the beginning.

"If you don't mind, we'll take her out of the barn and make a few more laps
around the planet," replied commander Kenneth Ham.
 [image: dark energy]
*WATCH VIDEO: Kasey-Dee Gardner finds out what it is like to be launch
director at NASA.
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The astronauts -- all repeat space fliers and all men -- couldn't resist a
little humor before they got down to business. They showed up for their
steak and cheeseburger breakfast wearing blue and black smoking jackets,
white shirts and black bow ties. It was probably the most formal attire ever
worn by astronauts on launch day, even it was just for a quick photo.

The only concern during Friday's countdown involved a small ball bearing
found in Atlantis' payload bay earlier this week. Engineers scrambled to
determine the bearing likely came from a spacewalk camera, and cleared the
launch with just minutes remaining.

The 12-day mission is the last one for Atlantis, the fourth in NASA's line
of space shuttles. Only two flights remain after this one, by Discovery and
Endeavour. NASA plans to end the 30-year program by the end of this year.

Atlantis rocketed into orbit for the first time in 1985. This will be its
32nd trip and the 132nd shuttle flight overall.

The shuttle is loaded with fresh batteries and a Russian-built compartment
for the space station.

The 20-foot-long module -- named Rassvet in Russian, meaning Dawn -- is
crammed with food, laptop

Re: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!

[Mr. Worf]

I think the writers strike did it in. In a lot of ways nothing has been good
since.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Bosco Bosco  wrote:

>
>
> It was a corpse after the second season. It just took the network a while
> to realize all the blood had been squeezed out of it.
>
> --- On *Fri, 5/14/10, Mr. Worf * wrote:
>
>
> From: Mr. Worf 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 6:51 PM
>
>
>
>
> I just saw on G4 the show Heroes was officially canceled today. Chuck was
> renewed for season 4.
>
>
>
>
> 
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!

[Bosco Bosco]

It was a corpse after the second season. It just took the network a while to 
realize all the blood had been squeezed out of it.

--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Mr. Worf  wrote:

From: Mr. Worf 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 6:51 PM







 



  



  
  
  I just saw on G4 the show Heroes was officially canceled today. Chuck was 
renewed for season 4. 





 





 



  






  

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Bosco Bosco]

It's funny that they weren't worried about the constitution when habeas corpus 
was suspended. The fundamental right that is the basis of democracy and freedom 
was destroyed and they couldn't be bothered to utter a sound. 

Teabaggers are proof that democracy is doomed. Democracy depends on an educated 
and self interested population. Teabaggers are merely the most vocal of a 
deeply stupid majority that are hell bent to destroy everything any intelligent 
person holds sacred through willful destructive ignorance. 

I am officially sanctioning intellectual facism.

Bosco

--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Keith Johnson  wrote:

From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 12:11 AM







 



  



  
  
  Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the 
Constitution" . I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the 
Constitution. Even some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued 
started under Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses, 
wiretaps, etc., which come way closer to violate the Constitution than anything 
Obama's initiated.
There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward Obama 
at the root of much of this.

- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could








 



  



  
  
  You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here 
since Cinco de Mayo. 

Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!" 
Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?"

Old woman - blank stare...
Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking away??"



On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





















See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama wants 
to "ban guns and ammunition"?  That's such a general and sweeping statement. 
It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say "A pure dee 
lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that are pure lies? 
Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if he did want to 
restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of doing--it's not the same 
thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for Christ's sake--something 
I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the most pro-abortion President 
ever. Again, how is such lying permitted?

But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
believe that's his goal".

 * * * * ***

http://news. yahoo.com/ s/ap/20100515/ ap_on_el_ ge/us_palin

Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday that 
President Barack Obama wants to gut 
the Second Amendment and told a separate 
gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this November, 
sweeping away the Democratic agenda.
Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate, told National Rifle Association 
members 
during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping Obama and his 
Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political backlash.
"Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with it, 
they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment," said 
Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun range in 
Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to stop them in 
their tracks."
Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a 
Democrat-led White House and 
Congress, but President Barack Obama has largely been silent on issues such as 
reviving an assault weapons ban 
or strengthening background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law 
allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks.
Palin, the GOP's 2008 vice presidential nominee, also 
praised tea party activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at 
suggestions that the movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before 
adding: "I don't really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you 
the truth."
She proceeded to read several redneck jokes off her phone and talked about how 
she 
could relate to some of them.
During an event earlier Friday in Washington sponsored by a

[scifinoir2] Art of Frank Frazetta 2 [5 Attachments]

[Mr. Worf]

[scifinoir2] Art of Frank Frazetta [5 Attachments]

[Mr. Worf]

Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be Better

[Mr. Worf]

I like Olivia Munn. She is a funny in a edgy geeky kind of way. I have yet
to see her act outside of silly skits on her show.

I hate to say it but you need more than a young woman in shorts to drive a
movie nowadays. Audiences are a little more sophisticated than they once
were and Hollywood needs to learn that lesson.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Daryle Lockhart
wrote:

