Re: [scifinoir2] Topic: Favorites?
What is your favorite scifi movie character? Raze from Underworld (total badass) What is your favorite scifi book character? Harry Dresden Wizard, from the Dresden files. What is your favorite comic book and comic book character? My favorite comic has to be Sandman, but my favorite character is Batman, always has and always will be. Jeff
Re: [scifinoir2] Time after Time
Speaking as a soon to be first time father of twin girls let me just say that this not only warms my heart, but also puts at ease some of my worries. What a proud father you must be. Jeff On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Hand me a tissue, Tito! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30856677id=1161253702 Photo 30 of 30 Back to Albumhttp://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2042914id=1161253702page=2 · My Photos http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=1161253702 - Previoushttp://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31358657id=1161253702 - Next http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30856677id=1161253702 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30856677id=1161253702
Re: [scifinoir2] Just finished reading Seige #4
Thats how Bendis writes. There is never any consistency in a BMB written story. The plot lines are great, the character dialog is good, but there is never any consistency in character traits, development or actions. His whole run on New Avengers was that way. I was beginning to think the only reason he was writing the book was to make the hood into a big player. Jeff On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Yeah, good stuff. The stuff with Sentry was great. Spoilers. Although, what did Osborn mean by saying he was the Angel of Death? They didn't really explain how that happened, how the formula bonded the Angel (I'm assuming that's the deal) wth Bob, or why it made him into a murdering psychopath instead of an entity that carried out missions for Heaven. And, how was Thor able to finally kill hm with that final blow, when all other deaths failed to do so? Morganna blew him into bits, his wife shot his face off, and he recovered. Stark dropped the HAMMER carrier on him and he recovered. Thor hits him with Mjolnir, and he turns into a skeleton but can't regenerate. Why is that? - Original Message - From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2010 5:00:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Just finished reading Seige #4 Wow
Re: [scifinoir2] India's copyright bill gets it right
So I never heard of Spokeo before, but I checked it out and it is beyond creepy the amount of information they have about me. They got my race wrong, but otherwise dead on, and its out there for anyone to see. A bit wide eyed at the moment. Jeff On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: Yea, it is a good idea not to put any personal info on sites like facebook. Your personal pictures will appear on spokeo as well. My sister's friend's home address and telephone number was on there. It is a stalker's paradise. This may open up a new industry though for people that can assist others in removing their cyber presence. That's the only bright side to this that I can think of. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I've already been told about this by a dear friend who was concerned about the fact that details of her business activities were getting out to people she'd long since stopped speaking to. A bit of searching showed her Spokeo. Ever since, she's radically cut back her online presence. Site's a cyber-stalker's paradise. Advice on the best way to beat coming up on their radar is NOT to be logged into any site when you search. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: We allow corporations to have free reign with our privacy rights here. (junk mail is still a multi-million dollar business. Not to mention the things going on with facebook.) They buy and sell our information at will and we have to jump through a myriad of hoops to stop it from happening on a small level. Would you like to see an example of the next level of this? How about a one stop website for all of the things that you have posted online sorted for consumption by every other corporation out there? Check out Spokeo http://www.spokeo.com/ They claim that it is a phone book, but for a fee you can gather data on anyone by name or email address. I suggest that you do a search on yourself to see what I'm talking about. They not only have personal info gathered, but your wealth, and employment too! On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: I just realized what this means, Mr Worf, and why the West is so set against it. Change. Even though we are one of the most technologically and socially advanced nations on the planet, we DON'T like change by and large. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote: That's what we need instead of forcing people to repurchase things that they already own. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/22/indias-copyright-bil.html India's new copyright bill sounds like a pretty good piece of work: it declares private, personal copying to be fair dealing (like US fair use) and limits the prohibition on breaking DRM so that it's only illegal to do so if you're also violating copyright. That means that you can break the DRM on your iPad to move your books to your Kindle or vice-versa. It also makes it legal to make, distribute and sell tools to accomplish this. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Obama looking at interesting things
I got through about five slides before I realized that the pictures were photo shopped. The sword of omens looks very real. Jeff On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Obama looking at interesting things (Captain America's Shield, Fortress of Solitude etc.)... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dryponder/sets/72157623726710218/
Re: [scifinoir2] Nine Rings of Wu-Tang
I still have this series and it was a great read, but if I remember correctly they never finished the story, I'll have to go through myboxes and find them. Jeff On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.newkadia.com/?Comics=123206
Re: [scifinoir2] New DVD
I love their take on Owl Man. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone heard any early talk about this new DC movie: Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths? comes out of the 23rd. Fate.
Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question
Can I just say that I love this conversation. These are that types of conversations I used to have with my friends back in school and its really good to see that my friends and I are not the only ones to think of these things. Jeff On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting a crash course in Marvel characters tonight! How can people keep up with so many characters? I was just looking Canat all of the offshoots such as Marvel UK. (Captain Britain) There is another universe of characters right there. Whew! Another interesting thing is there are Arab and Afghan characters in the Marvel universe. Such as the Arabian knight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Knight_%28comics%29 And Dust, a burqa wearing woman from Afghanistan that can transform into a dust storm : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_%28comics%29 I also started reading about X-23. Lots of interesting characters! X-23 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-23 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mr. Worf, I would say that it is a matter stream of exotic particles. From the comics and the movies we know that it generates no heat, no radiation, no electrical or magnetic fields. It can manipulate molecules and it has concussive shock power. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:37:08 -0800 *To: *scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[scifinoir2] Xmen question What kind of light beam comes out of Cyclop's eyes? If it is plasma couldn't Magneto control the beam? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books
I don't think I could ever lose the comfort of having a bent and beaten paperback nestled in my back pocket. Jeff On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I think that's inevitable for industrialized, high-tech parts of the world. I know an ever-increasing number of adults and kids who barelyread any books, electronic or paperback. but what they do read is a lot of web stuff, play a lot of video games, and fiddle around with iPods, cell phones, etc. Such people are positioned to respond more to devices like the Kindle. I like the Kindle and plan to own one some day. but no electronics will ever replace the real things for me. There's something great about the tactile feeling of turning the pages of a magazine or book. And it's also nice to not have to worry about power supplies, damage to electronics, etc. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:23:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Amazon sells more eBooks than actual books Amazon has announced that it sold lots of Kindle eReaders this Christmas. And what's more interesting is that Amazon sold more eBooks on Christmas day than actual books. Are we moving towards a world where regular paper books are going to become a thing of the past? http://nexus404.com/Blog/2009/12/27/amazon-sells-record-number-of-kindle-ereaders-amazon-sells-more-kindle-ebooks-than-actual-books-this-christmas/
Re: [scifinoir2] Movie Review: The Rise of Cobra 100% SPOILER FREE
I would like to add my strong endorsement of this movie. As a fan of both the comic books and the cartoon I was not disappointed and thoroughly entertained. Jeff On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, votomguy votom...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys, As you know, Rise of Cobra was released yesterday here in the US. I just got in from seeing it today. All I have to say is WOW. The movie was very well done. For the most part, it stayed true to the comic book series. It did have it's campy moments, but they were few and far between while remaining enjoyable at the same time. There were some twists on a few action movie cliches. One bright spot, you didn't have to wait for the action. G.I. Joe shows up pretty early in the movie and brings tonnes of action with them. While I didn't and still don't like the international Special Forces thing, I have to say that it really works. Best of all, for fans of G.I.Joe there were plenty of easter eggs throughout the movie. They really don't contribute to the plot, but your heart skips a beat everytime you see one. It's really kid friendly without being overtly so. There's almost no profanity, although the characters do say sugar honey iced tea a few times but that's about it. ALL of the characters were executed very well. There weren't any that felt like an after thought or filler characters. All in all it was a really good movie. Definitely see it if you can. I've been waiting for a GIJoe live action movie since I was 12. (I'm 31 now) Out of what I'd really want to see in a live action GIJoe flick I'd say that I got about 85% of what I really wanted. Please if you've seen the movie don't talk about it in this thread. I just wanted to endorse the movie for all of those who had doubts about it. I hope this helps.
Re: [scifinoir2] What was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW!?
For me it would have to be Butcher's Storm Front. It was the first Dresden files book and it was like a breath of fresh air to me. Before that it was Christopher Golden's Angels souls demon hearts. I have to admit that my strong church upbringing made me feel guilty for enjoying that book so much. Jeff On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:46 AM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: The question about Asimov's Foundation septology leads me to ask what was the last SF novel you read that made you go WOW! And, by that, I mean the last novel that made your head spin around. For me it was William Gibson's Neuromancer and that was published in 1984, twenty-five years ago! By-the-by, I am only interested in novel novels - do not summit graphic novels. Thanks, ~rave!
Re: [scifinoir2] Poll: X-Men Storm versus?
