Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread mcjennings124
Whew.  Thanks, Mr. Worf.

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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:08:05 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


They hacked the site itself, so when you clicked the url it was downloading
an Active X or Javascript that added a virus to your system. (Or some
variant of this.Keyloggers, or other crap.) Internet Explorer users are
usually hit by this kind of attack. The average user doesn't know how to
prevent this from happening. There is also the risk of the program being
smart enough to maneuver around any anti-virus software the user is running
as well.

One of the things that I always dreaded when I did tech support was summer
vacation, because as soon as there was a break a new virus would appear.
Mainly from bored hackers that are out of school.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Didn't know that!  Thanks!

 How the hell do you hack a url change program?  I'm so old-school...sigh...

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 Tinyurl was hacked a few times in the last 6 months spreading malware. I
 don't trust them anymore.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Reece Jennings 
 mcjennings...@yahoo.comwrote:



 You can use the free www.tinyurl.com and cut the size of it:

 *http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m*


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 Excellent!

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus 
 jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:



   sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

 Fate.

 p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video
 without making people cut and paste.

 --- On *Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com*wrote:


 From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
 To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM



   http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

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Re: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe

2009-08-06 Thread mcjennings124
I knew!  But I'm old!  Lol!
The movie was on AMC last year.

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:20:32 
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Subject: [scifinoir2] Get to know G.I. Joe


I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover G.I. Joe existed over twenty 
years before Hasbro remade him as a literal boy-toy.  Shoot, the movie The 
Story of G.I. Joe, starring Robert Mitchum and Burgess Meredith, came out in 
1945, a full eighteen years before Hasbro created the 11 1/2 inch realistic 
action figures Rocky and Ace.  Who knew?

~rave!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-gijoe-html,0,445585.htmlpage




Re: [scifinoir2] forget Tweetdeck -- Use HootSuite instead!

2009-08-02 Thread mcjennings124
Thanks, Lavender!

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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] forget Tweetdeck -- Use HootSuite instead!


I use Bdule. It allows you to have real updates with Facebook as well as 
Twitter. Also does not take up a lot of RAM.
--Lavender


From: Reece Jennings 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:44 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] forget Tweetdeck -- Use HootSuite instead!





I told a friend of mine about Tweetdeck, and he told me about HootSuite.

I already dumped and uninstalled Tweetdeck.  HootSuite is web-based.  Nothing 
installed
on your computer.  Plus, a lot more features!

Try HootSuite 2.0. So many cool features it will certainly make your Tweeter 
experience more enjoyable. 
 

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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

2009-07-31 Thread mcjennings124
You've got a good point, Rave.  And my dad turned me on to SF when I was very 
young, too.  I guess I just fell into the 'let them eat cake' trap, 
extrapolating from my experiences.  I hate it when I do that!  

I stand educated, sir.   :o)

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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:30:14 
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Maurice, apparently, in your forties, you were still an open-faced sandwich: 
open to new ideas and experiences. I would suggest that makes you an exception 
that proves the rule.  Most people are fairly hardwired in their tastes and 
beliefs by then. IMNSHO. 

I ask, were you a SF reader of any kind prior to discovering Octavia 
Butler two decades ago?  My entry drug was a fantasy novel called Black and 
Blue Magic by Zipha Keatley Synder (Twelve-year-old Harry Houdini Marco is 
awkward and clumsy, bearing little resemblance to his magician namesake, until 
he acquires the gift of flight. - does it get any better than that?)read when 
I was ten years old. Wow! Pow! Zoom! That book took me to the moon. Next thing 
you know I am reading Arthur C. Clarke, Samuel L. Delany and, yes, Octavia 
Butler.

As an adult few things, and mostly movies seen on the big screen(the first 
Matrix, Slumdog Millionaire), come near to affecting me that way.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, mcjennings...@... wrote:

 I'm 62!  I 'discovered'. Octavia Butler I my late 40s.  There ARE no limits 
 except the ones we put on ourselves.  Go on.  Discover and enjoy!
 
 And for me, it's still about books.  The pictures that the words create in my 
 imagination are perfect for me.  They don't need translation ore 
 interpretation.
 
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 From: ravenadal ravena...@...
 
 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:47:35 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like
 
 
 Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties?  I have always 
 considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you 
 seldom get it.  I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great 
 book to someone post thirty to only be met with a I don't read science 
 fiction.
 
 ~(no)rave!
 
 (by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold.  I am a Sir 
 Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself).
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, marian_changling md_moore42@ wrote:
 
  I am going to guess that she is in her thirties.  
  
  I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book.  Mainly because SF of 
  that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization.  I remember 
  loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now.  Now I might sit 
  back and gripe that there were no real female characters.   
  
  I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.
  
  
  
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote:
  
   Marian, the Hyperion series is about the closest I can think of in 
   comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. 
   Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend Hyperion. I would, however, 
   suggest Foundation first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's 
   age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because 
   I've advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, 
   and many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
   
   
   
   
   
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   Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
   
   Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
   
   From : marian_changling md_moore42@
   
   To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
   
   
  I have a friend who started Asimov's Foundation series because of the 
  theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 
  1940's style of writing.
   
   Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the 
   mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of 
   graphic novels and Hyperion. I never read that one; anyone know 
   anything about it? Anyone have another suggestion?
   
   
   
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
  
 






Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog Directors Address Racial Concerns

2009-07-31 Thread mcjennings124
Hollywood can't do us.  They don't KNOW us.  If you mean those who grew up 
Black who are in Hollywood, then I agree with you.  But otherwise, WE have to 
do us.

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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog 
Directors Address Racial Concerns


I agree. I think that there should be more movies with the main characters a
married black couple. Hollywood has it looking like the only black couples
out there is the Huxtables.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 See, I hear that, but I disagree with this little by little method. You
 mention Tyler perry, well he's become a multi-millionaire by doing black
 movies. Granted, the vast majority of his audience is black people, but
 that's alright by me. I guess I'm just tired of my people's stories and
 perceptions and presentations all being filtered and reworked to please
 another group's desires and likes.  I grew up in a home with two black
 parents, my wife is a black woman, I know lots of black couples who are in
 love and doing it well. You're really telling me I should just be grateful
 and patient because someone sees fit to only tell half the story, that I
 shouldn't find it offensive that in a country where most black people marry
 black people, the story is shifted just so whites will show up?
 Sorry, that bothers me. and it really bothers me because the cliche is
 still the same: black woman gets handed off to men of other races, as has
 been done for centuries. Do you think white Americans would have been okay
 had all the early Disney cartoons put Snow White, Cinderella, etc., with
 non-white men? Nope.

 At the end of the day, though, it's back to FUBU: For Us, By Us.  I guess
 until more black people pool money and resources and continue to make our
 own projects, we can't expect truly diverse presentation of our life on the
 big--or small--screen.


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 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:51:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
  Directors Address Racial Concerns



 Keith,

 Love the comments on the subject. As I was reading your post I was itching
 to respond. By the end I just have to clap and give you a pat on the back
 saying.its ok man.

 Here is another perspective.

 It is altruistic to think that an all black romantic cast will play to all
 audiences.

 Black movies consist of the following:

 'Comin up' stories/Hood to Good
 Black Love mixed with comedy

 (This excludes Spike Lee movies of course)

 So creating a movie with two black leads clearly fits within this paradigm,
 thus seemingly excluding white audiences. Be honest.most white audiences
 see an all black or partly black cast and they think either hood movie or a
 tyler perry flick.

 The transition to truly racially fluid entertainment has to be gradual. The
 key demographic, just by numbers alone has been all white and is
 transitioning to a blended look.

 Not only should we be happy that there is a black princess but we should
 rejoice. This means that the math and the money was right enough to make it
 happen...translation- Executives with big bucks accept that black characters
 have universal appeal and can be human..not just black.

 This is progressRome was not built overnight.

 c w m



 On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 They can explain all they want, but the truth of this is the Hitch
 effect: H'wood refusing to back a big romance with a man and woman of
 clearly African-American roots.  Will Smith himself said the folks behind
 Hitch didn't want a black female lead, as they feared it wouldn't draw
 whites. A white female lead--not a goal in my book to be sought--was of
 course right out.

 So it is here. It makes no sense that for the first African-American
 female lead, the male is not also African-American--or at least African.
 Why couldn't he be a rich brother from New Orleans? Why can't his family be
 wealthy? Why can't he be an African prince of purely African heritage?  All
 this talk of diversity is interesting, as it only comes up when blacks are
 involved. i don't recall Snow White, Cinderalla, Belle, Mu Lan, or any of
 the other Disney heroines being paired with a guy of an obviously different
 racial background. Oh: let me correct myself. Disney did pair one lady with
 a guy from another race. It was the story of Pochahantas and her love for a
 European.

