Re: [Scottish] OT:Par-tay
Yep, I'll be there! ;-) (After work though) Kyle On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 16:49, Ben Thorp wrote: OK - the wife and I are having a flat-warming party on Saturday, and I've love some SLUGgers to be there (so that I've got someone interesting to talk to). It'd probably help if you know me by face, but it's not really a requirement. So if you'd like to pop along and checkout the WLAN possibilities of my top floor flat, then you'd be welcome. Drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you're planning on putting in an appearance. Ben Thorp (aka mrBen) ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] just a test --- please ignore
Can you send it again? I didn't seem to get it... Kyle On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 10:12, willie fleming wrote: JUst seeing how slow this really is... sent from here at 10:11 -- Best Regards Willie Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Next weeks talk, or not
So, who's doing a talk? If anyone? Is there anything special planned for this months meeting, or are we having another informal chat? Just curious -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Fw: LUG Screening
Yeah, I like the sound of that. I'm up for it :-) Kyle On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:34, William Anderson wrote: I dropped an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] just checking it would be OK to screen the Revolution OS DVD at the meeting in June, and got this back from the director ... :) Is everyone cool with this idea of showing the film next month? I know there have been positive noises from #scotlug. If no-one really objects, I can let them know when we'll be showing it, and we could possibly chuck a news link up on scotlug.org.uk - I think it would be a good intro for those not 100% certain of the stories behind free software. J.T.S. Moore wrote: William, Thank you for purchasing REVOLUTION OS! Since you have already purchased the DVD, I am happy to give you permission to screen it for you LUG. All you need to do is e-mail me the time and place of your LUG screening. I will try to post it to the revolution-os.com website. Also, if you could give you LUG a brief sales pitch about the DVD I would truly appreciate it. I am self-distributing the DVD. So I need all the help I can get :-) Best Wishes, J.T.S. Moore Director, REVOLUTION OS William Anderson wrote: Hi, I purchased the Revolution OS DVD from thinkgeek.com and I'd like to do a screening of the movie at the LUG I attend in Glasgow, UK - do I have to get some permission from yourselves before I get the goahead for this? Thanks for any help you can provide. ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Pcomail Failing
Would this not be a configuration option within your mail server? In my
exim.conf file, I have
procmail:
driver = localuser
transport = procmail_pipe
require_files =
${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
no_verify
I would imagine (for Exim at least) you would insert the /users/ directory
into the require_files directive, and it should all automagically work again
:-)
Regards
Kyle
On Monday 23 June 2003 13:52, Stuart Mc Anderson wrote:
Hi All,
I was running procmail on all my user accounts up to about a week ago.
Then i moved the home folder of the accounts to /home/users/USERNAME and
now procmail isnt working. All the files were moved, and .procmailrc is in
the new home dir as before. Does anyone know how to get Procmail working
agian?
--
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Re: [Scottish] 8 Port 10/100 Switches for sale
Scratch me down for one please :-) (Already asked on #scotlug, but thought I'd mail just to confirm it) Kyle On Sunday 29 June 2003 12:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, last chance for some of these 10/100 8port Switches, order goes in on tuesday morning (01/07/03). The switches are desktop 8port (ports are to the rear) with magnetic feet, so you can stick it to the side of your PC case. They have 1 up-link port (shared with port 8, so if you use them with another hub, uplinking, you can only use 7 ports). Price to slug members is £20.00 inc vat (normal price £22.00). Delivery can be to Glasgow if required, althow this would be chargable in cans of beer or book tokens :) otherwise you can collect from Dumbarton Yours Matt Lowe (marlowe,marl_mobile,marl_text,pc2000) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Poisoned Spam
I've seen this happen twice in the past 4 months. Don't know if it's anything to worry about, but I just put it down to random errors (2 out of ~7000 isn't too significant :-p ) I'll keep an eye out for it to see if it happens again, and I'll grab a copy if it does. Regards Kyle On Tuesday 15 July 2003 21:31, Colin McKinnon wrote: Is it just me? I've been responsible for the care and feeding of a lot of mailboxes. I've seen SMTP queues stalled, and lots of messages bounced due to bad formatting. But until this week I never had trouble getting mail out of a POP3 mailbox. In the last week, I've had _three_ mailboxes across two servers getting clogged with spam messages which won't download through POP3 because of problems with the headers. It seems a little strange (and far to quiet on this list!) Colin ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Swap partitions -- do modern boxen really need them? Discuss
On a slightly related note, with the new 2.6 kernel you now get suspend to swap. This can be slightly problematic if you have less swap than (in use) RAM I see your point though, 2xRAM swap does seem slightly excessive, and is probably useless, unless you have a laptop that you wish to use swsusp on. Even then you'd probably only need a little bit more swap than you have RAM. Talking of which... is there anyway to assign X amount of swap, but only let the kernel use a specific amount? Regards Kyle On Wednesday 16 July 2003 10:01, willie fleming wrote: Many users now have 512Mb RAM. Do we really need to allocate 2x RAM for swap? Discuss Willie ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Swap partitions -- do modern boxen really need them? Discuss
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 12:20, Kevin McDermott wrote: * Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 16. 2003 12:15]: On a slightly related note, with the new 2.6 kernel you now get suspend to swap. This can be slightly problematic if you have less swap than (in use) RAM I see your point though, 2xRAM swap does seem slightly excessive, and is probably useless, unless you have a laptop that you wish to use swsusp on. Even then you'd probably only need a little bit more swap than you have RAM. Disk is cheap, RAM isn't as cheap, even with 4Gb of RAM you only need 8Gb of SWAP space (at 2xSwap), given that 80Gb and 120Gb disks are becoming the norm, 8Gb of disk space doesn't seem that bad... Perhaps 8Gb is excessive, but, it's a tried and tested rule-of-thumb. Talking of which... is there anyway to assign X amount of swap, but only let the kernel use a specific amount? To what end? If you're using swap on LVM, you can alter the swap-space at will (this is highly recommended on boxes where you think you're gonna boost the RAM). I'd like to use swsusp to suspend my laptop to disk. However, with 256Mb RAM, and my affection for KDE, I regularly find myself eating into the 256Mb swap that I have. I might, in some instances, be using a total of say, 300Mb, so it attempts to save 300Mb into a 256 swapspace... I could resize my partitions to cope (lack of foresight - my fault anyway) and give it more swap, but how can I be sure that it doesn't use up more that space either? I know this may sound strange, and I've probably got the wrong end of the stick when it comes to swap matters, so feel free to LART me. Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Swap partitions -- do modern boxen really need them? Discuss
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 12:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talking of which... is there anyway to assign X amount of swap, but only let the kernel use a specific amount? I'm not sure why you would want to do this. Would creating multiple swap partitions but only telling the kernel about some of them do what you want? Not sure about that. I'll need to read up a bit more about swsusp. Also see my reply to Kevin about why I think I'd like to do this. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] The yellow peril?
On Friday 25 July 2003 11:45, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 11:39, Willie Fleming wrote: I have to say this is a particularly unpleasant racist topic title. Whats the betting I would have got flamed rotten if I had described 419 scams as More msgs to be blacked or simiar. As for the Falun Gong idea, just try the same with UK or US based spammers only substituting IRA or Al Queada. This implied criticism of the Chinese people and their perfectly legitimate attempts to protect their culture is totally unwarranted. Or post to http://tips.fbi.gov And on visiting said address, you get Service Unavailable... :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Re: Weirdness
William Anderson writes: Mark Robinson wrote: Hello S.L.U.G, I have a debian fileserver that was playing silly buggers at me earlier! It was complaining badly cos it's root filesystem was full, which is not a bad complaint in itself, except that it's a 1.4G partition and only has a couple of hundred meg on it! [snip] might wanna check you didn't have anything mounted on top of / hiding stuff - Kyle (bagpuss) can relate to this problem, we found the same thing on one of his boxen a couple of months ago Yeah, that was fun. If memory serves me right, there was a cronjob running every 5 minutes, firing off an rsync from one machine to /mnt/backup on another. However, /mnt/backup hadn't been mounted correctly, and rsync was just piling the data into the directory instead of the correct partition, resulting in / filling up rather quickly :-p Of course, since the rsync was still running when I mounted the partition correctly, it still wrote to the old space until all rsync processes had been killed and crontab had been left to start them again. Regards Kyle -- _ __/| ___ ___ __ _ When Microsoft Office is your only hammer, \`O_o' / _ \/ -_) // / __/ _ \ pretty much everything begins to look like =(_ _)=/_//_/\__/\_,_/_/ \___/ a nail. Or a thumb. -- Rob Pegoraro U - Ack! Phttpt! Thhbbt! neuro at well dot com http://neuro.me.uk/ ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Epson EPL5700L
Hey all Has anyone had any success in getting the Epson EPL5700L (that 'L' suffix is the important bit) working on Linux through CUPS? I know that the printer requires data in its own special 'EPL' format, but I'm not sure how CUPS handles the conversion process. Due to a weird setup, my printer is connected through a JetDirect 170x print server. Pointing CUPS at the 170x and telling it to use the LPR queue on port 9100 seems to get the data sent to the printer, but the printer locks up just after recieving the data, which is a sure sign that the data is in the wrong format. If I upload an EPL file to the FTP server on the 170x, then the printer prints fine, so all the communication methods seem to be in order, just not the file formats. Any further thoughts on this? On an unrelated note, if anyone is going to the meet tomorrow, do you all fancy bringing along some photographic ID and your GPG keys? Regards Kyle signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Re: Epson EPL5700L
Colin McKinnon writes: On Wednesday 29 October 2003 21:45, Kyle Gordon wrote: Has anyone had any success in getting the Epson EPL5700L (that 'L' suffix is the important bit) working on Linux through CUPS? I know that the printer requires data in its own special 'EPL' format, but I'm not sure how CUPS handles the conversion process. I've gone off Epson printers. Join the club :-) Due to a weird setup, my printer is connected through a JetDirect 170x print server. Pointing CUPS at the 170x and telling it to use the LPR queue on port 9100 seems to get the data sent to the printer, but the printer locks up just after recieving the data, which is a sure sign that the data is in the wrong format. and there are few peices of technology I dislike more than HP Jetdirect cards! I got it and the Epson for free, so I can't really complain. And, bonus, it allows me to wire up the printer anywhere there is a network cable (or spare wireless AP in client mode) IIRC, port 9100 (,9101,9102...) on a Jetdirecct card simply relays its output to the parallel port - i.e. it don't talk BSD printer. A quick shufty on the internet suggests that the 170x don't talk lpd at all. You could try using netcat to send a print file to port 9100 on the 170x - which should work. Alternatively you could just tell cups to get on with it by using a device URI of the form: socket://printer.ip.address:9100 I tried these suggestions, but the printer still just went into its error condition, and needed power cycled. I've given up on this machine, and relegated the Epson to the pile of bits to flog on Ebay at some point. In it's place, I dug out an HP 4000 (previously thought to be dead) from the garage, set it up, and it worked instantly with minimum of hassle. :-) HTH Colin Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Next meet - 27/11/03
