Re: [Server-devel] Problems with the School Server and IIAB

2013-09-05 Thread Braddock
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School Server Experts,

We are trying to deploy an Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) network appliance
to an OLPC and XS school in Pakistan. (http://internet-in-a-box.org)

I need help getting them instructions so they can access the device
using their School Server XS 0.7

The IIAB appliance gets an DHCP lease on startup from their XS 0.7 server.

The IIAB appliance registers its name with the DHCP server as know.

In THEORY, on the XS, dhcpd should register the name know with the
named DNS server (ddns-update-style is set in /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf on my
own XS installation).  Then students can access the IIAB appliance at
http://know

- From their reports, this appears to work initially, but after some
time (DHCP lease expires?) it stops working.

I'm looking for a simple solution to communicate to them to assign the
IIAB appliance a fixed IP address.  It is currently not (safely)
possible to configure the IIAB appliance for a static IP.  Then they
can just refer to it by IP.

I assume it should look something like:
host know {
 hardware ethernet 00:03:6D:00:83:CF;
 fixed-address 172.18.97.10;
}
added to /etc/dhcpd.conf

But with my very limited School Server experience I don't want to lead
them astray.

Any help appreciated.

- -braddock



On 08/31/2013 04:03 AM, Kishwer.Aziz wrote:
 Tony,
 
 Since my return from Pakistan in early August, the local support
 team has been struggling with getting the school server and IIAB to
 work on the network they have created using 8 routers (one for
 every class of 20 students)
 
 
 
 I have asked them to explain to me what the problem is and not
 being technical I cannot understand what they are telling me. Given
 below is their technical explanation for what is happening.
 Verbally I have been told that sometimes some children can connect
 while others cannot. When they turn the whole system on and off,
 look for the IP allocated to the IIAB by the Server, give it to the
 children they can connect to it but next day this changes.
 
 
 
 Can you find us a solution for us? Tell us what we are doing
 wrong?
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 Kishwer
 
 
 
 *From:*Younus Zafar [mailto:younusza...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday,
 August 30, 2013 11:45 AM *To:* Kishwer.Aziz *Subject:*
 
 
 
 salam madam
 
 (1)School server is assigning IP of two pools for clients( i-e 
 172.18.96.X  172.18.97.X
 
 (2) it creates problem for Xo's to connect with IIAB server  they 
 cannot  use DNS resolver for domain name “know”
 
 -- */
 
 /*
 
 *Muhammad Younus Zafar* *_S_*_enior *S*ystem *S*upport *E*ngineer_ 
 BR News Room   Aaj News
 
 
 

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Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] Problems with the School Server and IIAB

2013-09-05 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 06:49 -0700, Braddock wrote:
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 School Server Experts,
 
 We are trying to deploy an Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) network appliance
 to an OLPC and XS school in Pakistan. (http://internet-in-a-box.org)
 
 I need help getting them instructions so they can access the device
 using their School Server XS 0.7
 
 The IIAB appliance gets an DHCP lease on startup from their XS 0.7 server.
 
 The IIAB appliance registers its name with the DHCP server as know.
 
 In THEORY, on the XS, dhcpd should register the name know with the
 named DNS server (ddns-update-style is set in /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf on my
 own XS installation).  Then students can access the IIAB appliance at
 http://know
 
 - From their reports, this appears to work initially, but after some
 time (DHCP lease expires?) it stops working.
 
 I'm looking for a simple solution to communicate to them to assign the
 IIAB appliance a fixed IP address.  It is currently not (safely)
 possible to configure the IIAB appliance for a static IP.  Then they
 can just refer to it by IP.
 
 I assume it should look something like:
 host know {
  hardware ethernet 00:03:6D:00:83:CF;
  fixed-address 172.18.97.10;
 }
 added to /etc/dhcpd.conf
 

Add that to the template file /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf.in 

xs-domain-config this replaces the domain name marker in the template
while copying the file to /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf
 
reload/restart dhcpd

Jerry

 But with my very limited School Server experience I don't want to lead
 them astray.
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 - -braddock
 
 
 
 On 08/31/2013 04:03 AM, Kishwer.Aziz wrote:
  Tony,
  
  Since my return from Pakistan in early August, the local support
  team has been struggling with getting the school server and IIAB to
  work on the network they have created using 8 routers (one for
  every class of 20 students)
  
  
  
  I have asked them to explain to me what the problem is and not
  being technical I cannot understand what they are telling me. Given
  below is their technical explanation for what is happening.
  Verbally I have been told that sometimes some children can connect
  while others cannot. When they turn the whole system on and off,
  look for the IP allocated to the IIAB by the Server, give it to the
  children they can connect to it but next day this changes.
  
  
  
  Can you find us a solution for us? Tell us what we are doing
  wrong?
  
  
  
  Regards
  
  
  
  Kishwer
  
  
  
  *From:*Younus Zafar [mailto:younusza...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday,
  August 30, 2013 11:45 AM *To:* Kishwer.Aziz *Subject:*
  
  
  
  salam madam
  
  (1)School server is assigning IP of two pools for clients( i-e 
  172.18.96.X  172.18.97.X
  
  (2) it creates problem for Xo's to connect with IIAB server  they 
  cannot  use DNS resolver for domain name “know”
  
  -- */
  
  /*
  
  *Muhammad Younus Zafar* *_S_*_enior *S*ystem *S*upport *E*ngineer_ 
  BR News Room   Aaj News
  
  
  
 
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[Server-devel] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-05 Thread David Farning
Hey all,

I would like to float the idea of a School Server Special Interest
Group as part of the upcoming OLP-SF conference.

Over the last year, there has been a lot of activity around the school
server. In addition to the ongoing OLPC - School Server work, the
School Server Community Edition project has established itself as the
leading community supported upstream project. Activity Central is
creating Dextrose Server, a professionally support Downstream school
server product on top of XSCE.

With that in mind, I would like to test the temperature of the water
about holding a School Server submit as part OLPC-SF with a possible
School Server code sprint to follow.

The timing of this summit opens up several opportunities for
coordination between the people and organizations developing the
School server and the the people and organizations deploying the
server. Anyone interested interested in school server focused talks,
tutorials, sessions?

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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-05 Thread Adam Holt
Indeed, two very successful XSCE 0.4 RC1 / IIAB server installations here
in Haiti over the past 10 days (at 2 very different schools) where George
Hunt  I learned more than we could have imagined.

I'd encourage folks to use the following page as a scratchpad for school
server ideas of all kind coming together around SF Oct 18-20 and exactly 4
weeks later in Malaysia Nov 16-18 for the new Asia/Pacific folk too!

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/0.5/Sprint





On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:

 Hey all,

 I would like to float the idea of a School Server Special Interest
 Group as part of the upcoming OLP-SF conference.

 Over the last year, there has been a lot of activity around the school
 server. In addition to the ongoing OLPC - School Server work, the
 School Server Community Edition project has established itself as the
 leading community supported upstream project. Activity Central is
 creating Dextrose Server, a professionally support Downstream school
 server product on top of XSCE.

 With that in mind, I would like to test the temperature of the water
 about holding a School Server submit as part OLPC-SF with a possible
 School Server code sprint to follow.

 The timing of this summit opens up several opportunities for
 coordination between the people and organizations developing the
 School server and the the people and organizations deploying the
 server. Anyone interested interested in school server focused talks,
 tutorials, sessions?

 --
 David Farning
 Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com




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Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] School Server Special Interest Group at OLPC-SF

2013-09-05 Thread David Farning
Great,

I have been thinking of two parallel themes for how school servers can
add value to the conference.

Dogfooding/Demo. School server developers from various projects could
dogfood their work at the conference by providing network connectivity
for all participants via their server. This will provide an
interesting feedback loop about what works and what else is needed.
Plus it could be fun for everyone.

Deployment feedback. The idea here would be to have a set of talks by
deployments about how school servers add value to their projects and
what else school servers can do to make their lives easier. The less
time deployments have to worry about technical stuff like school
servers, the more time they have to think about the educational side
of the project:)

From there we can have a talk about how the various people and
organizations involved in school server projects can work together (if
possible) to meet the needs of deployments.

Finally, we can shift to work mode to design and implement solutions
identified by dogfooding and deployment feedback.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote:
 Indeed, two very successful XSCE 0.4 RC1 / IIAB server installations here in
 Haiti over the past 10 days (at 2 very different schools) where George Hunt
  I learned more than we could have imagined.

 I'd encourage folks to use the following page as a scratchpad for school
 server ideas of all kind coming together around SF Oct 18-20 and exactly 4
 weeks later in Malaysia Nov 16-18 for the new Asia/Pacific folk too!

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/0.5/Sprint





 On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM, David Farning
 dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 I would like to float the idea of a School Server Special Interest
 Group as part of the upcoming OLP-SF conference.

 Over the last year, there has been a lot of activity around the school
 server. In addition to the ongoing OLPC - School Server work, the
 School Server Community Edition project has established itself as the
 leading community supported upstream project. Activity Central is
 creating Dextrose Server, a professionally support Downstream school
 server product on top of XSCE.

 With that in mind, I would like to test the temperature of the water
 about holding a School Server submit as part OLPC-SF with a possible
 School Server code sprint to follow.

 The timing of this summit opens up several opportunities for
 coordination between the people and organizations developing the
 School server and the the people and organizations deploying the
 server. Anyone interested interested in school server focused talks,
 tutorials, sessions?

 --
 David Farning
 Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com




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