date:20180128

Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy

2018-01-28 Thread Rajesh Panwala

I partially support the policy. For genuine M cases , there should not be
any restriction on transfer of resources. M activities are part and
parcel of routine business and no one knows when will it take place.

regards,

Rajesh Panwala
For Smartlink Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
+91-9227886001

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Bertrand Cherrier  wrote:

> Dear SIG members,
>
> The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
> been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
>
> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
> Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.
>
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
> before the meeting.
>
> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
> express your views on the proposal:
>
>  - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>  - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
>tell the community about your situation.
>  - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
>effective?
>
> Information about this proposal is available at:
>
>http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123
>
> Regards
>
> Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
>
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt
>
> ---
>
> prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
>
> ---
>
> Proposer:Alex Yang
>  yang...@126.com
>
>
> 1. Problem statement
> ---
>
> Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in
> the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep
> 2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8
> block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.
>
> However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
> Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The
> community was not aware of the restriction when they received those
> resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to
> transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered,
> there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC
> Whois data.
>
>
> 2. Objective of policy change
> ---
>
> To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.
>
>
> 3. Situation in other regions
> ---
>
> No such situation in other regions.
>
>
> 4. Proposed policy solution
> ---
>
> “Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)
> which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment”
> should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14
> Sep 2017.
>
>
> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
> ---
>
> Advantages:
>
> - Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC
>   Whois data correct.
>
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> None.
>
>
> 6. Impact on resource holders
> ---
>
> Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources
> were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
>
>
>
> 7. References
> ---
>
>
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Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2018-01-28 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Hi,

I see this as more of a "do not make policy retroactively".  People who
"bought" an "asset" in good faith should not be told it is worth different
now.

I am amenable to changing the cut-off date in Prop-123 to the date it was
sent to the Policy SIG, as that might have given warning to people the
rules were changing.

APNIC Secretariat, how many transfers will be affected by Prop-123?


-- 
Sanjeev Gupta
+65 98551208   http://sg.linkedin.com/in/ghane

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Henderson Mike, Mr <
michael.hender...@nzdf.mil.nz> wrote:

> Not supported
>
>
>
> The proposal should in my opinion be amended to read:
>
> ___
>
> Disadvantages:
>
>
>
> None Completely negates the purpose of prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer 
> IPv4 addresses in
>
> the final /8 block.
>
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> *Mike*
>
>
>
> *From:* sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-bounces@
> lists.apnic.net] *On Behalf Of *Bertrand Cherrier
> *Sent:* Friday, 26 January 2018 4:28 p.m.
> *To:* sig-pol...@apnic.net
> *Subject:* [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
>
>
>
> Dear SIG members,
>
> The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
> been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
>
> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
> Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.
>
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
> before the meeting.
>
> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
> express your views on the proposal:
>
>  - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>  - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
>tell the community about your situation.
>  - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
>effective?
>
> Information about this proposal is available at:
>
>http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123
>
> Regards
>
> Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
>
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt
>
> ---
>
>
>
> prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Proposer:Alex Yang
>
>  yang...@126.com
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. Problem statement
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in
>
> the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep
>
> 2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8
>
> block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.
>
>
>
> However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
>
> Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The
>
> community was not aware of the restriction when they received those
>
> resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to
>
> transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered,
>
> there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC
>
> Whois data.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2. Objective of policy change
>
> ---
>
>
>
> To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.
>
>
>
>
>
> 3. Situation in other regions
>
> ---
>
>
>
> No such situation in other regions.
>
>
>
>
>
> 4. Proposed policy solution
>
> ---
>
>
>
> “Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)
>
> which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment”
>
> should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14
>
> Sep 2017.
>
>
>
>
>
> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Advantages:
>
>
>
> - Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC
>
>   Whois data correct.
>
>
>
>
>
> Disadvantages:
>
>
>
> None.
>
>
>
>
>
> 6. Impact on resource holders
>
> ---
>
>
>
> Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources
>
> were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 7. References
>
> ---
>
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Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2018-01-28 Thread Henderson Mike, Mr

Not supported

The proposal should in my opinion be amended to read:
___

Disadvantages:



None Completely negates the purpose of prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 
addresses in

the final /8 block.
___


Regards


Mike

From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net 
[mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Bertrand Cherrier
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 4:28 p.m.
To: sig-pol...@apnic.net
Subject: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy

Dear SIG members,

The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
been sent to the Policy SIG for review.

It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.

We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
before the meeting.

The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:

 - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
 - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
   tell the community about your situation.
 - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
 - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
 - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
   effective?

Information about this proposal is available at:

   http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123

Regards

Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs

https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt


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prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy



---



Proposer:Alex Yang

 yang...@126.com





1. Problem statement

---



Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in

the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep

2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8

block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.



However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.

Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The

community was not aware of the restriction when they received those

resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to

transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered,

there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC

Whois data.





2. Objective of policy change

---



To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.





3. Situation in other regions

---



No such situation in other regions.





4. Proposed policy solution

---



“Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)

which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment”

should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14

Sep 2017.





5. Advantages / Disadvantages

---



Advantages:



- Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC

  Whois data correct.





Disadvantages:



None.





6. Impact on resource holders

---



Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources

were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.







7. References

---

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