Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
Ah, but you're not born Catholic. You have to consciously choose it and be confirmed before you can celebrate sacrament. Hinduism has a lower bar to entry. My understanding is that pretty much everybody (even a future Catholic) is born Hindu. I'm sure you'll all let me know if I've been misinformed ;-). Danese On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently the catholic church has a form that you fill out, at least in Switzerland. Seeing how Hinduism has all the bases covered - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism how does one get rid of it? Cheeni
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, but you're not born Catholic. You have to consciously choose it and be confirmed before you can celebrate sacrament. Hinduism has a lower bar to entry. My understanding is that pretty much everybody (even a future Catholic) is born Hindu. I'm sure you'll all let me know if I've been misinformed ;-). It's true that Hinduism lays claim who all who breathe this air, walk on this earth and live under the sky. Does this mean one is a Catholic and a Hindu at the same time? Or how about a Muslim and a Hindu? If not, then does that mean signing up to another religion unregisters one from Hinduism? If so, how does atheism fare? Besides there is no formal process (legally speaking) to be admitted as an atheist, and even then atheism is a valid form of Hinduism. I read this comic book once (many years ago) that portrayed Buddha and Jesus Christ as avatars of Vishnu. Cheeni
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently the catholic church has a form that you fill out, at least in Switzerland. Seeing how Hinduism has all the bases covered - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism how does one get rid of it? You can, apparently, go to a court and get an affidavit stating that you have no religion. The same or, a variant of it was once narrated to me by Ramakrishna. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Besides there is no formal process (legally speaking) to be admitted as an atheist I'm glad he hasn't found out about the SECRET HANDSHAKE. -T
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM, sankarshan sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: You can, apparently, go to a court and get an affidavit stating that you have no religion. The same or, a variant of it was once narrated to me by Ramakrishna. Mahesh Shantaram did that many years ago. Here it is: http://bbs.seacrow.com/cix/106/829 http://bbs.seacrow.com/cix/106/881 (Login/password: archives/archives)
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
Tim Bray wrote, [on 4/9/2010 12:49 PM]: Besides there is no formal process (legally speaking) to be admitted as an atheist I'm glad he hasn't found out about the SECRET HANDSHAKE. Tim, you realise you're going to have to explain this breach of confidentiality at the next monthly cabal meeting, yes? Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: Mahesh Shantaram did that many years ago. Here it is: http://bbs.seacrow.com/cix/106/829 http://bbs.seacrow.com/cix/106/881 Thanks, I am sure that this is the most practical solution, even if I have to repeat some variant of it in every country I reside in. OTOH, the larger philosophical question still remains - how does one relinquish Hinduism when by its definition it is impossible :-)
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Friday 09 April 2010 01:14 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: I'm glad he hasn't found out about the SECRET HANDSHAKE. Tim, you realise you're going to have to explain this breach of confidentiality at the next monthly cabal meeting, yes? Tsk.. Tsk... Rule 1: Breach confidentiality at the risk of the left pinkie. Rule 2: Reveal your / others' membership status at the risk of your right pinkie. Forgot so soon? Oops, think I lost my right one too. :-)
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: Mahesh Shantaram did that many years ago. Here it is: http://bbs.seacrow.com/cix/106/829 http://bbs.seacrow.com/cix/106/881 Thanks, I am sure that this is the most practical solution, even if I have to repeat some variant of it in every country I reside in. Yes, Mahesh Shantaram did that many years ago, it costed him Rs 25/- . But it also got me curious, If one does not have a religion, does it automatically qualify him for a religious minority or any minority status in India. regards -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the larger philosophical question still remains - how does one relinquish Hinduism when by its definition it is impossible :-) Constitutionally speaking, shouldn't you NOT have to relinquish anything you didn't accept of your own free will? Except citizenship by birth, of course. I could always make up my own religion that is defined as consisting of anyone born in the geography of India. Why would you be obliged to release yourself from that?
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy ramkr...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, Mahesh Shantaram did that many years ago, it costed him Rs 25/- . But it also got me curious, If one does not have a religion, does it automatically qualify him for a religious minority or any minority status in India. Ironically, Mahesh and Vidya had a Hindu wedding. IANAL, but I suppose minorities have to be specifically identified in law or you'd have a number of smaller castes trying to exit the Hindu umbrella. If the Gujjars can agitate to be recognised as a backward caste for the benefits, so can anyone else. Kiran
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
I could always make up my own religion that is defined as consisting of anyone born in the geography of India. Why would you be obliged to release yourself from that? Precisely the question that's been bothering me as well. Why do you feel obliged to release yourself from it? And what would you get by releasing yourself from it? To live in society, you would still need to carry the baggage that comes with that identity regardless of what the government considers you as. No? Kiran
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: It's true that Hinduism lays claim who all who breathe this air, walk on this earth and live under the sky. Apparently some Hindus are more equal than others. Balinese Hindus, for example, don't find it easy to visit Puri's Juggenaught temple. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071108/asp/nation/story_8524891.asp http://news.iskcon.org/node/692 Thaths -- Marge, you being a cop makes you the man! Which makes me the woman... and I have no interest in that, besides wearing the occasional underwear, which as we discussed is strictly a comfort thing. -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: It's true that Hinduism lays claim who all who breathe this air, walk on this earth and live under the sky. Apparently some Hindus are more equal than others. Balinese Hindus, for example, don't find it easy to visit Puri's Juggenaught temple. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071108/asp/nation/story_8524891.asp http://news.iskcon.org/node/692 Haven't read the story yet, but if anyone is calling the deity the Juggenaught instead of the spelling that's been accepted for 60 years now ...Jagannath (Lord of the World), their efforts also will come to naught :) OK, OK...I agree that's spelling Nazism, but I still bristle when I hear...and then read the British mauling of Indian place names like Mejura (Madurai) Seringapetam (Srirangapatna) and Serampore (Srirampur). Oh wellI've drifted the thread nicely, though, let it float upon the etymological waters. Deepa.
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: It's true that Hinduism lays claim who all who breathe this air, walk on this earth and live under the sky. The first time my son-in-law visited India (er, as someone said at the engagement, he's an American American!) , at certain south Indian temples he was told that if he wore a sindoor tilak he would be allowed inside, and he had no problem with this. At others, he was told would be allowed in if he paid Rs. 350 or so..there, he chose to sit outside and wait for us. Rs.350 seems to be very cheap to embrace Hinduism, he remarked later.
Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?
OK, OK...I agree that's spelling Nazism, but I still bristle when I hear...and then read the British mauling of Indian place names like Mejura (Madurai) Seringapetam (Srirangapatna) and Serampore (Srirampur). Oh well Come, come. Even the construct Deepa Mohan as a name is about as Western as they come. Hard to draw the line at what degree of occidentification is ok and what's not :-) Mahesh