[silk] Introduction
Hi ... I'm new to this list, so I thought I'd say hello. :) I run community development projects for Sun on the OpenSolaris project and have done so for 4 years now. I moved to Japan last year to focus on open source in Asia. I'll be traveling to Bangalore for the first time for FOSS.IN in December and Sun's Tech Days in February. So, I'd love to get to know more people in India since I hope to visit very often. More info at my bio: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/page/bio Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris
[silk] Another n00b
Hello, I'm new on this list, though not new to the list. I'm Chandru, a copywriter. I worked for a while (and grew up) in Chennai, and have recently moved to Dubai. I make a complete fool of myself at first. And when enough people have ignored/overlooked me, I take over the world. That's right. C -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ http://chennai.metblogs.com +91-9884467463
Re: [silk] Another n00b
On 8/22/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, though not new to the list. I'm Chandru, a copywriter. I worked for a while (and grew up) in Chennai, and have recently moved to Dubai. I make a complete fool of myself at first. And when enough people have ignored/overlooked me, I take over the world. That's right. You do realise that joining this list is a counterproductive step for your stated goal of being ignored by the whole world (before taking over that is). My recommendation would be to disconnect your internet connection, don sackcloth and ashes, and retire to a cave somewhere to meditate upon your navel. Most people would ignore you that way. Alternatively you could join a software company and make sensible suggestions. That has always worked for me. -- b
Re: [silk] Another n00b
On 8/22/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, though not new to the list. I'm Chandru, a copywriter. I worked for a while (and grew up) in Chennai, I was very intrigued by the parenthetical intervention. You worked and then grew up? ;) Welcome aboard Nishant -- Nishant Shah Ph.D. Student, CSCS, Bangalore. Project Manager, COMAT, Bangalore. # 0-9341645206
Re: [silk] Another n00b
On 8/22/07, Nishant Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was very intrigued by the parenthetical intervention. You worked and then grew up? ;) Why not? I've been working for a long time now but I still haven't gotten around to growing up. -- b
Re: [silk] Another n00b
On 8/22/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, though not new to the list. Hi Chandra, welcome :) Not sure if you remember, but we met a long time back at a party in Chennai... -Karra
Re: [silk] Another n00b
Hi Chandra, welcome, though we never met at any party in Chennai or elsewhere... (got to keep on the right side of a world potentate-to-be.) Deepa. On 8/22/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, though not new to the list. Hi Chandra, welcome :) Not sure if you remember, but we met a long time back at a party in Chennai... -Karra
Re: [silk] Another n00b
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Biju Chacko wrote: You do realise that joining this list is a counterproductive step for your stated goal of being ignored by the whole world (before taking over that is). My recommendation would be to disconnect your internet connection, don sackcloth and ashes, and retire to a cave somewhere to meditate upon your navel. Most people would ignore you that way. Meditate upon the navel ? That's going to take some flexibility if not attain a permanent crick in the neck - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGzAuJXQZpNTcrCzMRAl+kAKCUgjPYsfgV/GRDCfv4U1VCEf8CZwCfaXgD puBnKWJGqJvabMhPiCLgECE= =U6Z7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] Another n00b
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Biju Chacko wrote: Why not? I've been working for a long time now but I still haven't gotten around to growing up. Hear hear ... - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGzAvTXQZpNTcrCzMRAvPjAJ46oYylNfx13NmLjimanKZSqbMPqwCeJ81f nCxFCj61wV1OYhvNA28R7zE= =3Kfa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] Introduction
Welcome aboard Jim...there's some of us who might NOT be at FOSS.in...but who would like to meet you anyway! Deepa. On 8/22/07, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ... I'm new to this list, so I thought I'd say hello. :) I run community development projects for Sun on the OpenSolaris project and have done so for 4 years now. I moved to Japan last year to focus on open source in Asia. I'll be traveling to Bangalore for the first time for FOSS.IN in December and Sun's Tech Days in February. So, I'd love to get to know more people in India since I hope to visit very often. More info at my bio: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/page/bio Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris
Re: [silk] Introduction
On 8/22/07, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome aboard Jim...there's some of us who might NOT be at FOSS.in...but who would like to meet you anyway! Seconded Nishant Deepa. On 8/22/07, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ... I'm new to this list, so I thought I'd say hello. :) I run community development projects for Sun on the OpenSolaris project and have done so for 4 years now. I moved to Japan last year to focus on open source in Asia. I'll be traveling to Bangalore for the first time for FOSS.IN in December and Sun's Tech Days in February. So, I'd love to get to know more people in India since I hope to visit very often. More info at my bio: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/page/bio Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris -- Nishant Shah Ph.D. Student, CSCS, Bangalore. Project Manager, COMAT, Bangalore. # 0-9341645206
Re: [silk] Introduction
