[Scottish] Free books
I'm in the middle of a book clearout. They're mostly going to a charity shop, but in amongst the dross there are a couple of books that I thought might be of interest to someone, namely: Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson Neuromancer by William Gibson They were all 2nd hand when I got them, but they're all in reasonable condition. Let me know if you're interested. -- Ben Thorp mr...@jedimoose.org Carpe Aptenodytes ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hardware recommendations?
http://nakedcomputers.org/ Might be helpful. Ben Thorp scottish-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk wrote on 07/09/2009 12:06:20: From: Magnus Lawrie m.law...@gmx.net To: ScotLUG scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: 07/09/2009 12:06 Subject: Re: [Scottish] Hardware recommendations? Hi John, You might have a look at re-boot in Forres for some not-so-aging recycled machines. They are very approachable and I think will sell you a raw machine or one pre-installed with linux. http://www.reboot-forres.co.uk/prices.htm Magnus John Gordon Ollason wrote: Greetings, My aged system is due to be replaced. I should like to find a supplier of linux friendly hardware who would sell me a system without Windows. Can anybody recommend a local supplier in the Aberdeen area, or nearby? Thanks, John O. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Spare IT kit. FREE!!!!
Chance of a spec sheet? Processor speed, memory, hdd at a minimum would be helpful Ben Thorp From: Tim Brocklehurst t.brocklehu...@henryabram.co.uk To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: 09/03/2009 10:52 Subject: [Scottish] Spare IT kit. FREE Ladies and Gentlemen, There is some old computer equipment around the office. 3x low-spec PCs and 3x CRT monitors. These machines would be fine as home file/print servers, but would be taxed running an install of XP. I have various copies of Win 95/98/2000 that would be fine with these machines. If anyone is interested, please contact me within the next 24 hours. All Equipment will be binned at 5:30pm tomorrow, unless I have requests otherwise. Cheers, Tim B. Software / Design Engineer Malin Marine Consultants 16 Sandyford Place Glasgow G3 7NB Tel: +44 0141 2850365 Mob: 07948 156648 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Scotlug Meeting on Thursday Jan 29th?
I have 3 bags of Linux Format magazines and specials sent from Future Publishing (ie these are current issues rather than my cast-offs) to give away on Thursday. I haven't looked through them all, but I believe that I do have some of their Get Into Programming special editions, which might interest some folk. First come, first served. Ben Thorp scottish-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk wrote on 28/01/2009 04:27:46: From: Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com To: SLUG-list scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: 28/01/2009 04:30 Subject: Re: [Scottish] Scotlug Meeting on Thursday Jan 29th? Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 18:31 +, jb_1...@ntlworld.com wrote: Does anyone know what's happening at the meeting on Thursday - is it a pub night, or is there a speaker? The web site just says there's a meeting, no more details given. We're watching bigkev apologise to neuro_ for kickbanning him for his comment about the job posting. Actions by everyone involved were juvenile and unwarranted. Both people in question have unsubbed from this list on their own accord. Any further discussion, slagging, etc, will result in the listadmin unsubbing the offender(s). There have been several good talks in the past months, and we've all been busy with Christmas and New Year. I don't know what's on the schedule, but Kevin may have an update on the new website that is apparently due to go live in a month or two. If more than 10 people turned up at the November meet, they would know that. I can't make it this month as I'm out the country. Hope it all goes well. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] August's Meeting
August's meeting is this Thursday (28th August) and bigkevmcd has stepped up to the plate to give us an introduction to Landscape, Canonical's support management application, with demo. (More info at http://www.canonical.com/projects/landscape ) The formal part of the meeting will kickoff at 7.30pm in Livingstone Tower, and then retiring to the Counting House around 9pm ish. Maps 'n' stuff on the website (http://www.scotlug.org.uk) Ben Thorp/mrben Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Gear
I'd be interested in the LCD (assuming there's nothing horribly wrong with it) Ben Thorp From: Alan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SLUG-list scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: 06/02/2008 09:11 Subject: [Scottish] Gear Hi peeps, I have some stuff up for grabs: 19 LG Flatron LCD monitor 2 x Epson printers 1 x Xerox Scanner If you want them, please let me know. Can deliver / meet up around the East Kilbride area. Thanks, Alan -- Alan Rutherford Glasgow, Scotland email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.nonsite.co.uk skype: air2810 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] chris fleming - openstreetmap talk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/11/2007 13:47:01: For those that missed Chris Fleming's OpenStreetMap talk at edlug in June, Or, for that matter, if you missed it at Scotlug's June meeting ;) mrben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Scotlug coffees in L13.18 - still happening?
This happens if Kenny is present as it's the Computer Science Department coffee machine and he's the member of staff that fetches it for us! As far as I know he'll be present this month (he's generally offline at the moment due to RSI) There were some problems with the coffee machine (some sort of in-house politics IIRC) which meant it wasn't available for the last meeting. Without confirmation I wouldn't assume it's going to be there. As mrLithic says, you're more likely to find a bunch of people in the Counting House beforehand. Ben Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Different meeting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/03/2007 18:32:53: Hi , I wouldn't discount IBM totally - the plant in Greenock is still open AFAIK, it just works on a far smaller scale. They have tons of office space, some rented out, some just lying bare (great use for a function). They make bladeservers and such out there currently and have a call center in the building, but nothing like what it was before the Lenovo deal. Yeah - don't discount us ;) On Sunday 18 March 2007 18:19:11 Andrew Barber wrote: I have been trying to think of ways that we could have a bit of a different meeting than the normal presentation by a member. I do think these are good, but trying to think of things that could also be fun. I have thought of maybe a 'controlled' debate, a discussion/(half arsed)argument on subjects that seem to create flamewars in the FOSS world. e.g. KDE vs Gnome vs * Source based vs packaged distro Could be fun. We'd have to have a metal detector at the door, though The other idea [which has been done] but is to try and get more people from external places for a talk. Sounds like a plan. Do you think these would provide a decent ScotLUG meeting? Yes, I do. :) Watch out - you might find yourself in my role... Ben Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Next few months
For those not aware, my wife is due to give birth on the 7th April, so I think I am going to need to step away from organising the formal part of the scotlug meetings for a few months. It would be really good if someone could maybe fill the void while I'm away. You don't have to do much - just badger other people to organise a meeting, so that it doesn't just become a pub meeting. We don't currently have anything organised for March (volunteers?) although Scottmac has offered to do something in April. It's not an elected post - first come, first served ;) Don't all rush at once. mrben Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: moRe: [Scottish] time spent on Linux stuff...
OK - lets step through some of this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/02/2007 09:53:23: Dear All, Well, I am now to the point where I realise that Linux is really only ever going to be a hobby, as it just seems to require so much time to simply make up its mind to *function*...(or for me to read its mind and discover how to make it do stuff..!)I have Ubuntu (as I'm sure you know by now...5.10) - You are a good deal behind on releases, although I'm guessing you know that. What I've been trying to do, just as a simple exercise really, to see if I can do *anything* - (well, I *have* managed to get online with the linux box! Whew!) - is to download and install even one pkg. - I've tried apt-get I've tried apt-get install - I've tried the Synaptic Package manager - (I was looking for Ubuntu updates/upgrades and trying to apply them just to see if I *could* !) The problem I keep running into is that although software gets downloaded okay, I don't know where it *is* and neither does Ubuntu, OK - if you're installing with apt-get or Synaptic, most things install into the menus. If they're not (which usually means they're a console app, although not always) then try typing the first couple of letters of the application into a console and hitting Tab. If it doesn't complete, hit Tab again to get a list of possible executables that match those characters. and archive manager - the default installer (or so it tells me) can never open/install *any*thing I believe that 5.10 only comes with the older archive manager, which only deals with extratcing .tar.gz and .zip files, IIRC. New versions of Ubuntu come with GDdebi, which will handle the installation of .deb files that have been downloaded manually. I've looked thru the apt-get -help instructions and tried them , but they don't work either... I'd LIKE to install Opera on the computer (Mozilla in Ubuntu is pretty disappointing) Again - you should try upgrading to one of the more recent versions of Ubuntu to get a newer version of Firefox. 5.10 is now 18 months old. 6.04 is the current LTS version of Ubuntu (== Long Term Support), and the most recent release is 6.10 (Edgy Eft) with 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) due out in about a month. but although the download of Opera for Linux goes all right, the same dead end occurs with the archive manager and I can't figure out which *other* pkg might open it . When I *do* look through other packages, they're usually empty when I finally work on down the directory or file tree... Install instructions for Opera are online at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser including instructions for 5.10 The Ubuntu is very complete - a quick search for ubuntu opera on Google led me to this page within seconds. It really *is* most annoying - and very time-consuming.. A few further pointers: 1. Installing proprietary software is always going to be a little esoteric, and will often require some manual intervention - either adding repositories, or downloading and installing a .deb file. Gdebi (as mentioned above) handles this much more smoothly than previously. One thing that will not always occur is the adding of menu entries, although this is getting a lot better, but depends on the vendor creating the .deb file properly. I would imagine that Opera would have this done, although don't quote me. 2. When installing from repositories (ie using Synaptic or apt-get) there is (99% of the time) nothing else to be done. Once installed, there should be a menu item available for the software. If not, as mentioned above, it will be available from the console, although (assuming you are using the official repositories) this is the exception rather than the norm, unless it is a console app you are installing. 3. Again - as mentioned above - there is a huge amount of easily searchable documentation available for Ubuntu. The majority of queries from new users have been properly documented. If you're having problems with something, don't struggle with it for hours - a couple of minutes searching will usually find you the answer and save you the time. Ben Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: BBC/DRM
It should probably be pointed out that the BBC finished their consultation process before the original email was sent. The objections raised by both Mac and Linux users was noted in their response, and they are looking to have an available client for other platforms as soon as possible, but will be going ahead with the scheme as planned. I spent a lot of time thinking about the DRM issue when answering their questions - I am against DRM as a whole, but I am also aware that many people are more pro-copyright infringement than they are against DRM (yes, I'm oversimplifying). My basic stance for the BBC quesionnaire is that I don't see why digital media should have additional restrictions over analog media - I should be able to acheive everything I can do with my video recorder with the new digital media. Ben Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Virtualisation comparisons
Don't suppose anyone would be interested in doing something in one of the meetings about virtualisation? It's quite a hot topic at the moment and I'm sure folks would be interested. Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/02/2007 11:47:32: I'm from Edinburgh, but I seem to have a lot of visits to Glasgow booked up, so... hello everyone from http://shearer.org/Computing_and_Technology Anyway. Here's some notes from a bit of experimenting I've been doing. If you're interested in comparing a couple of the virtualisation systems around, Alpha Systems (sponsored by the Japanese government) has just released a new version of Xenoppix: We released new Xenoppix which is consisted of KNOPPIX5.1.1, Xen3. 0.4, QEMU/KVM, and HTTP-FUSE(stackable/network virtual disk). You can compare Xen(3.0.4 on Linux2.6.16) and KVM(Release 12 on Linux2.6.19) on the CD-ROM. The boot of CD image is accelerated by LCAT. http://unit.aist.go.jp/itri/knoppix/xen/index-en.html http://www.alpha.co.jp/biz/rdg/ac-knoppix/index_en.html (LCAT is impressive, it's the first fundamental improvement on Rusty's cloop since its release c. 1999. All livecds will benefit from it.) One of the things to compare these two against is QEMU+kqemu. kqemu is now GPL. Another point: since QEMU is a vital part of Xen, QEMU is implicit in the three most-used accellerated virtualisation systems for Linux, four if you count VirtualBox although I don't think many people are using it yet. QEMU 0.9.0 is out ( http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ ) Regards, -- Dan Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Virtualisation comparisons
Never having yet been to a meeting, and the wiki indicating there isn't a normal one this month... what's a meeting like? If there's scope for a computer and maybe a projector I'll have a go. Dunno how that would work in the 20-people-in-a-pub UK model of LUGs though :-) Meh - ignore the wiki. This months meeting will be on the 22nd. The formalised part of the meeting is in Livingstone Tower, part of Strathclyde Uni. You're likely to get 15-30 people there, and we should be able to arrange a projector, but not internet access. Ben Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Decembers Meeting - Quiz Time!