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Morning all, Well, it's that time of the month again (ooer missus and all that), and ScotLUG rolls on another month. In the same pattern as last month, it'll be direct to the Counting House again. I'm sure all the regular frivolity will ensue, and newstarts to GNU/Linux are more than welcome. _Usually_ we'll all be in the front-left corner of the pub, possibly in a few groups. Hope you all have a good time! Kyle -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/xJR9l4cZwpbv7iIRAk+mAJwN4jiGrwodVaDgHQAoy37NO0d9CQCeIH8o f7jloEpbpnasay31mc5lzo0= =dfGr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Re: Next meet - 27/11/03
William Anderson writes: Kyle Gordon wrote: Well, it's that time of the month again (ooer missus and all that), and ScotLUG rolls on another month. In the same pattern as last month, it'll be direct to the Counting House again. I'll be sitting in departures at Prestwick waiting for a flight to Dublin at that point in time - have fun all :) Mebbe I'll see folks at Radman's Lan thingy on the 6th? Likewise, I won't be able to come along. I'll be at work until 11pm. I will be at Radmans LAN party on the 6th though. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Next Meeting
Hi The student factor wasn't the main reason for the asking of this question, but was raised when I asked about this issue in #scotlug. The main reason I asked, is because I assumed that most people would be elsewhere on Christmas Day, and have other things to do than come along to a LUG meeting. Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that most people spend time with family/friends/relatives on Christmas Day, but if they do then there isn't much point in having a LUG meeting on that day. Thankfully I'm not at work on the day, but will be spending time at relatives, so count me out (not that I ever come along to the monthly pub trip^W^Wmeet now anyway) Regards Kyle Tony Dyer wrote: How about we leave it at the last Thursday of the month. This LUG caters for more than students! -- Copyright 2003 by W. N. Dyer; all rights reserved. First class web hosting from 11 at http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=5075954 ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] The Future of the LUG (was: Re: Next Meeting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 09 December 2003 19:40, Allan Whiteford wrote: Ian Ruffell wrote: (e.g. my major concern still is the Access replacement - both Rekall and Kexio are getting there, perhaps) but also to do with institutions and processes. Ian, What's Kexio? I'm guessing it's a tyop since google only returns 9 results, none of which seem relevant or maybe google is just having a bad day. Anyway, can you supply a link and/or correct the typo? I'd have a vague (non-commercial) interest in the program if it were free[1] (which Rekall isn't). I believe he was meaning Kexi, from http://www.koffice.org/kexi/ BTW: Is it just me or is the reply-to field not being set correctly on the mailing list? Not sure, I use 'Reply to mailing list' in kmail. I'll have another look at the mailman options when I get into work. Thanks, Allan Regards Kyle [1] Free as in however you'd like to define it. -- A bad random number generator: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4.33e+67, 1, 1, 1... ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1kGxl4cZwpbv7iIRAgLqAJ94YSNne8C59tkmAQ391BkuEAaZdACfTkH9 4PLewKJYZ+p4Srbm7oG0npI= =5wDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] The Future of the LUG (was: Re: Next Meeting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 09 December 2003 19:03, Phil Deane wrote: On Tuesday 09 Dec 2003 14:40, William Anderson wrote: Is it time perhaps to rename ourselves the Glasgow LUG? Also, the Scottish LUG could be reused as an umbrella organisation, perhaps uniting the other LUGs in Scotland to form a larger community ... This could be an excellent way of getting LUGs to work together in a variety of ways, maybe encouraging other LUGs to be formed to cater for local communities where there is no LUG (Inverness? Oban? Ayr? Orkneys?) and would allow ourselves to refocus on the task of being a user group for Glasgow, and not the whole of Scotland. But then we would be GLUG? Which in itself, sounds like a bunch of pissheads(We at least have to keep up the facade of being sensible) Maybe GlasLUG then? I dunno, maybe it sounds silly. We've referred to the group as ScotLUG for a long time, stick with the pattern? I have been to a few Meetings, which initially were held at Borders, which suited me as I worked in town, and usually worked late.(why was Borders finished with?, I always thought it was a good neutral place) If I recall correctly, Borders ran out of space and an alternative venue was sought. Strathclyde Uni had space, and we were allowed to use it. Now with a different job, i finish at 5, and normally dont fancy hanging around town for 2 1/2 hours before the meeting, which explains why I havn't been to one for a few years. Also being customer facing, and having a 9am appointment on Firdays I dont like to drink the night before, and I its against my irishness to go into a pub and not drink :) -- Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1kKDl4cZwpbv7iIRAtiXAJ4tw0AoCc7U4u1hn3QElQgYsWY8RACfbi6x smNaHzVqKXhE9ZpBfyhn5Sw= =FTrZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] The Future of the LUG (was: Re: Next Meeting)
Ben Thorp wrote: Unfortunately I don't have access to IRC from work, and I'm not always free in the evening :o( However, I will try and attend more. I posted a topic with some suggestions for talks/topics for the next 6 months on the webpage. It went something like this: Jan - Bring your favourite Linux Book Feb - Debate - will Linux be ready for the desktop in 2004 Mar - Individual speaker Apr - Easter pub event/quiz May - Installing Linux on laptops (individual speaker) Jun - Individual speaker Tony has advised that he doesn't think that a debate is a good idea, so we can change that one. But we've had two people offer talks - 1 on installing and running Smootwall, the other on installing Linux for beginners. Plus Tony has offered to do a beginners corner each month. I think this sounds like a good plan. Maybe a question and answer session like before, as we've done this already and it often leads to a good chitchat about linux and computing in general. It would be nice to get all this confirmed soonish - can someone who listens here and is on IRC regularly pass it on there, and maybe we can get this all sorted before year-end, and not have to worry for 6 months!?! The IRC fans have seen this :-) Another alternative would be to specify an IRC meeting time so that all the IRC bods, plus anyone else who has access but doesn't always sit on IRC (like me) can attend and talk it over. Shouldn't take more than 30-60 minutes. We recently did a similar thing on the Nixhelp network, so that the admins/ops etc could discuss things at a central point in time. It proved to be extremely useful, and everyone went away feeling positive. I'm not sure how to best go about this kind of meeting, but it could prove useful in the long run. On the other hand, email is a pretty instantaneous method of communication, it just needs people to be at their email client all the time :-p It would be good for different folks to offer to do a month - not necessarily give a talk or anything, but just to take control, and make sure it all happens smoothly - for instance, someone who has a Linux book, who is happy to just bring it in January, and say This is my favourite Linux book because for 2 minutes would be a start. Also, sounds good, although requires some formality, which from previous situations some people seem to be opposed to. Maybe they will warm to the rotational style of organising, preventing any one person from leading the way. I'd be happy to try and sort something out. (But be warned, my public speaking skills are terrible :-p) I believe we have a really good thing in our LUG, but that we need to give it a little TLC. True. Every little bit helps Ben Thorp (PS - whats with the mailing list - keep getting funny reply-to addresses?) No idea :-p Regards Kyle William Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Scottish] The Future of the LUG (was: Re: Next Meeting) .lug.org.uk 09-12-03 14:40 Willie wrote: [snip] OK not everyone is near Glasgow and like it or not, whether we call ourselves the Scottish LUG we are effectively the Glasgow LUG. Although by all accounts a successful LAN party was held through in the mysterious east at the weekend. Is it time perhaps to rename ourselves the Glasgow LUG? Also, the Scottish LUG could be reused as an umbrella organisation, perhaps uniting the other LUGs in Scotland to form a larger community ... This could be an excellent way of getting LUGs to work together in a variety of ways, maybe encouraging other LUGs to be formed to cater for local communities where there is no LUG (Inverness? Oban? Ayr? Orkneys?) and would allow ourselves to refocus on the task of being a user group for Glasgow, and not the whole of Scotland. I personally have been humbled and astounded by the membership of our LUG, both by the amount of knowledge we all have as a whole, and in the friendly manner in which we (normally!) conduct ourselves. But as a community, I think it's fair to say we're not performing under the remit of embracing Linux (and other Open Source / Free Software) communities in and around Glasgow, and helping those who haven't the time or experience to get fully into Linux. To my knowledge, it's quite some time since an Install Day took place, and as Willie says, all we're really doing these days is meeting at the Counting House and drinking (not that that's a bad thing in and of itself!), so I think we should all take the time to have a think about the LUG, what each of us can contribute, and delurking if possible to have your say, and have your contribution made. Let's muck in! :) OK two suggestions -- non IRC folk,
[Scottish] Mailing list changes
Hey all, I've made some changes to the list options that should fix the reply-to issues we've been having. If someone wants to give it another test, on you go ;-) Currently mailman will not strip and replace any existing reply-to headers, this can be a good (http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html) thing and a bad (http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml) thing, and can be changed if required. Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Mailing list changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 11 December 2003 03:12, Kyle Gordon wrote: Hey all, I've made some changes to the list options that should fix the reply-to issues we've been having. If someone wants to give it another test, on you go ;-) Currently mailman will not strip and replace any existing reply-to headers, this can be a good (http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html) thing and a bad (http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml) thing, and can be changed if required. Bleh, swap the URLS around. Copy and paste silliness on my part Regards Kyle Me again ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/2L35l4cZwpbv7iIRAvFUAJ9oa4jiP0cI1Y324sTWceTUbsMnlwCeJziR xGfc3p2K81iG4drtEDfRsHM= =RuJy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Christmas pissup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think the #scotlug topic says it all... Topic for #scotlug: Xmas pissup, Counting House, this Saturday? (and for the alcoholics like me, drinks on thursday in the CH too?) I hasten to add this is not my topic, but it was suggested that this go to the list. Have fun if you go ;-) Kyle -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/4NRQl4cZwpbv7iIRAjBTAKCCpP2F4ANigvQDpXVlW6SmuP4CkQCfavfR PH9SaPBd7wapCxpoE5l2ngI= =nLWR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Free kit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all I have the following kit available for anyone who wants it. AMD K6 233, 4 SIMM w/ 64Mb, and 2 DIMM sockets, 3 ISA 4 PCI, Case, ATX PSU Pentium 100, 4 SIMM sockets w/ 24Mb, 5 ISA, 3PCI (1 shared), Case, ATX PSU Mobo, 486SX2-S, 66Mhz, 4 SIMM sockets w/ 16Mb , 3 PCI, 4 ISA (1 Extended) First come first served. If it's not out of my care by the 31st December it's being binned. Kyle -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/4xS+l4cZwpbv7iIRAlLMAJ4uw7BWvcEKUkq6hqrkXrEvm/QwJACcCl2H jLw9dDkODWyN4QmTuQnlRuw= =EgXc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free kit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you're not fast, you're last. A taker for them all has been found and contacted me in #scotlug. Regards Kyle On Friday 19 December 2003 15:09, Kyle Gordon wrote: Hey all I have the following kit available for anyone who wants it. AMD K6 233, 4 SIMM w/ 64Mb, and 2 DIMM sockets, 3 ISA 4 PCI, Case, ATX PSU Pentium 100, 4 SIMM sockets w/ 24Mb, 5 ISA, 3PCI (1 shared), Case, ATX PSU Mobo, 486SX2-S, 66Mhz, 4 SIMM sockets w/ 16Mb , 3 PCI, 4 ISA (1 Extended) First come first served. If it's not out of my care by the 31st December it's being binned. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/4xaFl4cZwpbv7iIRAmNDAJ4tXRBFWUpexjhOPlaYFupVMyyCzACcCK+Q hZruK07owFGJAMqjPAq63PQ= =QXyj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] ScotLUG 2004
