[scifinoir2] Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman
Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwomanhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/superhero-wedding-batman-marries-wonderwoman [image: Batman wedding5 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Need a unique idea for your wedding ceremony? why don’t you try this superhero wedding themes? Neil Vaughan and Sharon, they married as Batman and Wonderwoman, 46-year-old Neil Vaughan, and 40-year-old Sharon are not the most traditional people in England, so they decided to get married as their favorite superheroes, and asked their attending friends to follow their example. Neil wanted to be Batman ever since he was a child, and his wife said she always dreamed of being Wonder Woman. They spent under 300 pounds on costumes, to finally fulfill their dreams to held the Superhero themed Wedding Ceremony. There’s so many Famous Superhero attend their wedding ceremony such as Ironman, Robin, Hulk, Wolverine, supergirls,superman and also Magi pink from Magiranger or Pink Mystic Force ranger. It seems that their wedding reminds me to the world’s biggest superhero gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering . Robin, Batman’s faithful sidekick, was his best man on the big day, while the adorable Powerpuff Girls were bridesmaids. Well Congratulations for Neil Vaughan and Sharon Here’s another picture of *Batman and Wonderwoman Wedding* [image: Batman wedding Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] [image: Batman wedding7 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Related Posts : - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering World's Largest Superhero Gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes Zombie Wedding Theme | Most Horrifying Wedding Themeshttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever Most Bizarre Wedding Photography Everhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Net Neutrality Protesters Call for Google to Stand Tall
Mr Worf, I sincerely hope that you're right, and that Google has the cojones to keep up the fight once they're inside. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think that Google is using the approach of changing the system from the inside. Google has their hands in so many pies that it will soon make M$ look like wannbes. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: I personally expect results roughly after Jesus makes it back this way... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/net-neutrality-google-protest/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman
... geeky. [?][?][?][?] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwomanhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/superhero-wedding-batman-marries-wonderwoman [image: Batman wedding5 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Need a unique idea for your wedding ceremony? why don’t you try this superhero wedding themes? Neil Vaughan and Sharon, they married as Batman and Wonderwoman, 46-year-old Neil Vaughan, and 40-year-old Sharon are not the most traditional people in England, so they decided to get married as their favorite superheroes, and asked their attending friends to follow their example. Neil wanted to be Batman ever since he was a child, and his wife said she always dreamed of being Wonder Woman. They spent under 300 pounds on costumes, to finally fulfill their dreams to held the Superhero themed Wedding Ceremony. There’s so many Famous Superhero attend their wedding ceremony such as Ironman, Robin, Hulk, Wolverine, supergirls,superman and also Magi pink from Magiranger or Pink Mystic Force ranger. It seems that their wedding reminds me to the world’s biggest superhero gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering . Robin, Batman’s faithful sidekick, was his best man on the big day, while the adorable Powerpuff Girls were bridesmaids. Well Congratulations for Neil Vaughan and Sharon Here’s another picture of *Batman and Wonderwoman Wedding* [image: Batman wedding Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] [image: Batman wedding7 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Related Posts : - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering World's Largest Superhero Gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes Zombie Wedding Theme | Most Horrifying Wedding Themeshttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever Most Bizarre Wedding Photography Everhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 360.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
Bosco, I was actually able to let Jar Jar slide as I did the Confederacy people (both fairly blatant stereotyping). My aww, F*CK NAW! moment was when they explained the secret of the Force as a bug in one's bloodstream. As I left the theater, I recall calling out to the manager, I want my money back. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of it. B --- On *Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:48 PM Bosco, I'm sending this to a long-time SW fan, to get a reaction to this. I'll let you know what it is. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction legacy in history. Bosco --- On *Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.nethttp://mc/compose?to=keithbjohn...@comcast.net * wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.nethttp://mc/compose?to=keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The *Star Wars* Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other than George Lucas http://stars.ign.com/objects/912/912168.htmlannounced the films were coming to the format. I wish I could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, which was moderated by Jon Stewarthttp://stars.ign.com/objects/912/912560.html. Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film itself. In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamillhttp://stars.ign.com/objects/915/915965.htmlthen joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original entrance in *Return of the Jedi*. Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader http://stars.ign.com/objects/919/919548.html arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of *Return of the Jedi*. We see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la *Empire Strikes Back*. As Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It is the only way. As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, insinuating
Re: [scifinoir2] Avengers movie trailer - Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes
Meh. Don't know if I'll be watching it, after that. Looks like mid-90s animation. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the newest Avengers movie trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDygpGOuyYplaynext=1videos=uExdOr4ejt0feature=sub (IMO - Too much Disney) -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Whatever happened to???? Game
Truth there, Angela. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:15 PM, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.comwrote: Haiti. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: The other night I was thinking about some of the things that were hot items in the news but today you cannot find anything on them no matter where you look. For example, stories about fuel cells were really hot in 2008/2009. When was the last time that you saw a story on it? This can be a person, place or thing. Can you come up with more? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness =
Yes, last week. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Did you install the latest flash update? On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: The video's still loading in for me. Computer's having a tough month. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Did you watch the video? I was pleasantly surprised that the woman is African American. I'm sure that in a few years they will figure out how to do a download from the mind to computer. (Like using the Braincap - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-computer_interface ) They already posses the technology to actually read thoughts and make a visual representation. (they have done it with animals. Its just a matter of a bit more time to make the leap to humans.) On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Someone out there... please tell me to put down the Beretta I'm pointing at my screen right now. Mind you, I fully expect that such will happen, far sooner than we think (some rich, dying billionaire out there, wanting to cheat the Grim Reaper). That could be trouble all its own. A consciousness, able to interact with the Internet directly? To quote Bill Paxton from Aliens -- Game over, man. Any bad press? Gone. Any corporate takeover? Done so fast it would take days to sort it all out. If the guy likes porn? YouTube starts churning it out, whether it likes to or not. Anyone who'd like to use those ideas, feel free. Just let me know when they hit print, because I want to read them. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = The quest for artificial intelligence has led mankind to some pretty strange places, but the Terasem Movementhttp://www.terasemcentral.org/index.htmlhas just taken it to a decidedly creepy new level. The non-profit agency is dedicated to educating the public about the necessity of extending life through cyber-consciousness. In other words, they believe that the human essence can be extended beyond life with the use of robots. They created this vaguely creepy robot called Bina48. The bot is the first privately-funded artificial intelligence robot of its type, and it’s modeled on a real woman named Bina Rothblatt. The real Bina spent many hours loading information into the head of Bina48, giving “her” a personality and the ability to converse with visitors. The above video documents Bina48′s interview with a New York Times reporter; it’s apparent that the technology can use a little refinement before we can trust it to store our consciousness after we die. But if its heartbreaking desires to have its own life, work in the garden and take over the world are any indication, we’d better start welcoming our new artificially intelligent overlords now. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvcQCJpZJH8feature=player_embedded#! -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship
I saw the same program, Keith, and a few others, famously including a segment of Heavy Metal on the History Channel. The pilot they interviewed was talking up the ship so lovingly that I recall thinking that he and it needed to get a room together somewhere. A few months later, as I was logging out of one of my Warmmail accounts, a story on the MSN homepage drew my eye. Pilot Stuck in Cockpit The F-22's canopy had a problem deploying (which later records showed to be a fairly endemic issue throughout the F-22 fleet), and the pilot inside, stuck for over two hours, was wearing a murderous look on his face. As I chuckled, I noted his name. It was the same pilot from the Heavy Metal segment. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I only know about the F-22 through the PBS special that details the competition between Lockheed and Boeing for that Joint Strikeforce Fighter. The program's pretty cool, and the plane seemed impressed. Give us the skinny, please... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 12:19:48 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship Mr Worf, you know what the best job on the planet is right now? A Lockheed-Martin lobbyist. They manage to wrangle corporate welfare for their company without fail, no matter how magnificently L-M's projects may fail. (I refer you all to the F-22 debacle, because it was as hush-hush as this seems to be.) On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/ Read more: http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/#ixzz0wftfWvom Home http://realitypod.com/ » Military Techhttp://realitypod.com/category/science_tech/military/, Science Tech http://realitypod.com/category/science_tech/ » US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship Posted by admin http://realitypod.com/author/admin/ on May 2nd, 2010 // 3 Comments http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/#comments Advertise Herehttp://buysellads.com/buy/detail/26294/zone/1250567?utm_source=site_26294_zone_1250567utm_medium=websiteutm_campaign=adhere http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/skunk-works/Lockheed Martin Advanced Development Projects is making perhaps the first realistic tests of a hybrid airship–a concept that dates back many decades but that is just now being tried at a significant scale. The Skunk Works had secretly built the craft and hoped for a quiet first flight at its Palmdale, Calif., facility, but a few passers-by noticed the strange object in the sky. The Defense Dept. is showing interest in two categories of airships–those that can carry large cargo at low altitude, exemplified by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) Walrus program, and those that can operate in high-altitude low-wind conditions and remain on station for long periods of time. The configuration of the Skunks Works ship indicates it is the former–a hybrid heavy-load carrier. The interest is across the services and the notional applications are diverse, ranging from logistics–delivery of an integrated fighting unit within theater, for example–to sensor, communications and even laser-weapon relay platforms. But airships aren’t there yet. Major unresolved issues could derail the airship dream, such as their traditional delicate ground handling, and possibly prohibitive economics and vulnerability. These issues have been debated endlessly on paper, and now Lockheed Martin, a prime airship proponent, is investing to seek real answers. Recentlys! U.S. Army LEMV Program ordered this 21-day endurance, 20K Altitude Hybrid LTA for AFPAK: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportuni…https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunitymode=formid=8a9576adda671991e001a322c98a6a44tab=coretabmode=listcck=1au=ck= A hybrid airship derives most of its lift by being filled with a lighter-than-air gas such as helium. Overall, it is heavier than air and gains the final 20% or so of lift by flying like an aircraft, but with slow takeoff and landing speeds that allow operations from short unprepared strips. The Skunk Works made the first flight of its “P-791″ testbed on Jan. 31 at its facility on the Palmdale Air Force Plant 42 airport. The manned flight was about a 5-min. circuit around the airport in the morning and appeared to be successful. The company did not announce or want to discuss the flight. The P-791 is not part of a government contract, but rather an independent research and development project by the Skunk Works to better understand airship capabilities and technologies, such as materials, a company official says. However, it may also be a quarter-scale prototype of a heavy-lifter. TO GAIN MORE SPAN TO ACT LIKE a wing, the P-791 is three