I think a deranged Forge who never got over Ororo could come after her and T'Challa. Jeff On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com wrote: The Shadow King of course.. On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Said Kakese Dibinga s...@bayindogroup.com wrote: Okay people, I'm conducting a poll that asks the following question: If Ororo Munroe aka 'Storm' (not played by Halle Berry) was given her own movie, who should the villain be and why? Feel free to include your circle of freinds in this polling. Polling will end on May 15, 2009 and I'll email all of you the results and announce the top choices on my radio station on May 16, 2009 at 530pm PST. My email is s...@bayindogroup.com. Thank you, Said Said Yenga Kakese Dibinga Director General The Bayindo Group SA POB 1782 Los Angeles, CA 90078-1782 c: 1.323.599.6228 em: s...@bayindogroup.comskype: saiddibinga -- cwm blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Krod Mandoon: The Flaming Pile Of Poop
I kind of liked it. It's nothing I would set my DVR for, but it's a nice piece of fluff to watch while your doing something else. Jeff On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Bosco, I still haven't gotten around to seeing it. The consensus opinion I get from my other SF group is that it's poop-capable. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Krod Mandoon: The Flaming Pile Of Poop Date : Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From : Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com To : Sci Fi Noir scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com It seems like it could be good but I got halfway through the premier and deleted the show and rest of the series from my scheduled recordings. Has anyone else watched this? Am I missing something or is this the toilet plopper it seems? B http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints
Being an avid fan of the book I debated about seeing the movie. I had nothing else to do this weekend so I gave it a try and I am very glad I did. I also went into it knowing that there was no way they could stay completely faithful to the source material. the movie in my opinion did its best to portray the basic story points and plot of the book and again in my opinion they did a good job. The movie itself is a good movie, but just like the book it is very intellectual so for those going to see a Dark Knight remake they will be out of look, but dont stay away from the movie just because it does not contain everything there was in the novel. Jeff On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: rave, I haven't seen the movie (and WON'T), but I own and have read the graphic novel (about to do so again, after I finish the book I'm parallel-reading with a friend), but my one problem with altering material from source is the alteration of continuity for those watching without having seen the source material. Back in '89, when Tim Burton did Batman, he made the decision to have Jack Napier kill Thomas and Martha Wayne, and for Batman to later contribute (although inadvertently) to the accident that turned Napier int the Joker. As a result of that, an entire generation of kids believe that to be continuity origin, and will come to blows with you if you try to tell them that Joe Chill did the deed. (Personal experience speaking.) And, when you hand them the source material to prove your point (as I did, after ducking punches), they *still* won't believe you. Maybe it's unavoidable... Apologies for the stupid lecture, as all of you probably knew that stuff anyway. Couldn't rein in the words. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints Date : Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:43:13 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I haven't read or seen Watchmen. That said, I believe it is almost always a mistake for a filmmaker to slavishly film a novel, graphic or otherwise. Authors carp but some of the best cinematic adaptations are those that stray - Kubrick's The Shining for instance. On the other hand, some constituencies are more implacable than others: Gone With the Wind, and The Lord of the Rings just to name two. In these instances, remaining as true and faithful to the original bible is essential. I know the filmmaker felt this was one of those cases but I don't know if it was in fact one of them. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Haynes wrote: OK, I saw Watchmen Friday and, quite frankly, I didn't like it. I haven't read the comic but I was hoping that the film would stand on its own. I am aware that the comic is an icon within the genre and I do plan on reading it once the hype dies down and I can find it for a reasonable price. As I was walking out of the theater, I thought to myself that the audience for this thing will drop dramatically next weekend. I understood the symbolism and the over-arching statement of the story, but it just didn't work as a movie. Maybe if I'd read the comic before watching it I would have a different opinion, but that shouldn't be the case. Gerald Haynes Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two. Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over. Continual improvement is always better than delayed perfection. From: Grayson Reyes-Cole To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 2:55:21 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints Hear Hear, Keith! Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com Facebook Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... In Print April 6, 2009 Ghost Writer Reviews: Grayson-Reyes Cole is an incredibly imaginative and original writer, and fans of dark fantasy, modern fantasy, and science fiction will enjoy “Bright Star†. Read the full review at http://ghostwriterr eviews.com/ index.php? main_page= product_infoamp;products_id= 608 From: Keith Johnson To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 1:39:22 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Watchmen's First Day... Disappoints The problem nowadays is that everything is too micro-analyzed and watched. Whether it's Obama's performance, TV series, or movies, they are monitored on a minute-by-minute, second-by-second basis. A sixty-plus million dollar haul is great for a nearly three-hour, R-rated movie based on a comic that most people outside the fanbase never heard of. And even among comic fans, the majority have never read Watchmen. So, while the hype might have been way up there, i personally try to avoid it. I think it's doing well, it will do
Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying?
I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter mbsj...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying?
There are good books outside of the big two that do come out on time. Fables, Invincible, Boys, Project Superpowers, 100 Bullets these are all good books that I still enjoy, but it is frustrating to cough up 30+ dollars for something that doesnt even come out on time and when it does is practically unreadable. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: I loved Annihilation as well, B. When both it and Civil War came out, I read them both. After three issues of each, I did something I've never done before. I got rid of the Civil War books. Fortunately for my wallet, my comic store was willing to take them back for store credit, which I used for the next three Annihilation books. Still, I'm not jumping ship yet. Too many good reads between the lines. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:43 - From : B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying?