Ok, that was a bit of an abrupt reply. A more thought out reply would have pointed people towards http://www.scotlug.org.uk/public/photos/, which has real names, photos, and nicknames where applicable. Still a little out of date, but a little TLC should take care of that. I'm willing to look after it if access can be sorted out. Regards Kyle Kyle Gordon wrote: Is that coming from the person who comes on IRC as 'Windy'?... Kyle Tony Dyer wrote: If we wish to continue advocacy and to be taken seriously can we have some human names rather than the juvenile handles. I'll be there every month if that's what it takes to get some organization back into SLUG. Tony Dyer Original Message From: Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Dec-22-2003 9:13 AM Subject: [Scottish] ScotLUG 2004 Following a discussion on Thursday night in the Counting House, we now have some offers of talks available, and I would like to propose the following calendar: January - Bring your favourite Linux book/gadget; time to show off all those cool things you got for Christmas, and inspire some geek envy. February - Neuro on Smoothwall March - gordonjcp on encryption (aimed at all levels) April - Easter Quiz (bigkevmcd? up for this again) May - Gaming on Linux (volunteers to demo some games?) June - Me (mrBen) on something - maybe Python or MagicPoint, or something like that? In addition, Tony (Dyer) has offered on the website to do a short beginners corner slot each month, and I suggest we take him up on this for any months he is present. Plus the usual Q+A session will be run. Also, Willie will try and get in contact with Bob Kerr (the guy responsible for getting OSS into libraries) and see if he is able to come and give a talk on one of the months (in which case the schedule above will change) As a point of note, the following issues were also raised: 1. Each week does not necessarily need to be a 'talk', nor does it necessarily need to be the realm of a single individual. We want everyone to feel that they are able to contribute to what happens. If you are comfortable doing a 'talk' or presentation, then that's fine, but if you would rather do things a little bit differently, then that's also fine. 2. The idea of a committee is one that brings fear into the heart of many, most of whom have served on committee's until they're blue in the face. Most open source projects successfully run without a committee, but rather by peer review and discussion. The feeling on Thursday was that this was the way forward, and that we should be able to organise ourselves without a rigid organisational structure. None of this is set in stone, but at least we now have something to go on. Please can those on IRC ensure that any additional discussion is also referenced to the list for completeness sake. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] January Meeting -- we have a speaker
I can pick him up if required. I'm on an early shift that day, so I can pop along at 7 and wait for him at the station. Kyle Willie wrote: Very pleased to announce that Bob Kerr of recent Open Office CDs in libraries fame has agreed to do a 10-15 min spot at the January meeting. I might need a volunteer to meet Bob off the train at Queen St around 7ish on the 29th. Any takers? -- Best Regards Willie Fleming ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Mailing list to web interface
Well, it's good to see such an enthusiastic response from those it concerns. Other than those who already said 'yeah, that would be good. Why not ask the list?' on IRC, there has been SFA response from anyone else. Why bother now? I was inclined to help, but since it would appear that noone can even be arsed to even reply to an email with one word, I'm retracting the suggestion. Regards Kyle Kyle Gordon wrote: Evening all Ok, following more debates on IRC, it would appear that an effective method for communicating mailing list data to the scotlug.org.uk website is required. Since the mailing list is already replicated through gmane, it has been suggested that a NNTP to Web client is implemented on the scotlug site, possibly allowing two-way communciation to the list from the site. So, to summarise... Mailing list -- Usenet (Gmane) -- Site (scotlug.org.uk) That should kill off the mailing list versus web forums argument, with the added benefit of Usenet access for those who want it. All those in favour, say aye... 'Aye' Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Help me wipe out Microsoft
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Colin It might your DMA settings, which you can tweak with the hdparm tool. /sbin/hdparm -d1 /dev/xxxX will enable DMA for a device, and just hdparm /dev/ on it's own will show the current state of the device. My Celeron 1.2Ghz, 128Mb laptop played back DVDs fine with mplayer, so I doubt it's a memory/horsepower issue. Regards Kyle On Monday 19 January 2004 23:23, Colin McKinnon wrote: ...off my laptop, that is. After some struggle I now have Xine playing DVDs with sound on my laptop (1Ghz / 128Mb) only problem is the playback stutters every 30 seconds or so (video frames jerky, loss of lip sync). Tweaking the settings didn't help much. Obviously there's not a lot of free memory on the box, but I don't want to go and buy more just to see if it might give better DVD playback. Meanwhile playback with WinDVD4 on Microsoft Windows XP is flawless. Anyobdy out there playing DVDs? How much memory? TIA Colin ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFADHpel4cZwpbv7iIRAuV6AJ0QdVl+g9aoT4E3nYvxZAIS9hmz+ACeLcA3 uXszmBHj8h3DOZAMXz7Z5Tk= =oJ3Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Introduction
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey there, Good to hear another new person joining in the fun. I'm Kyle, otherwise known as bagpuss_thecat on IRC, or baggy in real life (thanks Kev). Bit of a Debian fan, but if I ever get my hands on another machine at some point I'll be trying out a variety of distros. Been at the Linux lark for about 3 years now :-p cya about Kyle On Friday 30 January 2004 07:46, Scott Thomson wrote: Hi everybody, Just thought I'd introduce myself as I have just joined the list. I'm 22 and currently live in EK. I've been playing around with *nix since I was 15 and my current distribution of choice is Gentoo. I just joined this list because I was suprised to stumble across a LUG in Glasgow. I may make my way to a meeting one day but would like to hear from some people first. The only people I know IRL that use any *nix are work colleauges. Anyway, thanks for listening. Scott aka vax. _ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAGqLWl4cZwpbv7iIRAmcNAJ0SeB5prL50ioeKe9LPe6kz6zy+IgCfW8GL tFZdnJ53vdsefsO9dycIyFA= =wvoR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Inaccurate BBC Linux Article
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just thought you may all be interested in http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3457823.stm and the associated crap that the journo writes. The feedback page at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/help/3281777.stm may also come in useful. Kyle -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIizCl4cZwpbv7iIRAly3AJ4st/9E7Ob/QJLwnBqbI43JlOvOSQCfS8z8 Ci4oDsEktA1KyD5JGccmTxU= =JTiG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Konqueror 3.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Loads, renders, and then blanks out here, on Konq 3.2 Turning off Javascript allows the page to render properly, and stays that way. Kyle On Wednesday 18 February 2004 07:10, ray wrote: Could anyone using Konqueror 3.2 please try http://www.nic.uk/index.html For me (SuSE 9.0) this page loads then blanks out. However if I change the browser id string even to a non graphical client e.g. Lynx/2.8.3dev.6 libwww-FM/2.14 or Wget/1.5.3, it seems to work fine! The only non-runners I have found are anything containing the default Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.2) (KHTML, like Gecko) or no id. Others on the nom-tech (Nominet) list have not replicated this -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAM8Rml4cZwpbv7iIRAgbmAJwKe+e4hpZU+SFP0xF7brBt69yucQCfYbp1 tFCfwPgHnG6b43n+R+Z6tIE= =UWwc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Open Office CD Distribution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 29 February 2004 15:38, rob wrote: Hi, I've done an initial draft of a letter to accompany the Open Office CD's. As I don't have all the facts I'd really appreciate it if people could use this thread to hammer out a final usable letter, I'll then type it up and we can move forward with the distribution of the CD's. If anyone can give me names of people I could contact to get more information on what exactly the CD's are supposed to be for that would be great. here's what I have so far: http://www.anderberg.co.uk/openOfficeDraft.txt thanks, Rob Looks good. I think one of the things Bob Kerr wanted to get across the most was the fact that the word 'copyleft' should be mentioned in the first 30 seconds or so, and I assume the same principle should be applied in any letters that are sent out. Just my 2p :-p Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQ6NAl4cZwpbv7iIRAo7jAKCDS3QPgYb/1BxztxmQdQ7lrORLmwCdGxnt DazaUOca98JaH7Q0kSvehc8= =6zX/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] email server testing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 March 2004 13:21, Mark Robinson wrote: Hello slug, Can anyone recommend simple benchmarking software for mail servers? I've just set up amavisd-new with the Sophie interface to Sophos and I want to be able to throw large volumes of messages, some viral some clean, to see how much better it is. No that's not a challenge guys :-) Mark. Not sure about performance testing, but you may be interested in the EICAR test file, for the virus checker - http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm Saves you the hassle of screwing about with live viruses :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASOZJl4cZwpbv7iIRAg8LAJ9iUf7tWsJuVZc9uYptn22eG+pd0ACfR2JW /BS0iGkfX0e+TcGwnjgP/H0= =jJQI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free LPI Exams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm up for this. Ta Kyle On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:38, Peter George wrote: Hello Glasgow, LPI are over in the UK for the Linuxuser conference next month, and have offered to come up to Edinburgh and setup an LPI exam center at Net Resources, so that we can offer free LPI101 examinations. I'd like to assess interest and feedback to LPI on potential candidate numbers. Please let me know if you would like to try for Linux Professional Institute certification. I'm also polling ScotLug and EdLug. Regards, P -- Peter George Training Manager Net Resources Ltd 26 Palmerston Place, Edinburgh, EH12 5AL T: 0131 477 7127 F: 0131 477 7126 http://www.netresources.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWk3bl4cZwpbv7iIRAj0uAJ4gE0r1rS9QU5Betq3sPAVtX2ARMACfYioi dYyPiwCAQC478Z/8M6MVbBY= =BhGN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Ubuntu resolvconf
On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 08:26 +, Craig Perry wrote: Hi guys, After some recent list traffic about the ubuntu distro I decided to give it a go. What a distro! The new kernel and gnome 2.8 have turned my machine into a flyer, fantastic! (Only problem is the day before I tried it, I ordered a machine from dell because I was feeling it was getting a bit slow :o) ah well! That was a cracking deal anyway). When I installed it, I configured the network interfaces both to use dhcp, (wireless and wired), but could I get it to update /etc/resolv.conf? Could I There was no resolv.conf file and a quick touch /etc/resolv.conf still didn't fix it. I could see dhcp was getting the nameservers (it was showing in it's debug log), the only thing there was close to resolv.conf was a directory /etc/resolvconf/ but in there seemed to be missing some stuff so I did an apt-get install resolvconf and it now works, as if by magic. Was this the right thing to do? Was there an easier way to sort it? Also is there a neat way to edit the startup scripts, more specifically controlling which ones startup when and in which runlevel or do I need to mess about with the symlinks by hand? Cheers, Craig ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Ayeup, I've been playing a little bit with Ubuntu and came across the same issue. I've not been able to find a proper solution, and the only 'Ubuntu way' to resolve this was to enter the DNS settings into the Network Settings applet of Gnome (which just appeared to edit /etc/resolv.conf). Maybe if I look harder on the net the solution will appear, but it works as it is. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Firefox 1.0 Release Party
As most of you probably know, Firefox 1.0 is being released on the 9th of November. As with the release of Mozilla 1.0 on June 12th 2002, people partied all around the world - and they're planning on doing the same again for Firefox 1.0. The URL to visit and sign up to keep informed of the event is http://www.openforce.at/mozparty2/?party=220, and the party will be sometime between Friday 19th November and Sunday 21st November. The suggested venue is the Hogshead on Woodlands Road, so I hope to see you all there :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Linux distro for mum?