December's meeting is a week ealier than the normal meetings, and therefore will be taking place next Thursday (21st). Once again it is time for the Bigkevmcd Memorial Quiz - a time to prove your geekhood and win cool prizes - hosted again by Andrew Calverley (aka mrlithic). So far we have a prize fund from HP and Novell, with hopefully some more swag on the way. The quiz will take place from 7.30pm in Livingstone Tower as normal, with the usual post-formal meeting taking place at the Counting House from 9ish, where the winners can toast champagne, and the losers can cry into their beer. Or something. There will likely be pre-meeting eats (and drinks) in the Counting House from 6pm (if not earlier) for those who want to go straight from work. So - get your pre-quiz preparations in order (scan that bookshelf of O'Reilly covers) and we'll see you there! Ben Thorp (aka mrben) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] September's Meeting
Septembers meeting will be this Thursday (28th). In a change to the norm, this month there will be *no* formal part to the meeting, only an informal meeting at the Counting House, most likely starting at around 6pm, and involving the consumption of curry (or other foodstuffs if curry upsets your palatte) and alcoholic beverages (most likely beer). There will likely be much Linux- and IT-related talk :) Normal service will be resumed next month. Ben Thorp (aka mrBen) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Fw: [JOBS] Senior PHP Developer
Apparently I'm the main contact - I don't remember signing up for that :( Oh well - Jobs Ahoy! Ben Thorp - Forwarded by Ben Thorp/UK/IBM on 18/09/2006 10:43 - Phill Gillespie Phill_Gillespie@ spring.comTo Ben Thorp/UK/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/09/2006 10:17 cc Subject [JOBS] Senior PHP Developer Hi Ben, I understand you are the main contact for the Scottish LUG. Below is an advert for a heavily OSS based role, with Linux desktop knowledge essential. I would be grateful if you would post it to the list as I'm sure it will be of interest to several of your more easterly members. Kindest Regards, Phill Gillespie Recruitment Executive Spring Technology, Edinburgh --- Senior PHP Developer Highly experienced (approx. four years) object-orientated PHP developer required for senior developer role with a very exciting company in Rosyth. Reporting to IT Director and leading a team of four programmers, candidate must have good interpersonal skills as role includes mentoring other programmers and some client interaction. Must have extensive experience with MySQL or PostgreSQL and a good working knowledge of Linux desktop and shell is essential. Knowledge of MVC frameworks would be an advantage. The company are offering a salary of up to 32k and flexible working hours (core 10am - 4pm). The salary will be up to £32k. To apply please email me your CV with a cover sheet or submit it via CW Jobs here: http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=24486779AutoExpand=1Keywords=phpJobType1=10LTxt=Edinburgh%2c+MidlothianRadius=30LIds1=ClB,Ep,FW,Fn,OfLIds2=dA,X,a,n,4,BC,B_T,B_W,B_c,B_5,B_9,CAB,CAF,CAG,CAPLIds6=Dzj,D,G --- Spring Group plc is one of the UK's leading recruitment and staffing services companies and is an active member of the Recruitment and Employment Confederation (REC) and the Supplier Diversity Europe Forum. Our services encompass contract and permanent IT and technology staff, office and industrial staff, workforce management services and recruitment process outsourcing (RPO). Spring Technology is the winner of the 2005 Recruiter Awards for Excellence for 'Best IT Recruitment Firm'. To find out how Spring can help your organisation, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are strictly confidential and are solely for the person(s) at the e-mail address(es) above. If you are not an addressee, you may not disclose, distribute, copy or use this e-mail, and we request that you send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this e-mail. Spring Group plc accepts no legal liability for the contents of this e-mail including any errors, interception or interference, as internet communications are not secure. Whilst Spring Group plc and the sender have taken every precaution to prevent transmission of computer viruses, should this inadvertently occur we do not accept any liability. Spring Group plc, Hazlitt House, 4 Bouverie Street, London, EC4Y 8AX. Registered in England, company number: 590054. Web: http://www.spring.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X-server issue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/09/2006 13:54:55: Hi, I recently received the latest edition of Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I successfully installed Ubuntu but now I the X-server problem. I would be surprised if you had the x-server problem if you have not updated - it was only broken for a few hours in the repositories. It sounds more like your config has got broken in some other way. I do not have a broadband connection so I downloaded the latest release of x-server from the packages.ubuntu.com site to a cd. I installed this release but I am still having the same problem. I am thinking of going back to the Breezy release. If I do return to Breezy will I still be able to install the Dapper kubuntu packages in Breezy and run the Dapper KDE. I also have the Dapper server on a CD. Will I be able to install those packages in Breezy and will they all function under Breezy? Thanks. I would strongly recommend against going back to Breezy. It's completely unsupported, and you will find it very difficult to get anything in the way of help online. -- Joe ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Augusts Meeting
August's meeting will take place this Thursday (31st) as per usual. This month Andrew Elwell will be giving a talk on Big Systems. All the usual arrangements and timings apply - see the website or ask if you require more details. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] BBQ
We had originally planned to have a BBQ tomorrow at my house. Although the weather is questionable, there will still be football and food (both optional) and beer for the scotlug masses tomorrow afternoon from 1600-ish. Food will be supplied, but bring some beer :) Address is Flat 0/2, 65 Curle Street, Whiteinch - G14 0SA. If you get lost, then my mobile is 07890-291021 Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] June's Meeting
Extra early notification this month! This months meeting will be on Thursday 29th June. For those interesting, there are no World Cup matches being played on that day, so you're safe. The formal meeting will be at 7.30pm at Livingstone Tower, moving to the Counting House at 9pm. There will most likely be a small informal gathering pre-meeting from about 6pm in the CH. More details on the website (http://www.scotlug.org.uk) This month Kevin Campbell (kevc on IRC) will be talking about 'Developing MailManager'. His blurb: MailManager is an email response management product written in python. It is built on top of Zope and runs against an SQL database. The source code is freely available under the GPL. MailManager is sold to customers either as a web based application, an appliance server, or via support contracts. Additionally, customers often pay for modifications of the software, which are normally merged into the main development release. Some of the main challenges for development include the additional overheads of maintaining datasets for multiple revisions of the product for open source users, and ensuring compatibility with a large range of target platforms. And international customer base requires i18n support throughout the product. Additionally, continual feature requests need to be developed and managed against the public release cycle. The development process makes heavy use of a test based methodology. Buildbot is used to run the test suite automatically on all supported platforms. Some of this code is also reused in order to provide extensive runtime monitoring of the product, and ensure it is functioning correctly. Logicalware (the company behind MailManager) was one of the first companies in the UK to receive VC funding for developing an open source product. You can find the LogicalWare webpage, and mailmanager details at http://www.logicalware.com/ Ben Thorp (aka mrben) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Dapper gets thumbs up in the Daily Record.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/06/2006 10:51:53: I cannot understand why Ubuntu is so popular. It seems to be a repackaging of Debian. It is a step backwords for Linux. I am considering migrating to MEPIS. Does anyone have a MEPIS CD they can give me? Thanks. MEPIS is just a repackaging of Debian too. If you didn't like Ubuntu, then you are probably equally as likely to dislike Mepis. People use Ubuntu because it is an extremely well integrated distribution which is, for the most part, simple to use and run, with a large community behind it. Plus, the very fact that it is based on Debian is seen as a good thing. Unfortunately no Linux distribution is particularly good if you do not have internet access, and dialup is almost as bad. It would appear that, for the most part, the issue of winmodems has never been resolved, and is increasingly unlikely with the spread of broadband. Even with a working dialup connection, getting updates for a system is likely to be a lengthy process. FWIW I have been using Ubuntu on my laptop (all devices working, including wifi, although I haven't tried the modem) since Warty Warthog and one of the most impressive things for me is the amount of progress they have made in 2 years. I switched my desktop from Debian Unstable to Breezy (and now Dapper) earlier this year, and couldn't be happier. If something doesn't work for you in Ubuntu, then I strongly urge you to log a bug - the community (IME) has been very responsive to resolving issues with the distribution, and this has been key in the improvements they have made. Ben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] This months meeting
Arrgh - forgot to send this out early again. Apologies. This month is as normal - Andrew Calverley (aka MrLithic) will be talking about Novell and stuff. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] March's Meeting
This Months meeting is Tomorrow! 7.30pm as usual in Livvy Tower, 9pm onwards in the Counting House. Details at http://www.scotlug.org.uk This month Subhi S Hashwa (aka InfraRed on IRC) will be talking about he use of open source in public access pcs, drawing from his experience with an internet cafe in Edinburgh (IIRC) As usual, there will probably be an informal pre-meeting beer+curry(/other food) in the Counting House - there's usually somebody there from at least 6pm, if not a bit earlier. If you don't know anyone, but want to come to this pre-meet, then either declare your interest on IRC (#scotlug on freenode - see the site for more details) or drop a mail to the list; sadly the big fluffy penguin that used to identify the group is not currently with us :( Ben Thorp (aka mrBen) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] SuSe Internet Access