Re: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power
Wow. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power Anyone who’s been to an airport knows that airports are some of the noisiest places on Earth. The constant noise of the airplanes flying overhead, taxiing, taking off and landing can be almost deafening – but some good might one day come of it. This concept – the Green Noise http://www.yankodesign.com/2010/01/22/noise-is-cool-for-power/converter – from designer Hung-Uei Jou would harvest noise from airports to provide the power for runway lights. Runway lights, of course, use a large amount of electricity since they need to be left on for long periods of time. Finding an alternative source of energy to lighten the electricity load on the grid would not only save money, but help to cut down on pollution from power plants. A small change, maybe, but a positive one nonetheless. Depending on the technical aspect, it may be possible to use this type of technology in other noisy places: city centers, sporting events, or even nightclubs. There aren’t any technical details about how the design would work, but it’s possible that the round pods on the ground would operate on piezoelectricity. When the sound waves vibrate the collection pods, the interior materials would produce small amounts of electricity. The tripod that supports the collection unit lifts it off of the ground enough to make it simple for airport techs to perform maintenance on the units and change the lights when they burn out. A screen on the side of each unit gives vital information about the unit’s status, such as how much of a charge it has remaining. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] James Cameron Thinks The Hurt Locker Would Have Been Better in 3D
Exactly. I think he's trying to kill the movie's appeal, personally. If it were 3D-ed, it would look like a massive joke. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Cameron must be high. There's no way that would have worked in 3d. It would have taken away from the reality of the situations in the movie. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Sounds like a massive case of sour grapes, IMO... http://www.collider.com/2010/08/14/james-cameron-the-hurt-locker-3d-kathryn-bigelow-avatar/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Battle: Los Angeles trailer
Did you catch the posters on the page, implying that such had happened before in the framework of the movie? On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: We'll never know the truth behind this. There's been a few movies that have used the incident as a catalyst. Anyone remember 1942 starring John Belushi? I would love to see this movie! On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Looks cool... http://battlelosangeles.movie-trailer.com/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power
That is something right out of the future. Mix it with solar / wind and you have yourself a party. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Wow. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power Anyone who’s been to an airport knows that airports are some of the noisiest places on Earth. The constant noise of the airplanes flying overhead, taxiing, taking off and landing can be almost deafening – but some good might one day come of it. This concept – the Green Noise http://www.yankodesign.com/2010/01/22/noise-is-cool-for-power/converter – from designer Hung-Uei Jou would harvest noise from airports to provide the power for runway lights. Runway lights, of course, use a large amount of electricity since they need to be left on for long periods of time. Finding an alternative source of energy to lighten the electricity load on the grid would not only save money, but help to cut down on pollution from power plants. A small change, maybe, but a positive one nonetheless. Depending on the technical aspect, it may be possible to use this type of technology in other noisy places: city centers, sporting events, or even nightclubs. There aren’t any technical details about how the design would work, but it’s possible that the round pods on the ground would operate on piezoelectricity. When the sound waves vibrate the collection pods, the interior materials would produce small amounts of electricity. The tripod that supports the collection unit lifts it off of the ground enough to make it simple for airport techs to perform maintenance on the units and change the lights when they burn out. A screen on the side of each unit gives vital information about the unit’s status, such as how much of a charge it has remaining. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Avengers movie trailer - Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes
Exactly. It reminded me of the toons that were the last of Hanna Barbera / Funimation back in the late 80s. Like the Spiderman and friends. What pushed it over the edge was the power pop rock band which is about as generic as stereotypical 80s rap music at this point. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Meh. Don't know if I'll be watching it, after that. Looks like mid-90s animation. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Here is the newest Avengers movie trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDygpGOuyYplaynext=1videos=uExdOr4ejt0feature=sub (IMO - Too much Disney) -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman
That was probably a lot of fun. I would love to see a ninja or pirate themed wedding. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: ... geeky. [?][?][?][?] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwomanhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/superhero-wedding-batman-marries-wonderwoman [image: Batman wedding5 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Need a unique idea for your wedding ceremony? why don’t you try this superhero wedding themes? Neil Vaughan and Sharon, they married as Batman and Wonderwoman, 46-year-old Neil Vaughan, and 40-year-old Sharon are not the most traditional people in England, so they decided to get married as their favorite superheroes, and asked their attending friends to follow their example. Neil wanted to be Batman ever since he was a child, and his wife said she always dreamed of being Wonder Woman. They spent under 300 pounds on costumes, to finally fulfill their dreams to held the Superhero themed Wedding Ceremony. There’s so many Famous Superhero attend their wedding ceremony such as Ironman, Robin, Hulk, Wolverine, supergirls,superman and also Magi pink from Magiranger or Pink Mystic Force ranger. It seems that their wedding reminds me to the world’s biggest superhero gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering . Robin, Batman’s faithful sidekick, was his best man on the big day, while the adorable Powerpuff Girls were bridesmaids. Well Congratulations for Neil Vaughan and Sharon Here’s another picture of *Batman and Wonderwoman Wedding* [image: Batman wedding Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] [image: Batman wedding7 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Related Posts : - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering World's Largest Superhero Gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes Zombie Wedding Theme | Most Horrifying Wedding Themeshttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever Most Bizarre Wedding Photography Everhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 360.gif
[scifinoir2] Monty Python's 40th anniversary - Not the Messiah: He's a Very Naughty Boy
How do you know that you are an uber-geek? When you can recite Monty Python lines by heart Last year, Monty celebrated its 40th anniversary by putting on a live performance at the Albert Hall in London.The performance featured the entire crew plus a live orchestra and additional actors and performers. Its as geeky as you can ever want to get. To check out the trailer go to: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1616543/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Net Neutrality Protesters Call for Google to Stand Tall
They were trying to build a wind farm in the central valley and they were going to pay for everything. The cities around the farm would get a discount on power, but the state has been blocking the project for about 4 years now. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I sincerely hope that you're right, and that Google has the cojones to keep up the fight once they're inside. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think that Google is using the approach of changing the system from the inside. Google has their hands in so many pies that it will soon make M$ look like wannbes. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: I personally expect results roughly after Jesus makes it back this way... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/net-neutrality-google-protest/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Avengers movie trailer - Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes
Definately aimed at kids and tweens. From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:05:19 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Avengers movie trailer - Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes Meh. Don't know if I'll be watching it, after that. Looks like mid-90s animation. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the newest Avengers movie trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDygpGOuyYplaynext=1videos=uExdOr4ejt0feature=sub (IMO - Too much Disney) -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be
You can't see 3D in movies? Why is that? I assume you do have stereoscopic vision in everyday real life? What about the old ViewMaster? Does that work for your 3D vision? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be rave, abso-frelling-lutely NONE. I'm on the record as saying that I'd rather have effects as background to telling the story, not as a crutch. Movies such as Avatar, which are dependent on the effect, are a different animal, in my eyes. Add in the fact that my brain doesn't process 3D effects... On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Since the success of Avatar there have been a plethora of 3-D movies - many of which had no business being 3-D movies. This brought up the question of 2-D movies that should have been 3-D movies. For instance: Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World is a 2-D movie that would probably be enhanced by 3-D effects. Are there any others? ~rave? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power