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 20:12 +, Harry Doherty wrote: Hi My mum recently expressed an interest in getting a computer for dvds/email/web/etc at home. She was enthusiastic about GNU/Linux when I told her about it. She has little computer experience (but doesn't believe in learned helplessness). I've been using debian ~1yr (but still haven't configured X properly). I'm looking for the least hassle distro as mum will be 100 miles away. I'm thinking perhaps Fedora Core or Umbuntu if it's mature enough. Also any thoughts on hardware (laptop vs pc vs self-assemble) would be welcome. cheers H. I can thoroughly recommend Ubuntu. As people have said, based on Debian so you get a completely tested application repository all easily available through Synaptic. On both the machines I've tested it on, it's worked out the box without any tweaking whatsoever. The only change I've made is to install apt-watch on it. This way I don't have to worry about checking for updates manually. A wee light-bulb appears whenever there are updates to be had. The downside of apt-watch is that to run Synaptic from its menu, it asks for the root password, which kinda goes against the Ubuntu method of using sudo for everything. Gnome 2.8 is slick, and holds together well. Evolution, Firefox and OpenOffice come as standard, along with a plethora of games to play and ggv, XSane and Gimp for the arty types :-) Well worth the download, and hopefully around here to stay. As for hardware, if you feel that you have the knowledge then go for self assemble. If not, then the many low-cost retail shops around the place will surely have a good deal going for a bare-bones system that you can expand on when required. A laptop is a possible choice, but more expensive - even for an old one. Unless your Mother specifically wants the ability to carry her computer around the house, or is short for space, then a desktop would be the best choice. A desktop can also be upgraded easily when your mother decides that she wants to play the latest version of Unreal Tournement that she's just downloaded from Bittorrent... :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] 2 way pagers
On Monday 15 November 2004 12:16, Daragh Mc Grath wrote: Hi Guys, A pal of mine in Glasgow is looking at getting a two way pager, more for personal use than IT usage, but that's by the by! Who are the providers over there and what sort of costs are involved? Any stores / websites you could point me toward? Does it have to be using the pager/sms system? There's a few companies out there offering Blackberry devices, and also the SonyEricsson P900/P910 apparently has an improved IMAP client these days, which you can use over gprs. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Clear out - update
Titling an email 'SPAM SPAM SPAM' isn't conducive towards getting it through the spam filters on this mailing list. Every one of these posts has had to be approved by a mailing list moderator, making it rather unfair to those attempting to get 'first dibs' on something. There is no guarantee that it will be processed in FIFO order by the admin, or even that it will get through at all (since mailman has an option to silently drop anything it thinks is spam). Not only will it get filtered by mailman, but there is the added bonus possibility of it getting filtered at the users end, if they are filtering for the word 'SPAM'. In future, if anyone is thinking about flogging items on the list, please don't tag it with the world most common spam tag, and just do what most other mailing lists do and prefix it with [FS] or something similar. Ta muchly all, Kyle On Wednesday 17 November 2004 16:44, Craig Perry wrote: Hi all, The TV/DVD Player just went. The flat panel's on hold The ps1 + games are dibbed Cheers, Craig Craig Perry wrote: Hi all, *This is blatant spam* Having a wee clear out of some stuff, if anyone wants any of the below, mail me off list, all free to uplift (well up to the end of free stuff bit!), otherwise going to the charity shop. I've got a boxed set here of suse linux 9.1 I've got a *huge* back catalogue of PC PRO, Linux Format, Linux Magazine, and Linux User and Developer, anybody want them? Again free to uplift. Also playstation one, with about 50 games or so. --- end of free stuff Brand new, never used football fridge, i suppose its handy for storing beers in. Works off 240 mains or 12/24v car/truck battery. - £15 - an easy chrimbo pressy for someone. Unfortunately my family gave me it so i cant offload it back to them. I'm also flogging a 17inch dell flat panel monitor (decided dual screen is not for me), for about £150ish, 1 month or so old. Comes with driver cd etc (colour definition files). vga adapter, can supply vga-dvi adapter with it though. Could also throw in (the worlds crappest) graphics card with the above, its an ati radeon 9200se 128mb, works under linux but my god is it a struggle to get the xinerama extensions playing with this thing. Its PCI based as well, like i said, definately a contender for title of worlds crappest semi-modern graphics card - 1 vga, 1 dvi, 1 s-video out port, with s-video cable for hooking up to the tv. I'm also flogging a sony ericsson p900, excellent condition, still boxed etc with disks/cradle/carry case/ spare stylus etc. i may put this on ebay as these things are still fetching crazy money, i'm just looking for about £200 for it. These are quite possibly one of the greatest devices ever invented, but i work for tmobile so just got the p910i upgrade. It's currently on tmobile funnily enough, but getting the unlocking code is no problem. Works with linux - sync with evolution or a few other PIM/Email clients, (can even sync over the air). If you want i can transfer ownership of a contract for the above, its £29 a month, 290 anytime cross network minutes, 150 sms, 100 meg GPRS allowance. - on a side note, its funny to go into these phone shops that say find a better deal and we'll beat it by £5 a month, they squirm at that contract then just say no. Please note i dont think there's even a full 6 months left of this thing, when it runs out throw it away because there is no way they will continue this contract at that price. I'll get the CTN changed as well so you get a fresh phone number and i can put mine in reserve. I've also got a 2.5G GPRS/GSM pcmcia data card as well. Works under windoze/linux/macintosh. I believe it to be locked to t-mobile, it may not be locked though. This may be a better option for chewing through the 100meg grps allowance each month above. say £60, nothing stopping you putting a prepay sim in it though. There's an unbranded tv, think its about 24 inch or so, living room size anyway, and an unbranded region unlocked dvd player both with remotes - £40 for the lot. Sorry i thought there was gonna be more linuxy stuff in there, but i cant really bare to part with it all, so just the stuff i dont use is going. Cheers ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Clear out - update
On Thursday 18 November 2004 12:35, Craig Perry wrote: Hey all, I figured it better label it spam for precisely that reason, so that spam filters will catch it. I appreciate not everyone wants this kind of thing in their inbox, therefore those with agressive spam filters who would not want to see this kind of thing, wont see it. Willie Flemming was saying about it getting caught in the spam filters last night when he came over, i think this is something to do with my email address right enough, not so much the title, as all my posts have to be manually posted by the moderators AFAIK - don't know what i've done wrong in setting up the subscription to the list?! In future though i do concur that [FS] would be a better tag than SPAM SPAM SPAM. My apologies to the list moderators. Not a problem. One or two posts like that is OK, but everyone was posting with the same subject, and everyone was getting caught up in the filters. Something on mailman.lug.org.uk is broken as well. You are getting trapped as spam, even though the headers show that you get a score of -4.8, and to be tagged as spam it needs to be +7... And I, for one, can't post new emails to the list, only replies. Anything new just silently vanishes into the ether. No apologies needed imho, just thought I would dole out some hints since the time arose (although others may disagree :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] November Meeting
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 15:44, Ben Thorp wrote: Just a wee reminder - the November meeting will be on Thursday 25th November, at 7.30pm and Livingston Tower (directions on the webpage at http://www.scotlug.org.uk) As usual there will be plenty of opportunity to ask other Linux and tech related questions. And I have 20 Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) CDs to distribute at the meeting as well. If you're not fast, you're last :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] kit promised for meeting
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 22:41, Willie wrote: just a quickie -- if I promised to bring any kit/books for you tomorrow night can you remind me ASAP You promised by the entire O'Reilly bookshelf in dead tree form... Shall I bring a box trailer? I might be going straight from work so you better let me know soon Willie Fleming Product Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuretech.co.uk Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Job in Glasgow
Thought you folks might like this one :-) Someone looking for an Ethical Hacker in Glasgow - http://www.jobserve.com/W190FAF77F302DC88.job ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] February meeting
Urrm, yeah, it's aaah, tonight, in about 2 hours... Just making sure everyone knows well in advance :-) Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] LUGRadio Live
William Anderson wrote: Ben Thorp wrote: For those of you who have been listeners of LUGRadio (http://www.lugradio.org) over the last year, they have announced 'LUGRadio Live', their 'tradeshow' or expo, or whatever. It will be on 25th June 2005, in Wolverhampton - the main event will be running from 12pm - 6pm, with a more 'social' evening also planned. This should mean that it would be a matter of going down on Saturday morning, and coming back up on Sunday morning I suspect. I'm planning to drive down early on Saturday morning and mrben has blagged a seat already. I have two more seats available for those wishing to travel light (i.e. travel bag + laptop bag) and willing to share the expense (say £20 quid a seat return?) To follow that up, I'm happy to rent a car and then share the costs. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] LUGRadio Live
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 17:19, Kyle Gordon wrote: William Anderson wrote: Ben Thorp wrote: For those of you who have been listeners of LUGRadio (http://www.lugradio.org) over the last year, they have announced 'LUGRadio Live', their 'tradeshow' or expo, or whatever. It will be on 25th June 2005, in Wolverhampton - the main event will be running from 12pm - 6pm, with a more 'social' evening also planned. This should mean that it would be a matter of going down on Saturday morning, and coming back up on Sunday morning I suspect. I'm planning to drive down early on Saturday morning and mrben has blagged a seat already. I have two more seats available for those wishing to travel light (i.e. travel bag + laptop bag) and willing to share the expense (say £20 quid a seat return?) To follow that up, I'm happy to rent a car and then share the costs. Kyle Errrm, scratch that suggestion. There was a slight lack of interest, and I also forgot that I'll still be in Denmark on that date :-p Sorry folks (in the unlikely event that anyone was disappointed) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Cat 5e
Coming along to this weeks meet by any chance? I'm always on the lookout for people who do 3D work on Linux :-) Kyle On Tuesday 24 May 2005 21:50, Skoby wrote: I'd also like one, i've just started building up a render farm for my 3D work, a box of Cat 5e would save me some money :) On 5/24/05, Julian Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I have 4 (actually 5 but keeping one for myself) mainly full boxes of 305m (1000ft for the oldies) cat5e cable to give away to good homes. Would prefer to give one box each to 4 individuals but if there aren't enough takers someone can have more. Stick your hands up if you want one and can collect from the west end of Glasgow. Cheers Julian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG publickey available on request http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Sun Kit
I have a Sparcstation 2, Sun GDM 1662B monitor, keyboard and mouse (complete with metal grid style mousemat) going free to a good home. As far as I know it all works[1], except the machine needs its NVRAM battery replaced. Taker collects, or I can deliver if near to Glasgow city center. Kyle [1] - Last booted about a year ago. Probably has Debian Testing on the drive. -- Kyle Gordon http://lodge.glasgownet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Sun Kit
Sold! To the student on the left! Reply offlist with your location and/or suggestions for transport. Cheers, Kyle On Tuesday 31 May 2005 09:43, Skoby wrote: Hey, If no-one has taken you up on the offer for the sparcstation i would very much like to. I'm currently studing computer science and it would give me something to experiment with. :) Thank You, Skoby On 5/30/05, Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sparcstation 2, Sun GDM 1662B monitor, keyboard and mouse (complete with metal grid style mousemat) going free to a good home. As far as I know it all works[1], except the machine needs its NVRAM battery replaced. Taker collects, or I can deliver if near to Glasgow city center. Kyle [1] - Last booted about a year ago. Probably has Debian Testing on the drive. -- Kyle Gordon http://lodge.glasgownet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech 2005, Saturday July 23rd]
Anyone up for this? I certainly am :-) Mass train journey down to it? Kyle On Saturday 04 June 2005 09:45, Gary wrote: Something that could be interesting. -Gary Original Message Subject: backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech 2005, Saturday July 23rd Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:54:33 +0100 (BST) From: Sam Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The UK Unix User Group, NTK.net, and the organisers of NotCon '04 present: backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech 2005 Saturday July 23rd - The Reynolds Building, Hammersmith, London W6 8RP http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2005/ Sponsored by backstage.bbc.co.uk, Open Tech 2005 is an informal one-day conference about technologies that anyone can have a go at, from Open Source-style ways of working to repurposing everyday electronics hardware. So far, the line-up features: * Ted Nelson, inventor of hypertext, on where the web went wrong * The official launch of the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer network, opening up BBC content for you to play with * Plus: able to record an entire week of all Freeview TV and radio channels, probably the UK's largest (fridge-sized) PVR More speakers will be confirmed over the next few weeks - but, as the title implies, we're very much Open to suggestions. If you're reverse-engineering proprietary protocols, making useful information available in a way people couldn't get at before, pioneering unexpected methods of knowledge sharing - or (equally likely) doing something so cool we haven't even thought of it yet, then please get in touch via the submissions form at: http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2005/offer/ The deadline for submissions is midnight UK time Saturday June 25th, and we'll aim to notify everyone who's submitted a proposal by July 1st. We'll be trying to fit in as many talks (and lightning presentations) as possible, so the shorter you can make yours, the better. Alternatively, if you have an idea for a panel discussion, or a workshop, or anything else that's vaguely in keeping with the theme of the event, then we also can't wait to hear from you. And there'll most likely be some sort of internet access at the event, but offline demonstrations are strongly encouraged, as bandwidth may not be guaranteed. * Further information * You don't have to suggest a session to take part; you can stay informed about the event by subscribing to our low-traffic announcement-only mailing list - send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (your address will only be used to contact you about the event and will not be passed onto third parties). - or you can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you've any other questions. backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech 2005 Saturday July 23rd - The Reynolds Building, Hammersmith, London W6 8RP http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2005/ Final programme may be subject to alteration. Thanks for reading! -- FreeBSD UK Users' Group - Mailing List -- http://listserver.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] (no subject)
