Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread va
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Tea BeeDi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 va,

  Not so much of a gender crisis I think. This id is shared by some friends.



...But your friend (Kavita Philip) wrote to me saying that she does
not remember the password and hence has not accessed tbd DOT lists AT
gmail DOT com for a long time. In such case, do throw some light on
who wrote that introduction mail on Jan10 to the Indichix list
claiming to be Kavita.

She also mentioned that members of this list had some issues with you
in the past, which does not bother me as much as this : Many people
(men and women, how many? - i dont know) share a single mail id and
are engaging Indichix members into conversations, in a space
specifically meant for women (and open to men), with full knowledge
that it could be either a man or woman writing the messages emanating
from tbd DOT lists AT gmail DOT com, but IndiChix members are kept in
the dark about the identity of the person writing them. I hope you
understand the privacy and trust issues involved here.

Since Kavita Philip claims that she does not use that account, it
seems that you (Dinesh, or your friends?) are currently subscribed to
IndiChix as Kavita since that is the impression the introduction mail
of Jan10 gives to the list. If that is not the case, it will be better
that you send a clarification mail to IndiChix explaining how things
stand, since you are still subscribed there.



Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:04 PM, va [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
  of Jan10 gives to the list. If that is not the case, it will be better
  that you send a clarification mail to IndiChix explaining how things
  stand, since you are still subscribed there.

Why isn't this thread occurring on IndiChix? I mean, I am all for
random conversation on Silk, and especially ones that are as curious
as this, but yeah, why not?



Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why isn't this thread occurring on IndiChix? I mean, I am all for
  random conversation on Silk, and especially ones that are as curious
  as this, but yeah, why not?

I am actually curious about this particular nym (Tee Beedi).

Playing games with the notion of identity online, *for its own sake*,
is kind of old hat by now, surely [1]? Therefore, there must be some
other explanation for this whole circus.

Udhay

[1] It was kind of old hat even at the time of the Joey Skaggs-WELL
brouhaha over a decade ago, but I digress.
-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



Re: [silk] Laptop recommendations

2008-04-16 Thread Valsa Williams
Most of these MNC OEMs, will not offer any Windows refunds and will not
extend their warranty etc , if Windows is removed, so one must be prepared
to take care of the machine . Fortunately,  laptops are very robust and you
may not face any problem.
HCL T5550 machines are Intel Core2 duo based and HCL offers Ubunutu Linux on
them and HCL is more  flexible than the MNCs.  In the last Freed.in
Community event in Delhi an HCl dealer sold 50 laptops during the event and
supports the same.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Sajith T S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think the new Lenovo made Thinkpad hardware is pretty much equal
  in quality to Apple hardware, if not worse.

 Hmm.  Is this true about R series too?  Just a couple of months back a
 Debian Developer I know chose Dell, after mightily disappointed by an
 R series Thinkpad.  This, despite a lot of the Debian crowd cheering
 for Thinkpads.  He said the new ones felt flimsy, as compared against
 the older IBM made versions.

 Oh, and Dell too had no Windows tax refund, not in India.

 --
 Don't you wish you had more energy... or less ambition?
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-- 
Valsa

Life is unsure ; Always eat your desert first :-)


Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda

On 16-Apr-08, at 1:49 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

I am actually curious about this particular nym (Tee Beedi).


Comes from the initials: T. B. Dinesh




Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am actually curious about this particular nym (Tee Beedi).
 

  Comes from the initials: T. B. Dinesh

I meant, the activities of this nym. Playing games with identity et al.

Udhay

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



Re: [silk] Mexican Food in India

2008-04-16 Thread Aditya Kapil
Was that Gerry Machado and band with the tongue-in-cheek name Gamgamma's
Pleasure? A good jazz band.
Adit.

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Alok G. Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 An old teacher of mine used to perform there with his band. I don't think
 that he ever wore a harmonica like that though.




Re: [silk] Mexican Food in India

2008-04-16 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 16 Apr 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Was that Gerry Machado and band with the tongue-in-cheek name Gamgamma's
 Pleasure?

I don't remember the name, but /Gangamma's Pleasure/ does ring a bell. 

 A good jazz band.

That it was (imho, at least).

-- 
Alok

Positive, adj.:
Mistaken at the top of one's voice.
-- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary



Re: [silk] Laptop recommendations

2008-04-16 Thread Aditya Chadha
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Sajith T S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think the new Lenovo made Thinkpad hardware is pretty much equal
  in quality to Apple hardware, if not worse.

 Hmm.  Is this true about R series too?  Just a couple of months back a
 Debian Developer I know chose Dell, after mightily disappointed by an
 R series Thinkpad.  This, despite a lot of the Debian crowd cheering
 for Thinkpads.  He said the new ones felt flimsy, as compared against
 the older IBM made versions.