>
>
> Yes,  sorry  about that. Dreamworks is actually the studio behind this
> franchise. Spielberg is Exec producer. Though,  I've reviewed my notes,  and
> it  looks like Spielberg may have lost Transformers in the divorce from
> Paramount. Not totally sure.  I DO know the new Dreamworks is going to  be a
> very tightly run ship.  Disney is FAMOUS for micromanaging a project, and
> this is Reliance's big foray into  American movie making. So  this is going
> to  be an interesting  ride. If Paramount keeps Transformers...I dunno.
>  Seems like  they're gonna just  let  the wheels come off, take the writeoff
> (and tax credits)  and then pull the plug after 3 movies.
>
> As an aside...we haven't had our poll here in a while,  but I,  for one,
>  am tired of Megan Fox,  and after seeing Jennifer's Body...I vote no
> confidence in Megan's looks to carry a movie. Or even a scene. It is time to
>  give Olivia Munn of G4 more to do. As eye candy goes...it's time for more
> diversity for real.
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
>
>
> I just can't raise the excitement to watch the second one. Like I said, the
> over-the-top camera work--and you *know* how much I rail against hyperactive
> cameras in movies--turned me off. I watched a good twenty minutes in the
> Sony store at Lenox Mall here in Atlanta, and I developed a headache, as if
> I'd eaten too much sugar and fat-laden food in a hurry. it was noise,
> explosions, and quick-cut scenes.
> Meagan Fox is gorgeous, truly one of the prettiest actresses around. I
> always applaud H'Wood when it remembers that raven-haired beauties deserve
> as much of a chance as the blondes who too often dominate. But i've never
> sat through a scifi movie only because an actress in it was pretty.
>
> Can you explain the studio reference you mentioned? Is Dreamworks behind
> Transformers?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:19:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be
>  Better
>
>
>
> Let's just say...he's in Oliver Stone's "Wall Street 2: Money Never
> Sleeps".
>
> Transformers 2 was sloppy. they  were editing that  movie up until 1 month
> before it hit screens.  It  was trying to  do  too much.  That,  and
> everybody  was drinking the Megan Fox Kool-Aid.
>
> I  believe T3 will be better if the studio tightens its grip  on Michael
> Bay. Dreamworks isn't at Paramount anymore. This is Disney and Reliance.
>  They WILL get this right  or we'll  be reading about a ROM movie coming out
> in 2012.
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>
>
> Keith, I haven't seen the first one. This isn't much in the way of
> inspiration to invest. LaBoeuf is a good actor. He's gotta be getting better
> offers than this. I HOPE.
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Interesting. I still haven't seen the second one. The bloated action
>> trailers, the long snippets I've seen on TVs at  electronic stores, those
>> stereotyped ghetto robots--all kept me away from the sequel. Didn't help I
>> wasn't too impressed with the first flick past the FX. The way the
>> Transformers were minimized in favor of the stupid humans didn't appeal to
>> me, nor did the change to lore (the "Lifespark"? Megatron the source for
>> most of our tech? Blah!) If LeBeouf himself is saying the second one was
>> worse? I may never see it...
>>
>> *
>> LaBeouf promises better 'Transformers' next time
>> By DAVID GERMAIN
>>
>> The Associated Press
>>
>>
>> CANNES, France — Shia LaBeouf says the second "Transformers" movie got too
>> big for its own good — but the third one brings the heart back to the
>> franchise.
>> LaBeouf, who starts work on the next "Transformers" sequel Tuesday, said
>> the third installment will be the best one yet. The new script restores a
>> human element that got lost in the second movie, LaBeouf said.
>>
>>
>> "When I saw the second movie, I wasn't impressed with what we did,"
>> LaBeouf said in an interview Thursday at the Cannes Film Festival, where his
>> finance drama "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps" is premiering. "There were
>> some really wild stunts in it, but the heart was gone."
>>
>>
>> "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" was a runaway commercial success but
>> was drubbed by critics.
>>
>> Michael Bay returns for the third time as director of the science-fiction
>> franchise, which centers on dueling races of giant robots that bring their
>> war to Earth. The nex

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

[Mr. Worf]

Chocolate News was hilarious! I don't think that it could have appeared on
any other network but comedy central but they have a bad rep for keeping
good shows too.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> Of course it is about profits.  At the advent of the cable age we were
> promised a thousand channels appealing to a thousand different
> constituencies.  A different slice for everybody.  What we got is extreme
> narrow casting, a thousand channels all showing L&O reruns.
>
> A major fly in this ointment is advertising.  Advertisers decide content by
> what programs they will financially support.
>
> Faux News is profitable way beyond their number of viewers.
>
> Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC but was cancelled because
> advertisers would not support his show.
>
> David Alan Grier's "Chocolate News" ranked first in all television among
> men 18-24 and number one in cable viewers among males ages 18-34.  Wouldn't
> you think advertisers would want to reach viewers in that valued
> demographic?  Wouldn't you think Spike would be interested in picking up a
> show that appealed to that demographic?
>
> Nah.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you
> look at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they
> stand for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids",
> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer
> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be...
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply...
> >
> > To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good
> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap."
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate
> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on
> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
> >
> > ***
> >
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
> > Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays
> > By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
> >
> >
> > Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the
> fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night
> SmackDown , newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
> >
> > Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from
> broadcast network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m.
> slot on Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series.
> >
> > To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,† to Tuesday
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the
> network’s schedule in October.
> >
> > WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
> launching last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million
> viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE
> franchise behind USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw .
> >
> > “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already
> have and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second
> biggest after Raw ,† Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts
> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.â€
> >
> > ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY
> > Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights.
> >
> > Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot.
> >
> > “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use
> SmackDown as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats
> of our scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown
> audience across our schedule,† he said.
> >
> > WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations† with other
> distribu

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Mr. Worf]

Did you hear about what they are doing in Texas to change the history books?
They believe that the history books were written by "left leaning liberals
who had an agenda." The history books there were already horrible when I
went to school there in the 70s. They didn't include the civil rights
movement, MLK or watergate. I don't know if they replaced them after I left
but I doubt they did much in the way of improving them.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> And don't forget Arizona. Not only are the bastards turning civilian police
> into immigration enforces--and then *forcing* them to become so by codifying
> law allowing people to sue them for not doing it--now they're after
> diversity education. They recently passed a law to control and limit classes
> that teach Mexican-American, Native, or other history. the claim is that
> these classes are nothing but anti-American forums where radical teachers
> feed the kids the bread of Marxism, treason, revolution, and hatred of all
> things white and American. No lie. I listened to a high ranking school
> official in Arizona on NPR's "Tell Me More" who said these things. He says
> that education shouldn't be based on race (which he deemed an "unimportant"
> quality) and that kids should be educated to love America, not hate it as he
> claims these classes are doing.
> It had to happen sooner or later. Five centuries of dominance on the
> continent, and now they're faced with a President of color, an increasing
> Latino population, and people of color emboldened and more empowered to
> fight for ourselves. So now it's a battle of some whites to protect their
> vision of America. No matter that most public school education when
> dominated by whites has always glorified Europe and ignored or downplayed
> Africa and Latin America. That bias is okay, but Heaven forbid other groups
> try to balance the educational scales...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:29:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
>
>
>
> I agree, but I fear that sooner or later there will be a violent incident
> that will come from this. Either from the frenzy that has been generated by
> the teabagger lies or from reactions to stupid laws passed by politicians
> trying please the teabaggers.
>
> Today, Ahnald's spokesperson announced a huge list of cuts today in order
> to get the state of California "back on budget." Most of the cuts destroy
> programs most needed in hard times such as the job program, welfare etc.
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Keith Johnson  > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the
>> Constitution". I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the
>> Constitution. Even some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued
>> started under Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses,
>> wiretaps, etc., which come way closer to violate the Constitution than
>> anything Obama's initiated.
>> There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward
>> Obama at the root of much of this.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mr. Worf" 
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
>>
>>
>>
>> You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here
>> since Cinco de Mayo.
>>
>> Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!"
>> Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?"
>> Old woman - blank stare...
>> Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking
>> away??"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like
>>> Palin. You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying
>>> Obama wants to "ban guns and ammunition"?  That's such a general and
>>> sweeping statement. It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom
>>> used to say "A pure dee lie!". How is it she can make public statements like
>>> this that are pure lies? Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all
>>>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Mr. Worf]

He's happy being 3/5ths as long as the white man accepts him and he can hang
out with them.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> Last week Obama repeated Thurgood Marshall's comment about the constitution
> being flawed and Michael Steele (the Notorious G.O.P.) protested saying "no,
> it isn't!"  Meaning, of course, that Steele is perfectly okay with being
> 3/5ths of a person.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the
> Constitution". I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the
> Constitution. Even some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued
> started under Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses,
> wiretaps, etc., which come way closer to violate the Constitution than
> anything Obama's initiated.
> > There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward
> Obama at the root of much of this.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mr. Worf" 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here
> since Cinco de Mayo.
> >
> > Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!"
> > Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?"
> > Old woman - blank stare...
> > Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking
> away??"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like
> Palin. You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying
> Obama wants to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping
> statement. It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to
> say "A pure dee lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this
> that are pure lies? Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns.
> Even if he did want to restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of
> doing--it's not the same thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks,
> for Christ's sake--something I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's
> the most pro-abortion President ever. Again, how is such lying permitted?
> > But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and
> when presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I
> still believe that's his goal".
> >
> > ***
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin
> >
> > Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
> >
> >
> >
> > CHARLOTTE, N.C. â€" Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members
> Friday that President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and
> told a separate gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win
> this November, sweeping away the Democratic agenda.
> >
> > Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle
> Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping
> Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political
> backlash.
> >
> > "Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with
> it, they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment,"
> said Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun
> range in Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to
> stop them in their tracks."
> >
> > Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under
> a Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has
> largely been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or
> strengthening background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law
> allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks.
> >
> > Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party
> activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that
> the movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Martin Baxter]

LMNAO!! Might explain the note-perfect Stepin Fetchit he does at
times.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> Last week Obama repeated Thurgood Marshall's comment about the constitution
> being flawed and Michael Steele (the Notorious G.O.P.) protested saying "no,
> it isn't!" Meaning, of course, that Steele is perfectly okay with being
> 3/5ths of a person.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith
> Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the
> Constitution". I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the
> Constitution. Even some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued
> started under Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses,
> wiretaps, etc., which come way closer to violate the Constitution than
> anything Obama's initiated.
> > There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward
> Obama at the root of much of this.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mr. Worf" 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here
> since Cinco de Mayo.
> >
> > Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!"
> > Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?"
> > Old woman - blank stare...
> > Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking
> away??"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like
> Palin. You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying
> Obama wants to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping
> statement. It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to
> say "A pure dee lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this
> that are pure lies? Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns.
> Even if he did want to restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of
> doing--it's not the same thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks,
> for Christ's sake--something I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's
> the most pro-abortion President ever. Again, how is such lying permitted?
> > But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and
> when presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I
> still believe that's his goal".
> >
> > ***
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin
> >
> > Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
> >
> >
> >
> > CHARLOTTE, N.C. â€" Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members
> Friday that President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and
> told a separate gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win
> this November, sweeping away the Democratic agenda.
> >
> > Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle
> Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping
> Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political
> backlash.
> >
> > "Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with
> it, they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment,"
> said Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun
> range in Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to
> stop them in their tracks."
> >
> > Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under
> a Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has
> largely been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or
> strengthening background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law
> allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks.
> >
> > Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party
> activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that
> the movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I

Re: [scifinoir2] Leapin' Lizards! Little Orphan Annie strip cancelled

[Martin Baxter]

U...

It was still running?

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
>
> http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-05-13/business/ct-biz-0513-phil-annie-20100513_1_jay-maeder-strip-orphan-annie
>
> Through more than 85 years of hardships and challenges — spanning the Great
> Depression, a world war, foreign cabals, corruption at home, several
> kidnappings and, well, being an orphan — she somehow always found a way to
> triumph.
>
> In the changing media landscape, however, Little Orphan Annie has run into
> adversity not even she could overcome. The sun will come out tomorrow, but
> the tomorrow after June 13 will be the first in generations to dawn without
> "Annie" appearing in a daily newspaper.
>
> The final Sunday panel of the strip, once seen in hundreds of papers but
> now run by fewer than 20, will end with Daddy Warbucks uncertain over what
> happened to Annie in her latest run-in with the Butcher of the Balkans. And,
> leaping lizards, what about her dog, Sandy? Arf.
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

[scifinoir2] Leapin' Lizards! Little Orphan Annie strip cancelled

[Kelwyn]

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-05-13/business/ct-biz-0513-phil-annie-20100513_1_jay-maeder-strip-orphan-annie

Through more than 85 years of hardships and challenges — spanning the Great 
Depression, a world war, foreign cabals, corruption at home, several 
kidnappings and, well, being an orphan — she somehow always found a way to 
triumph.

In the changing media landscape, however, Little Orphan Annie has run into 
adversity not even she could overcome. The sun will come out tomorrow, but the 
tomorrow after June 13 will be the first in generations to dawn without "Annie" 
appearing in a daily newspaper.

The final Sunday panel of the strip, once seen in hundreds of papers but now 
run by fewer than 20, will end with Daddy Warbucks uncertain over what happened 
to Annie in her latest run-in with the Butcher of the Balkans. And, leaping 
lizards, what about her dog, Sandy? Arf.

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Keith Johnson]

I agree, Martin. I'm well aware of all the machinations of politics, but I am 
still so naive/idealistic that I have a huge problem when people outright lie 
about opponents, and a bigger problem when the lies and behavior are accepted, 
even embraced. I thought we crossed the line when Hillary Clinton started the 
"he pals around with terrorists" stuff...I thought we crossed it again with the 
"he's a socialist" cry from Palin and others...the bigots like Lou Dobbs who 
said he wasn't a real AmericanPalin saying he and his "left wing media" 
didn't respect women (though he clearly does, being surrounded by them in 
family and professional life)...when it was claimed he wanted to take all the 
guns, and gun sales skyrocketed before the election...with the "death panels" 
cry...when Joe Wilson committed one of the most reprehensible acts in American 
political history and called a duly elected leader a liar on national 
television-- 

how many times can a line be crossed? Like Worf just said, it's no longer about 
my views or feelings, per se, but a very real and worrying schism that the 
extreme rights creating which will render anything close to civil debate all 
but impossible. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:11:18 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 






Keith, it's pandering to the sheeple again. She's aiming directly at those who 
get all their news from Faux/Fixed/Fox, and couldn't think outside the box if 
you ripped out five sides of it. And she can get away with it, unfortunately, 
as she herself would tell you (after considerable prompting from her handlers) 
that it's her Constitutional right to speak freely, even if all of her words 
are lies. She could probably say that *literally*, and her followers would 
still call it "media manipulation of her words". 


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 









See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama wants 
to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping statement. 
It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say "A pure dee 
lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that are pure lies? 
Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if he did want to 
restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of doing--it's not the same 
thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for Christ's sake--something 
I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the most pro-abortion President 
ever. Again, how is such lying permitted? 
But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
believe that's his goal". 

*** 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin 

Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 



CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday that 
President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a separate 
gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this November, 
sweeping away the Democratic agenda. 

Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle 
Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping 
Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political backlash. 

"Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with it, 
they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment," said 
Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun range in 
Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to stop them in 
their tracks." 

Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a 
Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has largely 
been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or strengthening 
background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law allowing people to 
carry loaded guns in national parks. 

Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party 
activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that the 
movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I don't 
really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you the truth." 

She proceeded to read several redneck jokes off her phone and talked about how 
she could

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Keith Johnson]

And don't forget Arizona. Not only are the bastards turning civilian police 
into immigration enforces--and then *forcing* them to become so by codifying 
law allowing people to sue them for not doing it--now they're after diversity 
education. They recently passed a law to control and limit classes that teach 
Mexican-American, Native, or other history. the claim is that these classes are 
nothing but anti-American forums where radical teachers feed the kids the bread 
of Marxism, treason, revolution, and hatred of all things white and American. 
No lie. I listened to a high ranking school official in Arizona on NPR's "Tell 
Me More" who said these things. He says that education shouldn't be based on 
race (which he deemed an "unimportant" quality) and that kids should be 
educated to love America, not hate it as he claims these classes are doing. 
It had to happen sooner or later. Five centuries of dominance on the continent, 
and now they're faced with a President of color, an increasing Latino 
population, and people of color emboldened and more empowered to fight for 
ourselves. So now it's a battle of some whites to protect their vision of 
America. No matter that most public school education when dominated by whites 
has always glorified Europe and ignored or downplayed Africa and Latin America. 
That bias is okay, but Heaven forbid other groups try to balance the 
educational scales... 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:29:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 






I agree, but I fear that sooner or later there will be a violent incident that 
will come from this. Either from the frenzy that has been generated by the 
teabagger lies or from reactions to stupid laws passed by politicians trying 
please the teabaggers. 

Today, Ahnald's spokesperson announced a huge list of cuts today in order to 
get the state of California "back on budget." Most of the cuts destroy programs 
most needed in hard times such as the job program, welfare etc. 


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the Constitution". I 
keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the Constitution. Even 
some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued started under 
Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses, wiretaps, etc., 
which come way closer to violate the Constitution than anything Obama's 
initiated. 
There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward Obama 
at the root of much of this. 




- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 









You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here since 
Cinco de Mayo. 

Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!" 
Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?" 
Old woman - blank stare... 
Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking away??" 




On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama wants 
to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping statement. 
It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say "A pure dee 
lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that are pure lies? 
Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if he did want to 
restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of doing--it's not the same 
thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for Christ's sake--something 
I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the most pro-abortion President 
ever. Again, how is such lying permitted? 
But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
believe that's his goal". 

*** 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin 

Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 



CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday that 
President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a separate 
gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this No

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Kelwyn]

Last week Obama repeated Thurgood Marshall's comment about the constitution 
being flawed and Michael Steele (the Notorious G.O.P.) protested saying "no, it 
isn't!"  Meaning, of course, that Steele is perfectly okay with being 3/5ths of 
a person.

~rave!  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> Ha-ha! It's like the tired refrain, "We're standing up for the Constitution". 
> I keep trying to figure out what Obama's done to thwart the Constitution. 
> Even some of the things from Bush he's unfortunately continued started under 
> Bush--and none of them complained about Patriot Act abuses, wiretaps, etc., 
> which come way closer to violate the Constitution than anything Obama's 
> initiated. 
> There is no way they can deny that there's a huge personal animus toward 
> Obama at the root of much of this. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mr. Worf"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:58:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You should hear the crazy rants that the teabaggers have been doing here 
> since Cinco de Mayo. 
> 
> Old woman - "They're taking away our rights!" 
> Newscaster - "What rights are they taking away?" 
> Old woman - blank stare... 
> Newscaster - "Can you answer the question? What exactly are they taking 
> away??" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like Palin. 
> You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying Obama 
> wants to "ban guns and ammunition"? That's such a general and sweeping 
> statement. It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom used to say 
> "A pure dee lie!". How is it she can make public statements like this that 
> are pure lies? Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all guns. Even if 
> he did want to restrict assault weapons--something I'm in favor of 
> doing--it's not the same thing. The guy legalized guns in national parks, for 
> Christ's sake--something I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say that he's the 
> most pro-abortion President ever. Again, how is such lying permitted? 
> But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and when 
> presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I still 
> believe that's his goal". 
> 
> *** 
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin 
> 
> Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could 
> 
> 
> 
> CHARLOTTE, N.C. â€" Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday 
> that President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a 
> separate gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this 
> November, sweeping away the Democratic agenda. 
> 
> Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate , told National Rifle 
> Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing stopping 
> Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is political 
> backlash. 
> 
> "Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with it, 
> they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment," said 
> Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun range 
> in Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to stop them 
> in their tracks." 
> 
> Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a 
> Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has largely 
> been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or 
> strengthening background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law 
> allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks. 
> 
> Palin, the GOP 's 2008 vice presidential nominee , also praised tea party 
> activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that 
> the movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I 
> don't really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you the 
> truth." 
> 
> She proceeded to read several redneck jokes off her phone and talked about 
> how she could relate to some of them. 
> 
> During an event earlier Friday in Washington sponsored by an anti-abortion 
> group, she challenged Republican wome

[scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

[Kelwyn]

Of course it is about profits.  At the advent of the cable age we were promised 
a thousand channels appealing to a thousand different constituencies.  A 
different slice for everybody.  What we got is extreme narrow casting, a 
thousand channels all showing L&O reruns.  

A major fly in this ointment is advertising.  Advertisers decide content by 
what programs they will financially support.  

Faux News is profitable way beyond their number of viewers.  

Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC but was cancelled because 
advertisers would not support his show. 

David Alan Grier's "Chocolate News" ranked first in all television among men 
18-24 and number one in cable viewers among males ages 18-34.  Wouldn't you 
think advertisers would want to reach viewers in that valued demographic?  
Wouldn't you think Spike would be interested in picking up a show that appealed 
to that demographic?  

Nah.

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you look 
> at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they stand 
> for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids", 
> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer 
> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be... 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Baxter"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply... 
> 
> To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good 
> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap." 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They 
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be 
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate better 
> viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on Friday 
> nights? I just don't get this... 
> 
> *** 
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>  
> Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 
> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 
> 
> 
> Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
> launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown , 
> newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 
> 
> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from broadcast 
> network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on 
> Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 
> 
> To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as 
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,” to Tuesday 
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the 
> network’s schedule in October. 
> 
> WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since launching 
> last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million viewers a 
> week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE franchise behind 
> USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 
> 
> “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have 
> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second biggest 
> after Raw ,” Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts a 
> bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of 
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.” 
> 
> ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY 
> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than 
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman 
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8 
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights. 
> 
> Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted 
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot. 
> 
> “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use SmackDown 
> as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats of our 
> scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown audience across 
> our schedule,” he said. 
> 
> WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations” with other 
> distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT . 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>

Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be Better

[Martin Baxter]

"It is time to  give Olivia Munn of G4 more to do. As eye candy goes...it's
time for more diversity for real."

Daryle, you'll hear no arguments from me on either of these points.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Daryle Lockhart
wrote:

>
>
> Yes,  sorry  about that. Dreamworks is actually the studio behind this
> franchise. Spielberg is Exec producer. Though,  I've reviewed my notes,  and
> it  looks like Spielberg may have lost Transformers in the divorce from
> Paramount. Not totally sure.  I DO know the new Dreamworks is going to  be a
> very tightly run ship.  Disney is FAMOUS for micromanaging a project, and
> this is Reliance's big foray into  American movie making. So  this is going
> to  be an interesting  ride. If Paramount keeps Transformers...I dunno.
>  Seems like  they're gonna just  let  the wheels come off, take the writeoff
> (and tax credits)  and then pull the plug after 3 movies.
>
> As an aside...we haven't had our poll here in a while,  but I,  for one,
>  am tired of Megan Fox,  and after seeing Jennifer's Body...I vote no
> confidence in Megan's looks to carry a movie. Or even a scene. It is time to
>  give Olivia Munn of G4 more to do. As eye candy goes...it's time for more
> diversity for real.
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
>
>
> I just can't raise the excitement to watch the second one. Like I said, the
> over-the-top camera work--and you *know* how much I rail against hyperactive
> cameras in movies--turned me off. I watched a good twenty minutes in the
> Sony store at Lenox Mall here in Atlanta, and I developed a headache, as if
> I'd eaten too much sugar and fat-laden food in a hurry. it was noise,
> explosions, and quick-cut scenes.
> Meagan Fox is gorgeous, truly one of the prettiest actresses around. I
> always applaud H'Wood when it remembers that raven-haired beauties deserve
> as much of a chance as the blondes who too often dominate. But i've never
> sat through a scifi movie only because an actress in it was pretty.
>
> Can you explain the studio reference you mentioned? Is Dreamworks behind
> Transformers?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:19:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be
>  Better
>
>
>
> Let's just say...he's in Oliver Stone's "Wall Street 2: Money Never
> Sleeps".
>
> Transformers 2 was sloppy. they  were editing that  movie up until 1 month
> before it hit screens.  It  was trying to  do  too much.  That,  and
> everybody  was drinking the Megan Fox Kool-Aid.
>
> I  believe T3 will be better if the studio tightens its grip  on Michael
> Bay. Dreamworks isn't at Paramount anymore. This is Disney and Reliance.
>  They WILL get this right  or we'll  be reading about a ROM movie coming out
> in 2012.
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>
>
> Keith, I haven't seen the first one. This isn't much in the way of
> inspiration to invest. LaBoeuf is a good actor. He's gotta be getting better
> offers than this. I HOPE.
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Interesting. I still haven't seen the second one. The bloated action
>> trailers, the long snippets I've seen on TVs at  electronic stores, those
>> stereotyped ghetto robots--all kept me away from the sequel. Didn't help I
>> wasn't too impressed with the first flick past the FX. The way the
>> Transformers were minimized in favor of the stupid humans didn't appeal to
>> me, nor did the change to lore (the "Lifespark"? Megatron the source for
>> most of our tech? Blah!) If LeBeouf himself is saying the second one was
>> worse? I may never see it...
>>
>> *
>> LaBeouf promises better 'Transformers' next time
>> By DAVID GERMAIN
>>
>> The Associated Press
>>
>>
>> CANNES, France — Shia LaBeouf says the second "Transformers" movie got too
>> big for its own good — but the third one brings the heart back to the
>> franchise.
>> LaBeouf, who starts work on the next "Transformers" sequel Tuesday, said
>> the third installment will be the best one yet. The new script restores a
>> human element that got lost in the second movie, LaBeouf said.
>>
>>
>> "When I saw the second movie, I wasn't impressed with what we did,"
>> LaBeouf said in an interview Thursday at the Cannes Film Festival, where his
>> finance drama "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps" is premiering. "There were
>> some really wild stunts in it, but the heart was gone."
>>
>>
>> "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" was a runaway commercial success but
>> was drubbed by critics.
>>
>> Michael Bay returns for the third time as director of the science-fiction
>> franchise, which centers on dueling races of giant robots that bring their
>> war to Earth. The next movie will have what the last one lacked — a sense of
>> human consequences, LaBeouf said.
>>
>>
>> On the second movie, "we got lost. We tr

Re: [scifinoir2] RIP, Frank Frazetta, master of fantasy illustration

[Martin Baxter]

One of those dolls he painted may have been his lady... extra reason to
appreciate the man. Gifted AND lucky.

Requiescat in pace, sir.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:38 AM, George Arterberry <
brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Among modern fantasy illustrators, could anyone render flesh quite like *Frank
> Frazetta? *
>
> Amid all his artwork's massive swords and towering cliffscapes and
> thundering skies of menace, Frazetta could flat-out make the viewers' eye
> feel the "meat" of the thing. Coiled pythons. Poised big cats. Rippling
> torsos posed just so. Frazetta's artwork pulled you into worlds that put you
> at immediate peril -- and it all started with the sinew. Glorious, striving,
> all-too-mortal muscle.
>
> If only Mr. Frazetta were with us today to unsheath his ever-deft
> paintbrush and, wielding it like a New Master, depict his own family's
> recently resolved squabbles over his multimillion-dollar artwork. His
> relatives wouldn't be perched at courtroom tables, hoisting pissy-little
> legal briefs. They would be inserted as in the scenes his longtime wife
> Ellie, who died last year, once modeled for -- fierce moments of primal
> titanic struggle -- and his son Frank Jr.'s recent arrest on Frazetta-Museum
> robbery charges might be a brawny scene akin to the pillaging of Tarzan's
> jungle, a reptilian attorney underfoot.
>
> Sadly, though, the artist's masterful hand has rendered its last. Mr.
> Frazetta -- prolific painter of so many Conan covers and Tarzan
> illustrations and pseudo-futuristic Buck Rogers adventures -- reportedly
> died Monday in Fort Myers, Fla., after a stroke. He was 82
>
>
>
>
>
> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/comic-riffs/
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Any Black Panther updates? ( movie or BET cartoon)

[Martin Baxter]

And you're George, not "Goerge". Pardons.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

> Goerge, to quote the cinematic masterpiece "History of the World, Part
> One,", "Not a one. Nay, nay, nay."
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:41 AM, George Arterberry <
> brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ??
>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Any Black Panther updates? ( movie or BET cartoon)

[Martin Baxter]

Goerge, to quote the cinematic masterpiece "History of the World, Part
One,", "Not a one. Nay, nay, nay."

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:41 AM, George Arterberry <
brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> ??
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

[scifinoir2] Any Black Panther updates? ( movie or BET cartoon)

[George Arterberry]

??


  

[scifinoir2] RIP, Frank Frazetta, master of fantasy illustration

[George Arterberry]

Among modern fantasy illustrators, could anyone render flesh quite like Frank 
Frazetta? 
Amid all his artwork's massive swords and towering cliffscapes and thundering 
skies of menace, Frazetta could flat-out make the viewers' eye feel the "meat" 
of the thing. Coiled pythons. Poised big cats. Rippling torsos posed just so. 
Frazetta's artwork pulled you into worlds that put you at immediate peril -- 
and it all started with the sinew. Glorious, striving, all-too-mortal muscle.
If only Mr. Frazetta were with us today to unsheath his ever-deft paintbrush 
and, wielding it like a New Master, depict his own family's recently resolved 
squabbles over his multimillion-dollar artwork. His relatives wouldn't be 
perched at courtroom tables, hoisting pissy-little legal briefs. They would be 
inserted as in the scenes his longtime wife Ellie, who died last year, once 
modeled for -- fierce moments of primal titanic struggle -- and his son Frank 
Jr.'s recent arrest on Frazetta-Museum robbery charges might be a brawny scene 
akin to the pillaging of Tarzan's jungle, a reptilian attorney underfoot.
Sadly, though, the artist's masterful hand has rendered its last. Mr. Frazetta 
-- prolific painter of so many Conan covers and Tarzan illustrations and 
pseudo-futuristic Buck Rogers adventures -- reportedly died Monday in Fort 
Myers, Fla., after a stroke. He was 82
 
 
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/comic-riffs/


  

Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be Better

[Daryle Lockhart]

Yes,  sorry  about that. Dreamworks is actually the studio behind  
this franchise. Spielberg is Exec producer. Though,  I've reviewed my  
notes,  and it  looks like Spielberg may have lost Transformers in  
the divorce from Paramount. Not totally sure.  I DO know the new  
Dreamworks is going to  be a very tightly run ship.  Disney is FAMOUS  
for micromanaging a project, and this is Reliance's big foray into   
American movie making. So  this is going to  be an interesting  ride.  
If Paramount keeps Transformers...I dunno.  Seems like  they're gonna  
just  let  the wheels come off, take the writeoff (and tax credits)   
and then pull the plug after 3 movies.


As an aside...we haven't had our poll here in a while,  but I,  for  
one,  am tired of Megan Fox,  and after seeing Jennifer's Body...I  
vote no confidence in Megan's looks to carry a movie. Or even a  
scene. It is time to  give Olivia Munn of G4 more to do. As eye candy  
goes...it's time for more diversity for real.



On May 14, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:



I just can't raise the excitement to watch the second one. Like I  
said, the over-the-top camera work--and you *know* how much I rail  
against hyperactive cameras in movies--turned me off. I watched a  
good twenty minutes in the Sony store at Lenox Mall here in  
Atlanta, and I developed a headache, as if I'd eaten too much sugar  
and fat-laden food in a hurry. it was noise, explosions, and quick- 
cut scenes.
Meagan Fox is gorgeous, truly one of the prettiest actresses  
around. I always applaud H'Wood when it remembers that raven-haired  
beauties deserve as much of a chance as the blondes who too often  
dominate. But i've never sat through a scifi movie only because an  
actress in it was pretty.


Can you explain the studio reference you mentioned? Is Dreamworks  
behind Transformers?


- Original Message -
From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:19:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie  
Will Be  Better



Let's just say...he's in Oliver Stone's "Wall Street 2: Money Never  
Sleeps".



Transformers 2 was sloppy. they  were editing that  movie up until  
1 month before it hit screens.  It  was trying to  do  too much.   
That,  and everybody  was drinking the Megan Fox Kool-Aid.


I  believe T3 will be better if the studio tightens its grip  on  
Michael Bay. Dreamworks isn't at Paramount anymore. This is Disney  
and Reliance.  They WILL get this right  or we'll  be reading about  
a ROM movie coming out in 2012.



On May 14, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:


Keith, I haven't seen the first one. This isn't much in the way of  
inspiration to invest. LaBoeuf is a good actor. He's gotta be  
getting better offers than this. I HOPE.



On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Keith Johnson  
 wrote:



Interesting. I still haven't seen the second one. The bloated  
action trailers, the long snippets I've seen on TVs at  electronic  
stores, those stereotyped ghetto robots--all kept me away from the  
sequel. Didn't help I wasn't too impressed with the first flick  
past the FX. The way the Transformers were minimized in favor of  
the stupid humans didn't appeal to me, nor did the change to lore  
(the "Lifespark"? Megatron the source for most of our tech? Blah!)  
If LeBeouf himself is saying the second one was worse? I may never  
see it...


*
LaBeouf promises better 'Transformers' next time

By DAVID GERMAIN
The Associated Press



CANNES, France — Shia LaBeouf says the second "Transformers" movie  
got too big for its own good — but the third one brings the heart  
back to the franchise.


LaBeouf, who starts work on the next "Transformers" sequel Tuesday,  
said the third installment will be the best one yet. The new script  
restores a human element that got lost in the second movie, LaBeouf  
said.



"When I saw the second movie, I wasn't impressed with what we did,"  
LaBeouf said in an interview Thursday at the Cannes Film Festival,  
where his finance drama "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps" is  
premiering. "There were some really wild stunts in it, but the  
heart was gone."




"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" was a runaway commercial  
success but was drubbed by critics.


Michael Bay returns for the third time as director of the science- 
fiction franchise, which centers on dueling races of giant robots  
that bring their war to Earth. The next movie will have what the  
last one lacked — a sense of human consequences, LaBeouf said.




On the second movie, "we got lost. We tried to get bigger. It's  
what happens to sequels. It's like, how do you top the first one?  
You've got to go bigger," LaBeouf said. "Mike went so big that it  
became too big, and I think you lost the anchor of the movie. ...  
You lost a bit of the relationships. Unless you have those  
relationships, then the movie doesn't matter. Then 

Re: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!

[Mr. Worf]

That was according to G4 and Tv.com.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> Now there's no trusting any "insider reports". The last batch I had,
> through another of my groups, had "Chuck" circling the drain and "Heroes"
> and "L&O" certain pick-ups.
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I just saw on G4 the show Heroes was officially canceled today. Chuck was
>> renewed for season 4.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
> 
>



-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

Re: [scifinoir2] Just in: Heroes canceled!

[Martin Baxter]

Now there's no trusting any "insider reports". The last batch I had, through
another of my groups, had "Chuck" circling the drain and "Heroes" and "L&O"
certain pick-ups.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I just saw on G4 the show Heroes was officially canceled today. Chuck was
> renewed for season 4.
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Confessed Spy Convicted of Exporting U.S. Crypto Gear to China

[Martin Baxter]

I remember that ep, Keith.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> About ten or fifteen years ago, "20/20" aired a show on how Russian and
> Chinese spies were trying to infiltrate toy companies to steal the tech.
> This was back when toys first start being built with sophisticated computer
> tech, like the talking Teddy Ruxpin doll, fancy R/C cars and planes, etc.
> They wanted to steal the chips to goose their high tech and military
> industries. "20/20" showed how easy it was to steal stuff. The reporter got
> a tour of a toy company, and walked out with an entire stick of IC chips
> hidden up his jacket sleeve.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:29:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Confessed Spy Convicted of Exporting U.S.
>  Crypto Gear to China
>
>
>
> I think the real problem is that it is too easy to obtain stuff that is
> supposed to be classified. There are too many sources for things like this
> to slip outside of the country. Back in 2001 there was a mandate against
> selling PS2 and Xbox game counsels (and software) to the middle east because
> there was a belief that they would take them and make super computers out of
> them, but they never put anything in place world wide to prevent export
> sales of the game machines from other countries.
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Martin Baxter 
>> Date: Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Confessed Spy Convicted of Exporting U.S. Crypto Gear to China
>> To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Maybe *this* is why China's not working on a browser...
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/05/kuok/
>>
>> --
>> "Between getsumei no michi and the Zero...no better place to live."
>>
>> (About little moments of happiness) "If this isn't nice, I don't know what
>> is." -- Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country"
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
>> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>
>   
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

[Martin Baxter]

Keith, it's that scattershot approach to programming that makes me pick and
choose what I view. I'm not on any one channel consistently -- no, I do stay
on Encore Westerns a lot more than others.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you look
> at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they stand
> for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids",
> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer
> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
>
>
>
> Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply...
>
> To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good
> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap."
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They
>> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be
>> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate
>> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on
>> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
>>
>> ***
>>
>> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>> Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays
>> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
>>   *Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling* fans on Friday nights with the
>> fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular *Friday Night
>> SmackDown*, newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
>>
>> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series — which migrates from broadcast
>> network MyNetworkTV — beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on
>> Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series.
>>
>> To make room for *SmackDown*, Syfy will move original franchises such as
>> *Caprica *and *Sanctuary*, which had aired on “Syfy Friday,” to Tuesday
>> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the
>> network’s schedule in October.
>> *
>> WWE NXT* — formerly *ECW *— has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
>> launching last month. *Friday Night SmackDown* averages more than 3.4
>> million viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE
>> franchise behind USA Network’s *WWE Monday Night Raw*.
>>
>> “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have
>> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise — *SmackDown *being the second
>> biggest after *Raw*,” Syfy president Dave Howe said. “*SmackDown *attracts
>> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of
>> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.”
>>
>>
>> *ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY*
>> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than
>> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman
>> original series* Warehouse 13*, for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8
>> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights.
>>
>> Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted
>> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot.
>>
>> “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use *SmackDown
>> *as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats of our
>> scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that *SmackDown *audience
>> across our schedule,” he said.
>>
>> WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations” with other
>> distributors regarding future carriage of *WWE NXT*.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>   
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Remembering Kinji Shibuya: 'bad guy' in the wrestling ring, gentle soul outside it

[Martin Baxter]

Clearly, the world's lost a great soul, but I'm still smiling, because I
sense he's in the Best of All Places.

Requiescat in pace, sir.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> Remembering Kinji Shibuya: 'bad guy' in the wrestling ring, gentle soul
> outside it
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> By Carl Steward
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> Bay Area News Group
> Posted: 05/14/2010 09:02:48 AM PDT
> Updated: 05/14/2010 01:41:26 PM PDT
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> Former pro wrestler Kinji Shibuya, who died on May 3, is... ( Ron Burda /
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> In today's sports world, the name Kinji Shibuya may not ring a bell,
> perhaps not even in the corner of a contemporary pro wrestling ring.
>
> But for those who remember the bygone era of the immensely popular Big-Time
> Wrestling Cow Palace shows or those wild, live Friday night in-studio
> telecasts on KTVU-Channel 2 in the 1960s and '70s, there may have been no
> more recognizable sports personality on the Bay Area sports scene than the
> evil Kinji, the massive villain everybody loved to hate.
>
> It was more staged entertainment than sports, of course, and everybody had
> a schtick. Shibuya perhaps had the best. He carefully crafted his persona in
> the early 1950s as an angry Asian beast at a time when anti-Japanese
> sentiment was still running high only a few years after World War II. He not
> only made his mock nastiness work for a 25-year ring career, he parlayed it
> into TV and movie work after he retired in 1976 at 55.
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> Shibuya wrestled against and with most of the greats of his era — Pat
> Patterson, Pepper Gomez, Mr. Saito, Ray Stevens, Haystacks Calhoun and many
> more — and took a back seat in popularity to none of them, nationally as
> well as regionally. Pro wrestling was divided into as many as 30 territories
> across the United States back in the day, and according to wrestling
> historian George Schire, Shibuya touched them all and was a huge draw
> anywhere he turned up.
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> But to the Bay Area, in particular, he was its most renowned and reviled
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> bad-guy face, usually teamed with another Asian baddie in his tag-team
> specialty. He claimed numerous titles, for what they were worth, but it was
> his stage presence that made him an instantly recognizable star figure.
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> "Back in the '60s, he could walk into the fanciest restaurant in San
> Francisco and get seated right away," said his son, Robert Shibuya. "It was
> like he was Sinatra."
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> That golden era long gone, Shibuya, a resident of Hayward since 1967, died
> quietly at age 88 on May 3, initially with very little fanfare. Fortunately,
> in the time since his death, there has been a tidal wave of fond
> recollections and tributes on several Internet wrestling sites, attesting to
> his importance as a wrestling pioneer.
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> Moreover, fans and friends have been resuscitating the scope of Shibuya's
> large legacy at a grass roots level, revealing the real Kinji — a quiet,
> thoughtful family man who in his later years raised champion koi carp and
> strolled his Hayward neighborhood with a pair of garden shears, trimming
> people's shrubs just so he could spark a friendly conversation.
>
> "People out of the blue have been contacting me and my brother on our
> Facebook pages, giving their warm recollections and memories of our father,"
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> Kenji Shibuya (Shibuya family) ( CONTRIBUTED PHOTO )
> said Michele Shibuya, Kinji's daughter. "He had one of the richest lives
> anybody could ever want. Externally, he portrayed himself as this very mean,
> tough guy. But internally, he was a very kind, gentle spirit with a great
> sense of humor. He could engage people in a way that was nonthreatening and
> loving, too."
>
> That was in direct contrast to the personality who engaged and enraged
> audiences through his ring menace. Shibuya claimed to be from Japan even
> though he was born in Utah.

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could

[Martin Baxter]

Keith, it's pandering to the sheeple again. She's aiming directly at those
who get all their news from Faux/Fixed/Fox, and couldn't think outside the
box if you ripped out five sides of it. And she can get away with it,
unfortunately, as she herself would tell you (after considerable prompting
from her handlers) that it's her Constitutional right to speak freely, even
if all of her words are lies. She could probably say that *literally*, and
her followers would still call it "media manipulation of her words".

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Keith Johnson
wrote:

>
>
> See, this is why so many of us distrust the Tea Party, and idiots like
> Palin. You disagree with someone, fine. But where does she get off saying
> Obama wants to "ban guns and ammunition"?  That's such a general and
> sweeping statement. It's incendiary, inaccurate, hyperbole, and, as my mom
> used to say "A pure dee lie!". How is it she can make public statements like
> this that are pure lies? Obama has *never* intimated he wants to ban all
> guns. Even if he did want to restrict assault weapons--something I'm in
> favor of doing--it's not the same thing. The guy legalized guns in national
> parks, for Christ's sake--something I'm vehemently opposed to. And to say
> that he's the most pro-abortion President ever. Again, how is such lying
> permitted?
> But then, this is the same lady who started the "Death Panels" lie, and
> when presented with evidence it *wasn't* true, went on Facebook and said, "I
> still believe that's his goal".
>
> ***
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100515/ap_on_el_ge/us_palin
>
> Palin says Obama would ban guns if he could
>
> CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned NRA members Friday
> that President Barack Obama wants to gut the Second Amendment and told a
> separate gathering that "mama grizzlies" will help Republicans win this
> November, sweeping away the Democratic agenda.
>
> Palin, a potential 2012 presidential candidate, told National Rifle
> Association members during their annual meeting that the only thing
> stopping Obama and his Democratic allies from trying to ban guns is
> political backlash.
>
> "Don't doubt for a minute that, if they thought they could get away with
> it, they would ban guns and ban ammunition and gut the Second Amendment,"
> said Palin, a lifelong NRA member who once had a baby shower at a local gun
> range in Alaska. "It's the job of all of us at the NRA and its allies to
> stop them in their tracks."
>
> Gun enthusiasts have trumpeted fears that their rights would erode under a
> Democrat-led White House and Congress, but President Barack Obama has
> largely been silent on issues such as reviving an assault weapons ban or
> strengthening background checks at gun shows. Obama also signed a law
> allowing people to carry loaded guns in national parks.
>
> Palin, the GOP's 2008 vice presidential nominee, also praised tea party
> activism during an appearance in Charlotte, and scoffed at suggestions that
> the movement had roots in violence, racism or rednecks before adding: "I
> don't really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you the
> truth."
>
> She proceeded to read several redneck jokes off her phone and talked about
> how she could relate to some of them.
>
> During an event earlier Friday in Washington sponsored by an anti-abortion
> group, she challenged Republican women to help the GOP "take this country
> back" and elect anti-abortion lawmakers. She praised female leaders of the tea
> party movement and invoked the 2008 acceptance speech where she compared
> herself to a pit bull.
>
> "You don't want to mess with moms who are rising up," Palin said at the Susan
> B. Anthony List event. "If you thought pit bulls were tough, you don't
> want to mess with mama grizzlies."
>
> Palin said she understood how some women might consider abortion, citing
> her own experiences as the mother of a child with Down syndrome and the
> parent of an unwed teen mother. Last year, Palin said that "for a fleeting
> moment" she considered having an abortion when she learned of her son Trig's
> prognosis.
>
> But she said Friday that abortion is morally wrong and women should carry a
> fetus to term.
>
> "It may not be the easiest path, but it's always the right path," she said.
>
> She said Obama is "the most pro-abortion president ever to occupy the White
> House" and asserted that the health care law would fund abortions.
>
> In