When I sent this, it didn't have all the headers preceeding my 'excuse the headers' comment, and it certainly had a subject line. Looks like Mailman has shoved its head firmly up it's arse again. Sorry folks. Kyle Excuse the headers... but if anyone is interested? - Forwarded message from Simon Yuill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:41:46 +0100 From: Simon Yuill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Simon Yuill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ambit] SOMETHING FOR NOTHING - a talk on open source and redundant technology To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SOMETHING FOR NOTHING - a talk on open source and redundant technology MONDAY JULY 11th 7pm - 9pm Free entry RADIUS SHOP, 423 SHIELDS RD, POLLOKSHIELDS As part of the 'Grow Your Your Own Media Lab' project funded by the Arts Council England, Sheffield based Low tech are giving a talk about their experiences with Access Space (the UKs first free media lab to utilise redundant technology and open source software) and their various creative ventures in trash technology. for more info please call Hannah 0141 423 0070 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] useful links: www.lowtech.org -- Services making Glasgow Greener: http://www.sprucecarpet.org.uk/ http://www.thereclaimer.co.uk/default.htm http://www.thecht.co.uk/ http://www.communitycancycle.org.uk/index2.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-freecycle/ http://www.communicafe.co.uk/index.htm http://www.starterpacks.co.uk/ http://www.lamhrecycle.co.uk/ Second opportunities take good quality furniture to redistribute Tel 0141 425 1177 Related links making the world Greener http://www.xtremewaste.org.nz/ http://www.greenmap.org/ To aid growth please feed back any additional info to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radiusglasgow.org http://www.chateau.eclipse.co.uk/radiusweb/radiusdiary.htm Operating from: 423 Shields Rd, Pollokshields, Glasgow, G41 1NY Tel: 0141 4180070 mob: 07780604031 ___ a m b i t : networking media arts in scotland post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive: www.a-r-c.org.uk/ambit - End forwarded message - ___ Backnet mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.backnet.org.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/backnet --- -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] July's Meeting
On Friday 22 July 2005 14:33, Ben Thorp wrote: July's Meeting will be next Thursday (28th) July - all the usual details. See www.scotlug.org.uk for more details and maps and the like. This month Kyle (aka bagpuss - http://lodge.glasgownet.com) will be talking about Linux PVR (Personal Video Recorder) solutions, like MythTV and Freevo. Ben Thorp Due to me having a horrendously busy week, and roughly one week to prepare for this, it's been decided that I will do my talk next month. So instead of it being Here's how far I got trying to install Freevo..., it'll be something a bit more substantial. In the meantime, Kevin McDermott has worked his special brand of majick, and kindly arranged a pub style quiz instead. Same time, same place :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
Unless you're doing cross-domain authentification magick, you don't need to use the machine name on your login, in either the [EMAIL PROTECTED], or domain\user format. As long as you have an account that Samba recognises, then you should be able to log in with just your username. Now, having an account that Samba recognises is another matter. Suse may have some spiffy scripts to synchronise the SMB database with the system database, or it may just leave you high and dry. You can add a user to the Samba database by running smbpasswd - `smbpasswd -a steve` - and then entering in an appropriate password. If the user already exists, then it will just change the password for that user. You also have to have an existing Linux user in the system database with the same username before you make a Samba user - which is why I'm surprised that Suse doesn't synchronise it all automagically for you. If that fails to work, or you've already tried that, send us the most recent logs (grep log file /etc/samba/smb.conf to find out where they're stored) and we can have a look at that. It could be that Windows has some security/encryption options enabled that is confusing Samba Kyle On Monday 05 September 2005 11:45, William Hamilton wrote: Steve Logan wrote: After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve Ah, you dont need to use the machine name when you login. Also, as far as I know you need to add a samba user for the Windows box to authenticate against. Unfortunatly I cannot be more helpful than this - I haven't used samba in quite a while but i'm sure someone else will be able to help nps. Basically yes, your doing something daft but it's a common thing and one that actually stumped me for a while when I first started using samba :) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie question
s/are fast/have spent too much time unbreaking samba/ Kyle On Monday 05 Sep 2005 14:02, Steve Logan wrote: You chaps are fast! Thanks Kyle, I tried the smbpasswd -a steve and it all works fine now. I've got a user 'steve' with the same password on both Win and SuSe and, having done the smbpasswd thingy, I can get straight in from XP to Suse without doing anything. Hurray. Thanks again... Steve Kyle Gordon wrote: Unless you're doing cross-domain authentification magick, you don't need to use the machine name on your login, in either the [EMAIL PROTECTED], or domain\user format. As long as you have an account that Samba recognises, then you should be able to log in with just your username. Now, having an account that Samba recognises is another matter. Suse may have some spiffy scripts to synchronise the SMB database with the system database, or it may just leave you high and dry. You can add a user to the Samba database by running smbpasswd - `smbpasswd -a steve` - and then entering in an appropriate password. If the user already exists, then it will just change the password for that user. You also have to have an existing Linux user in the system database with the same username before you make a Samba user - which is why I'm surprised that Suse doesn't synchronise it all automagically for you. If that fails to work, or you've already tried that, send us the most recent logs (grep log file /etc/samba/smb.conf to find out where they're stored) and we can have a look at that. It could be that Windows has some security/encryption options enabled that is confusing Samba Kyle On Monday 05 September 2005 11:45, William Hamilton wrote: Steve Logan wrote: After lurking for some years now it's time to come out of the closet... I've just set up my first serious Linux machine, a PIII 500 running SuSe Professional 9.1. Installation went OK and it's now up and running ready for me to play around with Apache/Tomcat (which is why I want it). Here's my question - I use WinXP for most of my development work and want an easy way of copying files to and from the SuSe box. I've correctly set up Samba client and server on the SuSe box, or at least I think I have. From the Suse box I can see my Win2003 network and copy files across. So that direction works fine. From my XP box I enter the IP address of the Suse box in 'My Computer' and I get back a list of things - 'groups', 'profiles', 'users' and 'Printers and Faxes'. When I click on, say, users I'm asked to login. Here's where my problem starts. I enter '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the 'User name' and enter my password (I have already set up an account on the SuSe box called steve and I can login fine at the Suse machine) but I'm not logged in. I've tried all sorts of permutations and combinations for the user name but I'm stumped. I presume I'm doing something daft. The suse box is called 'cactuslinux' and there is an account called 'steve'. Help!? Thanks Steve Ah, you dont need to use the machine name when you login. Also, as far as I know you need to add a samba user for the Windows box to authenticate against. Unfortunatly I cannot be more helpful than this - I haven't used samba in quite a while but i'm sure someone else will be able to help nps. Basically yes, your doing something daft but it's a common thing and one that actually stumped me for a while when I first started using samba :) ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Hopeless newbie charges on
On Monday 05 Sep 2005 16:50, Steve Logan wrote: Flushed with my success earlier today (thank-you folks) I think I'll try a bit harder to get into this Linux malarkey. So - do you have any recommendations for a good not-quite-eedjit book for introducing a moderately expert Windows user to SuSE? My background is engineering and programming rather than networks. However I have built a number of PCs and networks and am (touch wood) not too bad at the hard techy stuff. It seems to me that there's a different mindset that Windows folks needs to be learn to get around a Linux box? Any book recommendations then? Ta Steve (PS I like books cos I can read them on a train). I can highly recommend Samba-3 By Example, by John H Terpstra ISBN 0131472216 I got mine for $45 at Powells Technical Bookstore last year, but it may be cheaper elsewhere. John H Terpstra is one of the co-founders of Samba, so he knows what he's on about :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] GPG Signing
Is it just me, or are all mails to the list that are GPG signed getting silently dropped? Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Map of Scotlug
Just thought folks might enjoy this little gadget... http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/scotlug Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Map of Scotlug
On Friday 21 October 2005 18:13, Gary wrote: Kyle Gordon wrote: Just thought folks might enjoy this little gadget... http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/scotlug Kyle Nice, but how do you unregister multiple registrations? I have to do that at the moment... Which one do you want removed? Ta, Kyle -- Kyle Gordon http://lodge.glasgownet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Website changes
A vote has been raised on the scotlug website, and imho it hould get at least 30 seconds attention from people. http://www.scotlug.org.uk/node/view/121 is the address that matters. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Website changes
On Tuesday 01 November 2005 15:41, Alistair J Ross wrote: I like the fact that you also have a very active irc community. I would like to see CGI::Irc working again (or something similar), because it's my only way onto IRC between the hours of Mon-Fri 9am-7pm The topic was raised, and pickle pointed me at http://www.elite.uk.com/cgiirc/ Enjoy :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Open Source Business
On Friday 04 Nov 2005 09:08, Peter George wrote: I was primarily curious to hear about others who are actively involved in creating open source software, running Sourceforge projects etc. I expect that there are absolutely loads of companies using it, but who's creating it in Scotland? I'm not a programmer in any way, but I founded the EpsonEPL project, which has brought Linux support for a variety of Epson EPL printers that were previously Windows only. 99.999% of credit should go to the fantastic programmers in various parts of the world that put in the time to reverse engineer the USB protocol though. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Hardware database
If anyone is interested in sharing their hardware experiences with us, then have a look at http://hash.scotlug.org.uk/wiki/Scotlug_Linux_hardware_database I'm still working on my bits :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Network sound systems
I'm asking you lot cos... well, google didn't turn up anything useful :-) Is anyone aware of a network audio system that is mostly seamless? I could bring my laptop into the same room as my media box, and artsd/esd/alsa/etc would automatically detect the presence of the sound system hooked up to it, and offer me a chance to use it instead of the onboard sound. Using upnp AV, rendezvous, bluetooth, anything? Maybe instead it could have something in the system notification area that knows what sound systems are on the same network, and offer the ability to pick services? I know Apples Airtunes device does similar, but up until recently it was Apple only. Jon Lech Johansen has cracked the Airtunes key, but it's still a kludge to get audio over to it. Anyone got any ideas, suggestions, hints, etc? Cheers, Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] [Fwd: [Backnet] Event this Wednesday]
Thought this may interest some of you. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] [Fwd: [Backnet] Event this Wednesday]
Kyle Gordon wrote: Thought this may interest some of you. Kyle /me checks his sent folder - _CHECK_ - there _is_ an attachment there fucks sake not only can this ass-backwards crock of shit run by lug.org.uk not handle gpg sigs, it can't even handle a fucking attachment. Piss poor headbanging shitness _again_ from the lug.org.uk guys. Here it is. Hello all - There is an event taking place this Wednesday, December 7 at 6:30 PM, upstairs at the Waverley pub, that I thought would be of some interest to backnetters. Berlin-based artist Michelle Teran will be discussing her work that focuses on the use of wireless surveillance cameras within public and private places that transmit on the 2.4 Ghz frequency band. She intercepts the signals on this band with a consumer model video scanner, and conducts walks through cities where she reveals the images being captured by cameras inside buildings. This is the launch of a series of events called Poker Club. Full details on the talk are below. Hope to see you there! Cheers, MK - The Launch of the Poker Club! In a nod to the Scottish Enlightenment, when Adam Smith and David Hume gathered to discuss big ideas over a glass of claret at the original Poker Club, New Media Scotland is launching its own series of events under this venerable name (which refers to a fireplace poker for stirring things up, not card games, we're afraid). These events will be held in the same environment as the original Poker Club - in the pubs of Edinburgh , where there is an endless supply of bar napkins to jot down inspirational notes and ideas. Our first Poker Club will be held upstairs at the Waverley (3-5 St. Mary's St., in the Old Town ) on Wednesday 7th December, at 6:30 PM, free admission. Berlin-based artist Michelle Teran will be in conversation with Clive Gillman, Director of Dundee Contemporary Arts. The topic at hand will be the ever-present eye of the surveillance camera, and in this context, Michelle will discuss her performance work with live images snatched from surveillance cameras and presented to passersby. The conversation will be lively, and you are encouraged to cut in with your questions and comments. At the Poker Club, everything is up for debate and discussion! For more on Michelle Teran: http://www.ubermatic.org/life Michelle's talk is presented in partnership with Stills: http://www.stills.org -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Christmas meet
When's the meeting going to be this month folks? I favour 22nd, but that's probably a good excuse for everyone to choose the 29th then. Some other folks in the CH have admitted to favouring the 22nd as well though. So... as I gaze into my crystal ball, to predict that nobody will give a toss - as long as there's beer involved - shall we go for the 22nd? Ta, Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] USB memory sticks and SuSE 9.3
On Friday 13 January 2006 07:38, Robert Barbour wrote: I did this and sent a reply to scottish, but it didn't get into the system. Could this be because it had a file attached? Oops, it appears that the volume of dodgily titled emailed being summarised in my daily You have X amount of posts waiting to be moderated mail from the list has triggered my spam filter for the past number of weeks. The latest one in my spam trap tells me I have 242 posts to check, some of which are probably legitimate. From the Subject and From lines alone, Spamassassin has given it a score of 30.4... Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: [edlug] KDE's Akademy in Scotland
See my previous post about the mailing list Fredag 13 jan 2006 17:29 skrev Willie Fleming: On Friday 23 December 2005 14:30, Catriona Anand wrote: Well this just arrived in my Inbox this afternoon - anybody else just receiving this now or is it old news? What's the dates and likely venues before I commit myself? Aye Anand On Thursday 22 December 2005 01:05, Jonathan Riddell wrote: We have put in a bid to host KDE's Akademy conference in Glasgow next year. It's important that such bids have good local support so if you would be interested in helping next summer please say aye to show the people who decide that there will be people to help out. Jonathan - Willie ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Re: [edlug] KDE's Akademy in Scotland
No idea, I searched the moderation queue for the original, to no avail. Just another mail missing in the night Kyle Fredag 13 jan 2006 21:20 skrev Colin McKinnon: On Friday 13 January 2006 17:29, Willie Fleming wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 14:30, Catriona Anand wrote: Well this just arrived in my Inbox this afternoon - anybody else just receiving this now or is it old news? erm I only just got it too - and I can't seem to find Jonathon's email. Has somebody put Royal Mail in charge of SMTP? snip year. It's important that such bids have good local support so if you would be interested in helping next summer please say aye to show the people who decide that there will be people to help out. A tentative aye C. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
On Thursday 26 January 2006 08:52, Ben Thorp wrote: snip My original intention was to make the fee nominal (£2-£3), and, should the need arise, I am willing fund any shortfall myself. There be dragons here. I wouldn't trust this lot with anything like that. You'll find yourself offering £100 expenses to a good speaker, only to find that 1 person turns up for it. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Time flies - January's meeting and other stories
On Thursday 26 January 2006 08:52, Ben Thorp wrote: snip My original intention was to make the fee nominal (£2-£3), and, should the need arise, I am willing fund any shortfall myself. There be dragons here. I wouldn't trust this lot with anything like that. You'll find yourself offering £100 expenses to a good speaker, only to find that 1 person turns up for it. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon Systems Manager Absolute Studios http://www.absolutestudios.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] newbie
As an extra thought, if you fancy a hand setting it up. I'm sure you could come along on Thursday with the respective kit and distro, and people will help you set it up. Kyle On Tuesday 28 March 2006 17:47, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: Richard Wright wrote: Hi I would like to install a distribution of linux onto my own machine and was wondering if anyone could help? I am a university student, my old machine (eMac, now broken) was used for word processing and web browsing. It had a basic BSD version of unix. I have recently become interested in programming in unix. My Dad has very kindly given me an old laptop of his, a Toshiba Libretto with windows 98 installed. This is the machine I want to install linux onto. It has no CD drive, only a floppy drive. We did have a backpack cd drive but it is lost. It has a pentium mmx (not sure of exact spec) and limited memory. The upshot of this laptop is its miniscule size. It is just about samll enough to fit in a pocket! If anyone can think of a suitable linux distribution for an older machine and would be willing to guide me through the installation that would be great. Preferrably it must have a web browser, a word processor (preferrably word compatible), python, java, C compilers, both vi and emacs, and nasm assembly language. I have never installed an operating system before and I'm not sure where to begin. The information I found on the internet suggests that my local linux users group is my best bet. I'm actually running NetBSD on my Libretto 70CT, and have installed it on another machine. By far the easiest way is to whip out the drive and mount it in another machine. This can be a laptop with a CDROM, or a desktop with a suitable adaptor for the 44-pin laptop drive. Unlike Windows, most free as in (beer|speech) Unix-a-likes are pretty uncritical about what they are run on. You can install a fairly basic distro (and you will be, with 32M of memory) and at worst all you'll have to do is change what kind of driver X uses, possibly other minor fettling like that. The next easiest way is to use a boot floppy and PCMCIA network card, but only if you've got two slots - your Libretto might, mine doesn't. You could set up SLIP or PPP with the docking station's serial port, but that is just too hideously painfully horrible to contemplate. Finally you *may* be able to get a base install onto it from (lots of) floppies, then use a PCMCIA card to go from there. A variant on that would be the method used to install Ultrix and early BSDs on old DEC kit, and SCO onto i386 hardware, where you partition the drive into swap and everything else, then format the (quite small) swap partition as a temporary root, load the installer onto it (from 1/4 tape cartridges, back in the day), boot it, and install the real OS on the rest of the disk. If that makes no sense to you, don't worry - it actually *doesn't* make sense any more. I can't speak about Linux on the Libretto other than It works, I've seen it done. NetBSD with the laptop-specific kernel works pretty well (nothing too strange, just built with options more suitable for lappies like APM and no stonking great RAID arrays). HTH Gordon. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] March's Meeting
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 15:16, Ben Thorp wrote: This Months meeting is Tomorrow! 7.30pm as usual in Livvy Tower, 9pm onwards in the Counting House. Details at http://www.scotlug.org.uk This month Subhi S Hashwa (aka InfraRed on IRC) will be talking about he use of open source in public access pcs, drawing from his experience with an internet cafe in Edinburgh (IIRC) As usual, there will probably be an informal pre-meeting beer+curry(/other food) in the Counting House - there's usually somebody there from at least 6pm, if not a bit earlier. If you don't know anyone, but want to come to this pre-meet, then either declare your interest on IRC (#scotlug on freenode - see the site for more details) or drop a mail to the list; sadly the big fluffy penguin that used to identify the group is not currently with us :( Ben Thorp (aka mrBen) I should be there with my mini-tux. It's about 6 high, so keep an eye out :-) Kyle (aka bagpuss_thecat) -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] usb2 hard drive not being recognised anymore
It should be the job of udev to load the correct module. This job used to be handled by hotplug. Of course, if usb-storage is already loaded, then you should jsut get some messages about /dev/sd* being created. Kyle On Monday 15 May 2006 16:47, Thomas McLean wrote: Kyle Gordon wrote: On Monday 15 May 2006 16:27, Philip Ward wrote: Have you tried fdisk -l after plugging in the drive? The system may choose to put it as sdb instead of sda. fdisk -l will tell you where the drive is if it can be seen at all. Yep, tried that. When the drive is plugged in, nothing gets loaded. The USB Mass Storage guff in the logs mentioned earlier was from when I loaded the module manually. All that normally gets spewed out by dmesg is this... [4296247.023000] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 3 [4296249.229000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [4296249.733000] usb 4-4: device not accepting address 4, error -71 [4296249.835000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 So, usb-storage isn't loaded, and /dev/sda* isn't present. the drive also doesn't appear in disk manglement mmc in Windows apparently. Kyle So I take it that when I plug the drive in usb-storage should turn on? Because, if it's not present then why would it recognise it? I'm not good with this sorta thing... Tam. ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] usb2 hard drive not being recognised anymore
What make of drive is it? I've had a Maxtor and a Lacie both fail at the interface level for some reason. Both drives work fine when connected via IDE. Kyle On Thursday 18 May 2006 21:05, Thomas McLean wrote: Hi Martin/all, Just an update, I installed ubuntu onto another machine and tried it that way and the exact same messages appeared (different kernels). So I says stuff it time to open the casing. I done it without breaking the warranty sticker, so thats a good thing. I mounted it into the new installation of ubuntu and then formatted it to ext3 and tried it on my other PC and that worked fine under ubuntu. It's mounted and working perfectly. I've not tried the other drive (format and mount procedure) as yet but will get round to that shortly. I'd imagine that the other drive will be working too and maybe just the casing is broke somehow. The casing is just lying beside the computer, I actually do prefer the drives being inside the PC for speed issues etc. Thanks for all the replies tho', it's very much appreciated. Cheers, Tam. On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 05:31:04PM +0100, Thomas McLean wrote: Hi all, First of all for informational purposes I am running Ubuntu Dapper. Myself and Kyle (aka bagpuss) tried for a few hours last night by doing various methods and it still didn't suceed. I have a 500gb external usb2 hdd which I have been using for the past couple of days. Anyway, I rebooted my machine and when I try to mount the hdd it just says: Are you one the same kernel? Did you apt-get any kernel/udev/hotplug packages since your earlier boot? '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/big mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist' Are you using udev? Well at that point I thought I should check to see if the modules are present and here is the output from that also: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod |grep usb usb_storage74176 0 scsi_mod 139496 4 sd_mod,usb_storage,sr_mod,sbp2 usbcore 129668 4 usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd Looks good to me. dmesg reports this whenever I put in the usb2 cable: [4294852.023000] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 2 [4295590.979000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 [4295953.814000] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... [4295953.814000] usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage [4295953.814000] USB Mass Storage support registered. [4296229.694000] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods This is not so good. Have you googled for this? [4296247.023000] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 3 [4296249.229000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [4296249.733000] usb 4-4: device not accepting address 4, error -71 [4296249.835000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 Seems like a kernel/driver thing to me. Does the hard disk show up in /proc/scsi/scsi? Also, have a look at the 'lsusb -v' and if need be 'lsusb -vv' output. -- Martin - -- 30 years from now GNU/Linux will be as redundant a term as MERT/UNIX is today. - Martin Habets - -- ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X-server issue
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 15:01, William Anderson wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi Kyle, I hope this is what you want. Thanks. Joseph, the scotlug list software automatically strips out attachments when they are posted to the list. Send your attachments to Kyle directly, or stick them on a website so others can grab them if you want. Might I add that Josephs mail was held in the moderation queue as it exceeded the size limit. I approved it, with attachment intact. Somewhere further on, mailman decided to magically remove the attachment without my intervention or knowledge. This is also happening to mails that are sent with a GPG/PGP signature, and I am at a loss as to why. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] X-server issue
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 15:01, William Anderson wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi Kyle, I hope this is what you want. Thanks. Joseph, the scotlug list software automatically strips out attachments when they are posted to the list. Send your attachments to Kyle directly, or stick them on a website so others can grab them if you want. The attachment has been posted at http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/dapper.tar.gz Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] 486 processors
I have two 486 chips to give away. No motherboard or anything, just the processors. One is a 486 DX2-66, and the other is my old pride and joy, a 486 DX4-100. They were both last tested in the mid 90s... Free to a good home, as long as they are collected within one week from either the Yoker area, or Charing Cross area. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Free stuff
Evening all, I have free stuff to give away... 1x PCI Modem - Conexant RS56-PCI 1x PCI Modem - Conexant RH56D-PCI 1x PCI Soundcard - Yamaha YMF724E-Y 1x PCI MPEG Decoder - ReaMagic EM8300 1x ISA Soundblaster - CT4170 1x ISA SCSI Adapter - AHA-1542CP 1x ISA Thing - Has antenna connector and Speaker connector. FCC ID - LCH 9020-234567 1x ASUS USB header 1x USB(2x), Mouse, IR header 1x Pentium P200 1x Pentium P100 Assorted serial cables, printer cables, headers, connectors, scsi things, etc All this, and more, will be present in my rucksack at tomorrows booktrip. Don't all come rushing at once... Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Calling Joste
I still have that Vauxhall Astra Haynes book you were to collect months ago. It'll be at the next Scotlug, and then it'll be in the bin. Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Drive performance...
