Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 07/11/04 20:51:44 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Oops. Private email sent to list (hi Derek). It is a sad reflection of
the state of the list that nobody has metaphorically flayed me for this
digression. Not even a flyting from Rev Adkins. Och. Crivvens. 



It's OK Nigel we all realise you are in your dottage and these little things happen ;-)
Even if we give you a hard time you will have probably forgotten who said what by the time you reply !!!
Bev

Re: [scots-l] Re: Put Me In the Big Chest

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 22/10/04 00:43:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



    In addition to Fiddle & guitar, I also play the Pedal Steel guitar,  
but I'm not very good at it yet :-)


You haven't fallen under the influence of my mate Kevin Macleod (The Occasionals Ceilldh Band) have you?
Bev Lawton

Re: [scots-l] Scots-l

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 13/10/04 02:02:34 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Hi Toby,
I can't be the only one, but no one else is asking, sowhy am I getting 
messages from Yahoo Groups for this list? One email in particular wants me 
to verify that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is my email address, while 
the others are about joining "zoomtext" all with reference to 
argyll.wisemagic.com.

Are you setting up the list at Yahoo Groups? Is anyone else getting 
messages like this? Toby, there are verification codes and passwords in one 
of these messages. I won't hit "delete" (yet) just in case you want to see 
them.

--Cynthia Cathcart
www.CynthiaCathcart.net


You are not going mad! I'm getting them as well!
Just ignore them - some spambot has attempted to join a yahoo groups (zoomtext) using the generic list address - probably some defective spambots coding.
YahooGroups is now sending (a legitimate - as far as it sees it!) message to the e-mail address of the group - which is now being recieved by everyone subscribed to Scots-l.
Just delete it.
Bev Lawton

Re: [scots-l] New Tunebook(s)

[BEVLAWTON]

In an email dated 18/9/2004 12:52:04 pm GMT Daylight time, Nigel Gatherer <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> writes:

>Bev wrote:
>
>> Just to let you know - I received both books safe and sound - and
>> very nice they are too! 
>
>Am I to understand that you received copies of The Joy of Sets, volumes
>one and two, and that they not only were in good condition when they
>arrived, but you were astounded by the quality of the books? Thanks Bev
>- I can wholly understand your waxing lyrical about the books, but I
>wouldn't want anybody on this list to be influenced into buying these
>excellent stocking-fillers, even if they are extremely reasonably
>priced. Far rather they looked at
>
>http://www.nigelgatherer.com/pigp.html
>
>and then they could take their time reading about these books and other
>fine publications from the Pigpipe Press.
>
>-- 
>Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Took the words right out of my mouth Nigel - that's exactly what I would have written 
for a totally unsolicted testemonial ;-)
What with Christmas coming up they would make a fine stocking filler.Is that ok Nigel? 
Good enough plug? :)
Did I say that out aloud with my talking voice?!
Bev
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[scots-l] Re: New Tunebook(s)

[BEVLAWTON]

Just to let you know - I received both books safe and sound - and very nice they are too!
Look forward to the CD's when they are ready.

On your website you have several tunes posted with both the dots and TAB notation for Mandolin/Fiddle - what do you use to typset these?

Bev Lawton

Re: [scots-l] Re: Annie Gilchrist

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 31/08/04 00:04:27 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


First and foremost, my thanks to Bev Lawton for all the web-references on 
Annie Gilchrist, which she sent to the list a couple of weeks ago in answer 
to my plea for information. I visited all those websites, and was getting 
discouraged because I found that I'd already been to most of them and in 
fact one of the page I actually edited...a long time ago. Funny bumping 
into yourself like that.

I hit "pay dirt" by following a few links on one of Bev's sites: the 
Elphinstone Institute at Aberdeen University 
http://www.abdn.ac.uk/elphinstone/
has just published a book entitled, "Folk Song: Tradition, Revival, and 
Re-Creation" edited by Ian Russell and David Atkinson. Has this been 
mentioned on the list before? If so, well, it bears repeating. I ordered a 
copy, and it came just last week. It has a *wonderful* biography of Annie 
Gilchrist, but more than that it is full of peer-reviewed, fully footnoted, 
essays and an extensive bibliography.

Does anyone else have this book? Any thoughts on it? I particularly enjoyed 
David Atkinson's "Revival:genuine or spurious?" -- but then I must also 
admit that I've only read three of the 36 essays in the book.

--Cynthia Cathcart
www.CynthiaCathcart.net


Glad to be of help Cynthia - just one minor point - when I got up this morning I was pretty convinced I was a Male! 
I'll check again in the morning but I don't expect any change ;-)
Bev "The Bloke" Lawton.

Re: [scots-l] Typesetting music

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 24/08/04 13:56:26 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Also usefull: PDF995 is a freeware printer driver that enables you to
create a PDF file from any windows program by just printing to the driver.



Just before people ask! You can get this (and other useful software for free) at www.software995.com
Bev Lawton

Re: [scots-l] New Tunebook

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 19/08/04 21:26:45 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


My latest publication, a collection of Scottish tunes arranged in sets,
has just been delivered from the printers. I have just completed volume
two and I'll be getting that back within the next two weeks. I'll be
creating a web page with much more detail - and I'll let you know when
that's up - but in the meantime, the contents are below. I have to work
out postage rates, and for overseas buyers I have set up a Paypal
account, but that won't be active for a couple of weeks. I'll keep you
all informed. I just wanted to say "Hey, it's arrived!" Oh, and I
intend to record accompanying CDs with the books too...soon...

This sounds great Nigel - put me down for a copy of Vol 1 & 2.
I have downloaded some of your Mandolin Tab tunes - can I ask what you use to
create the manuscripts?
Bev Lawton

Re: [scots-l] Re: was Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 14/08/04 14:49:41 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Music o' Spey" is probably the one you mean

Yep that's the one! 
I always get confused between that and The Spey in Spate - a superior tune in my biased opinion!
Thanks.
Bev

[scots-l] Re: was Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 13/08/04 00:13:24 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



I have now placed both First and Second Collections on my website at

http://www.nigelgatherer.com/tunes/abc/petr.html

You can download the tunes one by one using the alphabetical title
index, or all of them in one file.

-- 
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Steve Wyrick, Nigel and JC thank you very much for all your help and efforts - it's much appreciated.
I have downloaded them all!
Spey in Spate on the Mandoid family of instruments(Cittern/Mandola/Mandolin) is now the weekend project!
There was another JKS tune with Spey in the title whose name escapes me at the moment - clues anyone?

And the bonus ball question is : 

I have just revisted a 1997 CD by SkyeDance : "Way Out to Hope Street" CUL111D on Culburnie records.
It has a track(14) on it called "Bannockburn" which I believe is an original Alasdair Fraser composition.
It's well suited to Mandolin and as my better half is now learning the Fiddle although I have most of the tune off pat I need the dots/abc to allow her to learn it (I tend to get tunes by ear and she likes the dots plus me lilting the tune!) any sources anyone?
Thanks and have a great weekend all.
Bev Lawton.

Re: [scots-l] Skinner ABCs (was: Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection...)

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 12/08/04 21:43:32 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Bev,

if you let me know, what in particular you are looking for, I could send y

Eva


Many thanks Eva - I was looking for "The Spey in Spate" in particular to play on Cittern/Mandola/Mandolin  and as it happens that is in Nigel Gatherer's collection on-line already - but in view of the other replies from JC in particular others (incuding me) may well still be interested. What do you have?
Bev Lawton

Re: [scots-l] Robt. Petrie's 2nd collection ABCs complete

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 10/08/04 20:17:29 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hmm, doesn't look like my earlier message got through to the list so
I'll
try again:

I've finally completed my abc transcription (melody line only) of Robert
Petrie's "A Second Collection of Strathspey Reels &c.", 1795, which I'll
send to anyone on the list who wants it.  This one has 70 tunes, a
number of
which have never been reprinted. -Steve
-- 
Steve Wyrick -- Concord, California




Steve - I have only just joined the list so I am unaware wether you have available Petrie's 1st collection as well.
I would very much like the 1st and 2nd collection if available (and for that matter anything else you might have!)

I am particularily looking for ABC's of  J. Scott Skinner

Please send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Many Thanks
Bev Lawton

Re: [scots-l] Re: Annie Gilchrist

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 09/08/04 23:59:44 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


So, any 
help...direction...a book reference...an obscure website...would be 
appreciated. I don't even know her dates or where she lived.

Thank you!

--Cynthia Cathcart
www.CynthiaCathcart.net


Basically she was a Folk Song collector to quote the first page of the first link below :

The English Folk Dance and Song Society was formed in 1932 by the merger of two organisations, the Folk Song Society and the English Folk Dance Society formed by Cecil Sharp in 1911.The Folk Song Society, founded in 1898, was the outcome of a number of individual folk song collectors and enthusiasts who wanted to share their experience and improve the quality of collecting and publishing.  No geographical limit was set to the Society's activities, and although the main interest were the folk songs of Britain and Ireland, the Journal of the Folk Song Society published articles from other countries as well.From 1904, the Folk Song Society became the focus of the new breed of folksong collectors, led by Cecil Sharp, including Ralph Vaughan Williams, George Butterworth, George Gardiner, Henry Hammond, Annie Gilchrist and Ella Leather, and the Journal published songs from this 'golden age' of folksong collecting. 

Here's a few links to help you on your way - but the first one answers the "Who was she" question!
Bev Lawton

History of the English Folk Dance and Song Society (EFDSS)
by Cecil Sharp, including Ralph Vaughan Williams, George Butterworth, George Gardiner, Henry Hammond, Annie Gilchrist and Ella Leather, and...
http://www.efdss.org/history.htm

... Annie Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie) / Annie G. Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie G.) -- LINK 1 ("Scale in Southern Appalachian Folksong") / LINK 2 ("A Paradigm of ...
http://home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/xrefs.html

... Includes an essay on life in Skye by Tolmie and a note on the modal system of Gaelic songs by Annie G. Gilchrist. GAELIC CULTURE. GrÃinne Yeats. ...
http://www.shsa.org/comp/hist.html

See also Annie G. Gilchrist, Journal of the Folk-Song Society 4 (1910), 52-66 [associates the poem with the grail legend ...
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/chans78.htm

... See also Annie G. Gilchrist, Journal of the Folk-Song Society 4 (1910), 52-66 [associates the poem with the grail legend]; Greene, "The Meaning of the Corpus ...
http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/teams/chansnts.htm

English Folk Song Bibliography. by. David Atkinson. Preface. 1. Revivals. 2. Collecting and fieldwork. 3. Singers and their songs. 4. Song and ballad research. 4.1. Approaches to folk song and balladry. 4.2. The music of folk songs and ballads. 4.3.
http://www.efdss.org/songbib.htm

... a 'Note on the Modal system of Gaelic Tunes' by Annie G. Gilchrist. With English translation and music in Staff notation ...
http://www.gaelicscottish.com/docs/g_music.htm

... Annie Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie) / Annie G. Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie G.) -- LINK 1 ("Scale in Southern Appalachian Folksong") / LINK 2 ("A Paradigm of ...
http://home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/xrefs.html

...by A. G. Gilchrist in 1907, and published with tune in JFSS 19, p. 156 (1915). Tune is also that for the Scots "Drumdelgie". Gilchrist notes...
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5043

... Nation. A G. Gilchrist. Carvals. Any comments, errors or omissions gratefully received The Editor HTML Transcription  F.Coakley , 2000.
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/music/carvals.htm

... VIII.3), 1929, 137-141, where A.G. Gilchrist gives a ...
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?SongID=5683

... Letter of British Ambassador to Dublin, A.G. Gilchrist 2.10.1969 ...
http://www.sluggerotoole.com/home/archives/003664.asp

... Annie Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie) / Annie G. Gilchrist (Gilchrist, Annie G.) -- LINK 1 ("Scale in Southern Appalachian Folksong") / LINK 2 ("A Paradigm of ...
http://home.earthlink.net/~llywarch/xrefs.html

... and critical perspectives, including features on several of the prime movers â Sabine Baring-Gould, Frank Kidson, Lucy Broadwood, Annie Gilchrist, Gavin Greig ...
http://www.tradsong.freeserve.co.uk/FSTRR.htm

THE SACRED HARP. American Shape Note Hymns ... 4] and the version of "The Gentleman Soldier" collected by Annie Gilchrist in Sussex in 1907 ...
http://www.geocities.com/ferretpublications/art02shp.html

... in the different versions of "The Two Sisters" was tackled by Annie Gilchrist in an article in Folk Song Journal 1931: ...
http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/inart686.htm

... Annie Gilchrist in the Journal of the English Folk Dance and Song Society 1932 distinguished two tune pathways one ...
http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/inart679a.htm

1THE SACRED HARPAmerican Shape Note HymnsCross the Atlanticby Lewis Jones1In the Winter of 1994 "English Dance and Song" carried an article by Gordon Ashman. ... similarity between "Leander"4 and theversion of "The Gentlem