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/02/2006 09:50:43: Colin McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cheapo adsl adaptors which come for 'free' with ADSL packages are almost universally USB connected and (mostly) only work with MSWindows. I'd recommend getting your own ADSL router with ethernet (RJ45) or WiFi connection. Agreed. I think I'm right in saying: those USB modems are winmodems, in that they push a bunch of the work of the ADSL routing onto your system, which they assume to be a Windows box. That's why you have to have (the correct) drivers, and things have to work just right for the USB modem to do anything at all. Actually, not always true. In some cases I have seen (in particular the ntl cable modems) it's actually providing ethernet over USB, which got into the kernel somewhere around 2.4.18 IIRC. However, the Speedtouch ADSL modems (which are really common) _are_ winmodems, but do have Linux drivers. However, I still agree with buying your own ADSL kit - it's not expensive these days. A (very bargain basement) ebuyer adsl modem (no router - just a modem) comes in at about £20 IIRC. Ben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
I have spectacularly failed to get anyone to do anything at this months meeting, so I am open to any last minutes suggestions to save it from being another straight-to-pub meeting. We will, however, be meeting at 7.30pm on Thursday (tomorrow - 26th). Once again I am looking for people who are willing to provide sort of entertainment for the formalised section of the Scotlug meets - as has been discussed before, you don't need to do a talk - other forms of meet are welcomed - quizzes, bring a book sessions. You can even pass it on to someone else to do a talk, as long as you take responsibility for the organisation. I am willing to continue doing the overall organisation, as long as nobody better comes along, or has any objections. One other suggestion is that Jono Bacon (writer, Linux advocate, LUGRadio presenter, etc - see http://www.jonobacon.org and http://www.lugradio.org ) has said that he is more than willing to come up to do a talk at some point during the year, as long as we cover his travel expenses (approx £75 for a return flight from Birmingham I reckon) and have the meeting on a weekend. Is this something that people would be interested in - it would probably mean having a 'special' meeting on a Saturday at some point (Kenny is this doable with Strathclyde?) and charging a nominal entrance fee? Ben Thorp (aka mrben) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Novembers Meeting
Novembers meeting will take place tomorrow (24th). Sadly I have not been able to arrange a speaker for this month, so there will be no formal meeting, only the 'informal' session at the Counting House. Officially this will start at 7.30pm as normal, but there is likely to be people around from 6ish. Apologies for the late notice, and lack of speaker. Ben Thorp (mrben) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Website changes
While we are looking at changes to the website, it's probably also a decent time to think about the meetings themselves. We had a long discussion about this a couple of years ago, so it must be time to revisit it. Additionally, I believe that Livingstone Tower is going to have renovations done at some point, and thus will be out of action as a venue (Kenny, I'm sure, will be able to advise more fully) It's probably worth it, at this point, to thank Kenny (and Strathclyde Uni) for the use of Livvy Tower, and all of the guys who've spoken over the last couple of years. *applause* ;) Anyway - currently the situation is that we have a meeting in Livvy Tower from 7.30pm-9.00pm before we retire to the Counting House for beers 'n' laffs. An informal pre-SLUG curry is also a regular occurance. The structure of the meeting has tended to be a talk on a given subject, usually with a Q+A session afterwards. The generic Q+A sessions for all Linux-related questions that used to come first has not really happened. We're usually 15-20 in numbers (maybe a few more - I'm rubbish with counting heads), and we've seen a reasonable flow of newcomers. So - what we need to ask is: 1. Should we continue with this format? If YES: a) Have we managed the correct blend of 'newbie' vs 'guru' talks? b) What topics are people interested in hearing about? c) Should we be looking to develop the format with different 'styles' of meeting? (ie not just talks and the odd quiz) If NO: d) What should we replace it with? 2. Are we continuing to meet the needs of the users who belong to the group? 3. AOCB? As most of you will know, I have been (loosely) arranging the talks for the past couple of years. If somebody else feels that they would like to take on the mantle, then please do step up - I am by no means 'precious' about my role, but will continue in it if it is something that is still needed. Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/11/2005 12:29:02: A vote has been raised on the scotlug website, and imho it hould getat least 30 seconds attention from people. http://www.scotlug.org.uk/node/view/121 is the address that matters. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [scottish] Random lockups! Hardware Diagnostics?
It would be worth checking your cooling - I had similar problems recently due to a faulty cpufan. Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/10/2005 13:53:23: Harry F Doherty wrote: Hi I've been having random lockups on my machine - no response to keyboard or mouse. This has happen both mid X session and when trying to log on a tty. I assume this is a hardware problem? All my hardware is pretty suspect as I found it in bins. I think I've ruled out memory (memtest) and power supply (multimeter). ide-smart on both my hard drives gives passed on all lines. I'm not sure what to make of my smartctl -i output (listings below). So I'm not completely satisfied I've ruled out a hard drive/ide problem. So where do I go from here? I need to check my logs, but where and what? I'm using debian testing with kernel 2.2.20. I'll put money on that being a possible issue; try a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel. You're running 2.2 on testing? Is it a handrolled kernel? -- _ __/| William Anderson | It's called a changeover. The movie \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | goes on, and nobody in the audience has =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | any idea. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- the Narrator, Fight Club ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] future meeting idea
So which of you corporate whores is going to fill it out and be our Novell contact? Ben Aidan Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk To Sent by: SLUG-list scottish-bounces@ scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk mailman.lug.org.u cc k Subject Re: [Scottish] future meeting idea 20/09/2005 13:30 Please respond to SLUG-list On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 17:12 +0100, Andrew Calverley wrote: Or Novell-geek looking for free Novell Goodies =0) You should have gone to Brainshare last week ;) - Aidan (corporate whore) -- Aidan Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aidan.skinner.me.uk You'll either be a union man or vote for GH Blair ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Augusts Meeting
Sorry for the late mailing this month :( Augusts meeting is tomorrow (25th August) - 7.30pm at Livingstone Tower, 9pm at the Counting House. There is likely to be an informal pre-meeting curry/beer at the Counting House - usually people are there from 6ish. This month is last months postponed talk on Linux PVR software (MythTV/Freevo) by Kyle (aka Bagpuss). There have also been vicious rumours about a short Gentoo talk from Scott, but these have not yet been confirmed. Hope to see you there. Ben Thorp aka mrben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] July's Meeting
July's Meeting will be next Thursday (28th) July - all the usual details. See www.scotlug.org.uk for more details and maps and the like. This month Kyle (aka bagpuss - http://lodge.glasgownet.com) will be talking about Linux PVR (Personal Video Recorder) solutions, like MythTV and Freevo. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Something for nothing
FYI these guys did a lightning talk at LUGRadio Live last weekend, and were apparently very good. Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/06/2005 14:04:34: SOMETHING FOR NOTHING JULY 11th RADIUS SHOP 423 SHIELDS RD, POLLOKSHIELDS - 7pm - 9pm As part of the 'Grow Your Your Own Media Lab' project funded by the Arts Council England, Sheffield based Low tech are giving a talk about their experiences with Access Space (the UKs first free media lab to utilise redundant technology and open source software) and their various creative ventures in trash technology. Free. for more info please call Hannah 0141 423 0070 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] useful links: www.lowtech.org Hannah Clinch Tel: 07780 60 40 31 or 0141 423 9412 Address: Flat 3/2, 21 Boyd st, Glasgow, G42 8AF ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide withvoicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Meeting this month?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/06/2005 22:29:43: Is there a meeting on thursday? This will be one of the few times I'm free on a thursday evening, so wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a month with no slug meeting ;-) There is indeed a meeting this month - usual format - 7.30pm at Livvy Tower, 9pm at Counting House. The delay in notification was because a) I was being lazy, and b) there was a problem with the talk. Originally bigkev was going to talk about the Plone-based redesign of the Scotlug site, but that has been delayed a little. However Jonathon Riddell has stepped up to the plate and offered to give his talk on Kubuntu (and, I believe, so coverage of KDE 4) that he also gave at LUGRadio Live this weekend. I may also be able to put together a quick 5 minutes worth of slides about the expo this weekend that 6 of us attended, but I'm making no promises ;) For those interested, there may also be a pre-meeting curry at the Counting House - for more details pop onto IRC sometime on Thursday, or drop me a mail. Ben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] OT: Guitar Amp
I have a guitar amp that I'm trying to sell - thought I would offer to the list (for pickup from the WestEnd - may consider delivery to glasgow area) before I eBay it. It's a Peavey Backstage 110 amp (quite old, but in full working condition). 2 Input, 65Watts, built in distortion channel and socket for a footswitch. Can take an FX loop too. Hopefully that makes it sound like I know what I'm talking about ;) Any questions can be mailed to me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Aprils Meeting
Aprils meeting will be at 7.30pm on the 28th April at Livingstone Tower, retiring to the Counting House at 9pm for a few light ales and further Linux discussion ;) This months talk will be on Voice over IP (VoIP), including Asterisk, and live demos, and the like. Ben Thorp/mrben ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux Install Day