Hey Jim, Welcome to Silk! We've talked often on the OpenSolaris mailing lists. Looking forward to meeting you at FOSS.IN. I could certainly use some help getting some of the Linux zealots here to try out OpenSolaris! :) (Biju, you there?!) Venky. On 8/22/07, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ... I'm new to this list, so I thought I'd say hello. :) I run community development projects for Sun on the OpenSolaris project and have done so for 4 years now. I moved to Japan last year to focus on open source in Asia. I'll be traveling to Bangalore for the first time for FOSS.IN in December and Sun's Tech Days in February. So, I'd love to get to know more people in India since I hope to visit very often. More info at my bio: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/page/bio Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris
Re: [silk] Another n00b
Hey man. Yup, remember you well. How're you? C On 22/08/07, Sriram Karra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/07, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, though not new to the list. Hi Chandra, welcome :) Not sure if you remember, but we met a long time back at a party in Chennai... -Karra -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ http://chennai.metblogs.com +91-9884467463
Re: [silk] Another n00b
Thanks, all. Biju: Alternatively you could join a software company and make sensible suggestions. That has always worked for me. Not just a software company, though. Pretty much any organisation ignores people who make sensible suggestions. C On 22/08/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Biju Chacko wrote: Why not? I've been working for a long time now but I still haven't gotten around to growing up. Hear hear ... - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGzAvTXQZpNTcrCzMRAvPjAJ46oYylNfx13NmLjimanKZSqbMPqwCeJ81f nCxFCj61wV1OYhvNA28R7zE= =3Kfa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ http://chennai.metblogs.com +91-9884467463
[silk] YAII
That stands for Yet Another Introduction Introduction, like YACC (for those who've studied compilers). I am a few messages old on the list as a reader (a cousin of mine had recommended it to me), and had conveniently forgotten to intro myself. So, here I am - grew up in Chennai, grew out of it, spent an eventful 10 years in IT as Technologist-Analyst-Manager-Consultant-etc and now contemplating doing something else. Like teaching. In London now. Could return to Adyar or Thiruvanmiyur. Cheers Dinesh On 8/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send silklist mailing list submissions to silklist@lists.hserus.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/silklist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of silklist digest... Today's Topics: 1. online gift shop (ashok _) 2. Re: online gift shop (Thaths) 3. Re: online gift shop (savita rao) 4. Re: online gift shop (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) 5. Introduction (Jim Grisanzio) 6. Another n00b (Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan) 7. Re: Another n00b (Biju Chacko) 8. Re: Another n00b (Nishant Shah) 9. Re: Another n00b (Biju Chacko) 10. Re: Another n00b (Sriram Karra) 11. Re: Another n00b (Deepa Mohan) 12. Re: Another n00b (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) 13. Re: Another n00b (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) 14. Re: Introduction (Deepa Mohan) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:43:53 +0300 From: ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [silk] online gift shop To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am looking for a gift shop in chennai that does home delivery for online purchases. any recommendations? ashok -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:42:52 -0700 From: Thaths [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [silk] online gift shop To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 8/21/07, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a gift shop in chennai that does home delivery for online purchases. any recommendations? I have ordered flowers and cakes to be delivered in Madras and Bobmbay off of sify.com. Thaths -- Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thing he can't buy. Marge: What's that? Homer: (pause) A dinosaur. -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:07:48 +0530 From: savita rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [silk] online gift shop To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've ordered from indiaplaza.in a couple of times, and it's worked well. Savita On 8/22/07, Thaths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/21/07, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a gift shop in chennai that does home delivery for online purchases. any recommendations? I have ordered flowers and cakes to be delivered in Madras and Bobmbay off of sify.com. Thaths -- Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thing he can't buy. Marge: What's that? Homer: (pause) A dinosaur. -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:41:23 +0530 From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [silk] online gift shop To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 savita rao wrote: I've ordered from indiaplaza.in a couple of times, and it's worked well. I have been trying out indiaplaza for a while now. While not generally bad (they can sure improve their packaging *and* their website) the only gripe I have had against them is the general lack of communication if shipment is going to be delayed - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGy8V7XQZpNTcrCzMRAkS+AJwJ2r7EyQKhK1tAO9WTtfzaSVIVlACeKkoR bzFWAEzmRubT1v3w2mOwDfI= =FiD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:13:21 +0900 From: Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [silk] YAII
On 8/22/07, Dinesh Venkateswaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That stands for Yet Another Introduction Introduction, like YACC (for those who've studied compilers). I am a few messages old on the list as a reader (a cousin of mine had recommended it to me), and had conveniently forgotten to intro myself. So, here I am - grew up in Chennai, grew out of it, spent an eventful 10 years in IT as Technologist-Analyst-Manager-Consultant-etc and now contemplating doing something else. Like teaching. In London now. Could return to Adyar or Thiruvanmiyur. Welcome Dinesh! -- b PS: As a matter of mailing list courtesy, it's a good thing to trim off text from older mails that is not relevant to your post.
