Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-12 Thread Mr. Worf 
That's what they will do. They did that with their search engine, and gmail.
They really didn't start advertising until the superbowl this year.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Free beta-testing is the way they should go with this. If the product's
> good, then word-of-mouth would make the sales, or vice versa.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:03:04 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver
> ultra-high-speed Web
>
>
>  I read that they have a google wireless system in Mountain View
> california. I don't know if is free or not.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> They ought to, for free, to let us test-drive the system.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> ----------
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:04:31 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver
> ultra-high-speed Web
>
>
>  Maybe google will hook us up? :)
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd figure the Bay Area to be a mortal lock for service.
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RE: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-12 Thread Martin Baxter 

Free beta-testing is the way they should go with this. If the product's good, 
then word-of-mouth would make the sales, or vice versa.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:03:04 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver 
ultra-high-speed Web


















 



  



  
  
  I read that they have a google wireless system in Mountain View 
california. I don't know if is free or not. 


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























They ought to, for free, to let us test-drive the system.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:04:31 -0800

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver 
ultra-high-speed Web


















 



  



  
  
  Maybe google will hook us up? :)


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Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Keith Johnson 
I'm waiting for either Verizon FIOS or AT&T Uverse, but neither is available in 
NE Atlanta where I live. it's Comcast for now... :( 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:14:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver 
ultra-high-speed Web 






I know that we have discussed Verizon's new service but is anyone in their 
service area? They don't offer it where I am. 


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter < truthseeker...@hotmail.com > 
wrote: 





I'm all for that "openness" part. 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:24:37 -0800 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver 
ultra-high-speed Web 








OOoo fast IIiiinternet gaa That's my homer 
simpson imitation. 



Google, eager to take the Internet to the next level, isn’t waiting around for 
the telecoms or wireless providers to kick those connections into 
ultra-high-speed mode. In a blog post this morning , the company said it 
planning to build and test ultra-high speed networks in a small number of 
regions across the U.S. 
The experimental fiber network will deliver speeds more than 100 times faster 
than most consumer connections today - a 1-gigabit-per-second fiber-to-the-home 
connection. The company said it plans to provide competitively-priced services 
to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people. 
So why does Google think we need faster connections to the cloud? Here’s its 
list of some examples of what a faster connection could bring: 


• Next generation apps : We want to see what developers and users can do 
with ultra high-speeds, whether it’s creating new bandwidth-intensive “killer 
apps” and services, or other uses we can’t yet imagine. 
• New deployment techniques : We’ll test new ways to build fiber networks, 
and to help inform and support deployments elsewhere, we’ll share key lessons 
learned with the world. 
• Openness and choice : We’ll operate an “open access” network, giving 
users the choice of multiple service providers. And consistent with our past 
advocacy, we’ll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and 
transparent way. 

With any other post, I might argue that Google is taking things too far by 
putting its paws into too many baskets. I already commented this week on how I 
thought it was a bad idea for Google to act as retailer of the new Nexus One 
mobile phones. Now, I’d be inclined to ask why they want to be an ISP. 
But Google has been very clear that this is an experimental project. From the 
post: 


Like our WiFi network in Mountain View , the purpose of this project is to 
experiment and learn. Network providers are making real progress to expand and 
improve high-speed Internet access, but there’s still more to be done. We don’t 
think we have all the answers – but through our trial, we hope to make a 
meaningful contribution to the shared goal of delivering faster and better 
Internet for everyone. 
The first step is to reach out to cities that might be interested in being test 
locations for Google’s ISP efforts. The company is issuing an open Request for 
Information to identify communities that are interested. To help bring it all 
together, Google has put information on this page. And, of course, there’s a 
YouTube explainer video , too. 


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Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Mr. Worf 
I read that they have a google wireless system in Mountain View california.
I don't know if is free or not.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> They ought to, for free, to let us test-drive the system.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:04:31 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver
> ultra-high-speed Web
>
>
>  Maybe google will hook us up? :)
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd figure the Bay Area to be a mortal lock for service.
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Martin Baxter 

They ought to, for free, to let us test-drive the system.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:04:31 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver     
ultra-high-speed Web


















 



  



  
  
  Maybe google will hook us up? :)


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Martin Baxter  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Mr. Worf 
Maybe google will hook us up? :)

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> I'd figure the Bay Area to be a mortal lock for service.
>
> --
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> now.
>
> 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Martin Baxter 

I'd figure the Bay Area to be a mortal lock for service.
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Mr. Worf 
They started advertising a $49 a month plan for their high speed service but
I haven't figured out where its available!