I think Lenovo went on a huge and pretty bizarre cost-reduction across the
IBM laptop line, like the legendary IBM keyboard is definitely not what it
used to be. But this is piece of FUD is based only on my experience with one
T60p, and random murmurings on the interwebs. I'm pretty sure they're still
better than Dell which choses purely to optimize cost on most of their
machines.

Cheers,
Aditya

-- 
Aditya (http://aditya.sublucid.com/)


Re: [silk] Laptop recommendations

2008-04-16 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang

On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Aditya Chadha wrote:
[snip]
 I think Lenovo went on a huge and pretty bizarre cost-reduction across the
 IBM laptop line, like the legendary IBM keyboard is definitely not what it
 used to be. But this is piece of FUD is based only on my experience with
 one T60p, and random murmurings on the interwebs. I'm pretty sure they're
 still better than Dell which choses purely to optimize cost on most of
 their machines.

I concur. I have a broken T60p (fan is damaged, system shuts down all the
time), and a new Dell Latitude D630, and I can't bring myself to switch
to the Dell.  Despite the fact that this is possibly the worst Thinkpad
I've ever used (comparatively flimsy, the recurring fan problem), it is
still feels better than the Dell. The keyboard is better, the trackpoint
works, and the keyboard light is a necessity, not a luxury.

-Taj.




Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:
 Tea BeeDi wrote, [on 4/16/2008 9:12 AM]:
  va,
 
  Not so much of a gender crisis I think. This id is shared by some friends.
 
  Why?
  Udhay

let me explain, because I completely understand... its like three
friends sharing a
toothbrush, a pillow, an ice-cream, a pillow etcjust as long as
there hygienic
precautions it should cause no permanent damage.



Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:06 PM, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  let me explain, because I completely understand... its like three
  friends sharing a
  toothbrush, a pillow, an ice-cream, a pillow etc

I  just cannot resist asking, why does the  use of the pillow
intersperse the use of each item? And how is one hygenic about sharing
a toothbrush? Autoclave it? Cackle, cackle.

and I am probably rushing in where angels fear to tread , but I
will play my older person card here, and observe that (in my
opinion)  VA sounds upset, so Tea BeeDi should write (whether on-list
or off-list) and clarify the situation.

Deepa.




just as long as
  there hygienic
  precautions it should cause no permanent damage.





Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Deepa Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  and I am probably rushing in where angels fear to tread , but I
  will play my older person card here, and observe that (in my
  opinion)  VA sounds upset, so Tea BeeDi should write (whether on-list
  or off-list) and clarify the situation.

Barring evidence to the contrary, my reading of the situation is that
Tea Beedi is trolling and basking in the attention and is busy making
profound academic social observations.

Nothing to see under this bridge, folks. Just your garden variety troll.

Thaths (whose very name conjures images of older person)
-- 
Bart: We were just planning the father-son river rafting trip.
Homer: Hehe. You don't have a son.
Sudhakar Chandra Slacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Thaths wrote:

  Nothing to see under this bridge, folks. Just your garden variety troll.


A garden-variety troll with a pony tail mind you...! they don't always come with
that (at least the ones i dig up in my garden)



Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 08:53 +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote:
 I do like to see the Indian-integration surnames on this
 list...Aiyer-GhoshMenon-Sen :))

southie-bong-delhi-ites unite!!! we will defeat the tam-brams yet. are
there more than us two?





[silk] Sharing

2008-04-16 Thread Udhay Shankar N

Deepa Mohan wrote:


I  just cannot resist asking, why does the  use of the pillow
intersperse the use of each item? And how is one hygenic about sharing
a toothbrush? Autoclave it? Cackle, cackle.


This reminds me of a conversation I had several years ago with one of 
the members of this list. He told me that a relative of his once said, 
in all seriousness, that the secret of a long and happy marriage 
was...to share a toothbrush with your wife!


On spending some thought I found that it wasn't as laughable as it first 
appeared, but I'm still not sure it's as facile as all that.


Thoughts?

Udhay
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
well, actually i legally changed my name when i was 15 to add my
mother's maiden surname (albeit with typographically more attractive
spelling) as my _middle_ name. so, spanish style, no hyphenation!

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 09:14 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just use the Spanish system. It scales...





Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 16:23 +0530, va wrote:
 Kavita (another woman, who was also at the LCIN BoF and is presently
 in USA according to her mail to the LCIN mailing-list) meanwhile used
 a different mail id when she sent a mail to Runa (Sankarsan's wife)
 and me. So could the real Kavita or is it Dinesh/Prashant(?) please
 come forward.

so why don't they all just call themselves luther blissett and be done
with it? on facebook i note there is a swarm of monty cantsins, luther
blissetts and karen elliots who are all friends of each other since most
other people don't seem to want to befriend them.

i'm not explaining this. the journey is the destination.




Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Abhishek Hazra
were you already reading A.J Ayer then?
please elaborate on typographic attraction

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well, actually i legally changed my name when i was 15 to add my
 mother's maiden surname (albeit with typographically more attractive
 spelling) as my _middle_ name. so, spanish style, no hyphenation!

 On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 09:14 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just use the Spanish system. It scales...






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Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 08:53 +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote:
   I do like to see the Indian-integration surnames on this
   list...Aiyer-GhoshMenon-Sen :))

  southie-bong-delhi-ites unite!!! we will defeat the tam-brams yet. are
  there more than us two?

Sort of, Tam-bram married to a Bong with tenuous connections to Delhi.



Re: [silk] Fwd: [schooltool] Janastu and SchoolTool

2008-04-16 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh

On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 08:59 -0700, Thaths wrote:
 Barring evidence to the contrary, my reading of the situation is that
 Tea Beedi is trolling and basking in the attention and is busy making
 profound academic social observations.

tea beedi sounds like an attempt to make a cool indian neoist name [1].
a neoist may be quite alright on silk, actually. but perhaps not on
indichix.

in the picture, dinesh / prashant with scruffy beard and
perhaps-ponytail certainly looks like a candidate for performance art;
perhaps the ponytail and beard are shared too, so that we will never
know. we will remain greatly confused and perhaps questioning of notions
of identity. then again, perhaps not.

anyhow, Q [2] was a great book. and only mediaevalist, though the
authors were neoists.

-rishab

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoism
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_%28novel%29




Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Rishab Ghosh
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:02:08AM +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
   southie-bong-delhi-ites unite!!! we will defeat the tam-brams yet. are
   there more than us two?
 
 Sort of, Tam-bram married to a Bong with tenuous connections to Delhi.

too bad, doesn't count, we're an exclusive club. but we'll let your kid(s) join 
if you give them both names and a few years in delhi...




Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Rishab Ghosh
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 09:51:21AM +0530, Abhishek Hazra wrote:
 were you already reading A.J Ayer then?
 please elaborate on typographic attraction

yes, but that's not the name i picked! Aiyer looks much nicer than Iyer, i 
think (i don't think Ayer is popular among tambrams). the upward slope of the A 
is parallel to the downward slope of the y in many typefaces, especially when 
nicely kerned. in Iyer the I stands upright at an awkward angle to the y. don't 
you think?




Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Rishab Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:02:08AM +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
 southie-bong-delhi-ites unite!!! we will defeat the tam-brams yet. are
 there more than us two?
  
   Sort of, Tam-bram married to a Bong with tenuous connections to Delhi.

  too bad, doesn't count, we're an exclusive club. but we'll let your kid(s) 
 join if you give them both names and a few years in delhi...

That'll be the day... I really like Delhi, but as the popular opinion
on this list goes, I can't stand Delhiites or hyphenated names.



Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Rishab Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 09:51:21AM +0530, Abhishek Hazra wrote:
   were you already reading A.J Ayer then?
   please elaborate on typographic attraction

  yes, but that's not the name i picked! Aiyer looks much nicer than Iyer, i 
 think (i don't think Ayer is popular among tambrams). the upward slope of the 
 A is parallel to the downward slope of the y in many typefaces, especially 
 when nicely kerned. in Iyer the I stands upright at an awkward angle to the 
 y. don't you think?

Funny you should say that from mutt which doesn't include the Aiyer in
your name. Part of the reason I am against hyphenation or placing any
great emphasis on last names is because it draws attention to my roots
rather than me. I am not as much a product of my genepool and Iyer
upbringing as my parents generation was, and I expect my kids to be
far less like me.



Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-16 Thread Abhishek Hazra
and just to have a small quirky element in this ex-libris stamp, one could
flip the upper case E so that the vertical becomes parallel with the
vertical of the R. this will then echo the counterform between A and Y.
anyway...just some trivial formal riffs

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Abhishek Hazra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 oh lovely.
 very happy to see you reveling in typographic details.
 yes the counterform space created between upper case A and lower case is
 indeed nice.
 and this counterform space looks more pleasing when set with a good
 humanist serif face like Bembo or even Baskerville.
 also A, Y, E and R are good forms to design an ex-libris stamp.
 will look good if you make a composition with A and Y on top and E and R
 below.


 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Rishab Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 09:51:21AM +0530, Abhishek Hazra wrote:
   were you already reading A.J Ayer then?
   please elaborate on typographic attraction
 
  yes, but that's not the name i picked! Aiyer looks much nicer than Iyer,
  i think (i don't think Ayer is popular among tambrams). the upward slope of
  the A is parallel to the downward slope of the y in many typefaces,
  especially when nicely kerned. in Iyer the I stands upright at an awkward
  angle to the y. don't you think?
 
 
 


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