Mine is the same for books that are not on the pull list. Because so many people have stopped buying my guy orders most books based only on the pull list. My problem is my optimism. I keep hoping that it will get better so I buy. For many years my other problem was in breaking up my collection, and telling myself I would stop once I reached issue 500 or soemthing like that. Now I pick up things on word of mouth. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Jeff, I don't like to make assumptions, so can I instead venture an uneducated guess that you're at the mercy of one of Those Evil Comics Vendors Who Force You To Buy Unseen? My comics store (Oxford, 2455 Piedmont Road, Atlanta, GA) keeps most of their books open for reading, bagging only after six months. My last store had the old open it and you've bought it policy, which I can't stand. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:01:24 -0500 From : Jeff Carter mbsj...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com There are good books outside of the big two that do come out on time. Fables, Invincible, Boys, Project Superpowers, 100 Bullets these are all good books that I still enjoy, but it is frustrating to cough up 30+ dollars for something that doesnt even come out on time and when it does is practically unreadable. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: I loved Annihilation as well, B. When both it and Civil War came out, I read them both. After three issues of each, I did something I've never done before. I got rid of the Civil War books. Fortunately for my wallet, my comic store was willing to take them back for store credit, which I used for the next three Annihilation books. Still, I'm not jumping ship yet. Too many good reads between the lines. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:43 - From : B. Smith To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending
Re: [scifinoir2] Blomicon
I was watching that with my wife and she looked at me and said you would love to be there wouldn't you, and all I could do was shake my head and say yes. Jeff On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:28 PM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: David Alan Grier's CHOCOLATE NEWS on Comedy Central recently did a funny take on both black comic geeks and black comic book creators. BLOMICON - 3 days, 6 booths and over 76 attendees witnessed the unveiling of the newest black superheros: Horsefly (Not Housefly! Houseflys eat sh*t, Horseflys eat NECTAR) Dee Jay (given powers at a block party by a fallen power line) Meltdown (cleaning guy caught in Nuclear Plant meltdown) Slavefish (I was on a slave ship and rather than be sold into bondage I chose to take my own life. Shortly after diving overboard, an asteroid hit the ocean giving me superpowers. Needless to say, No book deals, movie deals or comic deals were signed. ~rave!
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
There are a series of books, but everything they have done so far is just based on the first book, and then lots of things that are not in the story at all. It seems that instead of focusing on the author's story they used the first book as a synopsis and went off from there. Jeff On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, that explains it. I thought it was a series of books. If it's just one book, no wonder they're wandering all over the place. I can't understand why they have all these side adventures if Richard's goal is to find and defeat the bad guy. -- Original message -- From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems as though they have added many many many diffent subplots to extend the one book into a series. After two episodes (I gave up after two) they were so far away from the book that they should'nt even give it the same name. Jeff *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:14 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend So, is it even close to the books? I can't tell where they're going in the series: is there supposed to be a destination or endpoint for where Richard and his compatriots are headed? Are they headed toward a specific goal or confrontation, or just wandering the countryside? You know, my wife walked into the living room one day when I was watching the show, sat down, and in less than two minutes said This must be done by the same people who did 'Xena' and 'Hercules' I asked her why she said that. I was expecting her to say some things like, I recognize the scenery, the production values of the villages and costumes are the same, etc. Instead, she said I knew it was the same people because they have the same goofy way of fighting and acting. She commented on how people who got hit did those over-the-top flips that were so common in those two other shows. Remember? Herc or his friend hit a guy on the chin and he does a complete flip worthy of a circus star. She noted that the fighting styles are way too dynamic and acrobatic in nature to be realisitc. And she pointed out the same method they use of having an army attack the heroes, but you can tell in reality it's about ten guys, aided with a whole bun ch of camera c uts. And the dialogue and lame humour is the same, she noted. So true. It really does feel like Xena-lite or something. I watch it if i'm home and bored simply because i jones for some distracting sword-and-sorcery, but it's not exactly original or overwhelming. -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On *Sun, 11/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels by Terry Goodkind. I've never read them, though I have several of the books in that gotta read this someday stack. Seems they're taking it seriously: filming is primarilty down in New
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