 It troubles me, not because I'm against diversity, multi-culturalism, or
 marriages between people of different ethnicities. It troubles me simply
 because once again, when other cultures--especially whites--are allowed to
 love their 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

2009-07-30 Thread mcjennings124
I'm 62!  I 'discovered'. Octavia Butler I my late 40s.  There ARE no limits 
except the ones we put on ourselves.  Go on.  Discover and enjoy!

And for me, it's still about books.  The pictures that the words create in my 
imagination are perfect for me.  They don't need translation ore interpretation.

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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:47:35 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like


Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties?  I have always 
considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you seldom 
get it.  I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great book to 
someone post thirty to only be met with a I don't read science fiction.

~(no)rave!

(by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold.  I am a Sir 
Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself).

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, marian_changling md_moor...@... wrote:

 I am going to guess that she is in her thirties.  
 
 I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book.  Mainly because SF of 
 that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization.  I remember 
 loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now.  Now I might sit 
 back and gripe that there were no real female characters.   
 
 I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.
 
 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote:
 
  Marian, the Hyperion series is about the closest I can think of in 
  comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. 
  Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend Hyperion. I would, however, 
  suggest Foundation first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's 
  age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've 
  advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, and 
  many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
  
  
  
  
  
 -[ Received Mail Content ]--
  
  Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
  
  Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
  
  From : marian_changling md_moore42@
  
  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  
  
 I have a friend who started Asimov's Foundation series because of the 
 theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 
 1940's style of writing.
  
  Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the 
  mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic 
  novels and Hyperion. I never read that one; anyone know anything about 
  it? Anyone have another suggestion?
  
  
  
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
 






Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread mcjennings124
Hawthorne?  I like HER in it.  I like the show generally.  Her daughter is a 
bit over the top, and she's a bit of a Super-Nurse.

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:20:24 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for 
fantasy?


Has anyone watched the show that Jada star's in? What is your opinion of it?

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:00 AM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The Smiths believe in keeping it in the family.  Jada Pinkett-Smith's
 younger brother, Caleeb, has a role in Lakeview Terrace which was produced
 by husband Will Smith's Overbrook Productions.

 ~rave!
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:
 
  Her brother Jaden was really good in Pursuit of Happyness,  but
  unbearable in The Day The Earth Stood Still,  so  I'm down for
  WIllow in this, so long as Will plays her father. If Will's gonna
  direct it, that's fine too,  but it looks like the competitive nature
  of this family  results in some good results on screen.
 
 
  On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:
 
  
  
  
   Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith,
   it went pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally
   good-to-middling reviews.
  
   Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a
   fantastical drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox,
   according to The Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper
   reported it:
  
   The director is developing the project, which is being produced by
   Smith's Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct.
  
   Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street
   magician whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in
   England. In exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a
   room with magic candles and wishes to be reunited with her father,
   causing the island of Manhattan to break away and drift across the
   Pond.
  
   Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow
   —who played his on-screen kid in Legend—in City? That would make
   the family reunion complete, wouldn't it?
  
   http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php
  
  
  
 




 

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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The man who invented the Hollywood schlock machine.

2009-07-09 Thread mcjennings124
That's sick!  When???  :o)

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Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The man who invented the Hollywood schlock machine.


Who's up for an exhumation and a kangaroo trial?




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http://www.slate.com/id/2221392/


The King of All Formulas

The incredible true story of the man who invented the Hollywood schlock machine.

By Paul Collins

Posted Monday, July 6, 2009, at 7:02 AM ET

The Proposal is formulaic. The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 is formulaic. Imagine 
That is formulaic. Even Up is … progressively more formulaic.

But who came up with the formula?

If you want the human embodiment of Hollywood predictability, you can't do 
better than Wycliffe A. Hill. A profoundly obscure writer of silent 
five-reelers, Hill is also the unheralded inventor of something more enduring: 
the attempt to engineer movies that will bring the most satisfaction to the 
largest number of people—the mob, in other words.

It was a notion borne of failure. After a hard-knocks apprenticeship in a 
Manhattan literary agency, Hill went to Hollywood in 1915, where his first 
movie pitch was summarily shot down by Cecil B. DeMille. The problem? No plot. 
A dramatic plot, DeMille's brother patiently explained to Hill, is where 
someone wants something, something stands in the way of his getting it, he 
tries to get it and either does or does not.

DeMille's prodding was perfectly timed; Hill wandered into a bookshop and found 
the new translation of French critic Georges Polti's Thirty-Six Dramatic 
Situations. If you've ever endured a teacher bloviating on how there are only 
really X number of plots in literature, blame Polti. A theatre critic, he 
gamely ran with the claim that Italian playwright Carlo Gozzi had once 
succeeded in isolating 36 tragic situations that formed the building blocks 
of drama. (Naturally, Gozzi then lost his list.) Polti had a recent and 
lesser-known work that had not yet been translated, The Art of Inventing 
Characters, which handily presented 36 archetypes. While Polti's books were 
largely descriptive, Hill hit upon a notion: What if they were combined and 
made prescriptive?

What if together they made … a formula?

Hill's Ten Million Photoplay Plots: The Master Key to All Dramatic Plots, a 
byzantine matrix of characters and conflicts designed to create endless plot 
combinations, was so novel when it debuted in 1919 that the slim guide sold for 
an eye-popping $5. Quietly lifting from Polti, Hill created mix-and-match lists 
of characters, settings, and dramatic situations. (An old man wrongfully 
accused of a mine explosion + seeks refuge from a band of outlaws + with a 
woman whose house he enters for a hiding place. + …) It was the perfect 
instrument for the silent movies being churned out on Hollywood lots.






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Re: [scifinoir2] Serenity

2009-06-20 Thread mcjennings124
I'm on a bus job.  It's waiting for later.

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:13:42 
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Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity


Reece,

did u like it?  really good uncut isn't it?

Fate?

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 1:27 PM
















  
  


That's 
ok.  I don't buy.  It's 2.99 to rent.  That's fine for me!  
:o)
 



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[mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin 
Baxter
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scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] 
Serenity






  
  
Reece, wish I'd been here sooner! It's $12 at 
  Target, as of two weeks ago..





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Serenity
Date : Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:57:25 -0400
From : 
Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
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I just rented it from 
Amazon. Downloading now on TIVO. 

_ 

From: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
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Behalf Of Augustus 
Augustus 
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Serenity 







forget the SciFi channel of it. grab the DVD 
and watch it uncut. i tried 2 
watch it on SciFi, but they butchered 
it with cuts here and there. 

Fate. 

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From: mcjennings124@ yahoo.com 

Subject: [scifinoir2] Serenity 
To: SciFi2 

Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:15 PM 



I 
just watched this movie on the SciFi channel. I liked it! Anybody else 
see 
it? 

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[scifinoir2] Serenity

2009-06-19 Thread mcjennings124
I just watched this movie on the SciFi channel.  I liked it!  Anybody else see 
it?

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-17 Thread mcjennings124
Good.  And Jada was wonderful.  Like a lot of new shows, it's going to have to 
develop, but she's certainly worth the look.

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Reece, I understand that he did respect her, very much so. Mind you, this is 
all, at best, tenth-hand intel.

And I plan on catching Hawthorne, if I'm conscious at that time. Today's been 
bumpy in spots, and the bed's talking to me already.




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Sigh...well, at least I hope he respected her behind closed doors. 

I'm watching the last half hour of Lonesome Dove. I'm finding lots of good TV 
since I cut out all 3-digit channels.

Anybody planning to watch Jada Pinkett's new series Hawthorne?

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:27:40 
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None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
KEROOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of her 
made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry did *more* 
than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way *all* men wish 
they could've.




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No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore without a 
remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 months in the 
Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is Uhura. Lawd! 
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And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
chauvinism, but she was gorgeous!

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote:


From: Adrianne Brennan 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM








I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 

~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal wrote:

Beware of the Disposable Negro Effect which is akin to the butterfly 
effect. You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and all 
heck breaks loose. I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's Day of 
Absence where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white folks don't 
have a clue as to what to do?

I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek. You would think 
she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone, but it 
totally ignores the fact that her showing up on the bridge everyday in those 
boots and that mini-skirt made the mens, James T. and the rest of dem, happy - 
heck - eager to come to work. Remove Uhura and it gone get snarly, snarky and 
plum ugly up in there quick and in a hurry.

~rave!