Brilliant, and one of those why didn't anyone think of that before ideas! Reading this, I was for some reason put in mind of the Marvel hero Dazzler, who absorbs all sounds, which she then transduces into light as varied as strobe efffects, holograms, or actual laser beams. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:06:27 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power Anyone who’s been to an airport knows that airports are some of the noisiest places on Earth. The constant noise of the airplanes flying overhead, taxiing, taking off and landing can be almost deafening – but some good might one day come of it. This concept – the Green Noise converter – from designer Hung-Uei Jou would harvest noise from airports to provide the power for runway lights. Runway lights, of course, use a large amount of electricity since they need to be left on for long periods of time. Finding an alternative source of energy to lighten the electricity load on the grid would not only save money, but help to cut down on pollution from power plants. A small change, maybe, but a positive one nonetheless. Depending on the technical aspect, it may be possible to use this type of technology in other noisy places: city centers, sporting events, or even nightclubs. There aren’t any technical details about how the design would work, but it’s possible that the round pods on the ground would operate on piezoelectricity. When the sound waves vibrate the collection pods, the interior materials would produce small amounts of electricity. The tripod that supports the collection unit lifts it off of the ground enough to make it simple for airport techs to perform maintenance on the units and change the lights when they burn out. A screen on the side of each unit gives vital information about the unit’s status, such as how much of a charge it has remaining. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
I can understand that, certainly. I'm going to read that article in just a bit. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:30:50 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray Keith, I posted an article about an hour ago, an interview with Gary Kurtz, who worked with Messr Lucas on the first SW movies. I believe that I referred to Lucas as a Mercenary Bastich, First Class. The promise of more deleted scenes (which I recall as being a lure he used back in '97 when he churned out the Special Editions) alone is enough to put me off. Add in the fact that I don't own a Blu-ray, and it equals me keeping my ducats. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Why is that? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:44:52 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray Even if I had the money, Keith, I wouldn't sully my wallet. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, which was moderated by Jon Stewart . Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film itself. In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It is the only way. As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down to Luke's hands, and we see that he is using a tool to complete work on his new lightsaber. Satisfied, he puts the tool down and holds the lightsaber hilt up, igniting it – in what would have been the first reveal of the green blade. We cut to a shot from the side and see Luke is sitting inside a cave on Tatooine, with C-3P0 standing outside, waiting for him – no doubt to receive his orders to head to Jabba the Hutt. That was it for the scene, but the crowd erupted in cheers at what was indeed a very cool new moment, from films we are all quite familiar with. The panel ended with one more surprise guest – Carrie Fisher . Alas, there were no other deleted scenes shown to us today, but Fisher cracked to Lucas, Did you put the nude scenes back in? She then turned to the audience and deadpanned, There was a huge me and Jabba porn scene. That's what got me into drugs. No further details were given on the Blu-rays as yet, which leave plenty to speculate about. It's safe to say from the Return of the Jedi scene being shown that this release will include all of the original trilogy, but while it seems likely the answer is yes, there was nothing definitive stated about the prequels being released simultaneously. And no, we didn't get any info on whether the original, pre-Special
Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness =
Yeah, but that's not it for me. It's that they still don't look and act quite all the way real, and that last few percentage points can be creepy. The Uncanny Valley, again. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:47:50 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = They have several that are used as receptionists in Japan. I think that the difference between here and Japan is that they weren't bombarded with psycho robot movies for the last 60 years. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: The Uncanny Valley strikes again. Really creepy-looking, and no offense against the lady that's the model, but when I saw it, I honestly thought it was a dude in a wig. I think that we need to be careful trying to unleash these almost-but-not-quite-human robots on the populace. That creepiness factor might make the more sadistic and violent elements among us get perverse pleasure in attacking the automatons. Fear often breeds violence, you know, and i can see a sick market for people building such robots expressly for the purpose of letting people maim and destroy them. in fact, that particular angle's been the topic of innumerable scifi stories over the years... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 4:53:55 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = Someone out there... please tell me to put down the Beretta I'm pointing at my screen right now. Mind you, I fully expect that such will happen, far sooner than we think (some rich, dying billionaire out there, wanting to cheat the Grim Reaper). That could be trouble all its own. A consciousness, able to interact with the Internet directly? To quote Bill Paxton from Aliens -- Game over, man. Any bad press? Gone. Any corporate takeover? Done so fast it would take days to sort it all out. If the guy likes porn? YouTube starts churning it out, whether it likes to or not. Anyone who'd like to use those ideas, feel free. Just let me know when they hit print, because I want to read them. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = The quest for artificial intelligence has led mankind to some pretty strange places, but the Terasem Movement has just taken it to a decidedly creepy new level. The non-profit agency is dedicated to educating the public about the necessity of extending life through cyber-consciousness. In other words, they believe that the human essence can be extended beyond life with the use of robots. They created this vaguely creepy robot called Bina48. The bot is the first privately-funded artificial intelligence robot of its type, and it’s modeled on a real woman named Bina Rothblatt. The real Bina spent many hours loading information into the head of Bina48, giving “her” a personality and the ability to converse with visitors. The above video documents Bina48′s interview with a New York Times reporter; it’s apparent that the technology can use a little refinement before we can trust it to store our consciousness after we die. But if its heartbreaking desires to have its own life, work in the garden and take over the world are any indication, we’d better start welcoming our new artificially intelligent overlords now. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvcQCJpZJH8feature=player_embedded# ! -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
Yeah, A New Hope and Empire are easily a cut above the others. Both feel more like real movies. They're not as full of kiddie stuff or gimmicks, the stories are better in each. Those two films really feel like war movies for adults. Return of the Jedi is good, but a bit less in story and execution. Still, very good. The prequels are all lower quality. The first two suck, the third one at least is adult again, with lots of killing (not just robots) but the quality is still below the initially released three flicks. - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:31:41 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray We all know that Lucas is a slightly above average screenwriter but the series is perfect as it is. Empirre Strikes Back is my #2 favorite movie ever. From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 5:28:38 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray what about The Empire Strikes Back? That was a very good movie, and of course, had a completely different set of people behind the scenes creatively. A New Hope wasn't too bad, either. - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:19:42 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction legacy in history. Bosco --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, which was moderated by Jon Stewart . Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film itself. In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It is the only way. As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down to Luke's hands, and we see that he is using a tool to complete work on his new lightsaber. Satisfied, he puts the tool down and holds the lightsaber hilt up, igniting it – in what would have been the first reveal of the green blade. We cut to a shot from the side and see Luke is sitting inside a cave on Tatooine, with C-3P0 standing outside,
Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
This was a really well written little e-mail. You managed to convey your feelings very vividly. I agree and felt the same way. Unlike Kurtz, i think prequels can be assume ideas. I love backstories, and like you, thought the backstory of the Star Wars universe would be great. And like you, I sat in the theatre and was stunned at what I saw. I hated that the entire first movie was wasted on Baby Vader, especially because the young actor was horrible! That Pod race--WTF? Midchlorians??? Jar Jar was the least of my issues. And note how with the first prequel movie, Lucas spent most of the film killing legions of robots, but very view living beings died. it all showed how he'd moved from films that kids and families could enjoy, but that still felt adult, to really kiddie level films, that reminded me of nothing so much as cartoons like G.I. Joe, where no one died. The body count went up in Revenge of the Sith, but by then so much damage had been done... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:44:00 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of it. B --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:48 PM Bosco, I'm sending this to a long-time SW fan, to get a reaction to this. I'll let you know what it is. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction legacy in history. Bosco --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, which was moderated by Jon Stewart . Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film itself. In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of
Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
The best Star Wars product out in recent years was the animated Clone Wars shorts done by Gendy Tartokovsky. those were amazing, and showed the Jedi and Sith in ways i'd never gotten to satisfaction by Lucas' movies. For example, i always felt the Jedi were never really shown as all the powerful--they just tended to jump around a bit and pull stuff out of peoples' hands with the Force. But Gendy showed some real power. there's one where Mace Windu is surrounded by a legion of robots, and goes freakin' Bruce Lee! He runs at superspeed, literally punches through the robots' metal bodies with his bare fists, sweep away dozens of robots at a time with a Force Wave that scatters them like leaves in a wind, and jumps like the Hulk. Now that's what I'm talking about! The Clone Wars CGI series on Cartoon Network is actually very good too. Amazingly good, in fact. - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:31:41 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray We all know that Lucas is a slightly above average screenwriter but the series is perfect as it is. Empirre Strikes Back is my #2 favorite movie ever. From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 5:28:38 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray what about The Empire Strikes Back? That was a very good movie, and of course, had a completely different set of people behind the scenes creatively. A New Hope wasn't too bad, either. - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:19:42 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction legacy in history. Bosco --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, which was moderated by Jon Stewart . Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film itself. In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It is the only way. As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down