On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 08:37 +, Andrew Back wrote: On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Kyle Gordon wrote: Caviar 80GB (Master) + DiamondMax 60 (slave) on the internal IDE controller + Deskstar 120GXP on a PCI Ultra100 TX2 card - giving 120GB What configuration gives 120GB from 80 + 60? Is it not multiples of the smallest drive? Like (n-1)x, n being number of drives and x being the capacity of the smallest drive? Am I wrong in thinking that the SCSI drives will be faster than the IDE setup, given their age? The DiamondMax is ATA66 whereas the Caviar and DeskStar are ATA100, but the Quantums are Ultra160. The Quantums however, are older, and the primary use of this will be ~, where random access will be preferred over sequential streaming. It may not be the case any more given advances in IDE/ATA technology but it certainly used to be that all other things being equal SCSI would win where the workload was of a more random nature. It's bus protocol is (was?) more advanced and allowed command queueing. The OS could send a bunch of requests at the drive and it would be able to service them in the order it saw fit based on where the heads where at. Whereas with IDE everything was serialised and the drive would have to wait for the blocks to pass the heads, service that request, and then take another request, wait for the data to go by the heads and so on.. So SCSI made sense in file servers and multiuser systems, and IDE in the likes of a video editing workstation where access would be largely sequential. Of course then you have to factor in drive the performance, cache and so on. And overhead/benefits of disk configuration options - RAID*/JBOD. There may be other benefits to SCSI I've missed, and I admittedly know little if anything about modern ATA drives. I think that settles it then... SCSI it is :-) They may be old, but still more advanced. On the plus side, it frees up some drives for use in other machines :-) Cheers, Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] AJAX Talk
Afternoon all, Apologies for the delay. As some of you are aware, the talk, AJAX, Asynchronous JavaScript and XML by Lawrence Sweeney on 30th November was caught on camera. The unedited footage has now been uploaded for your viewing pleasure at http://lodge.glasgownet.com/blog/2006/12/12/ajax-talk/. It's currently in Ogg Theora format, and if I ever get round to putting a title and some floating text stuff, then it'll be posted to the same location. Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free monitor
Sorted now. Cheers Kyle Andrew Barber wrote: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~bagpuss/G500/CIMG1297.JPG on this server. :( Don't really want it, just being nosy. Kyle Gordon wrote: Is anyone interested in a free 21 Sony G500 monitor? It was great, and is a lovely flat screen CRT. http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/G500/ It has a slight glitch in that the picture has shifted an inch to the left, leaving it looking a compressed on the left, and a gap on the right. I'm sure it can be fixed, but I don't know how. It's free to a good home on Thursday 21st evening, if anyone wants it. Please register interest before then by email, as I need to take the car to work that day if someone is interested. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free monitor
On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:46, William Anderson wrote: Kyle Gordon wrote: Is anyone interested in a free 21 Sony G500 monitor? It was great, and is a lovely flat screen CRT. http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/G500/ Admit it, you just wanted to show off your ORA book collection :) I'm just glad I'm not being pulled up for the Discover Delphi book :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Thursday Meeting *IMPORTANT*
Well, true. These Christmas Pop Quiz events are best left to another time... Kyle On Wednesday 20 December 2006 19:30, ptb wrote: Hallo : - Good, best of both worlds; any really major event is for the New Year and it's only towards Mardi Gras that a few of the more serious players are liable to lose count. Pat On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:44:27 + Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent on behalf of Ben... OK - we've been trying to arrange this, but due to the really short notice, and the fact that MrLithic, quizmaster, has been ill all week, we've decided that the best thing to do is to postpone the quiz until January's meeting, and instead just have a Christmas bash in the Counting House. There's likely to be folks there from around 6pm. Looking forward to seeing you there. Merry Christmas Ben Thorp (aka mrben) Our apologies for the lateness of this change of plan, but there really wasn't much choice or notice. As noted, the quiz, with prizes, will be held on January 25th 2007. Hope you all have a great Christmas and New Year. Regards Kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 19/12/2006 15:08:24: It would appear that Livingstone Tower is not available to us as a venue for Thursdays quiz night. We are trying to find somewhere alternative, but would welcome any suggestions (or preferably offers) of somewhere convenient. As soon as I know anything, it'll get posted here. Ben Thorp ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish --- -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Fans
Typically, the cooling fan in my HTPC packed in 2 days before I go on holiday. I like to think I don't watch much TV, but I'm not looking forward to missing Scrubs, Top/Fifth Gear, CSI (Charlottes) whilst I'm away... Would anyone be willing to part with a 12v 80x80x15mm fan for some money/beer/fame/recognition/etc? Alternatively, does anyone know a supplier of these near Charing Cross, or know of one that they can get locally and bring along to the meet tomorrow. The aforementioned money/beer/fame/recognition/etc will be offered in return :-) Priceless and PCWorld don't have such an item listed online. http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/116274 is such a beastie, but unlikely to arrive by Thursday evening if I order now :'-( Cheers all, Kyle -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Free monitor
The monitor is now going in the bin. Carted the damn thing about all day today and brought it to Scotlug. Maybe I took it for granted that a potential taker would turn up. Silly me. Joste: the Haynes manual from 3 months ago has been handed back to Gordon. Kyle On Friday 15 December 2006 00:37, Joste Bowen wrote: I'll taker it if it's still going, it seems I'm collecting broken monitors at the moment. On Thursday 14 December 2006 21:24, Kyle Gordon wrote: Is anyone interested in a free 21 Sony G500 monitor? It was great, and is a lovely flat screen CRT. http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/G500/ It has a slight glitch in that the picture has shifted an inch to the left, leaving it looking a compressed on the left, and a gap on the right. I'm sure it can be fixed, but I don't know how. It's free to a good home on Thursday 21st evening, if anyone wants it. Please register interest before then by email, as I need to take the car to work that day if someone is interested. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lodge.glasgownet.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Which distro
Yes, it'll be the development headers for X. In Ubuntu, try installing the following. xlibs-dev libx11-dev kdebase-dev I'm sure it'll be xlibs-dev that provides what you need. The configure script won't tell you what packages you need, as it's just a generic source tarball. It isn't tailored to your particular distribution, and thus can only provide generic error messages. Is there any reason that you can't install the software from the package archives? What's the name of the software and why do you need to compile it from scratch? The average (new-to-Linux) Ubuntu user isn't going to be wanting to compile software, but instead should rely on the vast collection of software available in the package repositories. Regards Kyle On Fri, December 29, 2006 3:32 pm, Joseph Kerr wrote: Hi, Are these dev packages for the X includes or something else? I know that I may not have all of the files for the kdeveloper app. I was hoping to find out what they are when the ./configure completes. Joe On 12/29/06, Gordon JC Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Kerr wrote: Stephen, Here is the error message, 'Checking for X... configure: error. can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths.' Since I probably will not hear form you until after the new year have a nice time at the bells. Joe Have you got the appropriate -dev packages installed? Gordon ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish -- Joe ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
You certainly don't need to get cable. I don't know who gave you that idea. If Ubuntu detects your DSL modem (ADSL is the same as DSL for the purposes of your case), then that's all good. You still don't say what model of ADSL modem you have, so we're back at square one. Kyle babaguy wrote: Hi Kyle ! Thanks for the tip - Ubuntu detected that there *is* an ethernet device/ability or something on this(lovely) old heap - My sweetheart seems to think we need to get DSL as opposed to ADSL - does this sound right to you? e.g. - do we need to get *cable* ? I think not, but I'm not techy-speccy enough to be able to confidently rebut or reboot her.. Hope you can help some more - Paul B. --- On Fri 01/12, Kyle Gordon lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote:From: Kyle Gordon [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:41:54 +Subject: Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...What model of Voyager modem is it? It's best not to use USB, and use Ethernet instead. That way you can use a bog standard network card, about 99% of which are guaranteed to work in any form of operating system. If you use a network card, Linux will support it without the need for any crazy drivers from BT or its 3rd party, 4th partner, 2nd outsourced software/hardware makers in India that happened to get cheapest bid of the day in for BT kit...Kylebabaguy wrote:gt; Hi SLUGgers! WOW ! gt;gt; Okay - so, I've managed (well, my SWEETHEART managed) to make a functioning computer out of a bunch of old stuff, I got a monitor off FREESHARE, I've installed UBUNTU 5.10 - the one they are currently giving away in the smart, inviting packaging (picked it up from PC Medic in Paisley - nice shop btw) - gt;gt; - and it seems to WORK ! ! ! gt;gt; Perseverance pays off ! (some of you may recall my first attempts w/Linux about 3 years ago - the Suse Home edition (NOTHING worked - except Chess at ONE level only!) - and then an earlier edition of Ubuntu...grrr.gt;gt; - but no more, I sense! gt;gt; Okay! Here's my question. We have BT Total Broadband - gt;gt; (but I DON'T have the new TOTAL Broadband router - I have a BT VOYAGER ADSL modem - which I also got on FREESHARE. Works good!)gt;gt; There is a CD which has the modem driver for Windows XP - it's what I'm using to access the internet on the other computer... (bless it). gt;gt; What do I need to do to make my UBUNTU computer recognise the ADSL modem and vice versa? gt;gt; Does BT do a CD for installation with Linux? gt;gt; Is there one of you SLUGgers who HAS the drivers that will work in Linux and recognise the BT VOYAGER ADSL modem? I currently don't have a CD or DVD re-writer, only CD-ROM (on both the XP and the UBUNTU machines) so I don't think I'll be able to download and burn a version of the driver even if I were to find it on a Linux web driver repository.gt;gt; I hope one of you will be able to help and advise me on this, as I'd REALLY like to be able to get online with the Ubuntu machine.gt;gt; I REALLY like this new-ish Ubuntu, by the way - it's fun! (and it seems to WORK ! )gt;gt; Yours in hope, and with THANKS in advance,gt;gt; - Paul Birchard gt;gt; ___gt; No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.gt; Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.comgt; ___gt; Scottish mailing listgt; Scottish@mailman.lug.org.ukgt; https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottishgt;gt; ___Scottish mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