--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, George Arterberry wrote:

 Please list the greatest disposible Negroes in sci-fi.What is a disposible 
 Negro you ask? Well if he or she is removed from the storyline it wont change 
 one iota. I'll nominate Anastasia Dee Dualla and her totally uncalled for 
 suicide in Battlestar Galactica.
 
 I mean we needed at least some sisters in modern-day Tanzinia to help 
 repopulate the human race.
 
 There are so many others to list,where do i start?





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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-17 Thread mcjennings124
Not SF, Lauren.  She's a Registered Nurse, but I liked her in the last episode 
of...crap, brain fart...what's the trilogy?  She was a captain and pilot.  
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From: Michelle Lauren miche...@michellelaurenbooks.com

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:15:58 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list


Is this show supposed to be science fiction? I saw Jada on the cover of my 
local TV guide, but I didn't watch the show. I think Jada is a good actress; 
she seems to be very choosy about what roles she takes, which I respect in any 
actor/actress. 

However, because she doesn't appear in films as often as some, I'm not quite 
sure about her acting ability. I've seen her in two comedies and in the TV show 
A Different World. However, despite the differences in the characters, her 
acting remained very similar and somewhat reserved.

I'll try to tune in to see what the show is about.

Michelle Lauren
**Purchase my multicultural scifi romance Starstruck: Hunter thru 6/30 for a 
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 I'm reserving judgement, especially since Jada is the exec producer.  That's 
 the only reason I'm going to look!  
 
 
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 From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@...
 
 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:21:54 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
 
 
 I have it on Tivo ,but do we need another medical show? City of Angels 
 should have been the standard bearer of a black drama in prime time and it 
 was set up to fail.
  
 Maybe True Blood will have a spin off with the sister in the lead?  
 
 --- On Tue, 6/16/09, mcjennings...@... mcjennings...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: mcjennings...@... mcjennings...@...
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
 To: SciFi2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 11:39 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sigh...well, at least I hope he respected her behind closed doors. 
 
 I'm watching the last half hour of Lonesome Dove. I'm finding lots of good TV 
 since I cut out all 3-digit channels.
 
 Anybody planning to watch Jada Pinkett's new series Hawthorne?
 
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 From: Martin Baxter 
 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:27:40 -0400 (EDT)
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
 KER OOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of 
 her made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry did 
 *more* than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way *all* 
 men wish they could've.
 
 
 
 
 
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 No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore without 
 a remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 months in 
 the Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is Uhura. Lawd! 
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 From: C.W. Badie 
 
 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
 
 
 And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
 chauvinism, but she was gorgeous!
 
 --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote:
 
 
 From: Adrianne Brennan 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~
 http://www.adrianne brennan.com
 Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ botdm.html
 Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ bamc.html
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal wrote:
 
 Beware of the Disposable Negro Effect which is akin to the butterfly 
 effect.  You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and 
 all heck breaks loose.  I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's Day 
 of Absence where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white folks 
 don't have a clue as to what to do?
 
 I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek.  You would 
 think she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone, but 
 it totally ignores

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-17 Thread mcjennings124
Nice analysis, Keith.

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From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:48:22 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list


I watched Hawthorne. It has potential. I like Smith's character loved what 
she did to her daughter! If they can carve out more uniqueness to the role and 
be sure to create a character that's Pinkett, and avoid the show being just 
another medical drama, then it can be really good. I like most of the 
characters, though the dude from Alias is a bit too obvious seeming in his 
role: the handsome young doctor who's sensitive and all that. Too Grey's 
Anatomy or George Clooney for me. Hoping a Brother gets a role other than the 
walk on doctor, or the dude who had the grave illness. Nice seeing so many 
women get the spotlight, but that's one thing cable shows give us (The Closer, 
Saving Grave, In Plain Sight, Army Wives) that's not always as prevalent on the 
so-called broadcast channels. 
Enjoyable show overall. 

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Sigh...well, at least I hope he respected her behind closed doors. 

I'm watching the last half hour of Lonesome Dove. I'm finding lots of good TV 
since I cut out all 3-digit channels. 

Anybody planning to watch Jada Pinkett's new series Hawthorne? 


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From : Martin Baxter 
Date : Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:27:40 -0400 (EDT) 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 





None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
KEROOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of her 
made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry did *more* 
than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way *all* men wish 
they could've. 






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No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore without a 
remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 months in the 
Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is Uhura. Lawd! 
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From: C.W. Badie 

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39 
To: 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 


And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
chauvinism, but she was gorgeous! 

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote: 


From: Adrianne Brennan 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM 








I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 

~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
http://www.adrianne brennan.com 
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html 
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html 
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath 



On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal wrote: 

Beware of the Disposable Negro Effect which is akin to the butterfly 
effect. You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and all 
heck breaks loose. I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's Day of 
Absence where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white folks don't 
have a clue as to what to do? 

I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek. You would think 
she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone, but it 
totally ignores the fact that her showing up on the bridge everyday in those 
boots and that mini-skirt made the mens, James T. and the rest of dem, happy - 
heck - eager to come to work. Remove Uhura and it gone get snarly, snarky and 
plum ugly up in there quick and in a hurry. 

~rave! 


--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, George Arterberry wrote: 
 
 Please list the greatest disposible Negroes in sci-fi.What is a disposible 
 Negro you ask? Well if he or she is removed from the storyline it wont change 
 one iota. I'll nominate Anastasia Dee Dualla and her totally uncalled for 
 suicide in Battlestar Galactica. 
 
 I mean we needed at least some sisters in modern-day Tanzinia to help 
 repopulate the human race. 
 
 There are so many others to list,where do i start? 
 




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[scifinoir2] Jada in the Matrix.

2009-06-17 Thread mcjennings124
NCIS jogged my memory.  She was a Captain and pilot in The Matrix.

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Re: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
Ok.  :o)

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:32:28 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?


DEATH TO COMCRAP!!!

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 8:31 AM









HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Well, it's a fair trade.  I get to carry my gun, protect me and
my neighbors, and get a good signal!
 



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Behalf Of Martin Baxter
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Reece, now I *know* that Deity loves you!





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I live in the city of Hartford, and most of Connecticut is pretty well 
covered. 
I don't know what signal loss is... 

_ 

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In my area signal loss happens multiple times a day now. Basically it is 
complete signal loss on all channels anywhere from a few seconds to a few 
minutes. It happened during the playoffs a couple of years ago and I missed 
the last 30 seconds of the game!!! Do you have this problem where you live? 







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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
Yup!  I forgot to turn on the sarcasm!  LOL!

Cathodes and anodes and tubes on the testers.

TV went off at the crack of evening. 

I remember Winky Dinkn Box 5, New York 19, NY.

Buffalo Bob, Clarabelle, 3 channels,  Ed Sullivan (a really great sh!)

But some days I can't remember my name!


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From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:15:42 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV


You know better than that, Reece...remember the glass tubes built into the 
chassis...and pre-remote TVs?

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 7:08 PM









Yes!  A, the good old days!



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:28 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
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I remember transisters the size of pencil erasers, but big as a coin??? Wow! Of 
course I remember when integrated circuits went from less than a dozen to 
dozens, hundreds, thousands, than millions of transistors on a single board.

 I had an electronics kit from Radio Shack that gave me many hours of fun.. I 
had those bulky walkie-talkies when I was a kid, and I sure remember watching 
with interest when the TV repairman (remember when we had those???) pulled out 
the guts of the TV. Man those tubes were fascinating to me. Remember taking a 
tube out of the TV and going to the grocery store and plugging it into a tester 
to see if it was good? How about the days of giving the TV a few moments to 
warm up before the picture appeared?


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  They're still around, disguised as HDTVs with their 
converters.  Heck ALL of mine
are Big-a$$ CRTs!  I don't plan to change them, either!
 
When I was in Air Force electronics school in 1967, we learned about how CRTs 
worked, then we learned about
transistors.  THAT was some transition.  Transistors looked like 3-legged 
spiders, and they averaged a size of
about a quarter to a fifty-cent piece.  I remember NO TV ( I was 5), the 
transition to color.  People are slow to change
even in the face of deadlines!  LOL!
 


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Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:15 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
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I'm gonna miss those big-a$$ cathode-ray tubes, personally.. . ;-)





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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Robot Rebellion is only a matter of time

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
Man, I The Forbin Project...sigh.  I recorded that movie with my brand new VCR 
with the wired remote.  A power failure wiped out the last 15 minutes of the 
movie.  I hunted for 3 years until I found it again.  I REALLY appreciate 
Amazon and movie downloads, whatever the source now.  YouTube, Ipods...who had 
any idea?

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From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:48:22 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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I'd Absolutely love to see an update on Colossus: The Forbin 
Project...Actually, the entire trilogy as three miniseries...