Personally I think that this would be a great thing to do, as long I don't have to organise it (which I don't) - I reckon this might be an incentive for many of us ;) I'm willing to help out on the day. We also suggested The Chateau as a possible venue, as they had offered previously (and IIRC have a broadband connection). Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/03/2005 20:31:36: Been bit of a discussion on IRC regarding this today and the response seemed good. The idea would be to get members of the general public to bring machines along that we'd install Linux on for them. Then most likely some tutorials on Firefox, Thunderbird, GAIM and Open Office. Though the particular talks and software installed is open for debate. I personally think that Ubuntu would be the way to go as we could also give them a pressed CD to go along with it. I would be willing to attempt to organise it if others are interested in helping. Scott MacVicar ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] This months meeting, and other stories
This months meeting will be on Thursday 31st March, starting at 7.30pm in Livingstone Tower, followed by open discussion over light ales in the Counting House (as normal) ;) This month Andrew Calverley (aka MrLithic) will be doing a talk on Social Engineering (ie the process in which evil crackers get all your sensitive information by pretending to be something they're not) Following their last-minute cancellation last month, the Penguin Factory guys are hoping to make their visit in May, although this has not yet been confirmed. Also unconfirmed, but planned, is a talk on VoIP under Linux, including Asterisk, the open-source PBX/VoIP software, which (if all goes to plan) will be performed live using VoIP... Lastly, but definitely worth a mention. Some of us are, or have been, listeners of LUGRadio, the fortnightly radio show put out by some guys from Wolverhampton. They have decided to run a one-day conference (LUGRadio Live!) in June (25th June to be precise) in Wolverhampton. Dissatisfied with the over-corporate-ness of the existing Expos, they are hoping to make this the premier Linux event in the UK for Linux users, not just businessmen. The event is running at very low cost (£5 a ticket), but has a good range of speakers. See http://www.lugradio.org/live/2005/ for up-to-date details, but the current line up includes: Bill Thompson Bill Thompson is a technology critic and essayist who works with the BBC. Colin WatsonCanonical developer and Debian installer hacker. Drew McLellan An established and respected web developer and author based in London. Jon Masters Jon Masters is an embedded systems developer and freelance writer. Sarah EwenSarah Ewen runs the Linux for Playstation 2 community and advocates using Linux on Playstation 2 hardware. Simon Willison Simon Willison is a leading web developer. (All TBC at the moment) Plus there will be exhibitions from Mambo, Scundog and the Infopoint project, and a gaming room. The main program runs from 12-6, and there will be socialising over beers in the evening. This means it will be possible to travel down on the Saturday morning, and thus only have to pay for 1 nights BB. Some of us are already planning to go, but if you are thinking of going, it's probably worth posting a note to the list, as travelling together is much more fun ;) Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] LUGRadio Live
For those of you who have been listeners of LUGRadio (http://www.lugradio.org) over the last year, they have announced 'LUGRadio Live', their 'tradeshow' or expo, or whatever. It will be on 25th June 2005, in Wolverhampton - the main event will be running from 12pm - 6pm, with a more 'social' evening also planned. This should mean that it would be a matter of going down on Saturday morning, and coming back up on Sunday morning I suspect. They are running it as a non-profit event, so they are only asking for donations towards it, thus you basically only need petrol, BB and beer money. If anyone is interested in coming, and wants to catch a lift, then we should hopefully be able to arrange something. It would be cool for a crowd of us to go. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Anyone there??
Apologies to everyone for the mix-up over Thursday night - a number of factors conspired against us: 1. I had not provided any emergency contact details to the Penguin Factory guys 2. My Scotlug mailing list mail goes to work, not home 3. My home email was completely buggered by NTL at the end of last week - Rolands emergency email to me only arrived on Sunday We are hopefully going to reschedule this talk for later in the year. Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/02/2005 18:52:09: Hi did anyone get that last email about the lecture? I'm still waiting on some feedback from Ben!!! Just to re-affirm we are tied up on a support call and can't make tonights meeting... -- Roland Ward (Director) Penguin Factory Ltd www.penguinfactory.co.uk Tel: 08700 686 306 ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] A Wee Hello
Welcome. Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/02/2005 13:15:23: Hi there, My name is Peter Shillan, a software developer from Stirling. I mainly develop server-side Java at the moment and have just started my first I.T. contract in Glasgow so I thought I'd join the list. My Linux experience goes back about 3 years. I started off on RedHat but I'm something of a Debian convert these days and run that distro wherever I am responsible for the choice. I was lucky enough to work in some environments where O.S. was a developer choice, but now I'm back to mandatory Windows. Ho-Hum! Anywya, that's enough about me. I just thought I'd introduce myself to the list. Cheers, Peter. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Good Live Disk for ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/02/2005 14:00:43: *** This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. *** Hi there We have a contractor who would like to try Linux and see if it suits him, but so far the Live CDs I've punted his way haven't been successful (PClinuxOS, Knoppix and BeaTrix). What he wants is a CD that can allow him to easily configure and connect to the Internet via his external Broadband modem, change resolution etc. The sort fo thing he can give to his non-enthusiast mum Any reccomendations? If Knoppix and BeaTrix don't work, then you might have problems. You could try the Mandrake live disk, or the Ubuntu one, I suppose. cds The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Energis in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus-free ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] (no subject)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/01/2005 13:03:41: Is there anyone who would be willing to share a copy of Suse 9. 2 or Mandrake of recent vintage? (or another version ) with me? From what I read |Mandrake is more point amp; click than other distros - is this really so, do you(s) think? ( That would cerainly make it easier and more do-able for me.! ) I have a copy of Mandrake on DVD that came on the front of a magazine that you're welcome to have. Or I could give you a copy of Ubuntu. And if there is anyone who has a half hour to spare in Glesga's West End and could meet me to help me verify if I'm just a doughball, or if indeed I've got a bad copy of Linux, would you please get in touch? I'm in the Westend and could meet up if you like - mail me off list: mrben at jedimoose.org Ben Thorp (mrben) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] January's Meeting
Happy New Year, and all that. January's meeting will be on the 27th, 7.30pm at Livingstone Tower as per usual - details and maps at http://www.scotlug.org.uk This month Alan Rutherford will be talking about the Blender Conference (the talk that was originally planned for November). Blender is the premier opensource 3d rendering software: Blender, the open source software for 3D modeling, animation, rendering, post-production, interactive creation and playback. Available for Windows, Linux, Irix, Sun Solaris, FreeBSD or Mac OS X under the GNU Public License - see http://www.blender3d.org and http://www.blender.org If anybody has any suggestions of the kind of meetings they would like to see in 2005, I would be happy to hear them. Likewise, if you would like to organise a meeting, please drop me a line. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] November Meeting
Due to circumstances beyond our control, Alan Rutherford has had to pull out of his talk at the last minute. Luckily, Andy McKay (aka lonewolff) has offered to do his LFS talk, which was originally scheduled for early next year. Time and place remain the same. For pre-SLUG food/drinks, join us in the Counting House any time from about 6ish. Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/11/2004 15:39:27: On Wednesday 17 November 2004 15:44, Ben Thorp wrote: Just a wee reminder - the November meeting will be on Thursday 25th November, at 7.30pm and Livingston Tower (directions on the webpage at http://www.scotlug.org.uk) As usual there will be plenty of opportunity to ask other Linux and tech related questions. And I have 20 Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CDs to distribute at the meeting as well. If you're not fast, you're last :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] SPAM SPAM SPAM - Clear out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16/11/2004 15:27:06: Also playstation one, with about 50 games or so. --- end of free stuff /me wouldn't mind that I'm also flogging a 17inch dell flat panel monitor (decided dual screen is not for me), for about £150ish, 1 month or so old. Comes with driver cd etc (colour definition files). vga adapter, can supply vga-dvi adapter with it though. Could also throw in (the worlds crappest) graphics card with the above, its an ati radeon 9200se 128mb, works under linux but my god is it a struggle to get the xinerama extensions playing with this thing. Its PCI based as well, like i said, definately a contender for title of worlds crappest semi-modern graphics card - 1 vga, 1 dvi, 1 s-video out port, with s-video cable for hooking up to the tv. I might be interested in this too, but would need to speak to the wife first, so don't hold it (or your breath). Ben ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hi from Down Under
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/11/2004 12:41:58: Hi guys, I was wondering if you were having a LUG meeting in December, I notice the shindig on the 30th- so no meeting? There's none planned apart from the shindig at this point, but there's no reason why we can't have a meeting if there is enough demand. We also need to confirm the date - 16th, 23rd or 30th. Traditionally we've gone for the 3rd Thursday, rather than the last, to miss Christmas. This year, obviously, the 3rd Thursday is still only 2 days beforehand, so maybe the 16th is the obvious choice. (There are likely to be additional, optional, opportunities to meet up) I was hoping to catch up with some Linux people to get a feel for Linux in Scotland, eg business uptake, advocacy etc. I was even tempted to deliver a session, if you were having a LUG meeting, on how to succeed in building confidence in Linux for small businesses. Have you guys had anyone talk business at your LUG? We're due a business in February, but it's been a while, IIRC. I'll be in Glasgow from 21st Dec to 16th Jan, pity if I can't meet some Linux's form my old haunts. Meeting or not, I'm sure there will be opportunity to meet up. Steve D linuxSA.org.au (member) -- Stephen Donaldson General Manager OpenOZ Pty Ltd 0415 316 783 .*. /v\We Run CentOS // \\ *LINUX* /( )\ ^^ ^^ ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] xbox linux (again)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26/10/2004 09:43:03: Georgia Thomson wrote: not as far as i'm aware, playstation2 can run linux, but with a lot more work than is required for an xbox to do so. I'm sure someone got a PlayStation running some form of Linux or NetBSD (it's just a MIPS target after all) but it was hack city and they were the mayor. Installing Linux on an original-style PS2 is a snap compared to installing on an Xbox, it just requires a lot more cash :) Given that it was an official Sony product, it should have been easier http://www.us.playstation.com/peripherals.aspx?id=SCPH-97047 It came with some extra hardware, but it appears the software was significantly crippled -- _ __/| William Anderson | Brodie: The Force is strong with this one \`O_o' neuro at well dot com |Jay: Dude, don't encourage him =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | -- Mallrats, (1995) U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Upcoming Meetings
