[scifinoir2] Re: SciFi Rates Returning Series Based on Viewership

2008-11-04 Thread votomguy
I saw a couple episodes of Chuck... you're not missing much. The best 
Scifi/ geek show on the networks this season is the big bang theroy. 
It's smart and funny. TV the past few seasons has really been dumbed 
down. It's like hey let's flood the market with really dumb shows. 
(notice how I didn't mention Ghost Hunters that's how much I think of 
it)

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, that proves it: this rating system they use is bogus. No 
human with enough brain power to move his eyelids could possibly rate 
Ghost Hunters an A show! I've tried to watch it, and it's just 
stupid. Nothing's ever proven, they run around with EM detectors like 
something out of Ghostbusters. It reminds me of when they had John 
Edward the psychic on years ago, to watch him talk to the dead. And 
then a show like Chuck is given a really low grade. Now I don't 
watch Chuck, but critics love it, and its fan base may be smaller 
than NBC wants, but it's very, very loyal. And I can tell from even 
cursory viewing that it's lightyears beyond Ghost Hunters, yet it 
gets a much lower grade??
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 We Rate Returning SF TV Series
 http://www.scifi.com/sfw/news/sfw_news_20081103.html
 Yikes! And you think the economy is bad. Imagine being a network 
executive these days. Much like the vanishing honeybees, television 
viewers seems to have evaporated, and shows across the spectrum are 
struggling. In fact, the networks are bleeding as they thrash about 
trying to figure out how to bring viewers back to their favorite 
shows.
 
 In this second of two stories, we take a look at how returning SFF 
series are doing this fall, grading them from best to worst. 
 
 Ghost Hunters (SCI FI) Premiered with 2.7 million viewers. Last 
week, 3.2 million viewers. The future's so bright, these ghost 
hunters will have to wear shades. Last week our favorite ghost-
hunting plumbers reached a series high, which is great news leading 
into their big live Halloween investigation special. And beyond 
spawning a successful sequel in Ghost Hunters International, SCI FI 
just announced it has ordered a pilot for Ghost Hunters: College 
Edition, in which seasoned investigators lead a group of college 
students in the hunt for ghosts. Can you say franchise? Or, heck, 
let's just have the Ghost Hunting Channel. Grade: A
 
 This story continues below the image.
 
 
 
 The Ghost Hunters: Jason Hawes (left) and Grant Wilson. (Chris 
Kontoes for SCI FI ) 
 
 Ghost Whisperer (CBS) Premiered with 9.31 million viewers. Last 
week, 9.95 million viewers. While the series hasn't been able to 
crack 10 million viewers this year, it's come close enough that it is 
the highest-rated series on Friday nights. And this is one of the few 
shows that has actually increased viewers since last year on the 
networks. Grade: B+
 
 Supernatural (The CW) Premiered with 3.96 million viewers. Last 
week, 3.25 million viewers. Supernatural has also done well this 
season, increasing in total viewers from last season. This male-
oriented show also has seen a dramatic increase among women 18-49, 
which is very good. And the show did it all in the toughest timeslot 
on television. Grade: B
 
 Smallville (The CW) Premiered with 4.38 million viewers. Last week, 
4.22 million viewers. Down a bit from last season, Smallville is 
still looking like a champ, compared with The CW's other low-rated 
programming. It may not be as shiny as it once was, but what show 
would be as it delves into its eighth season? Ratings should be good 
enough for another year--if The CW doesn't collapse completely. It's 
unlikely the network will find another show that can be competitive 
on Thursday nights with viewers as loyal as those for Smallville. 
Grade: B-
 
 This story continues below the image.
 
 
 
 Tom Welling as Clark Kent in Smallville. (Michael Courtney for The 
CW) 
 
 Heroes (NBC) Premiered with 9.89 million viewers. Last week, 8.46 
million viewers. How the mighty have fallen. While Heroes premiered 
last year with 16.97 million viewers, the series has taken a 
significant hit. One bright spot is that the show does very well in 
DVR viewings later in the week. The bad news is that most of those 
people don't watch commercials. It's doubtful Heroes is in danger of 
cancellation at this point, but the show's hit status has vanished. 
Grade: C (NBC is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.)
 
 Chuck (NBC) Premiered with 6.48 million viewers. Last week, 6.7 
million viewers. You've got to love a show about a sweet and adorable 
nerd who ends up accidentally becoming a spy, and NBC loved it enough 
in its second season to give it a full-season pickup before it even 
premiered. Unfortunately, viewers have not been flocking to the 
series, which is down significantly from last year, and if NBC didn't 
have other problems, Chuck would be in big trouble. Grade: C-
 
 Eli 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SciFi Rates Returning Series Based on Viewership

2008-11-04 Thread KeithBJohnson
Funny, Chuck gets high praise from all quarters. But your point is well taken. 
This article is rating stuff based on popularity, not intrinsic worth. That's 
troubling. Guess it explains, though, how SciFi cancels things like Dresden 
Files, yet greenlights junk like Flash Gordon, and the underwhelming 
Sanctuary.

-- Original message -- 
From: votomguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I saw a couple episodes of Chuck... you're not missing much. The best 
Scifi/ geek show on the networks this season is the big bang theroy. 
It's smart and funny. TV the past few seasons has really been dumbed 
down. It's like hey let's flood the market with really dumb shows. 
(notice how I didn't mention Ghost Hunters that's how much I think of 
it)

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, that proves it: this rating system they use is bogus. No 
human with enough brain power to move his eyelids could possibly rate 
Ghost Hunters an A show! I've tried to watch it, and it's just 
stupid. Nothing's ever proven, they run around with EM detectors like 
something out of Ghostbusters. It reminds me of when they had John 
Edward the psychic on years ago, to watch him talk to the dead. And 
then a show like Chuck is given a really low grade. Now I don't 
watch Chuck, but critics love it, and its fan base may be smaller 
than NBC wants, but it's very, very loyal. And I can tell from even 
cursory viewing that it's lightyears beyond Ghost Hunters, yet it 
gets a much lower grade??
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 We Rate Returning SF TV Series
 http://www.scifi.com/sfw/news/sfw_news_20081103.html
 Yikes! And you think the economy is bad. Imagine being a network 
executive these days. Much like the vanishing honeybees, television 
viewers seems to have evaporated, and shows across the spectrum are 
struggling. In fact, the networks are bleeding as they thrash about 
trying to figure out how to bring viewers back to their favorite 
shows.
 
 In this second of two stories, we take a look at how returning SFF 
series are doing this fall, grading them from best to worst. 
 
 Ghost Hunters (SCI FI) Premiered with 2.7 million viewers. Last 
week, 3.2 million viewers. The future's so bright, these ghost 
hunters will have to wear shades. Last week our favorite ghost-
hunting plumbers reached a series high, which is great news leading 
into their big live Halloween investigation special. And beyond 
spawning a successful sequel in Ghost Hunters International, SCI FI 
just announced it has ordered a pilot for Ghost Hunters: College 
Edition, in which seasoned investigators lead a group of college 
students in the hunt for ghosts. Can you say franchise? Or, heck, 
let's just have the Ghost Hunting Channel. Grade: A
 
 This story continues below the image.
 
 
 
 The Ghost Hunters: Jason Hawes (left) and Grant Wilson. (Chris 
Kontoes for SCI FI ) 
 
 Ghost Whisperer (CBS) Premiered with 9.31 million viewers. Last 
week, 9.95 million viewers. While the series hasn't been able to 
crack 10 million viewers this year, it's come close enough that it is 
the highest-rated series on Friday nights. And this is one of the few 
shows that has actually increased viewers since last year on the 
networks. Grade: B+
 
 Supernatural (The CW) Premiered with 3.96 million viewers. Last 
week, 3.25 million viewers. Supernatural has also done well this 
season, increasing in total viewers from last season. This male-
oriented show also has seen a dramatic increase among women 18-49, 
which is very good. And the show did it all in the toughest timeslot 
on television. Grade: B
 
 Smallville (The CW) Premiered with 4.38 million viewers. Last week, 
4.22 million viewers. Down a bit from last season, Smallville is 
still looking like a champ, compared with The CW's other low-rated 
programming. It may not be as shiny as it once was, but what show 
would be as it delves into its eighth season? Ratings should be good 
enough for another year--if The CW doesn't collapse completely. It's 
unlikely the network will find another show that can be competitive 
on Thursday nights with viewers as loyal as those for Smallville. 
Grade: B-
 
 This story continues below the image.
 
 
 
 Tom Welling as Clark Kent in Smallville. (Michael Courtney for The 
CW) 
 
 Heroes (NBC) Premiered with 9.89 million viewers. Last week, 8.46 
million viewers. How the mighty have fallen. While Heroes premiered 
last year with 16.97 million viewers, the series has taken a 
significant hit. One bright spot is that the show does very well in 
DVR viewings later in the week. The bad news is that most of those 
people don't watch commercials. It's doubtful Heroes is in danger of 
cancellation at this point, but the show's hit status has vanished. 
Grade: C (NBC is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.)
 
 Chuck (NBC) Premiered with 6.48 million viewers. Last week, 6.7 
million viewers.