In the first book he makes it to Darken Rahl but he is delayed because he is kidnapped by a Mord Sith and tortured for quite some time. I assume that they have to add many sub plots to extend not only the length of the show, but also to fill an hour time slot each week. Jeff On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got it. One last question. In the books, what's the rationale for taking so long to get to the final confrontation? Do they have to wander around and gather an army, find magical objects, train Richard, or is it just so far that they take a long time and wander into obstacles along the way (a la Lord of the Rings?) I ask because every show they talk about having to fight the evil wizard, but then Richard goes hunting, the wizard hangs out with a lady he dallied with years ago, half the time they're walking and chilling out, and I can't figure out how long it should take to get to the evil wizard. -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are a series of books, but everything they have done so far is just based on the first book, and then lots of things that are not in the story at all. It seems that instead of focusing on the author's story they used the first book as a synopsis and went off from there. Jeff On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, that explains it. I thought it was a series of books. If it's just one book, no wonder they're wandering all over the place. I can't understand why they have all these side adventures if Richard's goal is to find and defeat the bad guy. -- Original message -- From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems as though they have added many many many diffent subplots to extend the one book into a series. After two episodes (I gave up after two) they were so far away from the book that they should'nt even give it the same name. Jeff *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:14 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend So, is it even close to the books? I can't tell where they're going in the series: is there supposed to be a destination or endpoint for where Richard and his compatriots are headed? Are they headed toward a specific goal or confrontation, or just wandering the countryside? You know, my wife walked into the living room one day when I was watching the show, sat down, and in less than two minutes said This must be done by the same people who did 'Xena' and 'Hercules' I asked her why she said that. I was expecting her to say some things like, I recognize the scenery, the production values of the villages and costumes are the same, etc. Instead, she said I knew it was the same people because they have the same goofy way of fighting and acting. She commented on how people who got hit did those over-the-top flips that were so common in those two other shows. Remember? Herc or his friend hit a guy on the chin and he does a complete flip worthy of a circus star. She noted that the fighting styles are way too dynamic and acrobatic in nature to be realisitc. And she pointed out the same method they use of having an army attack the heroes, but you can tell in reality it's about ten guys, aided with a whole bun ch of camera c uts. And the dialogue and lame humour is the same, she noted. So true. It really does feel like Xena-lite or something. I watch it if i'm home and bored simply because i jones for some distracting sword-and-sorcery, but it's not exactly original or overwhelming. -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Recommend Your Vampire Favorites
I have not yet had the pleasure of reading the last book of the series, but it's in my box o' books to read. I have seen the Golden, Mignola book as well as Golden Hellboy books in my comic shop but have not yet had a chance to pick them up, those are on my wishlist. By the way, there is another good book called Anno Dracula by Kim Newman which is set in an alternate world where vampires are common place and Dracula is the consort of Queen Victoria in the late 1880's. Jeff On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 8:04 PM, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure have. I've read the entire series and wish we would get one at least one more Peter Octavian book. BTW Christopher Golden is a very nice guy and has the patience of Job for his fans. I can't believe I blanked on those books. Golden and Mike Mignola have a book called Baltimore, or, The Steadfast Tin Soldier and the Vampire that is excellent. The title character wounds a giant vampire bat feeding on wounded and dying soldiers during WWI. By doing this he unleashes a vampiric plague and he spends his life trying to destroy the vampires that are preying on humanity. It's a great read. --
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood
She is in the book, but as nothing more than a name. Jeff On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See Died in the books too I'm told. I also read that they are trying to stay true to book one and part of book two for the first season as much as they can, but that after the first season, they will not be staying stue to the book. I agree with you about the grandmother, but I read that killing her was necessary for sookie's character development an d where they are taking the story. I want to know if the vegan psycho holistic blood drinking girl was in the book. That is a wild character -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Michelle Forbes(next Gen/Battlestar) to appear in True Blood Well, glory be! Somebody who has actually read the Sookie Stackhouse novels! Alas, I am not among them - but I am honored to be in the presence of somebody who has. Tell me true (I gotta know) - did they kill the grandmother off right away in the novels, too? I LOVED Lois Smith's portrayal and I thought she brought a bright-eyed common-sense wisdom that, in my opinion, the series is sorely lacking now that the dear old lady is gone. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coolness. :D I really do love the show. I think Lafayette has totally stolen it--I adore him. Sam's not bad, and Bill is WAY more interesting in the show than in the books--or is it just me? ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any friend of TRUE BLOOD is a friend of mine! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: I am completely addicted to that show, and it's the first one that I've been able to say that about in years on this side of the pond that is NOT done by Joss Wheden, lol. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon on 12/2: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:52 AM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: I love TRUE BLOOD! Vampires, shape-shifters, blood, violence, macabre humor and sex - does it get any better than that? Further, Lafayette Reynolds, played by Nelsan Ellis, may be the greatest homie- erotic character to hit cable since Michael K. Williams' Omar Little from THE WIRE. ~rave! Barack Obama has said that HBO's The Wire is his favorite show and that Omar is his favorite character. That's not an endorsement. He's not my favorite person, but he's a fascinating character. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote: No details other than IO think I saw her cause the Black girl to have a car accident. This is what I found A recent casting scoop from E! suggests that Michelle Forbes http://www.imdb.com/name/nm405/ (In Treatment http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0835434/ ) will be cast as a local meddler named Maryann, IMDB has her listed as appearing in four episodes and that she will become as series regular Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Be a fugitive slave for a night in Escape on the Undergro und Railroad
Well then I must be a lunatic. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Call me crazy, but I'm gonna pass on this. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Be_a_fugitive_slave_for_a_night_in_Escape_on_the_Undergro und_Railroad Date : Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:21 -0800 From : Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Curtis, Jr.' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Albert Fields' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], CINQUE [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Cleo' [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Kai Pettaway' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Kera' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Michael Gordon' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Seku Brathwaite' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Valery Jean' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Wendell Theophilus Smith' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Whitney J Evans' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a fugitive slave for a night in Escape on the Underground Railroad Cleveland offers the historically curious a sample of the heart-pounding panic, anger, and tears of escaped slaves making their way to freedom in Canada http://features.csmonitor.com/backstory/2008/11/04/be-a-fugitive-slave-for-a -night-in-%E2%80%9Cescape-on-the-underground-railroad%E2%80%9D/http://features.csmonitor.com/backstory/2008/11/04/be-a-fugitive-slave-for-a-night-in-%E2%80%9Cescape-on-the-underground-railroad%E2%80%9D/ By Wendy +slave+for+a+night+in+%22Escape+on+the+Underground+Railroad%22+%7C+csmonitor .comamp;expire=amp;urlID=32196019amp;fb=Yamp;url=http%3A%2F% 2Ffeatures.csmonitor.com%2Fb ackstory%2F2008%2F11%2F04%2Fbe-a-fugitive-slave-for-a-night-in-%25E2%2580%25 9Cescape-on-the-underground-railroad%25E2%2580%259D%2Famp;partnerID=410209 A. Hoke | Correspondent / November 4, 2008 edition http://features.csmonitor.com/backstory/wp-content/assets/15/145/vertical1.j pghttp://features.csmonitor.com/backstory/wp-content/assets/15/145/vertical1.jpg William Rieter/Special to The Christian Science Monitor Going back to the 1850s: Sherrie Tolliver (right) gets into character as Lissie, an Underground Railroad conductor in Cleveland's reeanactment program. _ Cleveland All is quiet in this wooded valley - for now. Autumn's sweetness is in the air as water rushes over rocks in Tinker's Creek and a golden sun sets trees aglow in the Cleveland Metroparks Bedford Reservation. But gathered in the picnic shelter on this early October evening is a cast of volunteers set to recreate a world as far from peace and tranquility as possible. Escape on the Underground Railroad, a recreation of a run for freedom that uses volunteer actors to help put participants in the shoes of runaway slaves, is set to begin. There will be panic - chases with howling hounds and heart-pounding dashes for cover in the dark; anger -- slaves thrown to the ground and humiliated; sorrow - real tears shed. And there will be a tangible connection made to the history of this area, a stopping point on the secret route of abolitionist safe houses used by escaped slaves on their way to Canada in the 1850s. This is the final night of the Garfield Park Nature Center's 12th season of reenactments and will be for adults only. Park manager Carl Casavecchia reminds the crew of this and asks them to turn up the intensity. As the crew sorts props, gathers long skirts together with safety pins, and counts kerosene lanterns, Mr. Casavecchia has more reminders: The effigy is hanging in the tree, don't put the slaves under the lit torches, and if someone gets hurt, the code phrase the cast should use is Moses is going to Canaan. Then the crew disperses into the woods to get in place before the 60 participants - men and women, white and African American - arrive to take the roles of slaves in 1852. Ohio was always a free state, but following passage of the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850, escaped slaves could be captured anywhere in the US. So on this night, the slaves were Canada-bound. Whether the uUncerground Railroad went through these woods isn't known, but Casavecchia says nearby Broadway Avenue was a route along which slaves were secretly transported in hay wagons into Cleveland to board Lake Erie boats bound for Canada. . . . You need to leave all things from 2008 here and go back in time, Casavecchia explains to participants. You'll meet people along the way. Can you trust them? That's up to you to decide. Some of the characters are based in history, such as the North Union Shakers who settled nearby Shaker Heights. There's also Peg Leg Joe, played by Paul Certo. He was a former sailor who worked odd jobs on plantations and taught the slaves the song, 'Follow the Drinking Gourd,' which instructs them to follow
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
SPOILERS FOR THE BOOKS In the Book (Wizards First Rule) Richard is made to read and memorize the book of shadows from a very young age. His father (Richard Cyper) made him memorize the book. Once Richard had the book memorized the book and could recite it back to his father word for word the book was destroyed. So unless they show Richard memorizing the book in a flashback I am not sure how they will reconcile the books destruction. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spoil the show, eh? Um... I don't mind... put SPOILER at the top and gimme the goods. :) Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1404676985 Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On *Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:26 PM I dont want to spoil the show, but I can say that they left out a huge chunk of information regarding Zedd, Richard, the book and George Cypher. So large that it affects the outcome of the end of the first book, and in some way each book that comes after it. The curiosity of how they are going to deal with this (flashback maybe) is the only reason I may keep watching. Jeff On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole grayson.reyescole@ yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Jeff, In the text he *doesn't* toss the book into the fire? If not, sounds like a huge misstep! The guy does seem a bit, well, wee for the part. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonr eyescole. com http://www.graysonreyescole.com/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1404676985 Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On *Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com[EMAIL PROTECTED] * wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:07 AM Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On *Sun, 11/2/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels by Terry Goodkind. I've never read them, though I have several of the books in that gotta read this someday stack. Seems they're taking it seriously: filming is primarilty down in New Zealand, with Raimi and Tapert (Hercules, Xena) as two of the executive producers, and Disney-ABC behind the distribution deal. iTunes is offering a free 30 -minute downloadable preview
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
I dont want to spoil the show, but I can say that they left out a huge chunk of information regarding Zedd, Richard, the book and George Cypher. So large that it affects the outcome of the end of the first book, and in some way each book that comes after it. The curiosity of how they are going to deal with this (flashback maybe) is the only reason I may keep watching. Jeff On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Grayson Reyes-Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Jeff, In the text he *doesn't* toss the book into the fire? If not, sounds like a huge misstep! The guy does seem a bit, well, wee for the part. Grayson Reyes-Cole http://www.graysonreyescole.com Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1404676985 Bright Star When evil is done for the greater good, a price must always be paid... Lyrical Press October 2008 --- On *Mon, 11/3/08, Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:07 AM Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On *Sun, 11/2/08, KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels by Terry Goodkind. I've never read them, though I have several of the books in that gotta read this someday stack. Seems they're taking it seriously: filming is primarilty down in New Zealand, with Raimi and Tapert (Hercules, Xena) as two of the executive producers, and Disney-ABC behind the distribution deal. iTunes is offering a free 30 -minute downloadable preview of the series, and Lucy Lawless has done a video hosting spot too. Check out the web site, it's pretty nice, with lots of video trailers you can click on, including the first ten minutes of the pilot, as well as video shorts featuring each of the major characters. In the upper right hand corner is a zip code link to let you know when it will show in your area. It debuted Saturday in many cities, and will debut today in others (Premieres at 6 pm today on WATL in Atlanta, Martin). Like the old days of Xe na, the Action Pack, etc., apparently the syndication deal will have it showing in different time slots and channels around the country. Don't know if it'll be just okay like Beastmaster , or rise to the level of Hercules and Xena when those shows were at their best, but hey--it's new spec fiction on TV, so I'll give it a shot! Gotta be better than that new Crusoe series that debuted last week! *** http://www.legendof theseeker. com/characters. htmlhttp://www.legendoftheseeker.com/characters.html *Richard Cypher* was once but a simple woodsman, an expert tracker and explorer of the trails that run through and around his home town of Hartland, located in the province known as Westland. He was well liked by the townspeople
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
Well first of all the guy is too small and too chiseled. Richard is supposed to be this big farm boy type of guy. Big enough that he is the same size if not bigger than the D'harian troops (who are supposed to be huge). He also lacks the confidence and resolve that Richard has in the books. Richard is able to see the truth in things and accpet them, the actor playing Richard seemed a bit unsure of himself and his destiny. They also seem to have left themselves with a big whole to fill with the book of shadows so I am a bit curious as to how they will deal with that, but I'm not sure if I will be able to force myself to watch another 20 episodes. Jeff On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specifically about the actor playing Richard do yoiu not like? What would be your thought for a better type of actor? -- Original message -- From: Jeff Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On *Sun, 11/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels by Terry Goodkind. I've never read them, though I have several of the books in that gotta read this someday stack. Seems they're taking it seriously: filming is primarilty down in New Zealand, with Raimi and Tapert (Hercules, Xena) as two of the executive producers, and Disney-ABC behind the distribution deal. iTunes is offering a free 30 -minute downloadable preview of the series, and Lucy Lawless has done a video hosting spot too. Check out the web site, it's pretty nice, with lots of video trailers you can click on, including the first ten minutes of the pilot, as well as video shorts featuring each of the major characters. In the upper right hand corner is a zip code link to let you know when it will show in your area. It debuted Saturday in many cities, and will debut today in others (Premieres at 6 pm today on WATL in Atlanta, Martin). Like the old days of Xe na, the Action Pack, etc., apparently the syndication deal will have it showing in different time slots and channels around the country. Don't know if it'll be just okay like Beastmaster , or rise to the level of Hercules and Xena when those shows were at their best, but hey--it's new spec fiction on TV, so I'll give it a shot! Gotta be better than that new Crusoe series that debuted last week! *** http://www.legendof theseeker. com/characters. htmlhttp://www.legendoftheseeker.com/characters.html *Richard Cypher* was once but a simple woodsman, an expert tracker and explorer of the trails that run through and around his home town of Hartland, located in the province known as Westland. He was well liked by the townspeople, and looked up to his older brother, Michael, the First Councilor. Their father, George Cypher, raised the two boys after the death of his wife. Life was an uneventful series of tasks and duties for Richard, until