The following topics have been agreed for the next few meetings: September 30th - BSD by Kevin McDermott (bigkevmcd) October 28th - Video Editing under Linux by Ben Thorp (mrBen) November 25th - LFS (Linux from Scratch) by Andy McKay (lonewolff) December 30th (? TBD) - Christmas/New Years Shindig Given that we are prepared (hah!) so much in advance, please take the opportunity to pass on these details to whoever you think would be interested. Reminders will be sent a week or so in advance, as per normal. The venues will be the same as normal, except for December, which will likely be in the Counting House for its entirety. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] wat courses should i take? {Scanned}
Is the Linux+ course the CompTIA(?) one? Generally, I personally would choose a vendor-neutral certification program over a vendor-specific, thus go for the Linux+. Having said that, the RedHat one is very well known, and widely recognised, so neither choice is a bad one. How/where are these courses being offered, or is it internal to your job? Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/08/2004 19:36:24: Hi, I've got the opertunity to take a couple of linux based coarses (and a couple of others) over the next few months, and thought id ask you lot what the better corses would be :- The courses are as follows :- *** 13618D - Linux Red Hat Advanced System Administration Curriculum The Linux Red Hat Advanced System Administration Curriculum provides users with a methodology for planning and installing a Red Hat system. It identifies issues to resolve during the planning stage. It also provides an overview of the installation process and teaches the learner how to install a basic Red Hat system. This curriculum builds up a deeper understanding of some installation and startup options. It covers some installation troubleshooting and initial configuration. It also covers how to set up users and manage software after a Red Hat Linux installation. Students will also learn some advanced user administration and X Windows topics. It examines disk quotas and shell configuration, cover Kernel concepts, installation, and configuration, and learn how to set up X Windows servers and clients. This will also cover Network Management and Services. It examines a number of networking technologies such as DNS, NFS and DHCP before explaining PPP configuration, and provide information about installing and configuring network services such as HTTP, FTP, Samba and Printing. Lastly, this curriculum covers security issues and some operational administration topics, system logging, internetworking and services security which are designed to help administrators ensure that their systems are secure. This curriculum consists of five courses: Course 13618 Linux Red Hat Advanced System Administration Part 1: Planning and Basic Installation Course 13619 Linux Red Hat Advanced System Administration Part 2: Advanced Installation and Basic Configuration Course 13620 Linux Red Hat Advanced System Administration Part 3: User Administration and X Windows Course 13621 Linux Red Hat Advanced System Administration Part 4: Network Management and Services Course 13622 Linux Red Hat Advanced System Administration Part 5: Security and Operational Administration Learn To See individual course descriptions for specific course objectives and scope. Audience The audience for this curriculum will be relatively wide. Learners will generally come from three backgrounds: The first group are existing Linux System Administrators whose focus is to learn specifically about Red Hat Linux. The second group is specifically preparing to take the RHCE exam and is using our course to support this certification. The third group is Linux expert/power users who want to learn the nuts and bolts of Red Hat Linux system administration. In general, you can consider the learners who take this curriculum will have a strong understanding of the content in our Linux Essentials curriculum. ** 14321D - Complete Linux+ Certification Curriculum The Complete Linux+ Certification Curriculum includes the courses required to teach learners how to plan, implement and install Linux. Students will learn how to manage the X Window System and the Linux Shell, and will also learn about user administration and networking. Students will also learn about administering services and processes, system maintenance, hardware and troubleshooting. This curriculum consists of five Skillbuilder courses: 14321 Linux+ Part 1: Planning and Installing 14322 Linux+ Part 2: Managing Software 14323 Linux+ Part 3: User Administration and Networking 14324 Linux+ Part 4: Administration and Maintenance 14325 Linux+ Part 5: Hardware and Troubleshooting Learn To See individual course descriptions for specific course objectives and scope. Audience The audience includes Linux Professionals and System Administrators with 6 months of experience with the Linux operating system. They provide basic installation, operation, and troubleshooting services and basic system administration tasks. The prerequisites are: - 6 months experience with the Linux operating system - Core hardware examination from A+ revised for Linux, or equivalent experience - Basic computer skills Im basicly wanting to start looking for Linux admin type jobs, just basic sort of stuff, but something to get me out of the job hole im in at the mo :) Anyone ever done these types of corses, or anyone any recomendations for which one to choose, or do i just go for both? Ive done basic linux stuff now for a few years, ive
[Scottish] August's Meeting (and Sept/Oct preview)
August's meeting will be on Thursday 26th August. The first part of the meeting is held in the Department of Computer and Information Sciences Seminar Room (L13.18), Livingston Tower, University of Strathclyde, G1 1XH from 19.30 to 21.00 The second part of the meeting occurs in The Counting House pub on George Square from about 21.00 This month Steven Murdoch (sjmurdoch on IRC, homepage) will be giving 2 short talks: * Using GIMP for fun and profit - a look at techniques used in proprietary graphics software to prevent currency forgery, and the impending legal implications for Open Source graphics solutions. * How I won an X-Box - covert communications in programming competitions. By way of preview, we currently have talks lined up for September and October - in September Kevin McDermott (bigkevmcd) will be talking on BSD, and in October I (mrBen) will be giving a talk on Video Editing in Linux. If anyone is interested in running the meeting in November, then please do contact me - December is likely to be something Christmassy ;) Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] August's Meeting (and Sept/Oct preview)
Ooops - sjmurdochs homepage is http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/sjm217/ Ben Thorp Ben Thorp/UK/Contr/IB [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] scottish-bounces@ cc mailman.lug.org.u k Subject [Scottish] August's Meeting (and Sept/Oct preview) 19/08/2004 10:44 Please respond to SLUG-list August's meeting will be on Thursday 26th August. The first part of the meeting is held in the Department of Computer and Information Sciences Seminar Room (L13.18), Livingston Tower, University of Strathclyde, G1 1XH from 19.30 to 21.00 The second part of the meeting occurs in The Counting House pub on George Square from about 21.00 This month Steven Murdoch (sjmurdoch on IRC, homepage) will be giving 2 short talks: * Using GIMP for fun and profit - a look at techniques used in proprietary graphics software to prevent currency forgery, and the impending legal implications for Open Source graphics solutions. * How I won an X-Box - covert communications in programming competitions. By way of preview, we currently have talks lined up for September and October - in September Kevin McDermott (bigkevmcd) will be talking on BSD, and in October I (mrBen) will be giving a talk on Video Editing in Linux. If anyone is interested in running the meeting in November, then please do contact me - December is likely to be something Christmassy ;) Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] July's Meeting
Sorry for the late announcement :( July's meeting will be on Thursday 29th July. The first part of the meeting is held in the Department of Computer and Information Sciences Seminar Room (L13.18), Livingston Tower, University of Strathclyde, G1 1XH from 19.30 to 21.00 The second part of the meeting occurs in The Counting House pub on George Square from about 21.00 This month, in his last public ScotLUG appearance (due to moving to London) Edward (http://www.4angle.com/edward/) will be talking about GnuPlot. As usual, there should also be a chance for some open Q+A/discussion at both venues. Ben Thorp (mrBen) ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] June's Meeting
June's meeting will be on Thursday 24th June. The first part of the meeting is held in the Department of Computer and Information Sciences Seminar Room (L13.18), Livingston Tower, University of Strathclyde, G1 1XH from 19.30 to 21.00 The second part of the meeting occurs in The Counting House pub on George Square from about 21.00 This month we will have a brief report from the Microsoft 20:20 Linux meetings, and the recent Novell - Linux on the Desktop presentation, from Andrew Calverly (aka MrLithic) We will also have an open, general Q+A session. If you would like to ask any questions in advance, please email them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?
Care to offer a ranking of distros, according to user/newbie friendliness? Based on reviews, and some (but not all) personal experience, I would like to suggest some of the following distros: - Xandros: looks like they've done a lot to make a solid, dependable, Debian-based distro, with the Xandros Networks software install - Lin[dows|spire]: the distro we all love to hate, but it does have usability on its side, plus their 'Click 'N' Run' apt-get frontend allows for easy install of apps. - Mandrake: while they've made a few errors in the past, have consistently aimed to provide a usable, newbie-oriented distribution - Fedora: still very much a work in progress, although with a solid base to work on. As a side note, and one that has oft been repeated, IMO apt-get provides software installation that surpasses that of Windows. One command (or a few clicks in Synaptic, or similar) and the software downloads, including dependencies, and installs (including entries on the menu). mrben ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Failed RPM dependencies - what to do about 'em?
If you are using Mandrake, usr URPMI, it will sort the deps for you Most RPM-based distributions now have some sort of automatic dependency-resolving system. IIRC Fedora uses up2date, Mandrake uses urpmi, and some use apt-rpm Dependency resolution may have been an issue for convertees a few years ago, but now, with the rise of Debian-based distributions (Linspire, Xandros, etc) with apt-get, and the introduction of resolution system for RPMs (as above) it shouldn't really be an issue. (IMHO) Ben -- Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] 2H 2004
We are rapidly approaching the middle of the year - I hope that so far you have enjoyed the content of the meetings. In a very deja-vu-ish way, we could do with people to volunteer to take charge of a meeting over the 2nd half of the year. What this does _not_ mean is that: - You have to 'do' a 'talk'/presentation - You have to be an expert in a Linux-/OSS-related subject - You have to do any 'up-front' work What we could do with are people who are willing to arrange some sort of Linux-related activity for one of the meetings. It's nice to have some informative talks if you are able, but equally simply taking some time to badger people into bring their favourite Linux book, or something similar, is just as useful. If you are interested, and know which months you are likely to be around, then drop me a mail or pm me (mrben_) on IRC. Oh, and I think that those of us who were able to attend the meetings so far this year should take the time to thank those who have been involved in running meetings ;) Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Cheapo digital camera recommendations
For 50-100 you should be able to pick up a decent 2-3 megapixel these days. I've just bought a Hewlett-Packard camera for £100 from Pixmania.com (IIRC) which seems OK. Otherwise, I've also used a 2mp Fujifilm FinePix which had excellent picture quality (you can see some of the pictures from it on http://www.westendletting.co.uk/search.php ) - 1600x1200 photos and very clear. Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26-04-2004 08:09:31: I was looking at picking up one of the little cheap digital cameras which are floating around just now for 50-100 quid. I noticed that Jenners are even doing a tiny 35quid digital camera just now! Anyway - just wondered if anyone had any experience with the real bottom of the range stuff and Linux? Any recommendations? Billy. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Aprils Meeting
April's meeting will be on Thursday 29th April. The first part of the meeting is held in the Department of Computer and Information Sciences Seminar Room (L13.18), Livingston Tower, University of Strathclyde, G1 1XH from 19.30 to 21.00 The second part of the meeting occurs in The Counting House pub on George Square from about 21.00 This month quiz-meister Kev McDermott (aka bigkevmcd) will be running, well, a Quiz. Generally (but not exclusively) Linux-related, and fun for all the family. Look forward to seeing you all there. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Am I the only person locked out of Ebay?
I've been getting that from Moz 1.6 and Firefox on Linux, but its working fine under Windows (Firefox) at work. There is a project (i think called uabar) for adding user-agent changing to mozilla - uabar.mozdev.org IIRC, but I'm not sure that that is the issue. Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25-03-2004 23:49:18: Hi folks, am I the only one finding that I can't log on to Ebay recently? I keep getting an error 'the page contains no data' from Mozilla 1.4 - is there is simple change I can make to Mozilla to allow access? (I seem to remember an option in preferences to present Mozilla as Internet Explorer 5, but I can't remember how to get to it.) The message is also given by Konqueror and Galeon :-( As an Ebay addict, I need my fix - help! Neil ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Marchs Meeting
March's meeting will be on Thursday 25th March. The first part of the meeting is held in the Department of Computer and Information Sciences Seminar Room (L13.18), Livingston Tower, University of Strathclyde, G1 1XH from 19.30 to 21.00 The second part of the meeting occurs in The Counting House pub on George Square from about 21.00 This month Gordon Pearce (aka gordonjcp) will be doing a talk on Wireless Computing. There will also be to usual opportunity for Q+A and discussion. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Marchs Meeting
William Anderson wrote: I thought it was going to be about encryption? Dammit, a good topic when I'm likely going to be in a pub watching Barca v Celtic ... kickoff is at 20:00, so seems silly to turn up for 15 mins then bugger off again, but I'll likely be around in the Counting House later on :) Unfortunately Gordon's talk on encrytion is not quite finished, so but he kindly offered to talk about wireless instead. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner
OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime. I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some unknown reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although it only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor to change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial port, but that does not seem to be working. I am looking, therefore, for the following: 1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or would like a new toy 2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works under Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6 months while I finish the project involved. Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :( Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 10:45:41: Hi, Is this of any help? http://www.globalscan.com/symbol%20ls2000.htm It says you need a decoder to use it. I installed Symbol scanners on a retail contract in 1998 and they plugged into an ISA decoder card inside the till. Actually, the version I have is the 2020 - it says LS2000 on the front, but the side label indicates that it is a LS2020, so according to that page: The LS2020 is a decoded scanner, therefore, it has a built-in RS232 wedge which would enable this scanner to plug in directly to any RS232 serial port. However, your application must know to initialize and open the serial port and send the scanned data to the appropriate place within your software. You can use PortKey Software for this purpose if your application does not support this type of scanner. A special interface cable is required in addition to the scanner. So it looks like I might be screwed software-wise, and hardware-wise :( /me heads back to eBay Maybe you can pick up the decoder on eBay? Graeme On 19 Mar 2004, at 10:18, Ben Thorp wrote: OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime. I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some unknown reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although it only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor to change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial port, but that does not seem to be working. I am looking, therefore, for the following: 1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or would like a new toy 2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works under Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6 months while I finish the project involved. Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :( Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 10:28:33: delurk... Hi I think I know the type of thing you mean. You'll probably need to get a pinout diagram, and make a custom cable. to connect it to the PC. As the connector also takes the power to the scanner, it's not as simple as pluggin it in. I can't remember the pinout myself, but I have a feeling that the scanner is the same as the DATALOGIC. is it about the size of a fag packet with a cut corner where the cable comes out? No - its more of a gun-style one. However, I did get the manuals from the Symbol website, so I have the pinout diagrams. I guessed the big problem was the power. Ultimately, I don't really have the time/inclination to spend a lot of time adapting it, so if someone would like it, they would be welcome to it. Regards Kenny /delurk - Original Message - From: Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime. I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some unknown reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although it only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor to change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial port, but that does not seem to be working. I am looking, therefore, for the following: 1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or would like a new toy 2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works under Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6 months while I finish the project involved. Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :( Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner {Scanned}
nope. tried it on the works laptop (win2k) and it doesn't pick it up at all, and you still get no laser :( Ben Thorp CRM/BTO Contact Centre, EMEA Tel: +44 (0) 1475-892000 Ext: 69688 Visit our Web sites: External: http://www.ibm.com Internal: http://w3.emea.ibm.com/ssc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 15:35:04: Ben, Does it work under windoz? Matt Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote .. OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime. I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some unknown reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although it only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor to change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial port, but that does not seem to be working. I am looking, therefore, for the following: 1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or would like a new toy 2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works under Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6 months while I finish the project involved. Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :( Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the www.ms.mlsis.co.uk MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the www.ms.mlsis.co.uk MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for support. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Suggestions/help with barcode scanner {Scanned}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 16:24:45: Ben, The rs232 port normally gives VERY low power output, even running 2 IR-LEDs can overload some serial ports :( Are you sure there isnt any other connectors for power? No - there aren't. However, I don't think it was designed to go into a normal PC. You can run it off a battery pack, or direct from a 'host' machine according to the manual, but I don't think a PC was what they would normally mean by a host machine. The manual also suggests that the minimum voltage would be 4.5, IIRC When you tried it on w2k did you bring up hyperterminal, connect direcly to the com port (speed 9600/1 stop/no parity) and try typing commands like AT return? No - don't know anything about Win2k ;) Was really just looking to see if any lights came on.. Sorry if im stating the obfious but not sure what stuff you have tried yet :) Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote .. nope. tried it on the works laptop (win2k) and it doesn't pick it up at all, and you still get no laser :( Ben Thorp CRM/BTO Contact Centre, EMEA Tel: +44 (0) 1475-892000 Ext: 69688 Visit our Web sites: External: http://www.ibm.com Internal: http://w3.emea.ibm.com/ssc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19-03-2004 15:35:04: Ben, Does it work under windoz? Matt Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote .. OK - I got burned by an eBay purchase - it had to happen sometime. I picked up a Symbol LS2000 barcode scanner, which comes (for some unknown reason) with a 25 pin male serial plug on the end of the lead (although it only has 9 pins in it). I thought I would be OK just getting an adaptor to change it to a 9-pin female, and then plugging into a standard serial port, but that does not seem to be working. I am looking, therefore, for the following: 1. Somebody with some experience who can either get it working, or would like a new toy 2. A PS/2 barcode scanner (preferred, but serial might do) that works under Linux, that somebody would like to either sell, or lend to me for 6 months while I finish the project involved. Otherwise I'm heading back to eBay to try again :( Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the www.ms.mlsis.co.uk MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the www.ms.mlsis.co.uk MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for support. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the www.ms.mlsis.co.uk MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the www.ms.mlsis.co.uk MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for support. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: XFree86 4.4 RPMs for Mandrake 10.0? (Fulvio Valente)
