[Scottish] Home network setup

2004-11-15 Thread RLBarbour
I have two machines currently on peer to peer ms networking.
The one in the house has access to the phone line and the one in the
shed has the printer attached.

I have just acquired SUSE 9.1 personal and need to dump windows (in
stages?).

So far all I've done is get 9.1 running on a new HD in the house
machine.

What do I need to do to get it talking to the other (windows) machine &
printer?
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Re: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread Craig Perry
Hi,
I'd better admit a vested interest before i write a reply - i work for 
tmobile, but i'll try not to favour any particular network unfairly.

The blackberry's are good (read: above average) little devices, 
batteries last a good wee while, pretty solid (i've dropped mine loads 
of times with no adverse effects). These devices are designed for right 
handed people though, so if like me your left handed, you'll just drop 
it all the time if you attempt one handed operation. The actual 
blackberry service is provided by the manufacturer of the device, 
Research in Motion, this means the service from each of the vendors is 
pretty much the same, as its RIM thats really the service provider, the 
only thing to distinguish networks selling these is cost, model of 
blackberry available, network coverage, everything else to do with the 
service is the same across all uk networks.

Vodafone are offering the new blackberry "charm" devices, well that was 
the codename for them, dont know if thats the name they've been released 
under? T-Mobile wont be releasing these for a few weeks yet, we've got 
them with the trialists just now though. These are basically just 
blackberrys but nicer, with a proper colour screen and bluetooth etc 
built in. Generally much more usable, but moving away from the original 
two way pager idea.

I've also got one of the p900s, great little computers, i mean phones. 
Very versatile, only bad thing is you cant really put it in your pocket, 
lest the sensitive touch screen be destroyed by your keys/spare change 
scraping it. You do get a rather naff looking pouch to put it in which 
will attach to your belt, so you can look somewhat like a high tech 
batman. Please note you will not need a sign on your back with an arrow 
pointing to the device saying "steal me, easy target", if you choose the 
batman esque look, as the device/belt clip stick out that much any 
common thief can see the opportunity.

The p910 is just a general tidy up of the p900, but it will have support 
for the blackberry instant email service available soon. Some have even 
suggested it will fully support the blackberry service, i.e. it will 
allow wireless calendar syncronisation between your exhange/domino 
server and it. The down side if this is true will be that you will lose 
the ability to edit word/excel documents etc as the blackberry service 
only allows read access to this type of document (actually it converts 
the word file into a proprietary, patent encumbered binary-xml format 
before spewing it over the air), whereas the p900/p910 is capable of 
opening word/excel files natively and editing them then emailing them 
back to someone.

The new MDA III has just been launched on tmobile, these are quite good 
too, basically pocket pc 2003 + ipaq 6310 (in a different case) + phone 
all in one package. Again these will have built in blackberry support 
soon too.

Seen as this is a linux list - just to bring this back on topic here is 
a status of the linux support for each of the above devices: -

   * Blackberry:
 I have written a driver - currently in alpha quality, which 
allows for a messy way to get the device to spew the address book out to 
a CSV file. This driver is not currently released as my employer are 
dragging their heels (still!) over allowing me to open source it. (read: 
if you dont tell anyone you can have a copy). Other than that there is 
no support i know of for these devices under linux.

   * p900/p910 - works fine as long as you use bluetooth or IrDA, if 
you want to use the cradle - good luck, but you'll need a p900 cradle as 
the cradle for the early p800 and the new p910 are not supported. Even 
with the right cradle, there's not much you can do, and generally i find 
the bluetooth solution alot better. There are howtos for hooking this up 
to ximian evolution in much the same way the device supports being 
hooked up to outlook/notes. File transfers work fine as well.

   * MDA III - limited support using the ipaq kernel module (which 
incidentally i used as a starting point for my blackberry driver), for 
synchronisation at least. But you can get this device to talk syncML so 
sync works the same way as the p900 above. File transfers work fine. 
With wireless networking built in there are a few other options are well 
so you wont be stuck.

Damn that was a bit long. Hope it helps though!
Craig
Kyle Gordon wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 12:16, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:
 

Hi Guys,
A pal of mine in Glasgow is looking at getting a two way pager, more for
personal use than IT usage, but that's by the by! Who are the providers
over there and what sort of costs are involved? Any stores / websites
you could point me toward?
   

Does it have to be using the pager/sms system? There's a few companies out 
there offering Blackberry devices, and also the SonyEricsson P900/P910 
apparently has an improved IMAP client these days, which you can use over 
gprs.

Kyle

Re: [Scottish] Patrik Harvie's Open Source motioon in Holyrood

2004-11-15 Thread Alan
http://www.faxyourmp.com
. very useful for contacing your local mp
Willie Fleming wrote:
Can I just remind folks to contact their MSPs to urge support for the motion 
Patrick Harvie has raised?

S2M-1921 Patrick Harvie: Open Source and Free Software-That the Parliament
welcomes the findings of the Office of Government Commerce's report
following proof-of-concept trials of Open Source software; notes that the
report concludes that Open Source software is a viable and credible
alternative to proprietary software and that its use can generate
significant savings in hardware and software costs and reduce licensing
costs and hardware refresh requirements; notes the significant financial and
environmental benefit that could arise from a policy of adopting Open Source
software, including the GNU/Linux operating system; notes the long-term
dangers for organisations in becoming locked into proprietary systems;
further believes that the principles of free software and concepts such as
Copyleft can help to protect important rights and freedoms for people in an
increasingly digital age, and urges the Scottish Executive to develop a
strategy for promoting the adoption of free software and Open Source
wherever workable throughout the public sector and to ensure that all
software developed with public funds is copylefted. Supported by: Shiona
Baird, Eleanor Scott, Mark Ballard, Chris Ballance, Mr Bruce McFee, Robin
Harper, Stewart Stevenson, Mike Pringle, Donald Gorrie
Please help out by contacting your MSP and pointing out that this is a Good 
Thing.



 


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Re: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
Andrew Back wrote:
or are a licensed radio amateur and can justify use of 'packet radio' for
the app).
Apparently you're allowed to send data over CB radio now.
Gordon.
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[Scottish] Patrik Harvie's Open Source motioon in Holyrood

2004-11-15 Thread Willie Fleming
Can I just remind folks to contact their MSPs to urge support for the motion 
Patrick Harvie has raised?

S2M-1921 Patrick Harvie: Open Source and Free Software-That the Parliament
 welcomes the findings of the Office of Government Commerce's report
 following proof-of-concept trials of Open Source software; notes that the
 report concludes that Open Source software is a viable and credible
 alternative to proprietary software and that its use can generate
 significant savings in hardware and software costs and reduce licensing
 costs and hardware refresh requirements; notes the significant financial and
 environmental benefit that could arise from a policy of adopting Open Source
 software, including the GNU/Linux operating system; notes the long-term
 dangers for organisations in becoming locked into proprietary systems;
 further believes that the principles of free software and concepts such as
 Copyleft can help to protect important rights and freedoms for people in an
 increasingly digital age, and urges the Scottish Executive to develop a
 strategy for promoting the adoption of free software and Open Source
 wherever workable throughout the public sector and to ensure that all
 software developed with public funds is copylefted. Supported by: Shiona
 Baird, Eleanor Scott, Mark Ballard, Chris Ballance, Mr Bruce McFee, Robin
 Harper, Stewart Stevenson, Mike Pringle, Donald Gorrie


Please help out by contacting your MSP and pointing out that this is a Good 
Thing.





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Re: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread Kyle Gordon
On Monday 15 November 2004 12:16, Daragh Mc Grath wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> A pal of mine in Glasgow is looking at getting a two way pager, more for
> personal use than IT usage, but that's by the by! Who are the providers
> over there and what sort of costs are involved? Any stores / websites
> you could point me toward?

Does it have to be using the pager/sms system? There's a few companies out 
there offering Blackberry devices, and also the SonyEricsson P900/P910 
apparently has an improved IMAP client these days, which you can use over 
gprs.

Kyle

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Re: [Scottish] Router and network question

2004-11-15 Thread Willie Fleming
On Monday 15 November 2004 14:29, Magnus Lawrie wrote:
> hi,
>
> I want to set up a home network with both wires and wireless. I got hold
> of a few bits of kit: a D-Link modem; wireless router; wireless AP.
> Unfortunately the wireless router doesn't appear to work. So I am trying
> to figure out my best option. I am considering these:
>
> 1. get the wireless router fixed (minimum £15)
What is wrong with the wireless router? Who quoted £15? Got lots of old 
powerbricks if its a PSU issue.
> 2. buy a new router and use the existing AP to implement wireless
> functionality on the network.
>
> 3. build a router from an old 386 (if I can find one amongst the
> debris). I guess this would work out as expensive as the 4port router
> once I had purchased a coupe of network cards and a hub.
I have a couple of P90  class boards here that you are welcome to. They will 
have sufficient RAM for the purpose. I was intending to use them for 
Smoothwall boxes but I think I could spare you one.  I'm sure I can find a 
case and PSU to suit as well. Cant help you with a hub though or old NICs cos 
again they will do for Smoothwalls :-(
Shout soon cos Im about to trawl the old m/bs for unknackered smoothing caps 
to try and rescue some newer boards.
> So if option 2 is the most sensible (without going to the expense of
> buying a complete new all-in-one modem/router/AP) will it work and can I
> expect any pitfalls in setting this up.
>
> Oh, and it's a network of PCs and MACs if that should be at all relevant
> (but I guess not).
>
> thanks and regards,
>
> magnus
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Re: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread Andrew Back
Not sure what application mandates use of a two way pager over a GSM
SMS/GPRS based solution. But if you want something that is not GSM based
then the only alternative I know of in the UK is the 'Mobitex' based
network operated by Transcomm (unless you can afford an Inmarsat terminal
or are a licensed radio amateur and can justify use of 'packet radio' for
the app).

Mobitex is a technology that has been around for some time and provides two
way data comms over a packet switched network (a la X.25 and GPRS),
it's pretty slow but reliable. IIRC service engineers from DEC
(--> Compaq --> HP, sadly..) used to have rugged field terminals that used
this network.

http://www.transcomm.uk.com/

http://www.mobitex.com/
http://www.mobitex.org

Andrew


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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Chris Binnie wrote:

> It's true about pagers becoming almost entirely outdated.
>
> We have a pager that our Duty Engineer has used when really poor mobile
> reception was expected. In the last couple of months we've received
> notice that the service is being discontinued as it's no longer
> economically viable due to the low volume of use. It's annoying as it
> was sold around six years ago as a 'lifetime service' where you just
> purchased the pager and the telecoms companies made their money out of
> the people that sent messages to it.
>
> Chris
>
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>
>
> >Pagers have been pretty much superseded by SMS now.  I think the only
> >people still using them do so for very specialised legacy reasons -
> >certainly all the engineers at work use mobile phone/PDA combinations.
> >
> >I haven't even seen pagers for sale for *years*.
> >
> >Gordon.
> >
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Re: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread Chris Binnie
It's true about pagers becoming almost entirely outdated.
We have a pager that our Duty Engineer has used when really poor mobile 
reception was expected. In the last couple of months we've received 
notice that the service is being discontinued as it's no longer 
economically viable due to the low volume of use. It's annoying as it 
was sold around six years ago as a 'lifetime service' where you just 
purchased the pager and the telecoms companies made their money out of 
the people that sent messages to it.

Chris
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Pagers have been pretty much superseded by SMS now.  I think the only
people still using them do so for very specialised legacy reasons -
certainly all the engineers at work use mobile phone/PDA combinations.
I haven't even seen pagers for sale for *years*.
Gordon.
 

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Re: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread gordonjcp
> Hi Guys,
>
> A pal of mine in Glasgow is looking at getting a two way pager, more for
> personal use than IT usage, but that's by the by! Who are the providers
> over there and what sort of costs are involved? Any stores / websites
> you could point me toward?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Daragh Mc Grath
> http://www.daraghmcg.org

Pagers have been pretty much superseded by SMS now.  I think the only
people still using them do so for very specialised legacy reasons -
certainly all the engineers at work use mobile phone/PDA combinations.

I haven't even seen pagers for sale for *years*.

Gordon.



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[Scottish] Router and network question

2004-11-15 Thread Magnus Lawrie
hi,
I want to set up a home network with both wires and wireless. I got hold 
of a few bits of kit: a D-Link modem; wireless router; wireless AP. 
Unfortunately the wireless router doesn't appear to work. So I am trying 
to figure out my best option. I am considering these:

1. get the wireless router fixed (minimum £15)
2. buy a new router and use the existing AP to implement wireless 
functionality on the network.

3. build a router from an old 386 (if I can find one amongst the 
debris). I guess this would work out as expensive as the 4port router 
once I had purchased a coupe of network cards and a hub.

So if option 2 is the most sensible (without going to the expense of 
buying a complete new all-in-one modem/router/AP) will it work and can I 
expect any pitfalls in setting this up.

Oh, and it's a network of PCs and MACs if that should be at all relevant 
(but I guess not).

thanks and regards,
magnus
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RE: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread Ivan Groenewald
Tcpdump paranoia ? :)

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Subject: [Scottish] 2 way pagers

Hi Guys,

A pal of mine in Glasgow is looking at getting a two way pager, more for 
personal use than IT usage, but that's by the by! Who are the providers 
over there and what sort of costs are involved? Any stores / websites 
you could point me toward?

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[Scottish] 2 way pagers

2004-11-15 Thread Daragh Mc Grath
Hi Guys,
A pal of mine in Glasgow is looking at getting a two way pager, more for 
personal use than IT usage, but that's by the by! Who are the providers 
over there and what sort of costs are involved? Any stores / websites 
you could point me toward?

--
Regards,
Daragh Mc Grath
http://www.daraghmcg.org
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