Re: [silk] FoU v3
Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: [ on 06:40 PM 8/22/2007 ] So whens the foUv3, going to be ? How about a meetup to figure it out? Charles has kindly offered his place, this Saturday evening. Who's up for an impromptu evening of food and drink and chatter? RSVP on the list, please. NOTE: Vegetarians may want to bring some food along - Charles is a great cook, but tends towards the carnivorous in his oeuvre. Also, if you have non-standard drink (or food) preferences, bring some along, for yourself and to share. Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] FoU v3
On 8/8/07, Ramakrishnan Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Udhay Shankar N said the following on 08/08/2007 14:53: So, what time suits everyone else? In the next few months? End of the year? January 2008? The earlier the better for me. How's September? When are all these international shindigs happening? So whens the foUv3, going to be ? foss.in is in early december ( 4 - 8 th dec). -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090
Re: [silk] YAII
On 8/22/07, Dinesh Venkateswaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That stands for Yet Another Introduction Introduction, like YACC (for those who've studied compilers). I am a few messages old on the list as a reader (a cousin of mine had recommended it to me), and had conveniently forgotten to intro myself. So, here I am - grew up in Chennai, grew out of it, spent an eventful 10 years in IT as Technologist-Analyst-Manager-Consultant-etc and now contemplating doing something else. Like teaching. In London now. Could return to Adyar or Thiruvanmiyur. Cheers Dinesh So..here's YAW (Yet Another Welcome). Why Dinesh underscore Madras and not the pc Dinesh underscore Chennai? Deepa. so i say... between one fishing hamlet and the other, just a few 10s of kms north or south - guess Chennai sounds more Tamil. dont know the answer to your qn Deepa. maybe I just like the word Madras and didnt approve of the for-no-sensible-reason name change, like Bangalore to Bengaluru
Re: [silk] YAII
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Biju Chacko wrote: PS: As a matter of mailing list courtesy, it's a good thing to trim off text from older mails that is not relevant to your post. there you go, done :) - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGzD6+XQZpNTcrCzMRAj7sAJ9/88IEXB5wIlS9/E2fiEIDvflxtQCcC7zz Kv/hDCYaHCICGyTnaMMLm0A= =NiXT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] FoU v3
Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: [ on 06:40 PM 8/22/2007 ] So whens the foUv3, going to be ? If you shoot for December, it would be nice if it was at least the second weekend. Dec 1-2 is a big conference that I can't miss since I'm going on the job market. Keep us all posted on foUv3 developments. Casey
Re: [silk] Introduction
Jim Grisanzio [22/08/07 17:13 +0900]: info at my bio: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/page/bio ^^ All right, how many people got reminded of Harry Harrison here?
Re: [silk] Introduction
Jim is one of my best pals from my Sun Days, and I'm really happy to see him here on Silk. He's expecting to attend FOSS.in, and I'm hoping by then he'll be a friend of Udhay's so he can come to FOU. He's one of the goodguys :-) Danese Sent from my iPhone :-)
Re: [silk] Re-architecting the music business
On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:49 PM, Gautam John wrote: On 8/16/07, Jeff Bone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then they'll use the lobby influence to try to get a tax on all such equipment, media, etc... at which point, if it flies, we'll probably have arrived at about the best practical outcome. If this blanket tax is an implied license to download music, videos et.al. then it might even be an interesting proposal. But of course, there'll never be a consensus on either the quantum of such tax, the point of impact of such tax etc. And what do you do with people who have no interest in 'pirating' (the word will be a moot point in such a system) content? How do they opt out and how would it be enforced? There's no opt-out, and I suspect that the consensus is less difficult than might be expected. There's an existence proof that this works: the tax on media / devices e.g. VHS... jb
Re: [silk] YAII
Dinesh Venkateswaran wrote: approve of the for-no-sensible-reason name change, like Bangalore to Bengaluru I feel your pain, Dinesh. :-) Welcome to Silk! V
Re: [silk] Another n00b
Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote: Hey man. Yup, remember you well. How're you? Welcome to Silk... We are fine here. Hope the same from you! ;) Oh, almost forgot. Srini mama sends his regards as well as Savithri mami. :)
Re: [silk] Introduction
Venky TV wrote: Hey Jim, Welcome to Silk! We've talked often on the OpenSolaris mailing lists. Looking forward to meeting you at FOSS.IN. I could certainly use some help getting some of the Linux zealots here to try out OpenSolaris! :) (Biju, you there?!) Is it really that good? I wouldn't mind trying it out. How does it compare to Ubuntu as a desktop OS? Jim, welcome to Silk.
Re: [silk] Introduction
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:39:17PM +0530, Venkat Mangudi wrote: Is it really that good? I wouldn't mind trying it out. How does it compare to Ubuntu as a desktop OS? Very, very badly. But Murdock is now at Sun, and tries to Debianize OpenSolaris (project Indiana). http://ianmurdock.com/ I'm reasonably kernel-agnostic (vserver, okay), and could switch to OpenSolaris, given that I like to use Sun hardware in production.
Re: [silk] Pakistan at 60 from Rafiq Dossani
Shiv, The Oflag only allows occasional access to Silk and others, so I read this a few minutes ago. Aren't you complicating things a bit? Wouldn't any Indian author asked to write on Pakistan at 60 tend to compare Pakistan with his own country? Why would Rafiq be an exception? shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 17 Aug 2007 10:09 am, Udhay Shankar N wrote: What I was hoping to see were your thoughts on this: This suggests that Pakistan is only a crucial freedom step away from success. The statement that immediately precedes this is Pakistan, meanwhile, has moved slowly on freedom. The state has withdrawn from the economy, but now grants favors selectively to the private sector, with the inevitable corollary of massive corruption and loss of freedom of action. It is not clear to me how this statement translates to one crucial freedom step, which if taken, would magically rip away Pakistan's problems. However he redeems himself only partially in the sentence following the freedom step sentence, but even here he makes a blunder. I will explain In reality, the immediate future does not look promising because the country's citizens do not have the political will to achieve real change. It is a sad commentary that Pakistan's choices for the next cycle of political rule look like bad ones: Saying that Pakistan's citizens do not have the political will to achieve real change is a massive sweeping under the carpet of Pakistan's problems created by the rule of an oligarchy that has consistently voted to keep itself in power rather than risk being booted out by an electorate. I find it strange that this scholar takes pains to make comparisons between India and Pakistan where they appear similar. He bypasses the comparisons that point towards the reasons for the different paths that India and Pakistan have taken. One big blow struck for change in India was land reforms in which non resident landowners could not own huge tracts of land and the feudal trappings that went with them. Another major difference in India was apolitical armed forces, that stayed away from grabbing and retaining power. Democratic institutions that ensure that politicians who are voted out get out of power such as the judiciary and election commission were allowed to survive and gain a degree of public respect and acceptance in India. A third process in India that never occurred in Pakistan is the active manner in which caste differences were legislated out of day to day life to tilt forces away from a ruling high-caste elite towards leaders elected by mass appeal. The elite never lost power in Pakistan. A fourth factor was geopolitical ambition of an Islamist military elite who convinced themselves that military supremacy over the (cowardly Hindu) India was a given. This was a fundamental error, because conventional military victories call for a 2 or 3:1 numerical superiority of aggressor over defender. Pakistan, with its smaller size and economy could never muster that superiority. India on the other hand found it relatively easy to remain defensive by easily maintaining a 1.5 : 1 numerical superiority. So for 60 years Pakistan has spent up to 40% of its budget on the military, with the military empire ruling over every aspect of Pakistan, yet not involving over 90% of its people. Of the 3 billion US dollars that Dubya gives to Pakistan officially every year - 1.5 billion is military aid. US aid after 9-11 has been 22 billion. How much of that has inflated Pakistan's growth rate after 9-11 With respect, Dossani is either innocent and ignorant, or he writes just like the others. shiv Indrajit Gupta 'Ramsharan', 396, TT Krishnamachari Road, Teynampet, Chennai 600 018. +914455511138 +919884375777 - Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.