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The Robot Rebellion is only a matter of time
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 3:17 PM












I've seen this one coming for years. A story about robotics that always sticks 
in my mind is one about a Guv'mint-sponsored project to create robots able to 
escape and evade. The resulting 'bots were so good that they kept escaping, no 
matter how well the prison was designed.

Still, I'm not worried. Let's see the little buggers beat an EMP device.





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www.chicagotribune. com/entertainmen t/chi-0611- robotjun11, 0,1485574. story 

chicagotribune. com 

THE ROBOT REBELLION IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. FOR NOW ... 

 Don't trust the trumpet player 

By Christopher Borrelli 

Tribune reporter 

June 11, 2009 

Gina Holechko figures humans have 50 years left -- 100, if we're lucky. After 
that, the robots become self-aware and harvest our skins to build hammocks. 
Think Transformers with the animosity of the Terminators. 

Holechko is president of the Chicago Speculative Science Fiction Writers Group. 
She speculates, and so a few days before I headed to the Robots and Vision 
Motion Control Show in Rosemont, I called her, and she told me: It's 
unfortunate Hollywood thinks about robots going rogue and murdering people 
without considering how a takeover might actually happen -- little by little, 
until we become comfortable. You talk to an automated voice to pay your phone 
bill? It's that kind of pervasiveness. What scares me is the shell they put on 
them now. We used to see the insides of our computers. Now you don't know 
what's going on. Go to the show, and look for the ghost in the machine. The 
ghost in the machine is your concern. 

The soul, in a sense. 

The RVMCS is the robotics industry's big gathering. It ends today and is not 
open to the public. But I went, and I asked about the truth behind the coming 
robot uprising, and (this is chilling), quite often, people smiled, then began 
to consider the question -- a guy from Sony (however facetiously) told me that 
when the inevitable robot war happens, he hopes every killer robot is using a 
Sony camera for its optical system. 

An engineer from Flint confided: The day of self-awareness in robots? I think 
about that every day. 

A salesman from South Korea with an $800 robot man explained his robots are not 
far enough along to think for themselves, but -- Maybe 40 years from now? He 
put the foot-tall man down. It stepped forward, balanced on one foot, waved, 
balanced on the other foot. I asked him if it ever falls. He pushed at the 
robot's chest. It toppled back. Then, after a second, as if it were fuming, it 
kicked its legs out, planted its feet and rose. Are we sowing seeds of our 
destruction, I asked. 

Half and half, he said. 

Robot holocaust? 

Oh, it's coming. 

A Hal 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey with the people skills of a Robocop -- 
only everywhere, self-aware and self-replicating? It may be our most durable 
science-fiction scenario: Technology rises up to destroy us -- played out every 
summer in movie theaters -- but at the moment, a remarkable number of engineers 
and robotics companies and theorists have been giving serious consideration to 
the thought of self-aware robots with an intelligence and agility that 
uncomfortably surpasses our own. 

Actually, Holechko aside, it's the pop-culture folks I spoke with who gave a 
robot holocaust the least consideration. Before the show, I talked to Rusty 
Nails (his real name), who hosts the annual sci-fi festival at the Music Box 
Theatre. He cited the robot stories of Philip K. Dick (such as Do Androids 
Dream of Electric Sheep? which was adapted into Blade Runner) as inspiration 
but said, We'll destroy ourselves before robots get a shot. I spoke with 
Scott Farrar of Industrial Light  Magic, the effects supervisor on the new 
Transformers film and the forward-seeing A.I. and Minority Report. 

He's not seeing it. 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
No chauvinism in recognizing beauty.  I was flipping channels (a chore without 
a remote), and I saw her at that console.  I was just back from 18 months in 
the Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women.  And here is Uhura.  Lawd! 
 
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From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list


And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
chauvinism, but she was gorgeous!

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM








I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 

~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath



On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com wrote:

Beware of the Disposable Negro Effect which is akin to the butterfly 
effect.  You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and all 
heck breaks loose.  I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's Day of 
Absence where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white folks don't 
have a clue as to what to do?

I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek.  You would think 
she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone, but it 
totally ignores the fact that her showing up on the bridge everyday in those 
boots and that mini-skirt made the mens,   James T. and the rest of dem, happy 
- heck - eager to come to work.  Remove Uhura and it gone get snarly, snarky 
and plum ugly up in there quick and in a hurry.

~rave!


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wrote:

 Please list the greatest disposible Negroes in sci-fi.What is a disposible 
 Negro you ask? Well if he or she is removed from the storyline it wont change 
 one iota. I'll nominate Anastasia Dee Dualla and her totally uncalled for 
 suicide in Battlestar Galactica.
  
 I mean we needed at least some sisters in modern-day Tanzinia to help 
 repopulate the human race.
  
 There are so many others to list,where do i start?





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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Deadliest Warrior Marathon on SpikeTV

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
Yeah, but was he the master of psy-war, or what?  I almost felt sorry for the 
Boers and Englanders when they looked up and around and saw the MASSIVE numbers 
of true warriors they were facing.  But it was hard to stop laughing.  I kept 
thinking about George Headstrong Custer!
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It didn't hurt that they had standardized training and weaponry either...guns 
were a hard to come by commodity in 19th century South Africa...No one was 
going to sell firearms...not even obsolete firearms to a warlord like Shaka 
Zulu...

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 1:35 PM








I did some research way back when on Zulu warfare way back when and I was 
impressed on how great their tactics were. If they could have mastered the gun 
the history of southern Africa might have played out a bit differently.

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To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
 
.Or the fact that The Zulu nation gave Victoria's best a good run for their 
money in South Africa...I met King Goodwill Zulu in high school when he visited 
the states...never met a met who killed a lion until then...
 
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 Have to agree with you there, pal. Tactics often do supplant superior numbers 
 and technology.
 
 
 
 
 
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 JUst looked at an excerpt of William Wallace Vs. Shaka Zulu...from a quick 
 observation, Wallace would probably come out on top one on one, But Shaka's 
 tactics en masse would probably give Wallace's army a very bad time...too 
 many factors are against a decisive win for Shaka: Strictly footsoldiers 
 against archers, lancers and horsemen...both use that 'berzerker' style of 
 overrunning and overwhelming their enemies, but while Wallace had the better 
 technology, Zulu had more cunning tactics... 
 
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 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Deadliest Warrior Marathon on SpikeTV 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
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 I know, Keith, but, everytime I hear them say that, I think, They really 
 haven't had much real-world experience in violence-related issues because 
 I've seen things that'll make your hair UNcurl. The frying-pan/chairs 
 incident was back in my early days here in Atlanta, when I was out with some 
 friends at a bar in Buckhead. A fight broke out between one of my friends and 
 some guy, because of disparaging remarks directed at a young lady. I got hit 
 because I was trying to get that young lady out of harm's way. I've also seen 
 a man take two shots from a .38 in the chest, almost point-blank, and still 
 keep going, requiring four cops to subdue and arrest him. And he lived, still 
 lives. (Don't know what the circumstances of that were -- I was only nine 
 years old, and happened across the end of it when I s! tepped off the 
 schoolbus.) And those memoirs are all sitting in my head, waiting for the 
 time to be written down. 
 
 
 
 
 
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 yeah, I'm aware of that. But during the testing, they made a big deal out of 
 how both of those devices could crush a person's skull. The doctor is always 
 saying That's a killing blow. You'll be dead before you hit the ground. I 
 get glancing blows not bringing the full force, of course, but in both cases 
 these were pretty much full on. Given what happened to the practice dummy, 
 one expects to see blood, brains, and bone fragments flying. 
 Either way, do tell more about your younger days. Sounds quite interesting! 
 
 
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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
I DO treasure them, Martin!  I get a chuckle just competing for them.  They 
have a special place in my house.  :o)

Next to my police awards...

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:21:34 
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Reece, where *do* you put all of these First Laugh of the Morn Awards I give 
you? :-D




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Yup! I forgot to turn on the sarcasm! LOL!

Cathodes and anodes and tubes on the testers.

TV went off at the crack of evening. 

I remember Winky Dinkn Box 5, New York 19, NY.

Buffalo Bob, Clarabelle, 3 channels, Ed Sullivan (a really great sh!)

But some days I can't remember my name!


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You know better than that, Reece...remember the glass tubes built into the 
chassis...and pre-remote TVs?

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Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 7:08 PM









Yes!  A, the good old days!



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Behalf Of Keith Johnson
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I remember transisters the size of pencil erasers, but big as a coin??? Wow! Of 
course I remember when integrated circuits went from less than a dozen to 
dozens, hundreds, thousands, than millions of transistors on a single board.

 I had an electronics kit from Radio Shack that gave me many hours of fun.. I 
had those bulky walkie-talkies when I was a kid, and I sure remember watching 
with interest when the TV repairman (remember when we had those???) pulled out 
the guts of the TV. Man those tubes were fascinating to me. Remember taking a 
tube out of the TV and going to the grocery store and plugging it into a tester 
to see if it was good? How about the days of giving the TV a few moments to 
warm up before the picture appeared?


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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:26:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  They're still around, disguised as HDTVs with their 
converters.  Heck ALL of mine
are Big-a$$ CRTs!  I don't plan to change them, either!
 
When I was in Air Force electronics school in 1967, we learned about how CRTs 
worked, then we learned about
transistors.  THAT was some transition.  Transistors looked like 3-legged 
spiders, and they averaged a size of
about a quarter to a fifty-cent piece.  I remember NO TV ( I was 5), the 
transition to color.  People are slow to change
even in the face of deadlines!  LOL!
 


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I'm gonna miss those big-a$$ cathode-ray tubes, personally.. . ;-)





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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
Sigh...well, at least I hope he respected her behind closed doors.  

I'm watching the last half hour of Lonesome Dove.  I'm finding lots of good TV 
since I cut out all 3-digit channels.

Anybody planning to watch Jada Pinkett's new series Hawthorne?

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:27:40 
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None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
KEROOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of her 
made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry did *more* 
than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way *all* men wish 
they could've.




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No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore without a 
remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 months in the 
Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is Uhura. Lawd! 
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And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
chauvinism, but she was gorgeous!

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From: Adrianne Brennan 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM








I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 

~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal  wrote:

Beware of the Disposable Negro Effect which is akin to the butterfly 
effect.  You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and all 
heck breaks loose.  I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's Day of 
Absence where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white folks don't 
have a clue as to what to do?

I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek.  You would think 
she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone, but it 
totally ignores the fact that her showing up on the bridge everyday in those 
boots and that mini-skirt made the mens,   James T. and the rest of dem, happy 
- heck - eager to come to work.  Remove Uhura and it gone get snarly, snarky 
and plum ugly up in there quick and in a hurry.

~rave!


--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, George Arterberry  wrote:

 Please list the greatest disposible Negroes in sci-fi.What is a disposible 
 Negro you ask? Well if he or she is removed from the storyline it wont change 
 one iota. I'll nominate Anastasia Dee Dualla and her totally uncalled for 
 suicide in Battlestar Galactica.
  
 I mean we needed at least some sisters in modern-day Tanzinia to help 
 repopulate the human race.
  
 There are so many others to list,where do i start?





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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-16 Thread mcjennings124
I'm reserving judgement, especially since Jada is the exec producer.  That's 
the only reason I'm going to look!  


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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:21:54 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list


I have it on Tivo ,but do we need another medical show? City of Angels 
should have been the standard bearer of a black drama in prime time and it was 
set up to fail.
 
Maybe True Blood will have a spin off with the sister in the lead?  

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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
To: SciFi2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 11:39 AM








Sigh...well, at least I hope he respected her behind closed doors. 

I'm watching the last half hour of Lonesome Dove. I'm finding lots of good TV 
since I cut out all 3-digit channels.

Anybody planning to watch Jada Pinkett's new series Hawthorne?

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From: Martin Baxter 
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:27:40 -0400 (EDT)
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list







None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
KER OOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of her 
made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry did *more* 
than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way *all* men wish 
they could've.





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No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore without a 
remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 months in the 
Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is Uhura. Lawd! 
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And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
chauvinism, but she was gorgeous!

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote:


From: Adrianne Brennan 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM








I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 

~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath



On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal wrote:

Beware of the Disposable Negro Effect which is akin to the butterfly 
effect.  You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and all 
heck breaks loose.  I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's Day of 
Absence where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white folks don't 
have a clue as to what to do?

I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek.  You would think 
she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone, but it 
totally ignores the fact that her showing up on the bridge everyday in those 
boots and that mini-skirt made the mens,   James T. and the rest of dem, happy 
- heck - eager to come to work.  Remove Uhura and it gone get snarly, snarky 
and plum ugly up in there quick and in a hurry.

~rave!


--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, George Arterberry wrote:

 Please list the greatest disposible Negroes in sci-fi.What is a disposible 
 Negro you ask? Well if he or she is removed from the storyline it wont change 
 one iota. I'll nominate Anastasia Dee Dualla and her totally uncalled for 
 suicide in Battlestar Galactica.
  
 I mean we needed at least some sisters in modern-day Tanzinia to help 
 repopulate the human race.
  
 There are so many others to list,where do i start?





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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

2009-06-02 Thread mcjennings124
Thanks for this, Gunny.  Makes me proud, and I'm sure it makes dad proud, too.

I thought about the Eastwood thing, too, and you're right.  He had a stand to 
take, and he blew it.

I watched 'Driving Miss Daisy' a couple of days ago.  There was a scene where 
Mr. Freeman drove the lady to hear MLK speak.  She wanted to ask him to take 
her, but she didn't.

MLK speech?  It was directed at the silent people...those who knew the right 
thing, but did nothing...very to the point...

Maybe Clint could use the lesson...

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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 04:54:20 
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Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!


Reece,

when a friend of mine (Master Sergeant J. Malone, 2d Recon. USMC) saw an 
advance screening with a few other special operators 2 see the show, he told us 
the same thing.  matter of fact, they walked out 1 hour into it.  they were 
caught outside and asked y they were leaving (they were in 
Uniform...special guest and all) they told them that non of the Marines 
depicted were of color.  no color.  director eastwood said that that was a 
concern of his, but the studio execs overruled him.  personally, i think that 
if your name is Clint Eastwood, then u have a stronger voice than some up and 
coming director.   but that's just me.

Dr. Fate
a.k.a.   Gunnery Sergeant Sammie Bibb, 2d Recon. Batt. USMC

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From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 10:56 PM
















  
  


Have you 
seen 'Flags of our Fathers'?  Same thing, with all Marines shown as 
white.



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
[mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Keith 
Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:28 AM
To: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY 
DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama 
Captain! !!





I'm not a 
veteran, yet I agree with you. When I heard that about the Brother, I decided 
not to see that movie...

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From: Augustus 
Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com
To: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:14:28 PM GMT 
-05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE 
THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama 
Captain! !!









  
  
Trace,

that is the exact reason that i have yet to watch 
  and never will watch world trade center.  the nick cage movie about 
  the firefighters.  there was a Marine (and u know how i feel about my 
  beloved United States Marine Corps - Ohh Rah!) who was pivotal in helping 
  the fire fighters and getting the people organized in the rescue 
  effort.  he was a Black Marine and in the movie they used a white 
  guy.  they producers later said right b4 it was released - when they 
  started getting flak about it, that they did not know his skin color and 
  that they only assumed that he was white.  that pissed me off even 
  more.  2 me they were saying that they just assume that all heroic 
  figures are White!  damn.

Fate.

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From: 
Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com
Subject: RE: 
[RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral 
Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
To: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 5:58 
PM






This was posted when it 
happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the morning when I posted 
it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling her role will 
not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be downplayed and 
not Black.  I hope I am wrong
 


From: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 
2:47 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: 
[RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral 
Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
 





  
  

  Martin, 

you are right.  we did 
  this when it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this 
  one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter 
  truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote:
  
From: Martin 

Re: [scifinoir2] Eye catching

2009-05-14 Thread mcjennings124
I have to wait until you're asleep.  Then I'm going to kill you!
Can't do it while you're awake. You're a Marine!!!
LOL!

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From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:14:42 
To: Sci Fiscifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; Sammie Bibbsbi...@gmail.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Eye catching


A man is dining in a fancy restaurant and there is a gorgeous redhead
sitting at the next table. He has been checking her out since he sat down,
but lacks the nerve to talk with her. 
 
Suddenly she sneezes, and her glass eye comes flying out of its socket
toward the man. He reflexively  reaches out, grabs it out of the air, and
hands it back. 
 
'Oh my, I am so sorry,' the woman says as she pops her eye back in place. 
 
 
'Let me buy your dinner to make it up to you,' she says. 
 
 
They enjoy a wonderful dinner together, and afterwards they go to the
theatre followed by drinks. They talk, they laugh, she shares her deepest
dreams and he shares his. She listens. 
 
After paying for everything, she asks him if he would like to come to her
place for a nightcap and stay for breakfast. They had a wonderful, wonderful
time. 
 
The next morning, she cooks a gourmet meal with all the trimmings. The guy
is amazed. Everything had been SO incredible!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
You know,' he said, 'you are the perfect woman. Are you this nice to every
guy you meet?' 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
'No,' she replies. . .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Wait for it. . .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
It's coming. . .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The suspense is killing you, isn't it? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
She says: 
 
 
 
 
 
'You just happened to catch my eye.' 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
(Oh shut up, and just forward it!) 


  


[scifinoir2] BSG

2009-04-15 Thread mcjennings124
Well,
I bought BSG's 3 hour pilot, and seasons 1 and 2.

I have given up food, work, and sex.  I just found the Pegasus...burp...

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Re: [scifinoir2] BSG

2009-04-15 Thread mcjennings124
Kane and Adama!!! Holy Crap!!!

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Subject: [scifinoir2] BSG


Well,
I bought BSG's 3 hour pilot, and seasons 1 and 2.

I have given up food, work, and sex.  I just found the Pegasus...burp...

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Re: [scifinoir2] BSG

2009-04-15 Thread mcjennings124
I'll say!  And I think I've started saying 'Frack!'

:o)

PS: Still 5 season 2 episodes to go.  Considering that others might want to 
watch, I'm not doing spoilers.

Now THESE folks might do Octavia Butler's characters justice!  I'm truly 
impressed with the depth of the characters AND the short and long-term plots.

It WOULD have been nice to see at least one Black man in a lead role.  Or at 
least not in the stereotypical roles...prison guard, Black Market leader.  And 
the few strong Black men were tamed by religion.  Heck, even Adama, with all of 
his love and compassion, was not a believer in the Gods.

But I am rambling.  Back to the episodes!  Huzzah!

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:22:48 
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Yes, my friend! Wasn't *that* a p*ssing contest for the decade?




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Kane and Adama!!! Holy Crap!!!

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:19:58 
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Well,
I bought BSG's 3 hour pilot, and seasons 1 and 2.

I have given up food, work, and sex. I just found the Pegasus...burp...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds


Re: [RE][scifinoir2] BSG

2009-04-15 Thread mcjennings124
LOLLOL!

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LMNAO!!! As long as The Beast respects you in the morning...




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Well,
I bought BSG's 3 hour pilot, and seasons 1 and 2.

I have given up food, work, and sex. I just found the Pegasus...burp...

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Re: [scifinoir2] Jill Scott Stars in New HBO Series

2009-03-29 Thread mcjennings124
Anika Noni Rose went to high school in Bloomfield, CT where I was a cop and 
lived for 19 years.  She is an awesome lady.  Thanks for this info.

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:33:35 
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Subject: [scifinoir2] Jill Scott Stars in New HBO Series


Wow, this almost makes me wish I still had HBO. I've never heard of this 
before. I love both Jill Scott and Anika Noni Rose, and the fact that Anthony 
Minghella and Sydney Pollack were attached is intriguing. A bit of trivia: I 
noticed a black actor from the trailer that looked familiar. Sure enough, it 
was David Oyelowo, who played MI-5 agent Danny Hunter in the British series 
Spooks (renamed MI-5 for American television). 

Those of you with HBO, let me know how it is. I believe it aired last night 

*** 


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-ladies28-2009mar28,0,2564010.story 
Keeping HBO's 'The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency' true to its author and to 
Africa 



By Greg Braxton 
March 28, 2009 The last time HBO built a series around primarily female 
characters, the show was Sex and the City and it revolved around four white 
women exploring the mysteries of love in the wilds of New York City. 

Now the premium cable network is launching another female-centric show,  The 
No. 1 Ladies’ Detective Agency , and it's about two black women investigating 
the mysteries within the wilds of Africa. 

In tone, feel and locale, the new series, starring singer Jill Scott and Anika 
Noni Rose , couldn't be more different from its female-themed predecessor or 
from any other of HBO's previous hit shows, like Deadwood, Six Feet Under 
or The Sopranos. 

The leisurely-paced crime drama centers on a caring, plump businesswoman who 
has little time for men and operates in a world where whites are all but 
invisible. The show will be distinct -- a drama with an all-black cast -- and 
also will be unique in American television as the only series ever set in 
Africa in which none of the protagonists is white. 

Though obviously enthusiastic about their new project, HBO's executives 
acknowledge the risk in departing from their recognized brand of provocative 
themes, and explicit sex and violence. The new series stars the Grammy-winning 
Scott, a relative newcomer to acting, whose character speaks English with a 
distinctly Botswanan dialect. Also, the drama, despite its crime-solving 
conceit, contains little violence, no sex and no profanity. 

In fact, it is the first original HBO series that is family-friendly enough to 
air at 8 p.m. 

This is definitely a little different from what we usually do, said Michael 
Lombardo, president of HBO's programming group. But it speaks to what we're 
always looking for: distinct points of view that are smart and well executed, 
and presents something that people will not see on ad-supported television. 

Based on a bestselling series of books by Alexander McCall Smith, The No. 1 
Ladies' Detective Agency turns on Scott, who is the caring and relentlessly 
hopeful Precious Ramotswe. Thanks to skills fostered by her father, she decides 
to open the only female-owned detective agency in Botswana. (Rose plays her 
quirky, no-nonsense secretary, Grace Makutsi.) 

This is the first time a series or a feature film has been built around an 
oversized black female who is experienced in life, and is not a wife or 
mother, Lombardo said. She's not in a relationship with a man -- she's fully 
independent. 

Scott was found after an extensive search for the role and studied two months 
to nail the proper African accent. 

I wasn't intimidated by the acting, said Scott, whose most noteworthy role 
previous to the series was as a fat woman who is dumped by her husband in Why 
Did I Get Married? Ever since I was young, I would dress up, try to make 
myself cry. I've always been acting. 

The series boasts an impressive, though bittersweet, pedigree: the two-hour 
pilot was the last project directed by Oscar-winner director Anthony Minghella 
(The English Patient), who died in 2008 from complications after surgery for 
tonsil cancer. The project also lost executive producer Sydney Pollack, the 
Oscar-winning director of Out of Africa, who died after him last year. 

Anthony wanted Precious to be really genuine, and he would talk to me all the 
time about how she had to be really hopeful, said Scott, whose character is 
haunted by an abusive relationship that resulted in the death of her infant. I 
just hope it succeeds exactly the way Anthony wanted it to. He loved me, and I 
loved him right back. 

The show's executive producers are Bob and Harvey Weinstein. The Weinstein Co. 
and the BBC are producing partners for the drama, which is already airing in 
Britain. 

Adapting the books was a labor of love for Minghella, who was determined to 
show a softer, more even-handed portrait 

Re: [scifinoir2] (unknown)

2009-03-07 Thread mcjennings124
Thank you, Aubrey.  YIKES!  Power just came back!  How did you do that???  Lol!!
Gotta go start my clothes dryer again.  

Thanks for the company!

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Aww Maurice, I'm editing right now, but I'm here to keep you company on your 
blackberry! :) Thanks for being my new facebook buddy!

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:57:52 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] (unknown)





We lost power, so I'm laying here in semi-darkness, gladdened every time my 
Blackberry's little red light signals an email has arrived! How pathetic is 
that? 
I'm reminded of the Twilight Zone episode wher Burgess Meredith was the lone 
survivor of an attack. He piled up books, sorted them, and prepared for a 
reading orgy. Then he broke his only pair of glasses! Well, I couldn't find my 
glasses, so I couldn't see these little keys. Just a moment of panic! Lol!

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[scifinoir2] (unknown)

2009-03-02 Thread mcjennings124
We lost power, so I'm laying here in semi-darkness, gladdened every time my 
Blackberry's little red light signals an email has arrived!  How pathetic is 
that?  
I'm reminded of the Twilight Zone episode wher Burgess Meredith was the lone 
survivor of an attack.  He piled up books, sorted them, and prepared for a 
reading orgy.  Then he broke his only pair of glasses!  Well, I couldn't find 
my glasses, so I couldn't see these little keys.  Just a moment of panic!  Lol!

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Re: [scifinoir2] Good Morning SciFi

2009-01-13 Thread mcjennings124
Hahahahahahahahaaha!

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:59:45 
To: Sci Fiscifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Good Morning SciFi






I took my dad to the mall the other
day to buy some new shoes (he is 92). We  decided to grab a bite at the
food court.  I noticed he was watching a teenager  sitting next to
him.  The teenager had spiked hair in all different colors:  green,
red, orange, and blue.  My dad kept staring at him.  The teenager
would  look and find him staring every time.   When the teenager had
had enough, he sarcastically asked, What's the matter old  man, never
done anything wild in your life?   Knowing my Dad, I quickly swallowed
my food so that I would not choke on his  response, knowing he would
have a good one, and in classic style he did not bat  an eye in his
response.  Got drunk once, and had sex with a peacock.  I was  just
wondering if you were my son.

Fate.



  


Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: OT: Does an Introspective Bush Mean Anything Now?

2009-01-13 Thread mcjennings124
He surely didn't know about Ike's advice because, alas, it was in a book!

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:19:59 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: OT: Does an Introspective Bush Mean Anything Now?


rave, regarding the unnecessary war comment, soon after Mister Bush launched 
us into the Debacle In The Desert, someone remarked that he would've done well 
to read Dwight D Eisenhower's treatise on war. Basically, it read (in my 
words), If you decide to get into a war, make sure that you can win it, and 
that you have a plan on hand for doing so.

Mister Bush had neither.




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 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I am watching an episode of CBS' Sunday Morning that I taped, well, on
sunday morning. There is a segment accessing George W. Bush's
presidency. According to a George Mason University poll of 109
historians 98% rate Bush 43 as a failure with 61% of them rating him
among the worst in history. It is noted that John Adams, the second
president, said that there is one unforgivable sin for which a
president will never be forgiven and that is to put the country in an
unnecessary war. It appears that the Iraq War is an unnecessary war
and will prove more unnecessary as time goes on.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Been thinking a lot about President Bush, what he's done for (to)
the world, what he intended to do, what his legacy will be, what he
feels about everything. I find myself in some combination of anger,
contempt, sympathy, bemusement, and pity for this man who now seems to
be feeling the weight of what's gone wrong, but is still convinced
that he did what was right and necessary. It's like chewing on a piece
of food that you can't quite identify, working it over and over in the
mouth, trying to decide whether to spit it out, or chew some more to
decide on whether it's good or not.
 
 Here's my take on Bush: he's not a bad man, not even necessarily a
stupid one, as many (me included) have often characterized him.
Rather, I think he might fall more into the category of well-meaning
bungler, or confident-but-clueless. The kind of guy who comes into a
room and greats everyone by name, whether it's the help or the master
of the house, who can make everyone laugh at a joke and put them at
ease, but who then says something just kinda--well...hell, stupid.
Maybe telling an off-color joke or ribbing someone a bit too much. A
man who injects stories about how much he can bench press into a
conversation about foreign policy. The kind of guy that makes you
later say Nice enough guy, but a bit clueless...
 
 The more I hear his retrospectives and introspective musings, that's
what I think. Stuff like Well, I guess the 'Mission Accomplished'
banner was a mistake, or Yeah we made mistakes with Katrina--but
what about all the people we *did* help? makes me feel that way. 
Stuff said with a sense of regret and second-guessing, but still
bolstered by a game belief in his *rightness* make me think that. The
more I read about him and listen to him and see him--gray and older,
bowed but not beaten, impossibly upbeat even amidst the sense of
melancholy that must be attacking him--the more I realize he really
truly did what he thought was right and best for America. I contrast
that to people like Cheney and Rumsfeld, who in my opinion really are
egotistical, elitist, power-mad megalomaniacs.
 
 No, not a bad or ill-intentioned guy was George Bush the second, but
still hurtful. A child with a gun can still kill someone, I say. Ever
seen a kid accidentally cause a friend or pet to get injured? That
look the child has in his eyes, wide-eyed and tearful, fearful of what
he's done, not quite believing how that innocent rock throw at Fido or
stab at a friend's eye with a stick could turn out so badly? The way
that child wails, afraid both of what he's done, and of being
punished, gamely trying to defend himself while tearfully admitting
his guilt, pleading and defending, I didn't know that would happen.
I didn't mean it. It's not my fault!?
 
 That's Bush, a child playing with something way beyond his ability
to control or understand, now standing back going I didn't know
*that* would happen! I didn't mean it! It's not my fault!
 
 But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, they say. And
in the end, perhaps that will Bush's epithet: a well-meaning fool who
led this country down the wrong path, who harmed us without meaning
too, and then stood by when it was done, thinking I didn't know that
would happen!
 
 Somehow, George, it doesn't make me feel any better. Go to Dallas
and build your library. Rest on your front porch and put up your boots
while you sip 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: OT: Does an Introspective Bush Mean Anything Now?

2009-01-13 Thread mcjennings124
Are you military?  God bless you. I'm still insane from 'Nam.  Gonna die that 
way.
It's cool, though!

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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:24:18 
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Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: OT: Does an Introspective Bush Mean Anything 
Now?


Martin,

speaking as someone who was sent over there 4 times, i totally agree with u and 
Rave.  

Fate.

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From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: OT: Does an Introspective Bush Mean Anything Now?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 12:19 PM

rave, regarding the unnecessary war comment, soon after Mister Bush
launched us into the Debacle In The Desert, someone remarked that he
would've done well to read Dwight D Eisenhower's treatise on war.
Basically, it read (in my words), If you decide to get into a war, make
sure that you can win it, and that you have a plan on hand for doing so.

Mister Bush had neither.




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I am watching an episode of CBS' Sunday Morning that I taped, well, on
sunday morning. There is a segment accessing George W. Bush's
presidency. According to a George Mason University poll of 109
historians 98% rate Bush 43 as a failure with 61% of them rating him
among the worst in history. It is noted that John Adams, the second
president, said that there is one unforgivable sin for which a
president will never be forgiven and that is to put the country in an
unnecessary war. It appears that the Iraq War is an unnecessary war
and will prove more unnecessary as time goes on.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Been thinking a lot about President Bush, what he's done for (to)
the world, what he intended to do, what his legacy will be, what he
feels about everything. I find myself in some combination of anger,
contempt, sympathy, bemusement, and pity for this man who now seems to
be feeling the weight of what's gone wrong, but is still convinced
that he did what was right and necessary. It's like chewing on a piece
of food that you can't quite identify, working it over and over in the
mouth, trying to decide whether to spit it out, or chew some more to
decide on whether it's good or not.
 
 Here's my take on Bush: he's not a bad man, not even necessarily a
stupid one, as many (me included) have often characterized him.
Rather, I think he might fall more into the category of well-meaning
bungler, or confident-but-clueless. The kind of guy who comes into a
room and greats everyone by name, whether it's the help or the master
of the house, who can make everyone laugh at a joke and put them at
ease, but who then says something just kinda--well...hell, stupid.
Maybe telling an off-color joke or ribbing someone a bit too much. A
man who injects stories about how much he can bench press into a
conversation about foreign policy. The kind of guy that makes you
later say Nice enough guy, but a bit clueless...
 
 The more I hear his retrospectives and introspective musings, that's
what I think. Stuff like Well, I guess the 'Mission Accomplished'
banner was a mistake, or Yeah we made mistakes with Katrina--but
what about all the people we *did* help? makes me feel that way. 
Stuff said with a sense of regret and second-guessing, but still
bolstered by a game belief in his *rightness* make me think that. The
more I read about him and listen to him and see him--gray and older,
bowed but not beaten, impossibly upbeat even amidst the sense of
melancholy that must be attacking him--the more I realize he really
truly did what he thought was right and best for America. I contrast
that to people like Cheney and Rumsfeld, who in my opinion really are
egotistical, elitist, power-mad megalomaniacs.
 
 No, not a bad or ill-intentioned guy was George Bush the second, but
still hurtful. A child with a gun can still kill someone, I say. Ever
seen a kid accidentally cause a friend or pet to get injured? That
look the child has in his eyes, wide-eyed and tearful, fearful of what
he's done, not quite believing how that innocent rock throw at Fido or
stab at a friend's eye with a stick could turn out so badly? The way
that child wails, afraid both of what he's done, and of being
punished, gamely trying to defend himself while tearfully admitting
his guilt, pleading and defending, I didn't know that would happen.
I didn't mean it. It's not my fault!?
 
 That's Bush, a child playing with something way beyond his ability
to control or understand, now standing back going I didn't know
*that* would happen! I didn't mean it! It's not my fault!
 
 But the road to Hell is paved with good 

Re: [scifinoir2] Good Morning SciFi

2009-01-13 Thread mcjennings124
Yeah, I knew, but I could see your dad, and it was hilarious!
Much funnier coming from where you sent it!
I would have never said anything if you hadn't.

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From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:35:05 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Good Morning SciFi


Keith my friend,

it was only a joke.  just wanted everyone 2 laugh.  especially after all of the 
bush people trying 2 re-write history!  decided that everyone needed 2 laugh 
like ME.

Fate.

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, keithbjohn...@comcast.net keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Good Morning SciFi
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 12:32 PM











Are you shi**ing us?

that is freaking hilarious! Your dad sounds like a trip! But frankly, I can 
imagine many folks from the previous generation snapping at that kid. Even if 
he was uncomfortable with your dad's stare, he shouldn't have mouthed off like 
that. I was raised to respect the elders, even if they ticked me off or 
something. Even if he wanted to know if something was up, he could have said 
Excuse me, is something wrong?



Kids. (I'm only in my '40s but already feel that I'm a step away from grabbing 
a cane and shaking it at these whippersnappers in frustration! )



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From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com

 

 

 

 

 I took my dad to the mall the other

 day to buy some new shoes (he is 92). We  decided to grab a bite at the

 food court.  I noticed he was watching a teenager  sitting next to

 him.  The teenager had spiked hair in all different colors:  green,

 red, orange, and blue.  My dad kept staring at him.  The teenager

 would  look and find him staring every time.   When the teenager had

 had enough, he sarcastically asked, What's the matter old  man, never

 done anything wild in your life?   Knowing my Dad, I quickly swallowed

 my food so that I would not choke on his  response, knowing he would

 have a good one, and in classic style he did not bat  an eye in his

 response.  Got drunk once, and had sex with a peacock.  I was  just

 wondering if you were my son.

 

 Fate.

 

 

 

   




  




 

















  


Re: [scifinoir2] Obama Vs. McCain In 10 Sci-Fi Movies

2008-11-04 Thread mcjennings124
Early voting must be nice!
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Voted early last Friday here in the ATL...

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Anybody else at the polls yet?
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Subject: [scifinoir2] Obama Vs. McCain In 10 Sci-Fi Movies

Obama Vs. McCain In 10 Sci-Fi Movies
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=61799

My fellow Americans, science fiction has anticipated our current national 
dilemma: forever wars, economic collapse, mutant zombies running in the 
streets. 

Since we're already facing a bunch of science fictional scenarios made real, 
which candidate would best handle the real tests facing the nation: Democrat 
Barack Obama or Republican John McCain?

Change You Can Believe in is great, so long as abominations from the hollow 
earth aren't trying to change your very DNA, and putting Country First might 
not be enough when the whole damned species is threatened by lizard-faced 
extra-dimensional organ harvesters.

Take the following scenarios from SF movies:

1. The Movie: Escape From New York. 



The President: Donald Pleasence. 

The Crisis: With all of Manhattan turned into a maximum-security federal 
prison, a Patty Hearst-like teenybopper Tania take-off terrorist seizes Air 
Force One and crashes it into Midtown, where the Prez is taken hostage by a 
gang of convicts led by the voice of Chef himself, Isaac Hayes!

Candidate best suited for the crisis: Obama
As a former community organizer, he's got a track record in difficult urban 
settings in which times are tough; even though Hayes' predecessor as the boss 
of New York, Rudy Giuliani, might diss it, this is valuable experience! And hey 
... if you listen to certain talk-radio ranters, Obama really knows how to talk 
to domestic terrorists in really palsy-walsy terms! It might make it easier 
for Obama to get the New York State vote, but with 8 million votes in Manhattan 
negated (felons can't vote in New York State), those 31 electoral votes might 
get trimmed down some.





2. The Movie: Superman II.

The President: E.G. Marshall.

The Crisis: Phantom Zone escapees Ursa, Non and General Zod use their 
incredible superpowers to subdue the Planet Houston (OK ... Earth), raiding 
the White House and forcing a comically toupee'd president (whose rug makes Joe 
Biden's hair plugs look as natural as Fabio's mane) to kneel before Zod and 
swear fealty to the Kryptonian criminal.

Candidate best suited for the crisis: McCain
His Secure Borders policy would apply to Kryptonians, too (even though if he 
extended it to include Smallville, Kan., he might alienate Sen. Brownback and 
lose six electoral votes in the process). 'Sides, ... who wouldn't want to see 
a catfight between Ursa and Palin (under whose jurisdiction Superman's Fortress 
of Solitude would fall, assuming it's not on federal land)?





3. The Movie: Independence Day.

The President: Bill Pullman. 

The Crisis: A bunch of really nasty and hostile aliens take a page from 
Clarke's Childhood's End and make it real as they park giant spacecraft over 
the world's cities and proceed to blow them up. A ragtag bunch of refugees must 
rise up and fight the invaders.

Candidate best suited for the crisis: McCain
At the climax, President Pullman clambers into a fighter jet and joins an 
assault on the aliens. Well, we know who's got the edge there, don't we, even 
though he might be a little rusty after 40 or so years? The crisis forces the 
Prez to nuke Houston, so that's 34 electoral votes from Texas vaporized into 
shiny, shiny fallout.





4. The Movie: Fail Safe. 



The President: Henry Fonda. 

The Crisis: Six Vindicator bombers are screeching their way into Russia. Having 
gone past their fail safe points, they can't be recalled, so the Prez must 
get on the Moscow hotline (along with translator Larry Hagman) to help the 
Soviets bring down the squadron before Moscow is nuked to glowing rubble while 

Re: [scifinoir2] Obama Vs. McCain In 10 Sci-Fi Movies

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Subject: [scifinoir2] Obama Vs. McCain In 10 Sci-Fi Movies


Obama Vs. McCain In 10 Sci-Fi Movies

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=61799

My fellow Americans, science fiction has anticipated our current national
dilemma: forever wars, economic collapse, mutant zombies running in the
streets. 

Since we're already facing a bunch of science fictional scenarios made real,
which candidate would best handle the real tests facing the nation: Democrat
Barack Obama or Republican John McCain?

Change You Can Believe in is great, so long as abominations from the
hollow earth aren't trying to change your very DNA, and putting Country
First might not be enough when the whole damned species is threatened by
lizard-faced extra-dimensional organ harvesters.

Take the following scenarios from SF movies:

1. The Movie: Escape From New York. 

pleasence

The President: Donald Pleasence. 

The Crisis: With all of Manhattan turned into a maximum-security federal
prison, a Patty Hearst-like teenybopper Tania take-off terrorist seizes Air
Force One and crashes it into Midtown, where the Prez is taken hostage by a
gang of convicts led by the voice of Chef himself, Isaac Hayes!

Candidate best suited for the crisis: Obama


http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/news_thumbnails/Obama_tn.jpg

As a former community organizer, he's got a track record in difficult urban
settings in which times are tough; even though Hayes' predecessor as the
boss of New York, Rudy Giuliani, might diss it, this is valuable experience!
And hey ... if you listen to certain talk-radio ranters, Obama really knows
how to talk to domestic terrorists in really palsy-walsy terms! It might
make it easier for Obama to get the New York State vote, but with 8 million
votes in Manhattan negated (felons can't vote in New York State), those 31
electoral votes might get trimmed down some.

  _  


2. The Movie: Superman II.

The President: E.G. Marshall.

The Crisis: Phantom Zone escapees Ursa, Non and General Zod use their
incredible superpowers to subdue the Planet Houston (OK ... Earth),
raiding the White House and forcing a comically toupee'd president (whose
rug makes Joe Biden's hair plugs look as natural as Fabio's mane) to kneel
before Zod and swear fealty to the Kryptonian criminal.

Candidate best suited for the crisis: McCain


happening

His Secure Borders policy would apply to Kryptonians, too (even though if
he extended it to include Smallville, Kan., he might alienate Sen. Brownback
and lose six electoral votes in the process). 'Sides, ... who wouldn't want
to see a catfight between Ursa and Palin (under whose jurisdiction
Superman's Fortress of Solitude would fall, assuming it's not on federal
land)?

  _  


3. The Movie: Independence Day.

The President: Bill Pullman. 

The Crisis: A bunch of really nasty and hostile aliens take a page from
Clarke's Childhood's End and make it real as they park giant spacecraft over
the world's cities and proceed to blow them up. A ragtag bunch of refugees
must rise up and fight the invaders.

Candidate best suited for the crisis: McCain


happening

At the climax, President Pullman clambers into a fighter jet and joins an
assault on the aliens. Well, we know who's got the edge there, don't we,
even though he might be a little rusty after 40 or so years? The crisis
forces the Prez to nuke Houston, so that's 34 electoral votes from Texas
vaporized into shiny, shiny fallout.

  _  


4. The Movie: Fail Safe. 

fonda

The President: Henry Fonda. 

The Crisis: Six Vindicator bombers are screeching their way into Russia.
Having gone past their fail safe points, they can't be recalled, so the
Prez must get on the Moscow hotline (along with translator Larry Hagman) to
help the Soviets bring down the squadron before Moscow is nuked to glowing
rubble while a hawkish academic named Professor Groeteschele (Walter
Matthau) offers tips on how to use this SNAFU to end the Russkies once and
for all.

Candidate best suited for the crisis: Obama


happening

As the character Professor Groeteschele