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> It's available here in Atlanta. When I was first shopping for a wireless
> broadband service back in '06, Verizon was my first stop. At the time, their
> price wasn't good for me (about $80/month), though the service was, on
> paper, top-flight.
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:14:54 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver
> ultra-high-speed Web
>
>
>  I know that we have discussed Verizon's new service but is anyone in
> their service area? They don't offer it where I am.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter <
> truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm all for that "openness" part.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> ------
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:24:37 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver
> ultra-high-speed Web
>
>
>
> OOoo fast IIiiinternet gaa That's my homer
> simpson imitation.
>
>
>
> Google, eager to take the Internet to the next level, isn’t waiting around
> for the telecoms or wireless providers to kick those connections into
> ultra-high-speed mode. In a blog post this 
> morning<http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental.html>,
> the company said it planning to build and test ultra-high speed networks in
> a small number of regions across the U.S.
> The experimental fiber network will deliver speeds more than 100 times
> faster than most consumer connections today - a 1-gigabit-per-second
> fiber-to-the-home connection. The company said it plans to provide
> competitively-priced services to at least 50,000 and potentially up to
> 500,000 people.
> So why does Google think we need faster connections to the cloud? Here’s
> its list of some examples of what a faster connection could bring:
>
>- *Next generation apps*: We want to see what developers and users can
>do with ultra high-speeds, whether it’s creating new bandwidth-intensive
>“killer apps” and services, or other uses we can’t yet imagine.
>- *New deployment techniques*: We’ll test new ways to build fiber
>networks, and to help inform and support deployments elsewhere, we’ll share
>key lessons learned with the world.
>- *Openness and choice*: We’ll operate an “open access” network, giving
>users the choice of multiple service providers. And consistent with our 
> past
>advocacy, we’ll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and
>transparent way.
>
> With any other post, I might argue that Google is taking things too far by
> putting its paws into too many baskets. I already commented this 
> week<http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=30561&tag=col1;post-30563>on how I thought 
> it was a bad idea for Google to act as retailer of the new
> Nexus One mobile phones. Now, I’d be inclined to ask why they want to be an
> ISP.
> But Google has been very clear that this is an experimental project. From
> the post:
>
> Like our WiFi network in Mountain 
> View<http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/free-citywide-wifi-in-mountain-view.html>,
> the purpose of this project is to experiment and learn. Network providers
> are making real progress to expand and improve high-speed Internet access,
> but there’s still more to be done. We don’t think we have all the answers –
> but through our trial, we hope to make a meaningful contribution to the
> shared goal of delivering faster and better Internet for everyone.
>
> The first step is to reach out to cities that might be interested in being
> test locations for Google’s ISP efforts. The company is issuing an open
> Request for Information to identify communities that are interested. To help
> bring it all together, Google has put information on this 
> page.<http://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi>And, of course, there’s a 
> YouTube
> explainer 
> video<h

RE: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Martin Baxter 

It's available here in Atlanta. When I was first shopping for a wireless 
broadband service back in '06, Verizon was my first stop. At the time, their 
price wasn't good for me (about $80/month), though the service was, on paper, 
top-flight.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:14:54 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver 
ultra-high-speed Web


















 



  



  
  
  I know that we have discussed Verizon's new service but is anyone in 
their service area? They don't offer it where I am. 


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























I'm all for that "openness" part.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:24:37 -0800

Subject: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver 
ultra-high-speedWeb


















 



  



  
  
  
OOoo fast IIiiinternet gaa That's my homer 
simpson imitation. 



Google, eager to take the Internet to the next level, isn’t waiting  
around for the telecoms or wireless providers to kick those connections 
into ultra-high-speed mode. In a blog post this morning, the company said it 
planning to build and test ultra-high speed networks in a small number 
of regions across the U.S.

The experimental fiber network will deliver speeds more than 100 
times faster than most consumer connections today - a 
1-gigabit-per-second fiber-to-the-home connection. The company said it 
plans to provide competitively-priced services to at least 50,000 and 
potentially up to 500,000 people.

So why does Google think we need faster connections to the cloud? 
Here’s its list of some examples of what a faster connection could 
bring:

Next generation apps: We want to see what 
developers and users can do with ultra high-speeds, whether it’s 
creating new bandwidth-intensive “killer apps” and services, or other 
uses we can’t yet imagine.New deployment techniques: We’ll test new ways to 
build fiber networks, and to help inform and support deployments 
elsewhere, we’ll share key lessons learned with the world.Openness and choice: 
We’ll operate an “open access”
 network, giving users the choice of multiple service providers. And 
consistent with our past 
advocacy, we’ll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and 
transparent way.
With any other post, I might argue that Google is taking things too 
far by putting its paws into too many baskets. I already commented this week on 
how I thought it was a
 bad idea for Google to act as retailer of the new Nexus One mobile 
phones. Now, I’d be inclined to ask why they want to be an ISP.

But Google has been very clear that this is an experimental project. 
>From the post:

Like our WiFi
 network in Mountain View, the purpose of this project is to 
experiment and learn. Network providers are making real progress to 
expand and improve high-speed Internet access, but there’s still more to
 be done. We don’t think we have all the answers – but through our 
trial, we hope to make a meaningful contribution to the shared goal of 
delivering faster and better Internet for everyone.

The first step is to reach out to cities that might be interested in 
being test locations for Google’s ISP efforts. The company is issuing an
 open Request for Information to identify communities that are 
interested. To help bring it all together, Google has put information on
 this 
page. And, of course, there’s a YouTube explainer video, too.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Mr. Worf 
I know that we have discussed Verizon's new service but is anyone in their
service area? They don't offer it where I am.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> I'm all for that "openness" part.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:24:37 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver
> ultra-high-speed Web
>
>
>
> OOoo fast IIiiinternet gaa That's my homer
> simpson imitation.
>
>
>
> Google, eager to take the Internet to the next level, isn’t waiting around
> for the telecoms or wireless providers to kick those connections into
> ultra-high-speed mode. In a blog post this 
> morning<http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental.html>,
> the company said it planning to build and test ultra-high speed networks in
> a small number of regions across the U.S.
> The experimental fiber network will deliver speeds more than 100 times
> faster than most consumer connections today - a 1-gigabit-per-second
> fiber-to-the-home connection. The company said it plans to provide
> competitively-priced services to at least 50,000 and potentially up to
> 500,000 people.
> So why does Google think we need faster connections to the cloud? Here’s
> its list of some examples of what a faster connection could bring:
>
>- *Next generation apps*: We want to see what developers and users can
>do with ultra high-speeds, whether it’s creating new bandwidth-intensive
>“killer apps” and services, or other uses we can’t yet imagine.
>- *New deployment techniques*: We’ll test new ways to build fiber
>networks, and to help inform and support deployments elsewhere, we’ll share
>key lessons learned with the world.
>- *Openness and choice*: We’ll operate an “open access” network, giving
>users the choice of multiple service providers. And consistent with our 
> past
>advocacy, we’ll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and
>transparent way.
>
> With any other post, I might argue that Google is taking things too far by
> putting its paws into too many baskets. I already commented this 
> week<http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=30561&tag=col1;post-30563>on how I thought 
> it was a bad idea for Google to act as retailer of the new
> Nexus One mobile phones. Now, I’d be inclined to ask why they want to be an
> ISP.
> But Google has been very clear that this is an experimental project. From
> the post:
>
> Like our WiFi network in Mountain 
> View<http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/free-citywide-wifi-in-mountain-view.html>,
> the purpose of this project is to experiment and learn. Network providers
> are making real progress to expand and improve high-speed Internet access,
> but there’s still more to be done. We don’t think we have all the answers –
> but through our trial, we hope to make a meaningful contribution to the
> shared goal of delivering faster and better Internet for everyone.
>
> The first step is to reach out to cities that might be interested in being
> test locations for Google’s ISP efforts. The company is issuing an open
> Request for Information to identify communities that are interested. To help
> bring it all together, Google has put information on this 
> page.<http://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi>And, of course, there’s a 
> YouTube
> explainer 
> video<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wusklcNKDZc&feature=player_embedded>,
> too.
>
>
> --
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RE: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-11 Thread Martin Baxter 

I'm all for that "openness" part.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:24:37 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver 
ultra-high-speedWeb


















 



  



  
  
  
OOoo fast IIiiinternet gaa That's my homer 
simpson imitation. 



Google, eager to take the Internet to the next level, isn’t waiting  
around for the telecoms or wireless providers to kick those connections 
into ultra-high-speed mode. In a blog post this morning, the company said it 
planning to build and test ultra-high speed networks in a small number 
of regions across the U.S.

The experimental fiber network will deliver speeds more than 100 
times faster than most consumer connections today - a 
1-gigabit-per-second fiber-to-the-home connection. The company said it 
plans to provide competitively-priced services to at least 50,000 and 
potentially up to 500,000 people.

So why does Google think we need faster connections to the cloud? 
Here’s its list of some examples of what a faster connection could 
bring:

Next generation apps: We want to see what 
developers and users can do with ultra high-speeds, whether it’s 
creating new bandwidth-intensive “killer apps” and services, or other 
uses we can’t yet imagine.New deployment techniques: We’ll test new ways to 
build fiber networks, and to help inform and support deployments 
elsewhere, we’ll share key lessons learned with the world.Openness and choice: 
We’ll operate an “open access”
 network, giving users the choice of multiple service providers. And 
consistent with our past 
advocacy, we’ll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and 
transparent way.
With any other post, I might argue that Google is taking things too 
far by putting its paws into too many baskets. I already commented this week on 
how I thought it was a
 bad idea for Google to act as retailer of the new Nexus One mobile 
phones. Now, I’d be inclined to ask why they want to be an ISP.

But Google has been very clear that this is an experimental project. 
>From the post:

Like our WiFi
 network in Mountain View, the purpose of this project is to 
experiment and learn. Network providers are making real progress to 
expand and improve high-speed Internet access, but there’s still more to
 be done. We don’t think we have all the answers – but through our 
trial, we hope to make a meaningful contribution to the shared goal of 
delivering faster and better Internet for everyone.

The first step is to reach out to cities that might be interested in 
being test locations for Google’s ISP efforts. The company is issuing an
 open Request for Information to identify communities that are 
interested. To help bring it all together, Google has put information on
 this 
page. And, of course, there’s a YouTube explainer video, too.

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[scifinoir2] Google's experiment: leapfrogging ISPs to deliver ultra-high-speed Web

2010-02-10 Thread Mr. Worf 
OOoo fast IIiiinternet gaa That's my homer
simpson imitation.


Google, eager to take the Internet to the next level, isn’t waiting around
for the telecoms or wireless providers to kick those connections into
ultra-high-speed mode. In a blog post this
morning,
the company said it planning to build and test ultra-high speed networks in
a small number of regions across the U.S.

The experimental fiber network will deliver speeds more than 100 times
faster than most consumer connections today - a 1-gigabit-per-second
fiber-to-the-home connection. The company said it plans to provide
competitively-priced services to at least 50,000 and potentially up to
500,000 people.

So why does Google think we need faster connections to the cloud? Here’s its
list of some examples of what a faster connection could bring:

   - *Next generation apps*: We want to see what developers and users can do
   with ultra high-speeds, whether it’s creating new bandwidth-intensive
   “killer apps” and services, or other uses we can’t yet imagine.
   - *New deployment techniques*: We’ll test new ways to build fiber
   networks, and to help inform and support deployments elsewhere, we’ll share
   key lessons learned with the world.
   - *Openness and choice*: We’ll operate an “open access” network, giving
   users the choice of multiple service providers. And consistent with our past
   advocacy, we’ll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and
   transparent way.

With any other post, I might argue that Google is taking things too far by
putting its paws into too many baskets. I already commented this
weekon how I
thought it was a bad idea for Google to act as retailer of the new
Nexus One mobile phones. Now, I’d be inclined to ask why they want to be an
ISP.

But Google has been very clear that this is an experimental project. From
the post:

Like our WiFi network in Mountain
View,
the purpose of this project is to experiment and learn. Network providers
are making real progress to expand and improve high-speed Internet access,
but there’s still more to be done. We don’t think we have all the answers –
but through our trial, we hope to make a meaningful contribution to the
shared goal of delivering faster and better Internet for everyone.

The first step is to reach out to cities that might be interested in being
test locations for Google’s ISP efforts. The company is issuing an open
Request for Information to identify communities that are interested. To help
bring it all together, Google has put information on this
page.And, of course, there’s
a YouTube
explainer 
video,
too.


-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/