Hi Paul, This is the first that you mention the Speedtouch 330. All previous opinions were based on the BT Voyager which you mention (of which I know of at least 4 different models). I never used my Speedtouch, I handed it away on Freecycle. I do recall setting one up about 6 years ago for a friend, and they were a nightmare back then. Things have improved though, and there's a howto written here... http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html There may be a way of doing it with pointy clicky interface things, but I've not come across it. Ben Thorp, our wonderful Ubuntu Community Hero, may be able to point you in the right direction if you don't want to go near the command line. Kyle PS. Less capitals, proper punctuation. We lean towards formal writing styles here. babaguy wrote: Hi Kyle ! (and all...)As I say in the first post, the modem which is on this (XP) machine is a BT Voyager ADSL modem - the other modem I just picked up thanks to FREESHARE! is a THOMSON Speed Touch 330 which is the one I'll try to make work with the linux box.And the problem is still - where do I go in Ubuntu to configure a modem? I can't see either modem, ADSL, Network connections...How do I get the Linux machine to recognise BT and log onto its server? What function should I be using to set up and configure a connection to the internet, to get Ubuntu to recognise the modem? ? I can't find any pages about this in Firefox or Gnome..(nor do I see the initials RTFM (and what do they mean, anyway?) I would have thought that RTFM would be a topic or a term in the glossary, but so far I can't find it in UBUNTU.) Hope you can help...! - Paul B. --- On Sat 01/13, Kyle Gordon lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote: From: Kyle Gordon [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:37:17 +Subject: Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...You certainly don't need to get cable. I don't know who gave you thatidea. If Ubuntu detects your DSL modem (ADSL is the same as DSL for thepurposes of your case), then that's all good. You still don't say whatmodel of ADSL modem you have, so we're back at square one.Kylebabaguy wrote:gt; Hi Kyle ! Thanks for the tip - Ubuntu detected that there *is* an ethernet device/ability or something on this(lovely) old heap - My sweetheart seems to think we need to get DSL as opposed to ADSL - does this sound right to you? gt;gt; e.g. - do we need to get *cable* ? I think not, but I'm not techy-speccy enough to be able to confidently rebut or reboot her..gt;gt; Hope you can help some more - Paul B. gt;gt; gt;gt; gt;gt; --- On Fri 01/12, Kyle Gordon amp;lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] amp;gt; wrote:From: Kyle Gordon [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:41:54 +Subject: Re: [Scottish] Broadband Question...What model of Voyager modem is it? It's best not to use USB, and use Ethernet instead. That way you can use a bog standard network card, about 99% of which are guaranteed to work in any form of operating system. If you use a network card, Linux will support it without the need for any crazy drivers from BT or its 3rd party, 4th partner, 2nd outsourced software/hardware makers in India that happened to get cheapest bid of the day in for BT kit...Kylebabaguy wrote:amp;gt; Hi SLUGgers! WOW ! amp;gt;amp;gt; Okay - so, I've managed (well, my SWEETHEART managed) to make a functioning computer out of a bunch of old stuff, I got a monitor off FREESHARE, I've installed UBUNTU 5.10 - the one they are currently giving away in the smart, inviting packaging gt; (picked it up from PC Medic in Paisley - nice shop btw) - amp;gt;amp;gt; - and it seems to WORK ! ! ! amp;gt;amp;gt; Perseverance pays off ! (some of you may recall my first attempts w/Linux about 3 years ago - the Suse Home edition (NOTHING worked - except Chess at ONE level only!) - and then an earlier edition of Ubuntu...grrr.amp;gt;amp;gt; - but no more, I sense! amp;gt;amp;gt; Okay! Here's my question. We have BT Total Broadband - amp;gt;amp;gt; (but I DON'T have the new TOTAL Broadband router - I have a BT VOYAGER ADSL modem - which I also got on FREESHARE. Works good!)amp;gt;amp;gt; There is a CD which has the modem driver for Windows XP - it's what I'm using to access the internet on the other computer... (bless it). amp;gt;amp;gt; What do I need to do to make my UBUNTU computer recognise the ADSL modem and vice versa? amp;gt;amp;gt; Does BT do a CD for installation with Linux? amp;gt;amp;gt; Is there one of you SLUGgers who HAS the drivers that will work in Linux and recognise the BT VOYAGER ADSL modem? I gt; currently don't have a CD or DVD re-writer, only CD-ROM (on both the XP and the UBUNTU machines) so I don't think I'll be able to download and burn a version of the driver even if I were to find it on a Linux web driver repository.amp
Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...
babaguy wrote: Thanks Kyle, for the link and the heads-up! There was so much information on the page that I haven't tried to follow what it suggests - I think it requires that I download the firmware for the Speed Touch and burn it to a CD and then run that CD on the Ubuntu box in order to configure the Speed Touch - ( Since I don't have a CD-R on either computer I figure this would be an interesting process.) Gordon simply said to bin the Speed Touch, and I probably will... What is the simplest way to get on the net via Linux - How do YOU guys do it? The simplest way would be to get a Safecom SAMR-4112 (http://safecom.cn/code/sub/category.asp?prdid=182subcatid=1) from http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=19509. You should be able to plug your telephone line straight into this, and it will give you 2 ports to which your computers can connect. You can connect your Ubuntu machine with a normal network cable, and the Windows machine with a USB cable. It even comes with a built in firewall, so you don't have to worry about getting Zonealarm for your Windows machine or anything like that. If you want to expand your network, just get a simple 5 port switch and hook it up to the ethernet port that you previously used for the Ubuntu machine. Voila, another 4 ports for 4 more machines. Your other half will love you even more for it :-) You'd want it in router mode, so it can share your internet connection between your XP machine and your Ubuntu machine. Both would connect to it using standard network cards and cables, and you wouldn't need any software provided by your provider. Just feed your username, password, etc into the web interface of the router, and connect up your computers and tell them to automatically get their IP address from the network. Everyone I know who has a home network of any size (ie, more than one computer), uses a setup similar to this. Whether it's a nice and simple device such as this, a Linksys with modified firmware, or a fully fledged computer running all sorts of weird and wonderful firewall software, the basics end up being the same. One device to handle the network connection, and a bunch of computers using standard settings on the home network. It makes life nice and easy for the future, and you don't have to rely on crazy custom software from BT/NTL/Wanadoo/Force9/UnameIT (all of which will hate each other if you try to change provider one day) Let us know how you get on :-) Kyle Thanks again, all, and - why aren't we all in our beds by now? - Paul ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...
Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nicely I (and others) may be able to bring some along to the meet for nowt ;-) Ubuntu is nice and shiny because the very nice man called Mark Shuttleworth is behind it. He's a millionaire or something like that, and likes to spend his money on being a space tourist, running and selling Thawte (the people that make sure online shopping is safe), and Ubuntu. There's a good article about him at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth Kyle babaguy wrote: Boy oh Boy, Thanks you guys!I now have been forced to LOOK at (oops! too many capial letters! I'm typing with capital letters! I'm typing with capital letters! (think: 'running with scissors.') - - as I say, FORCED (by my sweetheart) to peruse the windows machine and the CD *is* a re-writer, so I may hassle around with firmware download for the Speed Touch - £'s *are* a consideration just now...But in a few weeks I should be able to buy me a modem/router... BTW, we do not have NIC cards for these computers, so the modems run off the USB only, though I'm going to try to get some ethernet cables as we have this surge protector/hub thang and it may be of some use..for internet connection ! I really *do* appreciate all your help - one of these thursdays you might even glimpse me at the Counting House, where people count! Thanks for being guys I could count on, - Paul B. p.s. last question: Have any of you ever been suspicious about who actually owns Canonical? The packaging is so well designed and attractive, but where do they get the money to pay people to put out a new version every six months, when they are giving it away ? If anyone knows anything or has opinions about this situation, please share them with me. - p.b. ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...
Rand, Dollah or Pound? Kyle Alex Walker wrote: He was also the first African in space. Isn't he a *billionaire*? On 15 Jan 2007, at 12:54, Kyle Gordon wrote: Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nicely I (and others) may be able to bring some along to the meet for nowt ;-) Ubuntu is nice and shiny because the very nice man called Mark Shuttleworth is behind it. He's a millionaire or something like that, and likes to spend his money on being a space tourist, running and selling Thawte (the people that make sure online shopping is safe), and Ubuntu. There's a good article about him at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth Kyle babaguy wrote: Boy oh Boy, Thanks you guys!I now have been forced to LOOK at (oops! too many capial letters! I'm typing with capital letters! I'm typing with capital letters! (think: 'running with scissors.') - - as I say, FORCED (by my sweetheart) to peruse the windows machine and the CD *is* a re-writer, so I may hassle around with firmware download for the Speed Touch - £'s *are* a consideration just now...But in a few weeks I should be able to buy me a modem/router... BTW, we do not have NIC cards for these computers, so the modems run off the USB only, though I'm going to try to get some ethernet cables as we have this surge protector/hub thang and it may be of some use..for internet connection ! I really *do* appreciate all your help - one of these thursdays you might even glimpse me at the Counting House, where people count! Thanks for being guys I could count on, - Paul B. p.s. last question: Have any of you ever been suspicious about who actually owns Canonical? The packaging is so well designed and attractive, but where do they get the money to pay people to put out a new version every six months, when they are giving it away ? If anyone knows anything or has opinions about this situation, please share them with me. - p.b. ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] Petitions
I thought some of you may be interested in the following petitions currently on the go at pm.gov.uk... http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/softwarepatents/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Open-IT-projects/ Worth a read and possibly even a signature. Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Gaelic Spellchecker
J.R. Seago wrote: Well that was interesting, and between us we managed to increase the traffic on the list to the point where it sent out a digest on one subject. I seem to have been led along gently by the rest of you to the point where I have arrived at this: http://www.intco.biz/open-source/open-office-scots-gaelic.htm However the websites from which one can download Gaelic Open Office all seem to be out of date, or not yet finished. Well, we were talking about Gaelic spellcheckers originally, and now we're onto versions of OpenOffice localized into Gaelic. What is it you want? Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Gaelic Spellchecker
J.R. Seago¹ wrote: On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:15, William Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand this argument. A 1:4 Welsh:English speaking ratio surely deserves more attention than a 1:86 Scots Gaelic:English ratio? At a per-head rate, the WLB gets ~ £19, given the figures you and others have quoted (£13.7m/0.7m people). The GLB gets ~ £75 (4.409m/0.058m) per head! Where's the problem here? Scotland 5,062,011 population getting £4,409,000 = £0·88 approx. per head for linguistic and cultural preservation and promotion. Wales 2,903,085 population getting £13,700,000 = £4·72 approx. per head for linguistic and cultural preservation and promotion. 5·36 times as much per head as the language and culture of Scotland gets, when it could be argued that as one in four already speaks the language that it is not as much in need of preservation as the culture and language of a nation where only only one in eighty-six of the population speak the minority language. I would argue that the spending needs to be concentrated where the need is greatest, in Scotland. The Welsh have got the funding and recognition, in my opinion, because an element of their cultural and linguistic grouping is prepared to commit violence and illegality to get their cause the news/media coverage, ...A hundred protesters blockaded the entrance to a supermarket in Bangor, North Wales on Saturday 27 January and three protesters were arrested for suspected criminal damage. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/new Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
[Scottish] aKademy2007
Evening all, Thought I would take this opportunity to ask a few questions to the ScotLUG community. aKademy2007 is coming up at the end of June, and we're in the middle of preparations for it. We are currently seeking suggestions on where to hold a formal dinner for approximately 200 people preferably in the Glasgow city centre area. There's a lot of restaurants out there, but not many seem to want 200 people. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anyone is aware of companies that might be interested in sponsoring the event, please get in touch. If you have any KDE related presentations that you wish to do, then now's your chance to answer the call for papers. Equally, we're interested in any people that would be interested in helping during the event. Even a couple of hours would go a long way to helping it run smoothly. The event runs from June 30th to July 7th, and more details are available at http://akademy2007.kde.org. Regards Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] Windows Vista Business value thingy
Andrew Back wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, ed wrote: Send back the media and license agreement and see if you can get a cash refund :o) Indeed. Dell seem to be acting nice about it... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6144782.stm Just make sure you document it properly. :-) Kyle Andrew ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
Re: [Scottish] February Meeting
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 10:23:10 Chris Nicolson wrote: February's meeting will take place tomorrow night (Thursday 25th January), I've missed my flight! You barsteward! Kyle ___ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish