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Does the PS3 have all the bells and whistles of Blu-Ray? Yeah, I can see not wanting to replace perfectly good DVDs with BR disks. i think for a lot of people, the next move will probably be to just do digital downloads of movies that can be shown from a PC onto a flatscreen TV. - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:37:10 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I love the Blu ray function and trust me there is a difference , but again I'm not retooling my entire collection to blu-ray. From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 2:08:01 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I don't have a PS3. A Genesis, SNES, and PS2, but no PS3. How do you like it as a Blu-Ray player? Have all the firmware upgrades allowed it to do all the latest stuff that Blu-Ray allows? - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:40:28 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I use my PS3 as a blu-ray player and I'll get it. But not in one swoop. I'll get Empire Strikes Back first. From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:47:35 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, which was moderated by Jon Stewart . Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film itself. In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It is the only way. As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down to Luke's hands, and we see that he is using a tool to complete work on his new lightsaber. Satisfied, he puts the tool down and holds the lightsaber hilt up, igniting it – in what would have been the first reveal of the green blade. We cut to a shot from the side and see Luke is sitting inside a cave on Tatooine, with C-3P0 standing outside, waiting for him – no doubt to receive his orders to head to Jabba the Hutt. That was it for the scene, but the crowd erupted in cheers at what was indeed a very cool new moment, from films we are all quite familiar with. The panel ended with one more surprise guest – Carrie Fisher . Alas, there were no other deleted scenes shown to us today, but Fisher cracked to Lucas, Did you put the nude scenes back in? She then turned to the audience and deadpanned, There was a huge me and Jabba porn scene. That's what got me into drugs. No further details were given on the Blu-rays as yet, which leave plenty to speculate about. It's
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Thanks. I try. I love writing. Too bad there's no money in it and loads and loads of soul wrenching work. Jar Jar wasn't the big issue for me, I just recall him being the first sign that it was time to insert the fork in the corpse of the legacy. The list of things that is wrong actually starts with Return of the Jedi and starts with the ewoks. It goes downhill from there. Revenge of the Sith was for me the deepest insult. The bad acting, the crappy direction, the totally unbelievable final conversion from Anakin to Vader with all it's sophomoric character motivation was a full and total betrayal. Total bummer. I spend a lot of time wishing someone would do it better. I'll bet it gets done. I hope in my life time. The fact that hollywood is stuck in recycle mode actual gives me hope for this one. --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 9:47 AM This was a really well written little e-mail. You managed to convey your feelings very vividly. I agree and felt the same way. Unlike Kurtz, i think prequels can be assume ideas. I love backstories, and like you, thought the backstory of the Star Wars universe would be great. And like you, I sat in the theatre and was stunned at what I saw. I hated that the entire first movie was wasted on Baby Vader, especially because the young actor was horrible! That Pod race--WTF? Midchlorians??? Jar Jar was the least of my issues. And note how with the first prequel movie, Lucas spent most of the film killing legions of robots, but very view living beings died. it all showed how he'd moved from films that kids and families could enjoy, but that still felt adult, to really kiddie level films, that reminded me of nothing so much as cartoons like G.I. Joe, where no one died. The body count went up in Revenge of the Sith, but by then so much damage had been done... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:44:00 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of it. B --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:48 PM Bosco, I'm sending this to a long-time SW fan, to get a reaction to this. I'll let you know what it is. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction legacy in history. Bosco --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas
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Amen! the Midchlorians had me gasping and laughing in horror, amusement ,and disbelief in the theatre. And more, what showed that Lucas had completely lost any understanding of the world he created was what I read in an interview with him. He was discussing Vader's fate, and said that what frustrated the Emperor was that Vader was no longer the uber powerful weapon of destruction he'd envisioned. he said that Anakin went from being potentially way more powerful than the Emperor to significantly less so, because of his injuries. Lucas actually said that because Anakin had lost his legs and hand, his command of the Force was lessened! I think he felt that the loss of body parts reduced the amount of available space for the Midchlorians, and the reduced bugs meant reduced powers. Can you believe that? He actually equated command of the Force with the state of one's physical body. That belies the standard held beliefs of powers of the mind/soul as being independent of the body, as well as his own mythos, where small people like yoda said that physical makeup didn't matter. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:01:14 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray Bosco, I was actually able to let Jar Jar slide as I did the Confederacy people (both fairly blatant stereotyping). My aww, F*CK NAW! moment was when they explained the secret of the Force as a bug in one's bloodstream. As I left the theater, I recall calling out to the manager, I want my money back. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of it. B --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:48 PM Bosco, I'm sending this to a long-time SW fan, to get a reaction to this. I'll let you know what it is. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com wrote: The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction legacy in history. Bosco --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) might have? * http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, which was moderated by Jon Stewart . Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes [material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet.
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Really?! I didn't know that. I was so impressed with that plane's hovering ability and maneuverability. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:12:54 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship I saw the same program, Keith, and a few others, famously including a segment of Heavy Metal on the History Channel. The pilot they interviewed was talking up the ship so lovingly that I recall thinking that he and it needed to get a room together somewhere. A few months later, as I was logging out of one of my Warmmail accounts, a story on the MSN homepage drew my eye. Pilot Stuck in Cockpit The F-22's canopy had a problem deploying (which later records showed to be a fairly endemic issue throughout the F-22 fleet), and the pilot inside, stuck for over two hours, was wearing a murderous look on his face. As I chuckled, I noted his name. It was the same pilot from the Heavy Metal segment. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I only know about the F-22 through the PBS special that details the competition between Lockheed and Boeing for that Joint Strikeforce Fighter. The program's pretty cool, and the plane seemed impressed. Give us the skinny, please... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 12:19:48 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship Mr Worf, you know what the best job on the planet is right now? A Lockheed-Martin lobbyist. They manage to wrangle corporate welfare for their company without fail, no matter how magnificently L-M's projects may fail. (I refer you all to the F-22 debacle, because it was as hush-hush as this seems to be.) On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/ Read more: http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/#ixzz0wftfWvom Home » Military Tech , Science Tech » US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship Posted by admin on May 2nd, 2010 // 3 Comments Advertise Here Lockheed Martin Advanced Development Projects is making perhaps the first realistic tests of a hybrid airship–a concept that dates back many decades but that is just now being tried at a significant scale. The Skunk Works had secretly built the craft and hoped for a quiet first flight at its Palmdale, Calif., facility, but a few passers-by noticed the strange object in the sky. The Defense Dept. is showing interest in two categories of airships–those that can carry large cargo at low altitude, exemplified by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) Walrus program, and those that can operate in high-altitude low-wind conditions and remain on station for long periods of time. The configuration of the Skunks Works ship indicates it is the former–a hybrid heavy-load carrier. The interest is across the services and the notional applications are diverse, ranging from logistics–delivery of an integrated fighting unit within theater, for example–to sensor, communications and even laser-weapon relay platforms. But airships aren’t there yet. Major unresolved issues could derail the airship dream, such as their traditional delicate ground handling, and possibly prohibitive economics and vulnerability. These issues have been debated endlessly on paper, and now Lockheed Martin, a prime airship proponent, is investing to seek real answers. Recentlys! U.S. Army LEMV Program ordered this 21-day endurance, 20K Altitude Hybrid LTA for AFPAK: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportuni… A hybrid airship derives most of its lift by being filled with a lighter-than-air gas such as helium. Overall, it is heavier than air and gains the final 20% or so of lift by flying like an aircraft, but with slow takeoff and landing speeds that allow operations from short unprepared strips. The Skunk Works made the first flight of its “P-791″ testbed on Jan. 31 at its facility on the Palmdale Air Force Plant 42 airport. The manned flight was about a 5-min. circuit around the airport in the morning and appeared to be successful. The company did not announce or want to discuss the flight. The P-791 is not part of a government contract, but rather an independent research and development project by the Skunk Works to better understand airship capabilities and technologies, such as materials, a company official says. However, it may also be a quarter-scale prototype of a heavy-lifter. TO GAIN MORE SPAN TO ACT LIKE a wing, the P-791 is three pressurized lobes joined together. An observer of the first flight says it was about the size of three Fuji blimps blended together. The Fuji
Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
I agree. I too felt the shift with Return of the Jedi. I had issues with a lot in that movie. for one, had I written it, there's no way I'd have had Vader change so quickly. When he first takes Luke to the Emperor, he says he is your Master, my son, then after a hurt Luke is taken off, Vader wanders over to a railing and looks out into the night as if he feels bad! I remember in the theatre saying What the hell? Why is he so maudlin all of a sudden?. I kept thinking there had to have been prior interactions between Vader and Luke. Else, his quick influx of paternal attachment just made no sense. I also felt the climactic scene where Vader attacked the Emperor wasn't earned. Again, i just didn't see enough time given to justify that. I mean, Vader was a guy who had killed children, tried to kill his Master, and now all of a sudden he's sentimental?? And Sith, I completely agree. He watches Mace defeated, then drops to his knees and swears allegiance? Completely illogical! I still can't get how the Sith can so easily mask their true selves around the Jedi either. The Emperor and Anakin were all but twirling their moustaches, and Yoda, Mace, and the rest couldn't sense that at all? WTF? Let's not even start about how Anakin could have a suite apartment with his pregnant wife right under the Jedi's noses, nor how none of the medi-scans detected the presence of twins. And what's this dying of a broken heart crap? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:33:14 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray Thanks. I try. I love writing. Too bad there's no money in it and loads and loads of soul wrenching work. Jar Jar wasn't the big issue for me, I just recall him being the first sign that it was time to insert the fork in the corpse of the legacy. The list of things that is wrong actually starts with Return of the Jedi and starts with the ewoks. It goes downhill from there. Revenge of the Sith was for me the deepest insult. The bad acting, the crappy direction, the totally unbelievable final conversion from Anakin to Vader with all it's sophomoric character motivation was a full and total betrayal. Total bummer. I spend a lot of time wishing someone would do it better. I'll bet it gets done. I hope in my life time. The fact that hollywood is stuck in recycle mode actual gives me hope for this one. --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 9:47 AM This was a really well written little e-mail. You managed to convey your feelings very vividly. I agree and felt the same way. Unlike Kurtz, i think prequels can be assume ideas. I love backstories, and like you, thought the backstory of the Star Wars universe would be great. And like you, I sat in the theatre and was stunned at what I saw. I hated that the entire first movie was wasted on Baby Vader, especially because the young actor was horrible! That Pod race--WTF? Midchlorians??? Jar Jar was the least of my issues. And note how with the first prequel movie, Lucas spent most of the film killing legions of robots, but very view living beings died. it all showed how he'd moved from films that kids and families could enjoy, but that still felt adult, to really kiddie level films, that reminded me of nothing so much as cartoons like G.I. Joe, where no one died. The body count went up in Revenge of the Sith, but by then so much damage had been done... - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:44:00 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of it. B --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship
Did all of the good stuff wonderfully, Keith. It was the want of a $20 bolt that made it all a farce. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Really?! I didn't know that. I was so impressed with that plane's hovering ability and maneuverability. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:12:54 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship I saw the same program, Keith, and a few others, famously including a segment of Heavy Metal on the History Channel. The pilot they interviewed was talking up the ship so lovingly that I recall thinking that he and it needed to get a room together somewhere. A few months later, as I was logging out of one of my Warmmail accounts, a story on the MSN homepage drew my eye. Pilot Stuck in Cockpit The F-22's canopy had a problem deploying (which later records showed to be a fairly endemic issue throughout the F-22 fleet), and the pilot inside, stuck for over two hours, was wearing a murderous look on his face. As I chuckled, I noted his name. It was the same pilot from the Heavy Metal segment. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I only know about the F-22 through the PBS special that details the competition between Lockheed and Boeing for that Joint Strikeforce Fighter. The program's pretty cool, and the plane seemed impressed. Give us the skinny, please... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 12:19:48 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship Mr Worf, you know what the best job on the planet is right now? A Lockheed-Martin lobbyist. They manage to wrangle corporate welfare for their company without fail, no matter how magnificently L-M's projects may fail. (I refer you all to the F-22 debacle, because it was as hush-hush as this seems to be.) On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/ Read more: http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/#ixzz0wftfWvom Home http://realitypod.com/ » Military Techhttp://realitypod.com/category/science_tech/military/, Science Tech http://realitypod.com/category/science_tech/ » US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship Posted by admin http://realitypod.com/author/admin/ on May 2nd, 2010 // 3 Commentshttp://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/#comments Advertise Herehttp://buysellads.com/buy/detail/26294/zone/1250567?utm_source=site_26294_zone_1250567utm_medium=websiteutm_campaign=adhere http://realitypod.com/2010/05/mystery-plane-order/skunk-works/Lockheed Martin Advanced Development Projects is making perhaps the first realistic tests of a hybrid airship–a concept that dates back many decades but that is just now being tried at a significant scale. The Skunk Works had secretly built the craft and hoped for a quiet first flight at its Palmdale, Calif., facility, but a few passers-by noticed the strange object in the sky. The Defense Dept. is showing interest in two categories of airships–those that can carry large cargo at low altitude, exemplified by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) Walrus program, and those that can operate in high-altitude low-wind conditions and remain on station for long periods of time. The configuration of the Skunks Works ship indicates it is the former–a hybrid heavy-load carrier. The interest is across the services and the notional applications are diverse, ranging from logistics–delivery of an integrated fighting unit within theater, for example–to sensor, communications and even laser-weapon relay platforms. But airships aren’t there yet. Major unresolved issues could derail the airship dream, such as their traditional delicate ground handling, and possibly prohibitive economics and vulnerability. These issues have been debated endlessly on paper, and now Lockheed Martin, a prime airship proponent, is investing to seek real answers. Recentlys! U.S. Army LEMV Program ordered this 21-day endurance, 20K Altitude Hybrid LTA for AFPAK: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportuni…https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunitymode=formid=8a9576adda671991e001a322c98a6a44tab=coretabmode=listcck=1au=ck= A hybrid airship derives most of its lift by being filled with a lighter-than-air gas such as helium. Overall, it is heavier than air and gains the final 20% or so of lift by flying like an aircraft, but with slow takeoff and landing speeds that allow operations from short unprepared strips. The Skunk Works made the first flight of its “P-791″ testbed on Jan. 31 at its facility on the Palmdale Air Force Plant 42 airport.
Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be
Nope. Never did. I do have to say that my left eye is a bit weaker than the right, which might contribute to it. Got a ViewMaster for my eleventh birthday, and my mother fussed at me for weeks, because I played with it for about five minutes before realizing that it wasn't doing anything for me, and never touched it again until it was given to the Salvation Army. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: You can't see 3D in movies? Why is that? I assume you do have stereoscopic vision in everyday real life? What about the old ViewMaster? Does that work for your 3D vision? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be rave, abso-frelling-lutely NONE. I'm on the record as saying that I'd rather have effects as background to telling the story, not as a crutch. Movies such as Avatar, which are dependent on the effect, are a different animal, in my eyes. Add in the fact that my brain doesn't process 3D effects... On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Since the success of Avatar there have been a plethora of 3-D movies - many of which had no business being 3-D movies. This brought up the question of 2-D movies that should have been 3-D movies. For instance: Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World is a 2-D movie that would probably be enhanced by 3-D effects. Are there any others? ~rave? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Net Neutrality Protesters Call for Google to Stand Tall
This is Cali, right? A state famed for its rolling brown- and blackouts, passing on a chance at free energy... welcome to the Twilight Zone. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: They were trying to build a wind farm in the central valley and they were going to pay for everything. The cities around the farm would get a discount on power, but the state has been blocking the project for about 4 years now. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I sincerely hope that you're right, and that Google has the cojones to keep up the fight once they're inside. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: I think that Google is using the approach of changing the system from the inside. Google has their hands in so many pies that it will soon make M$ look like wannbes. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: I personally expect results roughly after Jesus makes it back this way... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/net-neutrality-google-protest/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Monty Python's 40th anniversary - Not the Messiah: He's a Very Naughty Boy
The performance was on IFC last month. Joy for the brain, it was. Carol Cleveland, one of the few ladies in the company, said that the cast really didn't have to learn the lines. The ones they forgot, the audience knew. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: How do you know that you are an uber-geek? When you can recite Monty Python lines by heart Last year, Monty celebrated its 40th anniversary by putting on a live performance at the Albert Hall in London.The performance featured the entire crew plus a live orchestra and additional actors and performers. Its as geeky as you can ever want to get. To check out the trailer go to: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1616543/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman
There's already been one... Pirate-themed weddinghttp://www.favorideas.com/wedding-themes/beach-themes/pirate-theme-wedding/(must... add... AR!) Couldn't find a ninja-themed wedding, but I did scare up one of ninjas crashing a pirate-themed weddinghttp://videosift.com/video/Ninjas-crash-a-Pirate-themed-wedding-Epic-Battle-ensues ...[?][?][?][?][?] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: That was probably a lot of fun. I would love to see a ninja or pirate themed wedding. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: ... geeky. [?][?][?][?] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwomanhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/superhero-wedding-batman-marries-wonderwoman [image: Batman wedding5 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Need a unique idea for your wedding ceremony? why don’t you try this superhero wedding themes? Neil Vaughan and Sharon, they married as Batman and Wonderwoman, 46-year-old Neil Vaughan, and 40-year-old Sharon are not the most traditional people in England, so they decided to get married as their favorite superheroes, and asked their attending friends to follow their example. Neil wanted to be Batman ever since he was a child, and his wife said she always dreamed of being Wonder Woman. They spent under 300 pounds on costumes, to finally fulfill their dreams to held the Superhero themed Wedding Ceremony. There’s so many Famous Superhero attend their wedding ceremony such as Ironman, Robin, Hulk, Wolverine, supergirls,superman and also Magi pink from Magiranger or Pink Mystic Force ranger. It seems that their wedding reminds me to the world’s biggest superhero gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering . Robin, Batman’s faithful sidekick, was his best man on the big day, while the adorable Powerpuff Girls were bridesmaids. Well Congratulations for Neil Vaughan and Sharon Here’s another picture of *Batman and Wonderwoman Wedding* [image: Batman wedding Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] [image: Batman wedding7 Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman] Related Posts : - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering World's Largest Superhero Gatheringhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/worlds-largest-superhero-gathering - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes Zombie Wedding Theme | Most Horrifying Wedding Themeshttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/zombie-wedding-theme-most-horrifying-wedding-themes - [image: Superhero Wedding | Batman Marries Wonderwoman]http://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever Most Bizarre Wedding Photography Everhttp://worldmustbecrazy.net/most-bizarre-wedding-photography-ever -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 327.gif360.gif
Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness =
I think that over time they will just be like any other tool or kiosk. Its not that they would replace humans but they do repetitive jobs the best. Would it be better if they were a hologram? On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, but that's not it for me. It's that they still don't look and act quite all the way real, and that last few percentage points can be creepy. The Uncanny Valley, again. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:47:50 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = They have several that are used as receptionists in Japan. I think that the difference between here and Japan is that they weren't bombarded with psycho robot movies for the last 60 years. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: The Uncanny Valley strikes again. Really creepy-looking, and no offense against the lady that's the model, but when I saw it, I honestly thought it was a dude in a wig. I think that we need to be careful trying to unleash these almost-but-not-quite-human robots on the populace. That creepiness factor might make the more sadistic and violent elements among us get perverse pleasure in attacking the automatons. Fear often breeds violence, you know, and i can see a sick market for people building such robots expressly for the purpose of letting people maim and destroy them. in fact, that particular angle's been the topic of innumerable scifi stories over the years... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 4:53:55 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = Someone out there... please tell me to put down the Beretta I'm pointing at my screen right now. Mind you, I fully expect that such will happen, far sooner than we think (some rich, dying billionaire out there, wanting to cheat the Grim Reaper). That could be trouble all its own. A consciousness, able to interact with the Internet directly? To quote Bill Paxton from Aliens -- Game over, man. Any bad press? Gone. Any corporate takeover? Done so fast it would take days to sort it all out. If the guy likes porn? YouTube starts churning it out, whether it likes to or not. Anyone who'd like to use those ideas, feel free. Just let me know when they hit print, because I want to read them. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = The quest for artificial intelligence has led mankind to some pretty strange places, but the Terasem Movementhttp://www.terasemcentral.org/index.htmlhas just taken it to a decidedly creepy new level. The non-profit agency is dedicated to educating the public about the necessity of extending life through cyber-consciousness. In other words, they believe that the human essence can be extended beyond life with the use of robots. They created this vaguely creepy robot called Bina48. The bot is the first privately-funded artificial intelligence robot of its type, and it’s modeled on a real woman named Bina Rothblatt. The real Bina spent many hours loading information into the head of Bina48, giving “her” a personality and the ability to converse with visitors. The above video documents Bina48′s interview with a New York Times reporter; it’s apparent that the technology can use a little refinement before we can trust it to store our consciousness after we die. But if its heartbreaking desires to have its own life, work in the garden and take over the world are any indication, we’d better start welcoming our new artificially intelligent overlords now. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvcQCJpZJH8feature=player_embedded#! -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Net Neutrality Protesters Call for Google to Stand Tall
The blackouts and brownouts had more to do with Enron's game playing than anything else. There wasn't a problem with power in this state until Enron's game playing started. Sure, the state was behind on building powerplants but not at the point where it would happen everyday during the summer for 2 years!?! On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: This is Cali, right? A state famed for its rolling brown- and blackouts, passing on a chance at free energy... welcome to the Twilight Zone. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: They were trying to build a wind farm in the central valley and they were going to pay for everything. The cities around the farm would get a discount on power, but the state has been blocking the project for about 4 years now. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I sincerely hope that you're right, and that Google has the cojones to keep up the fight once they're inside. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: I think that Google is using the approach of changing the system from the inside. Google has their hands in so many pies that it will soon make M$ look like wannbes. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: I personally expect results roughly after Jesus makes it back this way... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/net-neutrality-google-protest/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be
The way to test is by holding two identical objects out in front of you with one object directly behind the other. If it looks like just one object your brain is not processing the imagery correctly. One of the people that they talked to on tv said that when it was snowing it looked like a random white sheet was falling down. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Nope. Never did. I do have to say that my left eye is a bit weaker than the right, which might contribute to it. Got a ViewMaster for my eleventh birthday, and my mother fussed at me for weeks, because I played with it for about five minutes before realizing that it wasn't doing anything for me, and never touched it again until it was given to the Salvation Army. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: You can't see 3D in movies? Why is that? I assume you do have stereoscopic vision in everyday real life? What about the old ViewMaster? Does that work for your 3D vision? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be rave, abso-frelling-lutely NONE. I'm on the record as saying that I'd rather have effects as background to telling the story, not as a crutch. Movies such as Avatar, which are dependent on the effect, are a different animal, in my eyes. Add in the fact that my brain doesn't process 3D effects... On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Since the success of Avatar there have been a plethora of 3-D movies - many of which had no business being 3-D movies. This brought up the question of 2-D movies that should have been 3-D movies. For instance: Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World is a 2-D movie that would probably be enhanced by 3-D effects. Are there any others? ~rave? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power
This is one of those technologies that they should have came up with 75 years ago. I'm sure that other people thought of the idea but just didn't pursue the idea or didn't have the funding. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Brilliant, and one of those why didn't anyone think of that before ideas! Reading this, I was for some reason put in mind of the Marvel hero Dazzler, who absorbs all sounds, which she then transduces into light as varied as strobe efffects, holograms, or actual laser beams. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:06:27 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power Anyone who’s been to an airport knows that airports are some of the noisiest places on Earth. The constant noise of the airplanes flying overhead, taxiing, taking off and landing can be almost deafening – but some good might one day come of it. This concept – the Green Noise http://www.yankodesign.com/2010/01/22/noise-is-cool-for-power/converter – from designer Hung-Uei Jou would harvest noise from airports to provide the power for runway lights. Runway lights, of course, use a large amount of electricity since they need to be left on for long periods of time. Finding an alternative source of energy to lighten the electricity load on the grid would not only save money, but help to cut down on pollution from power plants. A small change, maybe, but a positive one nonetheless. Depending on the technical aspect, it may be possible to use this type of technology in other noisy places: city centers, sporting events, or even nightclubs. There aren’t any technical details about how the design would work, but it’s possible that the round pods on the ground would operate on piezoelectricity. When the sound waves vibrate the collection pods, the interior materials would produce small amounts of electricity. The tripod that supports the collection unit lifts it off of the ground enough to make it simple for airport techs to perform maintenance on the units and change the lights when they burn out. A screen on the side of each unit gives vital information about the unit’s status, such as how much of a charge it has remaining. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be
Let's call that a fail, Mr Worf. Granted, my brain's never processed information in the usual fashion, so I really can't tell if it's organic damage or natural function. I perceive the real world just fine. It's the 3D effects that throw me. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The way to test is by holding two identical objects out in front of you with one object directly behind the other. If it looks like just one object your brain is not processing the imagery correctly. One of the people that they talked to on tv said that when it was snowing it looked like a random white sheet was falling down. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Nope. Never did. I do have to say that my left eye is a bit weaker than the right, which might contribute to it. Got a ViewMaster for my eleventh birthday, and my mother fussed at me for weeks, because I played with it for about five minutes before realizing that it wasn't doing anything for me, and never touched it again until it was given to the Salvation Army. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: You can't see 3D in movies? Why is that? I assume you do have stereoscopic vision in everyday real life? What about the old ViewMaster? Does that work for your 3D vision? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be rave, abso-frelling-lutely NONE. I'm on the record as saying that I'd rather have effects as background to telling the story, not as a crutch. Movies such as Avatar, which are dependent on the effect, are a different animal, in my eyes. Add in the fact that my brain doesn't process 3D effects... On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Since the success of Avatar there have been a plethora of 3-D movies - many of which had no business being 3-D movies. This brought up the question of 2-D movies that should have been 3-D movies. For instance: Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World is a 2-D movie that would probably be enhanced by 3-D effects. Are there any others? ~rave? -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Net Neutrality Protesters Call for Google to Stand Tall
Ah... the Magic Evil Word. E___n... [?] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The blackouts and brownouts had more to do with Enron's game playing than anything else. There wasn't a problem with power in this state until Enron's game playing started. Sure, the state was behind on building powerplants but not at the point where it would happen everyday during the summer for 2 years!?! On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: This is Cali, right? A state famed for its rolling brown- and blackouts, passing on a chance at free energy... welcome to the Twilight Zone. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: They were trying to build a wind farm in the central valley and they were going to pay for everything. The cities around the farm would get a discount on power, but the state has been blocking the project for about 4 years now. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I sincerely hope that you're right, and that Google has the cojones to keep up the fight once they're inside. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: I think that Google is using the approach of changing the system from the inside. Google has their hands in so many pies that it will soon make M$ look like wannbes. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: I personally expect results roughly after Jesus makes it back this way... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/net-neutrality-google-protest/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 1B2.png
Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness =
They could definitely improve on the looks with a holo. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think that over time they will just be like any other tool or kiosk. Its not that they would replace humans but they do repetitive jobs the best. Would it be better if they were a hologram? On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, but that's not it for me. It's that they still don't look and act quite all the way real, and that last few percentage points can be creepy. The Uncanny Valley, again. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:47:50 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = They have several that are used as receptionists in Japan. I think that the difference between here and Japan is that they weren't bombarded with psycho robot movies for the last 60 years. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: The Uncanny Valley strikes again. Really creepy-looking, and no offense against the lady that's the model, but when I saw it, I honestly thought it was a dude in a wig. I think that we need to be careful trying to unleash these almost-but-not-quite-human robots on the populace. That creepiness factor might make the more sadistic and violent elements among us get perverse pleasure in attacking the automatons. Fear often breeds violence, you know, and i can see a sick market for people building such robots expressly for the purpose of letting people maim and destroy them. in fact, that particular angle's been the topic of innumerable scifi stories over the years... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 4:53:55 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = Someone out there... please tell me to put down the Beretta I'm pointing at my screen right now. Mind you, I fully expect that such will happen, far sooner than we think (some rich, dying billionaire out there, wanting to cheat the Grim Reaper). That could be trouble all its own. A consciousness, able to interact with the Internet directly? To quote Bill Paxton from Aliens -- Game over, man. Any bad press? Gone. Any corporate takeover? Done so fast it would take days to sort it all out. If the guy likes porn? YouTube starts churning it out, whether it likes to or not. Anyone who'd like to use those ideas, feel free. Just let me know when they hit print, because I want to read them. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = The quest for artificial intelligence has led mankind to some pretty strange places, but the Terasem Movementhttp://www.terasemcentral.org/index.htmlhas just taken it to a decidedly creepy new level. The non-profit agency is dedicated to educating the public about the necessity of extending life through cyber-consciousness. In other words, they believe that the human essence can be extended beyond life with the use of robots. They created this vaguely creepy robot called Bina48. The bot is the first privately-funded artificial intelligence robot of its type, and it’s modeled on a real woman named Bina Rothblatt. The real Bina spent many hours loading information into the head of Bina48, giving “her” a personality and the ability to converse with visitors. The above video documents Bina48′s interview with a New York Times reporter; it’s apparent that the technology can use a little refinement before we can trust it to store our consciousness after we die. But if its heartbreaking desires to have its own life, work in the garden and take over the world are any indication, we’d better start welcoming our new artificially intelligent overlords now. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvcQCJpZJH8feature=player_embedded#! -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness =
There's a few companies that are working on personal assistants that use AI. There's a few different approaches to it. For example, there are a couple of cute robo-animals, the other is a face on your pc, and another is a voice in a mirror or from a small device on your desktop. The latter would be the easiest to implement for public use. People don't make the connection but you are already using this kind of technology every time you call a business and go through a phone tree. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: They could definitely improve on the looks with a holo. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I think that over time they will just be like any other tool or kiosk. Its not that they would replace humans but they do repetitive jobs the best. Would it be better if they were a hologram? On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, but that's not it for me. It's that they still don't look and act quite all the way real, and that last few percentage points can be creepy. The Uncanny Valley, again. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:47:50 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = They have several that are used as receptionists in Japan. I think that the difference between here and Japan is that they weren't bombarded with psycho robot movies for the last 60 years. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: The Uncanny Valley strikes again. Really creepy-looking, and no offense against the lady that's the model, but when I saw it, I honestly thought it was a dude in a wig. I think that we need to be careful trying to unleash these almost-but-not-quite-human robots on the populace. That creepiness factor might make the more sadistic and violent elements among us get perverse pleasure in attacking the automatons. Fear often breeds violence, you know, and i can see a sick market for people building such robots expressly for the purpose of letting people maim and destroy them. in fact, that particular angle's been the topic of innumerable scifi stories over the years... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 4:53:55 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = Someone out there... please tell me to put down the Beretta I'm pointing at my screen right now. Mind you, I fully expect that such will happen, far sooner than we think (some rich, dying billionaire out there, wanting to cheat the Grim Reaper). That could be trouble all its own. A consciousness, able to interact with the Internet directly? To quote Bill Paxton from Aliens -- Game over, man. Any bad press? Gone. Any corporate takeover? Done so fast it would take days to sort it all out. If the guy likes porn? YouTube starts churning it out, whether it likes to or not. Anyone who'd like to use those ideas, feel free. Just let me know when they hit print, because I want to read them. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = The quest for artificial intelligence has led mankind to some pretty strange places, but the Terasem Movementhttp://www.terasemcentral.org/index.htmlhas just taken it to a decidedly creepy new level. The non-profit agency is dedicated to educating the public about the necessity of extending life through cyber-consciousness. In other words, they believe that the human essence can be extended beyond life with the use of robots. They created this vaguely creepy robot called Bina48. The bot is the first privately-funded artificial intelligence robot of its type, and it’s modeled on a real woman named Bina Rothblatt. The real Bina spent many hours loading information into the head of Bina48, giving “her” a personality and the ability to converse with visitors. The above video documents Bina48′s interview with a New York Times reporter; it’s apparent that the technology can use a little refinement before we can trust it to store our consciousness after we die. But if its heartbreaking desires to have its own life, work in the garden and take over the world are any indication, we’d better start welcoming our new artificially intelligent overlords now. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvcQCJpZJH8feature=player_embedded#! -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
Re: [scifinoir2] Net Neutrality Protesters Call for Google to Stand Tall
I forgot to mention that after Enron we haven't had a brownout since. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Ah... the Magic Evil Word. E___n... [?] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The blackouts and brownouts had more to do with Enron's game playing than anything else. There wasn't a problem with power in this state until Enron's game playing started. Sure, the state was behind on building powerplants but not at the point where it would happen everyday during the summer for 2 years!?! On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: This is Cali, right? A state famed for its rolling brown- and blackouts, passing on a chance at free energy... welcome to the Twilight Zone. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: They were trying to build a wind farm in the central valley and they were going to pay for everything. The cities around the farm would get a discount on power, but the state has been blocking the project for about 4 years now. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, I sincerely hope that you're right, and that Google has the cojones to keep up the fight once they're inside. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: I think that Google is using the approach of changing the system from the inside. Google has their hands in so many pies that it will soon make M$ look like wannbes. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: I personally expect results roughly after Jesus makes it back this way... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/net-neutrality-google-protest/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 1B2.png
[scifinoir2] Super Nova – world’s first carbon neutral megaya cht
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[scifinoir2] New method to predict how nanoparticles will react in the human body
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[scifinoir2] Free software can help with studies
This article should be called Alternatives to Microsoft software. Back to school: Free software can help with studies By RENÉ GUZMAN STAFF WRITER Aug. 15, 2010, 5:30PM *Share* [image: icon]Del.icio.ushttp://del.icio.us/post?url=http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/main/7154537.htmltitle=Back%20to%20school:%20Free%20software%20can%20help%20with%20studies%20%7C%20Life%20%7C%20Chron.com%20-%20Houston%20Chronicle [image: icon]Digghttp://digg.com/submit?phase=2url=http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/main/7154537.htmltitle=Back%20to%20school:%20Free%20software%20can%20help%20with%20studies%20%7C%20Life%20%7C%20Chron.com%20-%20Houston%20Chronicle [image: icon]Twitterhttp://twitter.com/home?status=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fdisp%2Fstory.mpl%2Flife%2Fmain%2F7154537.html%20-%20Back%20to%20school%3A%20Free%20software%20can%20help%20with%20studies%20%7C%20Life%20%7C%20Chron.com%20-%20Houston%20Chronicle Yahoo! Buzzhttp://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=%2F*%3C%21%5BCDATA%5B*%2F%20houston_chron196guid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fdisp%2Fstory.mpl%2Fbuzz%2F7154537.html%20%2F*%5D%5D%3E*%2F [image: icon]Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/main/7154537.htmlt=Back%20to%20school:%20Free%20software%20can%20help%20with%20studies%20%7C%20Life%20%7C%20Chron.com%20-%20Houston%20Chronicle [image: icon]StumbleUponhttp://www.stumbleupon.com/submit?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fdisp%2Fstory.mpl%2Flife%2Fmain%2F7154537.html%26title%3DBack%20to%20school%3A%20Free%20software%20can%20help%20with%20studies%20%7C%20Life%20%7C%20Chron.com%20-%20Houston%20Chronicle Email http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/main/7154537.html# Close [X] http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/main/7154537.html# Back to school means more than just hitting the books. It also means hitting the computer to bang out a term paper, create a PowerPoint-type presentation or simply go online to find out next week's assignments. Good thing the Web has plenty of free software to handle your course load. From word processing to image editing, you'll find a wealth of aptly named freeware that meets or even exceeds its commercial rivals when it comes to features and operability. And whether you download these freebies or just play with them online, they're sure to save you hundreds in software costs. (Trust us, we have the prices for some of the more popular software to prove it.) Here are a few must-have free programs to tackle your class work, whether you use a Mac or a PC. Freely. *Word processor office suite* *Instead of**: Microsoft Office**Home* and *Student 2010* ($149.99, Windows) and *Office 2008 for Mac Home* and *Student Edition* ($149.99) *Use: **AbiWord *(*abiword.com* http://www.abiword.com/), *OpenOffice.org *(*openoffice.org* http://www.openoffice.org/), *Google Docs *(* docs.google.com* http://www.docs.google.com/), *Zoho Writer *(* writer.zoho.com* http://www.writer.zoho.com/),* Zoho Sheet* (* sheet.zoho.com* http://www.sheet.zoho.com/), *Zoho Show* (*show.zoho.com*http://www.show.zoho.com/ ) For a basic word processor — something you can write complex and multipage reports with - *AbiWord* is a fairly strong option, says Seth Rosenblatt, senior associate editor for the tech-resource site CNET. This downloadable program is super simple to use and saves documents in myriad formats, including Microsoft Word (.doc) and Office Open XML (.docx). If you'd rather keep your essays in the cloud, you can't beat the online word processors *Google Docs* and *Zoho Writer*. Both let you access documents anywhere you have a Web connection (computer or smartphone), import and export documents, and share documents online with real-time collaboration just like a study group within a screen. Need more than word processing? Rosenblatt recommends you download the productivity suite *openoffice.org http://www.openoffice.org/*. We're talking about something that is designed to completely replicate or replicate as closely as possible, the toolset that comes in Microsoft Office, he says, but you don't have to pay for it. OpenOffice.org lets you write with *Writer*, design spreadsheets with *Calc*, craft presentations with* Impress*, play with graphics with *Draw* and make a database with *Base*. OpenOffice.org reads and writes most file formats, including those common to Microsoft Office. For similar office elements online, try Google Docs and Zoho productivity apps *Zoho Sheet *for spreadsheets and *Zoho Show *for presentations. *Image editing* *Instead of:**Adobe Photoshop Elements 8 *($99.99) or *Adobe Photoshop CS5 12* ($699.99) *Use:**Photoscape* (*photoscape.org* http://www.photoscape.org/), Windows),* Paint.NET* (*getpaint.net* http://www.getpaint.net/), Windows), * Phoenix *(*aviary.com* http://www.aviary.com/, choose Image Editor), *Picnik *(*picnik.com* http://www.picnik.com/), *GIMP* (*gimp.org*http://www.gimp.org/ ) Whether you need to add visual aids to your book report