fate brought him together with a mysterious and captivating female, Kahlan Amnell. From a seemingly crazed old man, Zedd, the truth was soon revealed to Richard. He is a child of prophecy, the first true Seeker the world has known in a thousand years, destined to wield the powerful Sword of Truth and defeat the evil tyrant Darken Rahl. *Kahlan Amnell. *She is one of an ancient order of magical women known as Confessors. Her people are sworn to find the truth, no matter how hard someone may try to hide it. But Kahlan herself is a woman of many secrets. And her mission was to locate the Seeker, the one prophesized to defeat Darken Rahl, an evil ruler trying to enslave all in his dominion. Kahlan risked everything to find Richard Cypher. But what she didn't expect was to develop feelings for him. With a single touch, Kahlan can make anyone confess the truth. And she can command any man to do her bidding. However, those who confess to Kahlan also fall hopelessly in love with her. It is her power. It is what makes people in the Midlands respect Kahlan. Fear her
Re: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend
I have to warn everyone that if you have read the series and you really like it, try to stay away from the show. It is loosely based on the books with many differences, and in my opionion Richard is cast completly wrong (totally not what I imagined when I read the books). Jeff 2008/11/2 Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the heads up. I've set the DVR to record. it took me a minute to find the first two episodes since I had missed them and I had to do a little research to figure out what I had missed but WGN has them rerunning this week. I set up a location station to record the rest of the series. I haven't read the books and I don't know anything about it but I figured it was worth a shot. B --- On *Sun, 11/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scifinoir2] Legend of the Seeker Series Debuts This Weekend To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:33 AM Watching this series debut this weekend? It's based on the Sword of Truth novels by Terry Goodkind. I've never read them, though I have several of the books in that gotta read this someday stack. Seems they're taking it seriously: filming is primarilty down in New Zealand, with Raimi and Tapert (Hercules, Xena) as two of the executive producers, and Disney-ABC behind the distribution deal. iTunes is offering a free 30 -minute downloadable preview of the series, and Lucy Lawless has done a video hosting spot too. Check out the web site, it's pretty nice, with lots of video trailers you can click on, including the first ten minutes of the pilot, as well as video shorts featuring each of the major characters. In the upper right hand corner is a zip code link to let you know when it will show in your area. It debuted Saturday in many cities, and will debut today in others (Premieres at 6 pm today on WATL in Atlanta, Martin). Like the old days of Xe na, the Action Pack, etc., apparently the syndication deal will have it showing in different time slots and channels around the country. Don't know if it'll be just okay like Beastmaster , or rise to the level of Hercules and Xena when those shows were at their best, but hey--it's new spec fiction on TV, so I'll give it a shot! Gotta be better than that new Crusoe series that debuted last week! *** http://www.legendof theseeker. com/characters. htmlhttp://www.legendoftheseeker.com/characters.html *Richard Cypher* was once but a simple woodsman, an expert tracker and explorer of the trails that run through and around his home town of Hartland, located in the province known as Westland. He was well liked by the townspeople, and looked up to his older brother, Michael, the First Councilor. Their father, George Cypher, raised the two boys after the death of his wife. Life was an uneventful series of tasks and duties for Richard, until fate brought him together with a mysterious and captivating female, Kahlan Amnell. From a seemingly crazed old man, Zedd, the truth was soon revealed to Richard. He is a child of prophecy, the first true Seeker the world has known in a thousand years, destined to wield the powerful Sword of Truth and defeat the evil tyrant Darken Rahl. *Kahlan Amnell. *She is one of an ancient order of magical women known as Confessors. Her people are sworn to find the truth, no matter how hard someone may try to hide it. But Kahlan herself is a woman of many secrets. And her mission was to locate the Seeker, the one prophesized to defeat Darken Rahl, an evil ruler trying to enslave all in his dominion. Kahlan risked everything to find Richard Cypher. But what she didn't expect was to develop feelings for him. With a single touch, Kahlan can make anyone confess the truth. And she can command any man to do her bidding. However, those who confess to Kahlan also fall hopelessly in love with her. It is her power. It is what makes people in the Midlands respect Kahlan. Fear her. And it is Kahlan's curse, for she finds herself drawn to Richard, as he does to her. But theirs is a love that can never be fulfilled. For Kahlan must endure the lonely life of a Confessor. And her purpose is to make certain Richard realizes the destiny of the Seeker, to stop the ruthless Darken Rahl. Nothing else matters for Kahlan, not even her own happiness. This is the embodiment of pure evil, in the face and golden form of a handsome young man. *Darken Rahl* wants nothing less than total dominion over all of the free world. He has expanded his empire of tyranny far beyond his homeland of D'Hara and into the Midlands, town by town, person by person. In the words of the wizard Zedd: Rahl's cruelty, his joy in the agonizing pain of others, is equaled only by the mask of gentleness he wears to draw his victims into his spell, and then enslave them forever. Through the use of dark magic and sorcery, evil wizards, duplicitous
Re: [scifinoir2] Off Topic: Black Teachers
Sounds great, where might I find this list. Jeff On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made the list of links to 70+ multicultural education organizations about five years ago, so it might be outdated, but I'm sure it is useful -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:35 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Off Topic: Black Teachers Hi, sorry about this off topic post but I wonder if anyone knows of any organizations for black teachers, especially for black teachers in special education. thanks in advance Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