Re: [silk] Another n00b
On Wednesday 22 Aug 2007 3:40 pm, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: Meditate upon the navel ? That's going to take some flexibility if not attain a permanent crick in the neck Also known as omphalocentrogenic cervical spondylosis. shiv
Re: [silk] Introduction
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:39:17PM +0530, Venkat Mangudi wrote: Venky TV wrote: Hey Jim, Welcome to Silk! We've talked often on the OpenSolaris mailing lists. Looking forward to meeting you at FOSS.IN. I could certainly use some help getting some of the Linux zealots here to try out OpenSolaris! :) (Biju, you there?!) Is it really that good? I wouldn't mind trying it out. How does it compare to Ubuntu as a desktop OS? Well, it'll take a little longer to get it as polished as Ubuntu on the desktop. You should check out the Belenix[1] LiveCD to see where it is heading. (The latest version comes bundled with Compiz, so it is not so far behind when it comes to eye-candy! You need an Nvidia display card to be able to use it though.) As Eugen mentioned, with Ian Murdoch on board, we should be fixing one of the main problems - package management - very soon. Venky. References: [1] http://www.genunix.org/distributions/belenix_site/
Re: [silk] Introduction
Eugen Leitl wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:39:17PM +0530, Venkat Mangudi wrote: Is it really that good? I wouldn't mind trying it out. How does it compare to Ubuntu as a desktop OS? Very, very badly. Hi ... Well, sure it's not as good as Ubuntu as a desktop OS. It's not a desktop OS yet. Remember, OpenSolaris is source code. There are a few distros, but there is no single OpenSolaris-branded reference binary based on 100% of the open code, and Indiana will not solve that problem initially. In the meantime, you can use Solaris Express, which is Sun's binary based on the OpenSolaris source /plus/ the closed bits we can't open or haven't opened yet. All the distros are linked here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ and BeleniX is the best. As far as comparing to Ubuntu as a desktop, I'd say make that evaluation in a year. Solaris was an enterprise OS for the super technical that we opened and are moving to the desktop for everyone. Even people like me! Indiana will help, but there have been engineering projects underway to address some of these issues (install, package management, etc) for a while now. In fact, the first iteration of Dave Miner's new install went in this week, and there will be many more updates as the installer is re-written: http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/try_out_the_dwarf_caiman. And if you want to see what we have planned for packaging, check out Stephen Hahn: http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/pkg_no_more_installer_magic http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/observations_on_packaging And by the way, I use Solaris, Windows, and Linux and I'm perfectly fine with all three. I run Ubuntu on one of my laptops at home, and it's quite lovely. We're getting there ... slowly but surely. And, yes, it's been slow ... :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris
Re: [silk] FoU v3
Charles has kindly offered his place, this Saturday evening. Who's up for an impromptu evening of food and drink and chatter? Cool! I'm in. Venky.
Re: [silk] FoU v3
...if we plan on Wednesday for Saturday, how is it impromptu? ...I am out of town... Deepa. On 8/23/07, Venky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles has kindly offered his place, this Saturday evening. Who's up for an impromptu evening of food and drink and chatter? Cool! I'm in. Venky.
Re: [silk] FoU v3
On 8/23/07, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...if we plan on Wednesday for Saturday, how is it impromptu? If you notice we're also planning something in December. Compared to *that*, this is impromptu. -- b
Re: [silk] I want the earth + 5%
On 8/8/07, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html Very nicely put together. Cheeni A very delayed response. Got around to reading this and recommend it to all non-finance/economic folks who want understand the monetary system. Wish there were many more such articles to demystify what seem to be very complex topics. Deepak
Re: [silk] FoU v3
On 8/23/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/23/07, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...if we plan on Wednesday for Saturday, how is it impromptu? If you notice we're also planning something in December. Compared to *that*, this is impromptu. Ah. Then I will try and make it for the promptu meet! Deepa. On 8/23/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/23/07, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...if we plan on Wednesday for Saturday, how is it impromptu? If you notice we're also planning something in December. Compared to *that*, this is impromptu. -- b
Re: [silk] Introduction
Venky TV wrote: Hey Jim, Welcome to Silk! We've talked often on the OpenSolaris mailing lists. Indeed. I'm on something like 200 lists now. That's why I figured I needed just /one/ more ... I'm just not busy enough, I guess. :) Looking forward to meeting you at FOSS.IN. Cool. My camera is ready. I take a lot of pics, so I'm looking forward to these events. If there is anything I can do to help in the meantime, let me know. When it comes to India, I know nothing so I'm all ears. I could certainly use some help getting some of the Linux zealots here to try out OpenSolaris! :) (Biju, you there?!) Oh, we have a few zealots of our own to deal with, my goodness. It's practically been my full time job on this project! But I /do/ have some very cool stories now, though ... :) But seriously, one of the key issues we have to learn on OpenSolaris is to grow the community internationally and work across cultural and language barriers. I don't think we do that particularly well at this point, and that's what I'm trying to focus on and learn as well. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris