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Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
I had a former co-worker who said that Anakin vacillated between a psycho and a bratty teen. I mean, in a movie about the end of a way of life and huge battles of good and evil, you get lines like him whining It's Obi-Wan's fault! just like a jealous teen. Even the climactic battle, where he's lying on the beach with his legs cut off, he screams I hate you! like a petulant child. The *only* thing even coming close to saving that scene is McGregor's acting ability. His anguished You were the Chosen One! is really good. - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:19:25 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I also found Anakin's sense of betrayal by Padme to be both unbelievable and completely under developed. There has to be more time, reason and motivation between I'm doing what I am doing because I fear your loss to I'm so hurt I want you dead. I just realized that Sith is poorly constructed melodrama. I wonder why it took me so long. It reminds me of Dudley Do Right cartoons. Bosco --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 10:51 AM I agree. I too felt the shift with Return of the Jedi. I had issues with a lot in that movie. for one, had I written it, there's no way I'd have had Vader change so quickly. When he first takes Luke to the Emperor, he says he is your Master, my son, then after a hurt Luke is taken off, Vader wanders over to a railing and looks out into the night as if he feels bad! I remember in the theatre saying What the hell? Why is he so maudlin all of a sudden?. I kept thinking there had to have been prior interactions between Vader and Luke. Else, his quick influx of paternal attachment just made no sense. I also felt the climactic scene where Vader attacked the Emperor wasn't earned. Again, i just didn't see enough time given to justify that. I mean, Vader was a guy who had killed children, tried to kill his Master, and now all of a sudden he's sentimental?? And Sith, I completely agree. He watches Mace defeated, then drops to his knees and swears allegiance? Completely illogical! I still can't get how the Sith can so easily mask their true selves around the Jedi either. The Emperor and Anakin were all but twirling their moustaches, and Yoda, Mace, and the rest couldn't sense that at all? WTF? Let's not even start about how Anakin could have a suite apartment with his pregnant wife right under the Jedi's noses, nor how none of the medi-scans detected the presence of twins. And what's this dying of a broken heart crap? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:33:14 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray Thanks. I try. I love writing. Too bad there's no money in it and loads and loads of soul wrenching work. Jar Jar wasn't the big issue for me, I just recall him being the first sign that it was time to insert the fork in the corpse of the legacy. The list of things that is wrong actually starts with Return of the Jedi and starts with the ewoks. It goes downhill from there. Revenge of the Sith was for me the deepest insult. The bad acting, the crappy direction, the totally unbelievable final conversion from Anakin to Vader with all it's sophomoric character motivation was a full and total betrayal. Total bummer. I spend a lot of time wishing someone would do it better. I'll bet it gets done. I hope in my life time. The fact that hollywood is stuck in recycle mode actual gives me hope for this one. --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 9:47 AM This was a really well written little e-mail. You managed to convey your feelings very vividly. I agree and felt the same way. Unlike Kurtz, i think prequels can be assume ideas. I love backstories, and like you, thought the backstory of the Star Wars universe would be great. And like you, I sat in the theatre and was stunned at what I saw. I hated that the entire first movie was wasted on Baby Vader, especially because the young actor was horrible! That Pod race--WTF? Midchlorians??? Jar Jar was the least of my issues. And note how with the first prequel movie, Lucas spent most of the film killing legions of robots, but very view living beings died. it all showed how he'd moved from films that kids and families could enjoy, but that still felt adult, to really kiddie level films, that reminded me of nothing so much as cartoons
Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray
Agreed, that scene should have been so powerful it compared with any of the greatest classic moments in film. We should remember that in the way we remember Struther Martin saying, What we have here is a failure to communicate, or Sydney Poitier's line from In The Heat Of The Night: They call me Mr. Tibbs. It should have been epic but instead it was, to quote the hipster kids, an epic fail. I got stop belaboring this. It's making me totally bummed out again. Bosco --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 7:26 PM I had a former co-worker who said that Anakin vacillated between a psycho and a bratty teen. I mean, in a movie about the end of a way of life and huge battles of good and evil, you get lines like him whining It's Obi-Wan's fault! just like a jealous teen. Even the climactic battle, where he's lying on the beach with his legs cut off, he screams I hate you! like a petulant child. The *only* thing even coming close to saving that scene is McGregor's acting ability. His anguished You were the Chosen One! is really good. - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:19:25 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray I also found Anakin's sense of betrayal by Padme to be both unbelievable and completely under developed. There has to be more time, reason and motivation between I'm doing what I am doing because I fear your loss to I'm so hurt I want you dead. I just realized that Sith is poorly constructed melodrama. I wonder why it took me so long. It reminds me of Dudley Do Right cartoons. Bosco --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 10:51 AM I agree. I too felt the shift with Return of the Jedi. I had issues with a lot in that movie. for one, had I written it, there's no way I'd have had Vader change so quickly. When he first takes Luke to the Emperor, he says he is your Master, my son, then after a hurt Luke is taken off, Vader wanders over to a railing and looks out into the night as if he feels bad! I remember in the theatre saying What the hell? Why is he so maudlin all of a sudden?. I kept thinking there had to have been prior interactions between Vader and Luke. Else, his quick influx of paternal attachment just made no sense. I also felt the climactic scene where Vader attacked the Emperor wasn't earned. Again, i just didn't see enough time given to justify that. I mean, Vader was a guy who had killed children, tried to kill his Master, and now all of a sudden he's sentimental?? And Sith, I completely agree. He watches Mace defeated, then drops to his knees and swears allegiance? Completely illogical! I still can't get how the Sith can so easily mask their true selves around the Jedi either. The Emperor and Anakin were all but twirling their moustaches, and Yoda, Mace, and the rest couldn't sense that at all? WTF? Let's not even start about how Anakin could have a suite apartment with his pregnant wife right under the Jedi's noses, nor how none of the medi-scans detected the presence of twins. And what's this dying of a broken heart crap? - Original Message - From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:33:14 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray Thanks. I try. I love writing. Too bad there's no money in it and loads and loads of soul wrenching work. Jar Jar wasn't the big issue for me, I just recall him being the first sign that it was time to insert the fork in the corpse of the legacy. The list of things that is wrong actually starts with Return of the Jedi and starts with the ewoks. It goes downhill from there. Revenge of the Sith was for me the deepest insult. The bad acting, the crappy direction, the totally unbelievable final conversion from Anakin to Vader with all it's sophomoric character motivation was a full and total betrayal. Total bummer. I spend a lot of time wishing someone would do it better. I'll bet it gets done. I hope in my life time. The fact that hollywood is stuck in recycle mode actual gives me hope for this one. --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 9:47 AM
Re: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas
The below from the interview really resonates with me. One problem i always had with Return of the Jedi was the ending. I kept thinking that just because the second Death Star was destroyed, and Vader and the Emperor dead, that only meant the work was beginning. After all, there was a huge interstellar apparatus in place that had aided and been complicit with the Empire's depredations. This system included the rule of whole solar systems, a corrupt Senate, leaders on hundreds of worlds loyal to the Empire that gave them money and power, a military dedicated to the Empire, and a dearth of Jedi to enforce the principles of the Old Republic. In short, the work was indeed just beginning, and tackling the task of a galaxy-wide makeover of a totalitarian state into a democratic one again would be a monumental task. Look at how the former Soviet Union is already struggling mightily with autocratic elements fighting with its democratic aspirations. They have a Prime Minister who was an autocratic president who's basically their strong man. So the Ewok lua as he put it, was indeed premature. I think that if you read some of the books, and study the Expanded Universe online, you see more mature, thoughtful, and in-depth treatments that handle that world a lot better than the kid- and crowd-pleasing movies. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:01:40 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas George Lucas, Mercenary Bastich First Class? You betcha, according to Kurtz... http://www.collider.com/2010/08/13/star-wars-and-empire-strikes-back-producer-gary-kurtz-speaks-bluntly-about-george-lucas-return-of-the-jedi-and-more/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas
I neglected to cite the text from the interview I was talking about, but include it below. Again, spend some time reading the Expanded Universe, which details the history after the third film. It's fascinating, and much more well thought out and mature than the bulk of the movies. http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/lukeskywalker/index.html “We had an outline and George changed everything in it, Kurtz said. “Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn’t want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason.” The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone “like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,” as Kurtz put it. Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau. - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas The below from the interview really resonates with me. One problem i always had with Return of the Jedi was the ending. I kept thinking that just because the second Death Star was destroyed, and Vader and the Emperor dead, that only meant the work was beginning. After all, there was a huge interstellar apparatus in place that had aided and been complicit with the Empire's depredations. This system included the rule of whole solar systems, a corrupt Senate, leaders on hundreds of worlds loyal to the Empire that gave them money and power, a military dedicated to the Empire, and a dearth of Jedi to enforce the principles of the Old Republic. In short, the work was indeed just beginning, and tackling the task of a galaxy-wide makeover of a totalitarian state into a democratic one again would be a monumental task. Look at how the former Soviet Union is already struggling mightily with autocratic elements fighting with its democratic aspirations. They have a Prime Minister who was an autocratic president who's basically their strong man. So the Ewok lua as he put it, was indeed premature. I think that if you read some of the books, and study the Expanded Universe online, you see more mature, thoughtful, and in-depth treatments that handle that world a lot better than the kid- and crowd-pleasing movies. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:01:40 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas George Lucas, Mercenary Bastich First Class? You betcha, according to Kurtz... http://www.collider.com/2010/08/13/star-wars-and-empire-strikes-back-producer-gary-kurtz-speaks-bluntly-about-george-lucas-return-of-the-jedi-and-more/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik