Re: [scots-l] Internet radio
Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Found this on uk.comp.sys.mac. Good news for Toby's little station... | A copyright proposal that would have meant the death of the vast | majority of Internet broadcasters (who would, amongst other things, have | had to pay between 0.4 and 0.6c per song per listener - retroactively, | too) in the US has been rejected by the Library of Congress. So Internet | radio lives, at least to fight another day. ... | I think he means just Congress, unless the library has acquired some | rather extraordinary powers lately. Well, yes and no. The Library of Congress does function as the major source of technical advice to Congress on matters dealing with publication and related topics. Most members of Congress (except for those in thrall to the publishing and entertainment industries) will go along with whatever the LoC recommends. So the LoC does have some extraordinary de-facto powers, extra-legal though they may be. This is probably one of the few Forces for Good in the ongoing battle to turn over all Intellectual Property to the big corporations. The LoC tends to be a cabal of librarian types who approve of the unwashed masses being allowed (and even encouraged) to read. The LoC is a crucial part of a fun proposal that I and many others have made concerning the attempts to force all data-copying programs to check for copyright. The obvious question is How can a piece of software determine if a string of bytes is covered by copyright? The usual first answer is Look for a copyright notice, but this is incorrect, because under US (and many other countries') law, a document need not contain a copyright notice for copyright to exist. Furthermore, documents often contain invalid copyright notices. The proposed solution to this is Look it up in the online copyright database. This would be a web site that can be accessed by any piece of software. It would act essentially as a search engine. One of the obvious places to create this database is in the Library of Congress, since they have copies of nearly everything that has been published in the US, and an impressive percentage of the rest of the world's publications. The LoC could get most of the required software from google.com. If US law requires such a check by all software, then obviously Congress will fund such an online database and publish specs for how to access it. We could then program a copyright check by simply (;-) sending the data to the LoC's system, waiting a few milliseconds (;-), and using the reply to determine whether copying is permitted. There is a precedent for this already: School teachers are learning that they can detect student plagiarism from online sources by typing in critical portions of the text to the major search sites. There is software available that packages this capability. Extending it to a general copyright check is merely a Small Matter of Programming. The fun part of this is that it would, in effect, legally require that all copyrighted works be online in the LoC's database (or in a small number of databases in other countries). Other uses of such an online repository are left as an exercise for the reader. (Can you say Trojan Horse? I thought you could. ;-) Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet radio
They'll never crush me! I'll go underground if I have to! :-) Toby Jack Campin wrote: Found this on uk.comp.sys.mac. Good news for Toby's little station... A copyright proposal that would have meant the death of the vast majority of Internet broadcasters (who would, amongst other things, have had to pay between 0.4 and 0.6c per song per listener - retroactively, too) in the US has been rejected by the Library of Congress. So Internet radio lives, at least to fight another day. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/25381.html http://www.saveinternetradio.org/ I think he means just Congress, unless the library has acquired some rather extraordinary powers lately. === http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ === Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet radio station
My shoutcast suddenly won't recognize stations I select, Help! Toby Rider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I got some technical problems worked out with it, so now I am able to broadcast with twice the fidelity as before. I've got it up to 48bit stereo. It's sounds alot better then before!TobyPosted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.htmlDo You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Trad. Music
Orain Ghaidhlig wrote: Well, you're managing to offend most of the people some of the time, so in my book you're doing something right... Ha..ha..ha... Thanks.. Did you say there could be only 7 active connections to Radio Toby? No wonder I haven't been able to connect! (gripe, gripe, grumble, grumble...) Yes, I need to do something about boosting the number of connections. I'm shooting on making about 10 concurrent connections. I'll annouce it when I add the additional connections. Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Trad. Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am coming out of "lurking mode" to compliment Toby on his Internet station for traditional music. Good selections, especially those from Cape Breton and with Gaelic singing! Thank you very much, funny you should mention the Gaelic singing. Someone earlier emailed me privately and griped "Why so much Gaelic ??". Then someone else emailed me saying "Why so much stuff from Scotland ? Who are The Old Blind Dogs ??", then someone emailed me asking "Why so much Cape Breton stuff, how about some variety dude !" then someone emailed me saying "Who are all these musicians that I've never heard of?", then someone else emailed saying "Thank you for giving some lesser known artists exposure." Sigh.. So it just goes to show that you can't please everyone even half of the time! Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Trad. Music
I am coming out of "lurking mode" to compliment Toby on his Internet station for traditional music. Good selections, especially those from Cape Breton and with Gaelic singing! It is much appreciated, and the timing couldn't be better, especially since our local NPR station in the Los Angeles area (KUSC) has decided to cancel Fiona Ritchie's "The Thistle and Shamrock"as of this week. (BTW, If others in the LA area are unhappy with this development, it might help if they wrote the station to let the management know, at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Other stations that carry the TS do not have good reception here, so it is really nice to have Celtic music available over the Internet. Keep up the good work, Toby! Eve Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
This sounds pretty good, just on a 33.6K modem here, but every few minutes it stutters a bit. Why no DJ Toby?:) Derek Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
Toby said: Why no DJ Toby?:) Because I can't be there all day to DJ :-) That's no excuse- you could record the links. 'Coming right up...' 'Don't touch that dial...' 'Your tuned to Radio Toby...' etc. Or are you always doomed to be a phantom? Derek :) Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
Derek Hoy wrote: Toby said: Why no DJ Toby?:) Because I can't be there all day to DJ :-) That's no excuse- you could record the links. 'Coming right up...' 'Don't touch that dial...' 'Your tuned to Radio Toby...' etc. Or are you always doomed to be a phantom? Yes, actually I could do that. That's actually a really good idea. Last night I moved the server to a location with alot more bandwidth which fixed alot of the frequent rebuffering. Then I experimented with increaing the streaming rate, but I found that it made it rebuffer even more for people connecting with modems. So I left it at 32 bits, which is the same as FM radio, which made the rebuffering rate more acceptable. The fidelty of FM radio sounds good enough for my purposes. I was able to sucessfully boost the maximum number of connections up to 7. Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derek Hoy wrote: This sounds pretty good, just on a 33.6K modem here, but every few minutes it stutters a bit. Why no DJ Toby?:) Because I can't be there all day to DJ :-) Actually Win Amp prints the name of the tune and the performer in the little box at the top. Unfortunately the Real Audio player doesn't. Hello, Actually you could put some occasional Toby Radio id's in. Just put them in the WinAmp playlist. I seem to remember some automation software around that would let you do more complex stuff. Another idea is to record two or more songs in one file and announce what thay are at the end. I did some stuff in 'show format' using MP3 (two 50 minutes). I used 32k mono so it would sound decent. Problem is you really need a 56k modem unless you download. You cannot download live streams. What really surprised me is people liked that I did not talked over the music. It was a side effect as I assembled it out of .wav files (including my annoucements) and did not want to do additional work crossfading it. I listen alot to techie radio on both TVRO satellite and internet. I think it is neat. 73 Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
"Eric A. Cottrell" wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derek Hoy wrote: This sounds pretty good, just on a 33.6K modem here, but every few minutes it stutters a bit. Why no DJ Toby?:) Because I can't be there all day to DJ :-) Actually Win Amp prints the name of the tune and the performer in the little box at the top. Unfortunately the Real Audio player doesn't. Hello, Actually you could put some occasional Toby Radio id's in. Just put them in the WinAmp playlist. I seem to remember some automation software around that would let you do more complex stuff. Another idea is to record two or more songs in one file and announce what thay are at the end. Is anyone on here good at rapping in Gaelic? :-) Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
Rapping in Gaelic?? Careful Toby, they just started that new permanent U.N. tribunal for crimes against humanity. :P COLONEL IAN J. L. ADKINS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crown Malt Inspector Provost of the Village of Dunroamin Invernesshire, Scotland The Angry Scotsmen's Internet Asylum http://www.cyberhub.co.uk Blackmill Networks, Limited http://www.blackmill.net - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music "Eric A. Cottrell" wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derek Hoy wrote: This sounds pretty good, just on a 33.6K modem here, but every few minutes it stutters a bit. Why no DJ Toby?:) Because I can't be there all day to DJ :-) Actually Win Amp prints the name of the tune and the performer in the little box at the top. Unfortunately the Real Audio player doesn't. Hello, Actually you could put some occasional Toby Radio id's in. Just put them in the WinAmp playlist. I seem to remember some automation software around that would let you do more complex stuff. Another idea is to record two or more songs in one file and announce what thay are at the end. Is anyone on here good at rapping in Gaelic? :-) Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:06:18 -0800, Toby Rider wrote: I got my latest little project finally working. I have set up an Internet Radio Station using Shoutcast that will play Scottish Traditional Music 24/7. Please do me a big favor if you are interested and go to www.shoutcast.com then do a search for "celtic", then select to listen to my radio station "Tobys Traditional Music".Then it should Good so far. Thing seems to work play in Florida, too. I believe you can bypass the above and put: http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=241546addr=207.136.137.69:8000file=filename.pls direct into RealPlayer's Favorites area. This would bypass the browser and ads. Also (once online) into RP's Location thing (Ctrl-L). Maybe that's illegal, though. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - I am Abby Sale - in Orlando, Florida Boycott South Carolina! http://www.naacp.org/communications/press_releases/SCEconomic2.asp Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[scots-l] Internet Radio Station for Scottish Traditional Music
Hello folks, I got my latest little project finally working. I have set up an Internet Radio Station using Shoutcast that will play Scottish Traditional Music 24/7. Please do me a big favor if you are interested and go to www.shoutcast.com then do a search for "celtic", then select to listen to my radio station "Tobys Traditional Music".Then it should start streaming music to you if you have either Winamp or the Real Audio Player installed on your computer (both free programs). Please email me offlist and tell how well it works for you. BTW, the music is a mixture of players from Scotland, Cape Breton, a little Irish and a little Chinese traditional music. Thanks alot, enjoy! Toby Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
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Cool! It works. Thanks- Sue Richards (So, shall we send you our CD's to play?) At 05:06 PM 1/2/01 -0800, you wrote: I got my latest little project finally working. I have set up an Internet Radio Station using Shoutcast that will play Scottish Traditional Music 24/7. Please do me a big favor if you are interested and go to www.shoutcast.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