It appears that the change that is causing all the controversy is that you are now allowed to distribute XFree86 in binary-only form, without the source code. This now makes in incompatible with the GPL, and most like not OSI approved either. The other main difference is the new 'Advertiser clause' which, if I understand correctly, means that if you credit _any_ third-party software in your documentation, or on a splash screen, then you must also credit XFree86. For instance, if I write a GUI application in Python, based on a previous python console script that someone else wrote, if I credit that console script in my splash screen or about page, then I must also credit XFree. This could be a big deal (as you can imagine) IANAL :) Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15-03-2004 12:35:00: Interesting to know WHAT has changed in the license. Had a look at the license page at xfree but it doesn't look suspicious. Anyway. I've simply installed it directly from xfree. Simply follow the readme on the ftp server. There's a simple installation script. It worked for me for debian woody. /Bernd Martin Habets wrote: Don't know about mandrake, but a lot of distributions are refusing to ship XFree 4.4 because it is on a new licence. If you realy want it, you may have to get it from www.xfree.org directly. I've read about plans on a fork that would remain on the old licence, but have not checked if that has already happended. Martin From: Fulvio Valente [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been searching for a XFree 4.4 rpm for a while with no success. If anyone can point me to or make an rpm, I'll be eternally grateful ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Contact information: http://www.cn.stir.ac.uk/~bp1 http://www.linux-usb-daq.com/ ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] storing current directory
export AMB_TMP=`pwd` Ben Allan Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Scottish] storing current directory .lug.org.uk 22-01-04 15:36 Please respond to SLUG-list Hi there, I am modifying a script, and I need to be able to store the current directory, so I can come back to it. I tried export AMB_TMP=pwd but it doesnt work, AMB_TMP becomes 'pwd' rather than the current directory. How would I do this? Thanks Allan ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] storing current directory
Yay! First post :o) Ben Thorp Ben Thorp/UK/Contr/[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: SLUG-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Scottish] storing current directory .lug.org.uk 22-01-04 15:37 Please respond to SLUG-list export AMB_TMP=`pwd` Ben Allan Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Scottish] storing current directory .lug.org.uk 22-01-04 15:36 Please respond to SLUG-list Hi there, I am modifying a script, and I need to be able to store the current directory, so I can come back to it. I tried export AMB_TMP=pwd but it doesnt work, AMB_TMP becomes 'pwd' rather than the current directory. How would I do this? Thanks Allan ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Mailing list to web interface
Sorry for not responding to this previously - I think it must have got caught up in the large amount of work mail I got when I came back from Christmas. I think this sounds like a good idea as a replacement for a forum, but bear in mind that forum traffic/questions tends to be of a slightly different nature to the current mailing-list type stuff. However, the forum is currently a) very underused, and b) a feature that is available on numerous other websites (I for one use the forum at http://www.justlinux.com ), and thus having this alternate interface would allow for a) a feature that differentiates us from other sites, and b) for people to receive answers from the wide range of gurus we have on the mailing list that do not have ready access/time to constantly check a forum. My suggestion would be a two-pronged attack: 1. Implement your suggestion, allowing people to post from the webpage to the list 2. Remove the forum from our website, but have a 'generic' Linux help page, that points to both the communication methods available for ScotLUG (IRC in all forms, mailing-list, new interface for mailing list) and a list of good Linux help pages/forums (justlinux.com, linuxquestions.org etc, etc) Don't know whether thats enough for you to retract your retraction, but mebbe... Ben Thorp Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SLUG-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Scottish] Mailing list to web interface .lug.org.uk 06-01-04 19:30 Please respond to SLUG-list Well, it's good to see such an enthusiastic response from those it concerns. Other than those who already said 'yeah, that would be good. Why not ask the list?' on IRC, there has been SFA response from anyone else. Why bother now? I was inclined to help, but since it would appear that noone can even be arsed to even reply to an email with one word, I'm retracting the suggestion. Regards Kyle Kyle Gordon wrote: Evening all Ok, following more debates on IRC, it would appear that an effective method for communicating mailing list data to the scotlug.org.uk website is required. Since the mailing list is already replicated through gmane, it has been suggested that a NNTP to Web client is implemented on the scotlug site, possibly allowing two-way communciation to the list from the site. So, to summarise... Mailing list -- Usenet (Gmane) -- Site (scotlug.org.uk) That should kill off the mailing list versus web forums argument, with the added benefit of Usenet access for those who want it. All those in favour, say aye... 'Aye' Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Next Meeting
In previous years we have always gone for the Thursday before, although there has often been an additional, informal, meet on one of the other days. I am not a student, but will be spending my Christmas day in Yorkshire, with my family. Had I been spending it in Glasgow, I think my wife would still have banned me from attending a SLUG meet. (women!) Ben Thorp Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ScotLUG Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Scottish] Next Meeting .lug.org.uk 09-12-03 01:11 Please respond to ScotLUG Mailing List Hi The student factor wasn't the main reason for the asking of this question, but was raised when I asked about this issue in #scotlug. The main reason I asked, is because I assumed that most people would be elsewhere on Christmas Day, and have other things to do than come along to a LUG meeting. Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that most people spend time with family/friends/relatives on Christmas Day, but if they do then there isn't much point in having a LUG meeting on that day. Thankfully I'm not at work on the day, but will be spending time at relatives, so count me out (not that I ever come along to the monthly pub trip^W^Wmeet now anyway) Regards Kyle Tony Dyer wrote: How about we leave it at the last Thursday of the month. This LUG caters for more than students! -- Copyright 2003 by W. N. Dyer; all rights reserved. First class web hosting from 11 at http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=5075954 ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Next meet - 27/11/03
What are the chances of us getting some talks organised for the beginning of next year? Much as I enjoy the Counting House, I miss the other bits too. Even if we include things like 'tool of the month night' and 'how I got into Linux night' every few months, or something, to ease the pressure, it would be nice to set something up (I am assuming that Strathclyde Uni is still open to us as a venue)? Thoughts, anyone? (Or, even better, offers to do a talk) Ben Thorp As an aside - it appears that you can no longer 'Reply-To', as it goes to an individual, rather than back to the list (sorry Kyle)? William Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Scottish] Next meet - 27/11/03 .lug.org.uk 26-11-03 12:23 Kyle Gordon wrote: Well, it's that time of the month again (ooer missus and all that), and ScotLUG rolls on another month. In the same pattern as last month, it'll be direct to the Counting House again. I'll be sitting in departures at Prestwick waiting for a flight to Dublin at that point in time - have fun all :) Mebbe I'll see folks at Radman's Lan thingy on the 6th? -- _ __/| ___ ___ __ _ When Microsoft Office is your only hammer, \`O_o' / _ \/ -_) // / __/ _ \ pretty much everything begins to look like =(_ _)=/_//_/\__/\_,_/_/ \___/ a nail. Or a thumb. -- Rob Pegoraro U - Ack! Phttpt! Thhbbt! neuro at well dot com http://neuro.me.uk/ ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Couple of things
Hello S.L.U.G, Firstly does anyone know what RAID 00, RAID 1E, RAID 1E0, RAID 5E are, as defined by IBM on the ServeRAID-4LX? I think I can guess that 00 is a stripe over two stripe sets, but the others? And don't even mention the amount of disks needed for RAID 50! According to this document: www.ibm.com/storage/europe/pdfs/raid_methods_nas.pdf RAID 5E is RAID 5 Enhanced: RAID 5E (Enhanced)puts hot spares to work to improve reliability and performance.A hot spare is normally inactive during array operation and is not used until a drive fails.By utilizing unallocated space on the drives in the array, a virtual hot spare is created.By putting the hot spare to work,performance improves because more heads are writing the data.In the event of a drive failure,the RAID controller will start rearranging the data from the failed disk into the spare space on the other drives in the array.Thus,with RAID 5E,you receive the advantages of RAID 5,but with additional performance provided by putting the hot spare to work. My guess would be that RAID 1E is similar to this. RAID 10 normally equals RAID 1+0, and therefore 1E0 would probably be RAID 1E+0. On this line of thought, RAID 00 is probably 0+0, if this is possible (can you double-stripe?) ?!? Oh, and Mark, if you have any hubs left, I would take one if no-one else wants it ;o) Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer?
If you don't have a printer that works in Linux, then your needs are greater than mine, as I do. Ben Thorp ptb [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .co.uk cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [Scottish] Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer? [EMAIL PROTECTED] .lug.org.uk 12-06-03 23:26 Please respond to scottish Hallo : - I've never had a ps printer yet so if it's one of those i.e. should work in Linux I'd be interested and could collect Friday or whenever and store in Woodlands where Ben could come and convince me his need is greater than mine. email or 'phone 554 5582 as early in the day as suits you (best) or 332 0648 as the afternoon proceeds. Thanks, Pat On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:54:23 +0100 Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll take it if no-one else wants it, but I might not be able to pick it up until after the weekend. Ben Thorp David Marsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ara.co.ukcc: Sent by: Subject: [Scottish] Anybody want an HP Deskjet 500 printer? [EMAIL PROTECTED] .lug.org.uk 12-06-03 15:54 Please respond to scottish I have an old HP Deskjet 500 printer that I no longer require. Would anybody like it? It's in perfect working order although, as you would expect given its age, it's a little slow and has a resolution of 'only' 300dpi. I'm in the Woodlands area of Glasgow and if you'd like it, you'd have to pick it up from me as I don't have any transport. If there are no takers, it's going out with the rubbish.. -- David Marsh, Glasgow, Scotland, N Europe. | http://web.viewport.co.uk/ email valid @time of writing, but reply to list preferred, thanks. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r0 Sylpheed 0.7.4 are free software Free as in http://fsfeurope.org/ or http://www.fsf.org/ also http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ http://www.ukcdr.org/ http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] May 2003 ScotLUG Meeting
Are we not meeting in the Uni to start with? Make sure you put up notices, after the debacle last time. mrBen (Ben Thorp) Kenny Duffus [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org cc: Sent by: Subject: [Scottish] May 2003 ScotLUG Meeting [EMAIL PROTECTED] .lug.org.uk 28/05/2003 04:46 PM Please respond to scottish This months meeting of the Scottish Linux Users group will be on thursday 29th May. The meeting will be in the Counting House pub, corner of Queen Street and St. Vincent Street, Glasgow: http://www.scotlug.org.uk/images/venue_details.gif and will start from 19.30, look out for the bunch of people with laptops fighting over the power sockets :-) Kenny C.DTF has been removed from this note on May 29 2003 by Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Fw: LUG Screening
me too Ben Thorp Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [Scottish] Fw: LUG Screening [EMAIL PROTECTED] .lug.org.uk 29/05/2003 12:07 PM Please respond to scottish Yeah, I like the sound of that. I'm up for it :-) Kyle On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:34, William Anderson wrote: I dropped an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] just checking it would be OK to screen the Revolution OS DVD at the meeting in June, and got this back from the director ... :) Is everyone cool with this idea of showing the film next month? I know there have been positive noises from #scotlug. If no-one really objects, I can let them know when we'll be showing it, and we could possibly chuck a news link up on scotlug.org.uk - I think it would be a good intro for those not 100% certain of the stories behind free software. J.T.S. Moore wrote: William, Thank you for purchasing REVOLUTION OS! Since you have already purchased the DVD, I am happy to give you permission to screen it for you LUG. All you need to do is e-mail me the time and place of your LUG screening. I will try to post it to the revolution-os.com website. Also, if you could give you LUG a brief sales pitch about the DVD I would truly appreciate it. I am self-distributing the DVD. So I need all the help I can get :-) Best Wishes, J.T.S. Moore Director, REVOLUTION OS William Anderson wrote: Hi, I purchased the Revolution OS DVD from thinkgeek.com and I'd like to do a screening of the movie at the LUG I attend in Glasgow, UK - do I have to get some permission from yourselves before I get the goahead for this? Thanks for any help you can provide. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] at76c503 wireless usb adaptor
Having had to fiddle with one of the NTL USB broadband boxes, I know that they made a number of improvements to the USB/Ethernet bridge stuff in the 2.4.20, which might mean that you will need to upgrade the kernel in order for it to work properly. Having said that, the page at http://masqmail.cx/at76c503/ suggests that this driver, while being developed on 2.4.20, has also been known to work on 2.4.19? Ben Thorp rayH [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ence.co.uk cc: Sent by:Subject: [Scottish] at76c503 wireless usb adaptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] rg.uk 11/03/03 08:24 Please respond to scottish OK this is sheer laziness; asking here before I make more than a half-hearted attempt.. I bought a couple of usb wirless lan adaptors with at76c503 chips (Maplins @£40 each). Plugged one in and dmesg gives: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 14 usb.c: USB device 14 (vend/prod 0x3eb/0x7605) is not claimed by any active driver Download at76c503-0.9 it recommends 2.4.20 kernel, but try make; make install anyway.. A few errors, which I might read later. # modprobe -v at76c503 modprobe: Can't locate module at76c503 Has anyone got one of these devices working? Should I up the kernel (which will cause hassle with Win4Lin VMware)? Has anyone else read the instructions before I have to? I have SuSE 8.1 kernel 2.4.19 -- ray ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Need advice on setting up a Mandrake/Debian home network
OK - I'll try and give you a start on this. Hi everybody, I'm trying to network two machines together to make a home network. One machine, 192.168.1.10pepper.viewport.lan is the main machine, which has the connection to the internet (by modem) and is running Debian sarge. The other machine, 192.168.1.11salt.viewport.lan will only be connected to the outside world through pepper (by network cable) and is running Mandrake 9.0. Nice names ;) (I'm playing with Mandrake since I'm considering that pointy-clicky might just be a nicer way (for me - no holy wars, please) to get things working rather than spend what often seems like forever hacking with config files) Both machines have realtek 8139 network cards attached. Are there any Mandrake experts out there who can advise me on the Mandrake way to get this network up and running? (ie, some gentle handholding would be much welcomed :-) I've started up the Mandrake Control Center, selected Network Internet, and then selected Connection. Seems like a good start. Umm, what now? Obviously there are two steps involved (at least!). 1 Getting both machines to see each other over the local network. 2 Configuring pepper to share its internet connection (and getting salt to use that as its internet connection) On the Mandrake box (salt) what values should I put in for DNS server and Gateway in the wizard? How should I let salt know about the other machine (pepper)? Do I have to edit /etc/hosts by hand, or is there a better way to do it? OK - on the Debian box you will probably need to edit your /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to make sure things are nice 'n' secure. You'll also need to ensure that your eth0 has been allocated it's IP address (ifconfig should help here). I think you will also need to setup iptables (or ipchains, I forget) for the internet sharing stuff. On the Mandrake box, you should be able to do all of this by the Control Center, IIRC. Your Gateway is going to be your Debian box. Your DNS server is likely to be the one provided by your ISP, unless you fancy running BIND on the Debian box ;) This and further advice would be very welcome, thanks.. Further advice? Don't eat the yellow snow. David. Ben Thorp mrBen ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Need advice on setting up a Mandrake/Debian home network
There are also some helpful help files at http://www.justlinux.com You might like to try the one on Routing at http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Networks/Routing.html They also have a couple on using ipchains, but nothing yet on iptables. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free to a good home.
I'd be interested in one or other of the harddrives and the mobo+processor - although I have very little exp (ie none) with twin boards - I am assuming it is fully Linux compat, and would I be able to slot it nicely into a standard ATX case. Ben Thorp Hitachi Global Storage Technologies Support Centre ibm.com Service Centre, EMEA Tel: 0870-010 2866 Ext: 69688 Visit our ibm.com Web sites: External: http://www.ibm.com Internal: http://w3.emea.ibm.com/ssc Ian Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] o.uk cc: Sent by: Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. scottish-admin@mailman .lug.org.uk 21/02/03 06:35 Please respond to scottish hello I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: 133 Processor Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics card, and keyboard. 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. 2 hard disk drives: 1 x 3Gb Seagate 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south of Aberdeen(Portlethen). I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not much used - any offers? Regards Ian -- Ian Robertson Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Certification Centres
Thanks for all the replies - I had a look at the VUE website (now I remember that I had been before, but the training centre locator was not working that day) and discovered that, among a couple of other places, Cardonald College in the centre of Glasgow does the exams, so I'll be going down that route I think. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Certification Centres
OK, without getting into a big discussion on the merits of getting Linux certification, I was wondering if anyone knew of a (preferably central-belt) training centre where I could take the Linux Professional Institute exams, without have to take (and pay through the nose for) a big training course. I just want to pay for and sit the exams. (Oh, and slightly OT, but http://www.sdit.co.uk/products/range.asp?prid=9 have some nice cheap Linux boxes - £199 inc VAT + delivery for an AMD Duron1300, 128Mb RAM, RedHat 8.0 preinstalled!) Ben Thorp (mrBen) ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] FlameWar: Window managers
I've been using Fluxbox happily for a long time now - very easy on the hardware, very little window or desktop 'clutter'. If you like icons, simply add something like idesk or acidlaunch. And it's rock solid, IMHO. Ben Thorp Paul Millar [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: scotlug [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [Scottish] FlameWar: Window managers scottish-admin@mailman .lug.org.uk 29/01/03 11:06 Please respond to scottish On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Colin McKinnon wrote: Guess who got root-kitted last week. }:^ Join the gang. I think anyone worth their salt has been done. It helps to keep the healthy paranoia going. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I decided to try out RH8.0. I'm not very impressed. Previously my box (266MHz K6 / 128Mb) was running RH 7 with a Ximian Gnome desktop and all was stable, and reasonably perky. Now I can only use the Gnome desktop if I log in as root (and go make a coffee while it's starting). Even then, it falls over after about 30 minutes of use. Until I get a new job I ain't going to be upgrading my hardware, so I'm thinking I might just put on a different Window manager (mwm works - but its just so ugly - and I need a launcher and file manager). Any recommendations for something thats easy on the eyes and the hardware? Have you tried the Debian way? I've not yet, but a friend has switched from RH to Debian (basically because of RH8.0) and he says its great. I don't know how hardware-hungry it is, though. Cheers, Paul. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory Experimental) GroupsDr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Glasgow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] When and where are the meetings?
Welcome. The meetings are on the last Thursday of the month, beginning at 7.30pm in the CIS Staff Room on the 11th floor of some big Strathclyde Uni building. I think there is a map on the website http://www.scotlug.org.uk At 9.00pm we 'retire' to the Counting House on George Square for a few light ales and more geekspeak. Hope to see you there. Ben (mrBen on IRC) Mark Marsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ScotLUG Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: scottish-admin@mailmanSubject: [Scottish] When and where are the meetings? .lug.org.uk 14/11/02 16:17 Please respond to scottish Im a new subsciber to this List. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Talk Suggestions ?
To make things simpler, why not have a series of mini-talks that people can more easily get involved in? Some suggestions: 1. Tool of the Month (supposedly already in place) 2. Book of the Month 3. 'How I got into Linux' 4. This is my setup and this is how Linux works with it all Then people can join in more easily, and then perhaps you can have one big talk only once every 3 months or something? Just my £0.02 Ben Thorp (mrBen) ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
RE: [Scottish] Strange DNS problem
So DNS may well be up, you just can't see it - it's the network that's down, got any crontabs running monthly on the 27th? Not that I can see, although I'll doublecheck what does an ifconfig and a route show give when your getting this outage? maybe even a dump of netstat -ap might reveal something, I'll tell you next month ;o) are your modem light (dial-up right?) Yes - dial-up going mental when you are down, is someone dossing you for a few hours a month? Possibly. Although I don't stay connected when it happens, I just disconnect. So they won't get much joy. mrBen ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
